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Clay633449 18 Jul 99 - 04:48 AM
Margo 18 Jul 99 - 02:04 PM
rich r 18 Jul 99 - 02:32 PM
WyoWoman 18 Jul 99 - 03:07 PM
campfire 18 Jul 99 - 06:35 PM
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Llanfair 18 Jul 99 - 06:52 PM
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Terry 18 Jul 99 - 08:31 PM
Margo 18 Jul 99 - 08:32 PM
WyoWoman 18 Jul 99 - 09:07 PM
Bill D 18 Jul 99 - 09:20 PM
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WyoWoman 18 Jul 99 - 09:43 PM
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Barbara 18 Jul 99 - 09:50 PM
catspaw49 18 Jul 99 - 09:59 PM
Llanfair 19 Jul 99 - 03:37 AM
Joe Offer 19 Jul 99 - 03:54 AM
Barbara 19 Jul 99 - 10:10 AM
catspaw49 19 Jul 99 - 10:36 AM
Dave Swan 19 Jul 99 - 10:54 AM
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Roger the zimmer 19 Jul 99 - 11:08 AM
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Subject: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Clay633449
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 04:48 AM

My fie heard a song that was sung by a classical saprano, but the words were the names and ingredients of food items at church suppers. Does anyone know anything about such a song.

Thanks Clay


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Margo
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 02:04 PM

Usually, if you don't have a title, any remembered lyrics might help. I don't know this one, but if you type @food in the box in the upper right corner of the page, you will find over 100 food songs in the database.

Margarita


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Subject: Lyr Add: LIME JELL-O MARSHMALLOW COTTAGE...^^
From: rich r
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 02:32 PM

LIME JELL-O MARSHMALLOW COTTAGE CHEESE SURPRISE
by Joan Morris and William Bolcom

The song exists on a CD called "Keepers" that is available only as a premium for membership at Minnesota Public Radio. Sorry about the all upper case. I transcribed this several years ago and I often use all caps in my personal lyric sheets because it is easier for my bad eyes to see if I am trying to learn it with guitar in hand and the sheet on a music stand or the floor. This number is more a rhythmic recitation with piano (kinda like a talking blues, but different)

Ladies, the minutes will soon be read today.
The garden club and weaving class I'm sure have much to say,
But next week is our culture night, our biggest best event,
And I've just made a dish for it you'll all find heaven sent.
It's my lime Jell-O marshmallow cottage cheese surprise
With slices of pimento; you won't believe your eyes!
All topped with a pineapple ring and a dash of mayonnaise,
My vanilla wafers round the edge will win your highest praise.

And Mrs. Jones is making scones that are filled with peanut mousse
To be followed by a chicken mold that's made in the shape of a goose.
For ladies who must watch those pounds we've found a special dish:
Strawberry ice enshrined in rice, with bits of tuna fish.
And my lime Jell-O marshmallow cottage cheese surprise,
Truly a creation that description defies.
It will go so well with Mrs. Bell's creation of the week,
Shrimp salad topped with chocolate sauce and garnished with a leek.

And Mrs. Perkins' walnut loaf that's crowned with melted cheese
Was such a hit last culture night, we asked no seconds please.
Now you must try her hot-dog pie with candied mushroom slices.
Those ladies who resigned last year, they just don't know what nice is.
And my lime Jell-O marshmallow cottage cheese surprise
I did not steal that recipe; it's lies, I tell you, lies!
A grand surprise, a picture hat (?) and a seven-sequin gown
For any girl who tries each dish and keeps her whole lunch down.

I'm sure you all are waiting for the biggest news, dessert.
We've thought of things in molds and rings your diet to subvert.
You must try our chocolate layer-cake on a peanut-brittle base
With slices of bananas that make a funny face;
Around the edgesl peppermints just swimming in peach custard,
With lovely little curlicues of lovely yellow mustard.
If all this is too much for you, permit me to advise
More lime Jell-O marshmallow cottage cheese surprise.
I made heaps.


Bon appetite,
rich r


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: WyoWoman
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 03:07 PM

I blush to admit: This is one of the comfort foods from my childhood. My mother made Lime Jello Salad, with shredded carrots in it and a dollop of Miracle Whip on top.

This was alternated with the ORANGE jello salad with pineapple and walnuts. Even though I have reviewed restaurants and shared my life for several years with an honest-to-goodness chef, I still really, really like Jello salad.

You can take the girl out of the country ....

WW


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: campfire
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 06:35 PM

So who DOESN'T have a favorite Jello dish? My mother makes a lime jello, cream cheese, and walnut (or maybe its pecans) creation. I can't rememer a childhood holiday without it. Then one year, when we were all grown, it WASN'T there....You'd have thought she left the turkey off the Thanksgiving table! She hasn't "forgotten" it since.

campfire


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: WyoWoman
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 06:38 PM

I have the same story, but with a cranberry/walnut/cherry Jello salad I made one time for Thanksgiving. I did it one year and my kids were completely undone the next year when it didn't appear on the table. Now it's one of our "traditional" dishes -- although when I live in Santa Fe, I called it "Aspic..." ;-}

ww


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Llanfair
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 06:52 PM

So you get jelly,right? and you put stuff in it before it sets, right? and you don,t call it fruit jelly, you call it a jello/y salad. have I got this right? and you put nuts in it as well? and cream on top? OK, ....... and then you eat it, right?...................Which course? Hwyl, Bron. (who really likes summer pudding)


