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Fred McCormick 30 Jul 09 - 05:37 AM
Tug the Cox 30 Jul 09 - 05:45 AM
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Monique 30 Jul 09 - 05:58 AM
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Nigel Parsons 21 Aug 14 - 04:49 AM
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Subject: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:37 AM

I'm currently cataloguing my entire record collection, and I've come to a number of LPs, the titles, artistes, record labels etc are identified only in Greek script. I've no way of listing these unless I can find an easy way of transliterating the relevant details. Can anybody help?


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:45 AM

Sens 'em to George.


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Folknacious
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:45 AM

One of the most useful little books I ever bought was Collins Pocket Ready Reference. Not only does it have conversion tables from practically everything to everything, it has the Greek, Hebrew and Russian alphabets, braille, morse code, semaphore - I've used it many, many times for translating Greek album titles and artist names into Roman alphabet. Invaluable.! I think it' may be out of print but I just checked Amazon and they have copies from £0.01!


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Folknacious
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:48 AM

Even easier, see here. That book's still worth having though!


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Monique
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:58 AM

And don't forget consonants combinations


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Monique
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 06:04 AM

... and that


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: fretless
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 09:23 AM

If the above references don't help, scan it, send me a PM with the scan attached and I'll give it a read.


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: bubblyrat
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:56 PM

Graecum est,non potest legi ......


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Paul Burke
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 06:15 PM

Alpha me grog...


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 12:06 PM

Many thanks to Folknacious and Monique, and especially to fretless for the kind offer to transliterate some of them for me. I think I've got enough links now for me to be able to do the job. However, if I get any real stinkers, I'll gladly PM scans of them to you.


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 04:49 AM

From: Folknacious - PM
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:45 AM

One of the most useful little books I ever bought was Collins Pocket Ready Reference. Not only does it have conversion tables from practically everything to everything, it has the Greek, Hebrew and Russian alphabets, braille, morse code, semaphore - I've used it many, many times for translating Greek album titles and artist names into Roman alphabet. Invaluable.! I think it' may be out of print but I just checked Amazon and they have copies from £0.01!

I remember buying this when it came out.
I wrote to them with a list of corrections, but got no response. Possibly it was issued as a one-off, and not intended for re-publication


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Subject: RE: Greek Alphabet. Help Needed
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 10:30 PM

Transliterating Greek always turns out badly, because so many Greek words are spelled almost the same as English words that mean the same thing but they're usually pronounced completely differently. So you have to choose between the spelling and the pronunciation, and whichever choice you make you're depriving yourself of a lot of valuable information.

So, for example, the Greek word for biology could be translated as biologia, since beta looks like B and classical scholars pronounce it that way, and they also pronounce gamma like G even though the capital gamma looks more like an F and the lower case looks more like a Y. But if you try to replicate the pronunciation the closest thing would be violoyia, which might make you think it has something to do with bowed instruments. You could try for both with bhiologhia, following the pattern of what happens to a T when you add an H to it, but bhiologhia looks very strange and has too many letters.

The best thing would be to catalog them using the Greek letters. Are you doing it on the computer? The Unicode fonts (a couple of which come with Windows) have all the Greek letters, and in Windows you can put a language bar on your task bar, which allows you to change over to typing Greek letters in a Unicode font by just a single mouse click, and then back to English by another mouse click.

By the way, one of those references, the ibiblio.org site, has a lot of incorrect information. I didn't look at the others.


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