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BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle

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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 04:15 PM

I'd rather she did me in the years ahead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 10:31 PM

Winona has an amazing smile, amazing eyes, great cheekbones. And she's a very good actress. I hope she does well in the years ahead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 08:50 PM

THAT woman is HIGHLY capable, JtS. What a wonederful smile! That's what always attracted me physically... the smile. I am a sucker for a nice smile. My downfall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 06:10 PM

Fer Chrissake, gnu, I wasn't envisioning her "on the pitch"!

If she can throw a tighter spiral than me...well...that's fine. ;-D I don't mind. I like being around highly capable women.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 05:47 PM

speaking of tight spirals


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 05:36 PM

I'll bet that she can throw a tighter spiral than Little Hawk. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 04:29 PM

Winnie wouldn't last two seconds on any pitch. I wouldn't play her. Cheerleader maybe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 03:39 PM

"Holding a grudge is like allowing him to live in your head rent free."

Exactly, Kendall! That's one of the best reasons for forgiving...or at least letting go of something that happened in the past and moving on.

I only recently found out about Michale Vick's personal history. I'm certainly not going to stress out my mind over it long after the fact. As for Michael Vick, since he happens to be quite good at playing football, I think it's probably best for all concerned that he continue doing so in spite of the fact that he once did a bad thing. It makes more sense to let him resume playing football than forcing him to do something else instead...something that he's probably not particularly good at. Might as well let him do what he has the best ability to do.

Somebody mentioned rugby...it seems almost like a giant brawl on a playing field to me. I think a person would have to be a bit crazy (or hypnotized by cultural programming) to play that game. If I had to choose between them, I'd opt for American football. If I were offered an additional choice, however, I'd opt for Winona Ryder. ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: kendall
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 08:54 AM

Sigh


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 10:56 PM

Brady and the Pats are on Tebow and Denver like a pit bull on a wiener dog.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 05:52 PM

How bout them Saints!


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: kendall
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 05:14 PM

Holding a grudge is like allowing him to live in your head rent free.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 01:56 PM

I had never heard about the torture part. Only about the fighting. Neither can be condoned. And, I really just can't think about it any more. It's too disturbing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: kendall
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 09:45 AM

That word, Forgiveness; Let's examine its true meaning. It does not mean that we condone what he did. It means that we are no longer willing to let that act simmer in the back of our minds and go on and on about it ad nauseum.(I know that's not a real word, but it should be)
As Omar Khayyam said to the king of Persia, "This too shall pass."
I will never condone what he did and I will never forget it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 05:48 AM

Sorry, just a joke.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 06:59 PM

Did you see the picture? Mike Vick's face on a punching bag?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 06:47 PM

Nope. I'd relly like to smack the real deal, even tho it's wrong. Like and actually strike are very different. Not my call, I suppose. Just the way I feel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 06:26 PM

GNu does this work for you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 05:29 PM

What, gn-ze??? You don't have a dog to kick??? (Sick joke, but, WTH...)...

Maybe you need a punching bag???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 05:18 PM

Well said, Bobert. And, as much as dislike saying it, he deserves to be believed. "Every dog is entitled to his first bite." That is the law in these here parts.

Even tho I would like to smack him, on accounta he ain't a dog and, as a grown man, he has responsibilities to know right from wrong and not blame his actions on his earlier downtrodden life, somethin just tells me in me heart he deserves a second chance. EVEN THO I wanna smack him REAL bad. If he can help stem this unreal crap that he was part of, at least that is a good reason to let him off, no matter if he doesn't mean what he says.

Make any sense? I mean, besides the fact that I would seriously like to smack him. Maybe more than once. I suppose that is barabaric as well, but that's the way I feel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 05:07 PM

Rugby is worse than organized football... It is an somewhat organized rumble, at best...

As for Vick??? Who the heck knows... People can change... Not many do, however, and most folks just get "more so"... I'd like to think that Michael Vick has changed but there's only one person in the world who really knows...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 04:54 PM

Yes, he did. All the more reason why Yankee football is superior to football. No mention was made of a rugby ball but perhaps LH doesn't know of rugby. If so, LH, stay away from it. It's played in much the same manner as you have described except it's an extremely boring game when compared to Yankee football.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching rugby and I do so regularly... but it pales in comparison to Yankee football.

Notice no emoticon. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Raptor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:46 PM

I'll laugh out loud, it was pretty funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:26 PM

I thought that Richard, being British would think it boorish of me to laugh at my own joke. Alas and alack! If there were only a"dry humour" "smilie?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:23 PM

Thanks. I think. But didn't you say that the ball can't roll properly?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:18 PM

I thought it was funny, too, but also that it would be impolite to laugh out loud. >;-)

An emoticon always makes whatever you post (more) acceptable. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:12 PM

But, Jack...I am just trying to keep the ball rolling, don't you see?

"Follow the bouncing ball..."

(I did think your reply to Richard Bridge was clever, apt, hilarious in fact, one of the best posts I've read on this entire thread.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 01:59 PM

Hawk, You simply rephrased what Richard said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 01:38 PM

Me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 11:04 AM

OH!!! That was provocative, Jack. I bet that made Richard grit his teeth and drop his capo on the floor. :-D I hope we can now look forward to at least 50 or more intemperate tit-for-tat posts on this thread to get it sorted out to everyone's (cough! cough!) satisfaction.

I will add to the fire by saying that only a drooling halfwit would bother spending his time staring at a bunch of steroid-pumped, over-muscled gladiators in shoulder pads and helmets beating the hell out of each other over a stupid-looking pointy-ended ball that won't even roll in a straight line.

You're "it".


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 09:16 AM

Yes. You are correct. The only true entertainment is archaic dusty irrelevant songs croaked by middle aged part timers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 09:04 AM

I don't understand the idolatry afforded to sub-humans who can kick balls anyway. That's inflated bladders of wind, not testicles. Come to that there are apparently morons who admire boxers, wrestlers, and cage fighters. Last days of Rome come to mind?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Raptor
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 08:58 AM

Can we go back to our regulairly schedualed disagreement without mentioning my balls and what sould be done with them now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 09:13 PM

A 3-year-old boy examined his testicles while taking a bath. 'Mom', he asked, 'Are these my brains?'
'Not yet,' she replied.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 03:52 PM

I knew one higher order mammal once. Man, she could... ahhh, nevermind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 03:38 PM

Gnu the statement can bite away. Its the higher order mammals that worry me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 03:16 PM

Well, it was gettin' a bit teste in here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:59 PM

That kinda statement could back ta bite ya in the balls, JtS. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:59 PM

No doubt about that! Ook! Ook!

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:51 PM

A man is a better man with relaxed balls.... is all I am saying!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:48 PM

Don't go volunteerin' me for nothin', Jack. I got enough on my plate as it is. Bein' "available" ain't the same thing as bein' "willing".

Just think, though...if Michael Vick had had a service like that available to him way back when, he might not of got so tense. And then he might not've tortured that poor dog in the first place. Why, he mighta become a real nice guy instead and gone around doin' good deeds and helpin' little old ladies cross the street and stuff. Makes ya think, don't it?

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Raptor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:38 PM

Not that there is anything wrong with that but I don't go that way. All the power to ya though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Raptor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:34 PM

Hey sailor what is your fasination with licking my balls?

You know what, don't answer that, I'm creeped out enough already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:16 PM

>>>You don't seem to get it. He is making millions of dollars because some people believe his shit. He is only doing what any smart agent would tell him to do.<<<

He is making millions because he is skilled at Football. He'd be playing, if he did just one of the three things he is doing for the HSUS. He certainly could have kept his million dollars.

>>>Why do you feel he is entitled to forgiveness?<<<

Everyone is entitled to forgiveness. As Jeri said, I can't see his soul. He is outwardly doing quite a bit. What is more he is putting himself in contact with dog lovers and kids who may become dog fighters in the work he is doing for the HSUS.

>>>Do you realy believe that 18 months in a high class prison with catered food and gym facilities is suficient punishment for such an evil act?<<<

It was a stiff sentence for the time. Should Congress have passed a special law just to punish Michael Vick? Read the HSUS FAQ. They hardly get to prosecute anyone, much less a famous rich person.   Have a guess who is NOW lobbying to make the sentences stiffer?

>>>Do you think its OK to turture a dog to death?<<<

No I do not.

>>>Are you into dogfighting?<<<

No I am not. Are you into having your balls licked?

>>And I'll thank you to leave my balls out of it, Mater of fact it troubles me that you feel the need to mention my balls at all.<<

You seem very tense. Perhaps you would feel better after having your balls licked? I hear that all that you need is some peanut butter and a willing higher order mammal. Perhaps Chongo is available?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 01:42 PM

Don't blame me, Raptor. I didn't start it. In fact, I am most eager to stop thinkin' about yer balls ASAP, so I wish you would just drop the subject.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Raptor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 01:37 PM

LEAVE MY BALLS OUT OF THIS YOU SICKOS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 01:31 PM

I am conflicted on this. On the one hand, I can't stand Michael Vick and I don't like his damn team either. On the other hand, I can't stand dogs. They got a real bad attitude toward chimps. I been assaulted by various stupid dogs in my time...and I had to kill a few of 'em too, cos they wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

Still, it sounds to me like this dog that Michael Vick tortured to death was just a poor victim of a sick human being who oughta be hung out to dry. Dogs got rights too, uh?

Then there is the question of forgiveness. Jesus said to forgive everyone. There might be somethin' to that. I would be willin' to give it consideration. But did King Kong forgive the corrupt bozos who kidnapped him and shot him off the Empire State Building? I don't think so! My guess is he would've been happy to stomp 'em all into the pavement if he got the chance.

So do we forgive Michael Vick after he has "paid his dues"? Hmmmm. What would be better? To go on punishin' the man forever or to let the matter pass and let him get on with playin' football? Hmmmmm.

It's a tough one. I gotta have another drink and think about it some.

And then there's the matter of Raptor's balls...sheesh! Gimme a break. You ever notice how hard it is to not think about somethin' when somebody else mentions it?

Like try this: Don't think about an elephant right now! Don't do it. Not on any condition. You will be sorry if you think about an elephant.

See? Enough to drive ya crazy, ain't it?

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: kendall
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 01:25 PM

He can fake sorrow all he wants, is is still one sick son of a bitch and he will never change.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Raptor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 01:08 PM

You don't seem to get it. He is making millions of dollars because some people believe his shit. He is only doing what any smart agent would tell him to do.

Why do you feel he is entitled to forgiveness?

Do you realy believe that 18 months in a high class prison with catered food and gym facilities is suficient punishment for such an evil act?

Do you think its OK to turture a dog to death?

Are you into dogfighting?

And I'll thank you to leave my balls out of it, Mater of fact it troubles me that you feel the need to mention my balls at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Vick, dog-fighter, is an Eagle
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 12:14 PM

According to the HSUS.

Vick, received a very harsh sentence given the law at the time. He served it and earned his parole.
Vick lobbied Congress for tougher penalties for Dog fighting crimes
Vick donated one million dollars to an organization that rehabilitates fighting dogs.
Vick speaks regularly to youth to discourage "Dog fighting culture."

Name another person on earth who has done as much to combat dog fighting in the past three years.

What do you want him to do? Lick your balls?


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