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 07:14 PM

The ways mothers and grandmothers continue to ruin Jello with VEGETABLES amazes me to this day. Every holiday meal, there it was, staring at me like a bowl of Quaker Puffed Oats, daring me to actually eat such a thing. And that disgusting blob of Miracle Whip..........oh gawd... Just how is that carrot supposed to be complimentary to lime? Or how 'bout that carrot substitute, celery? I don't want CRUNCHY JELLO!!! YEAH, I know a lot of you love it......and your kids love it.....and hobos come to your door every Sunday night to see if you have any of this delectable treat left.....yeah,yeah,yeah,yeah.......I know, it's just great. I can't think about it anymore.......I'm about to hurl chunks. Let's say I'd just as soon eat a bowl of rhinoceros phlegm!

catspaw---hacking a hairball


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: campfire
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 07:41 PM

Geez, catspaw - Rhino Phlegm Salad? Is that what you eat while blowing possum butt?

I agree about the veggies in the Jello, tho - keep it to fruit, pleez!

campfire


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 08:00 PM

No campfire......possum butt goes better with carp. It's a kind of surf and turf thing.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Clay
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 08:17 PM

Thank you all. I got the words and a goodly number of new recipes for church suppers.

You are all Great.

CLay


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 08:26 PM

Tryong to cut down on the size of the congregation Clay?

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Terry
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 08:31 PM

What a great song! I only read this thread because I'm hungry and I'm in the office tonight preparing to leave on a business trip to Tokyo. Otherwise, nothing would keep me away from the potluck supper at my father's Quaker Meetinghouse. He promised he'll bring me home a dish. I'm looking forward to tucking into about six different combinations of starch and mayonnaise (potato salad and macaroni salad and rice salad ...) as well as my favorite green bean-mushroom soup casserole with the crunchy french-fried onion rings on top. And, there will be the inevitable lime jello ring. Like WW, I eat in restaurants a lot, and I agree there's something very comforting about church supper fare. Now, I've got to learn that song.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Margo
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 08:32 PM

It's amazing how suggestible a person can be. I remember in second grade strawberry jello being served for St. Vanentine's day. One kid ate theirs, and promptly threw up. I didn't eat Jello for years after that.

I was in front of the throw upper. The close proximity probably had a lot to do with it. So hack away, Cat'spaw, I sympathize.

Margarita


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: WyoWoman
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:07 PM

My dogs are staring at me as if I've gone completely over the edge. I keep laughing uproariously and clicking away. Amazing what a response JELLO can cause. I have a vague memory of some of my friends back in the '70s filling up a bathtub with Jello and mushing around in it. I didn't join in (I don't think. Some of that time is hazy...), but I've always thought that sounded fun in a squishy sort of way....Might take a good bit of Jello, however, and what a tub ring THAT would cause...

WW


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:20 PM

and the teeny little marshmallows! don't forget those!! (does anyone remember the COLORED ones?)

WyoW..(I have used the 'linewithoutajoke' for years about being caught with "a goat, a nun, and a trampoline full of lime jello"...usually, I get only a smart remark about the flavor of the jello)


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:32 PM

Marshmallows are OK Bill. It's the veggies that are out. Matter of fact, I can deal with all the fruit but just leave the Turnip/Rasberry type combos in the recipe book.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: WyoWoman
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:43 PM

I guess I can't count on you to help me finish this great coleslaw/broccoli lemon jello with crispy onion rings on the top then?

WW


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:45 PM

well, 'spaw!...and I was gonna post my grannie's Persimmon-Okra compote recipe!...*gyyaaakkk*..made MYSELF ill jusr trying to be funny!


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:50 PM

Whaddaya mean, "remember, Bill? I was in the Sheridan Select Market yesterday, buying marshmellows for the kids to make some-mores, and I had to wade thru all these packages of teeny colored ones to find the regular size.
Bron, do you not know what Jello is, really? It's a gelatin based fruit flavored salad(Midwest US) or dessert(rest of the nation). The red flavors can be found at every church potluck everywhere with sliced bananas and grapes embedded in the clear wiggly base.It is by adding hot water to package of flavored gelatin powder.

By the way, church potluck Jello afficionados should read the passage in Barbara Kingsolver's book, (I think it's in Pigs in Heaven?) where the frustrated woman, bent on revenging herself on her mother-in-law, empties the entire bottom of the kitchen junk drawer (washers, paperclips, barrettes, bottle caps, etc) into the Jello along with a can of fruit cocktail, and tapes her m-in-law's name to the bottom of the pan before taking it to the church social.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 09:59 PM

I know what you mean Bill......and I will not be around for your temptasty treat either WW.

ALSO.......I promise I won't, but this makes me think about a thread for "Most Undesirable Foods." When I was a kid, one of the most disappointing and hideous food experiences always occured at my Grandmother's. About once every two weeks, that big fluffy bowl of mashed potatoes turned out to be mashed turnips and DAMN if I didn't grab a big wad every time.........Hard to believe, but as a kid I was even dumber than I am now. But I loved her mashed 'taters so much.......Do you have any idea what it's like to spoon turnips into your mouth thinking they're potatoes???

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Llanfair
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 03:37 AM

Oh yes, Barbara, we do have jelly over here, but we only put fruit into it, not marshmallows or nuts, or vegetables!!!!! The people in this area of Wales, Catspaw, have a dish called "stwmp" which involves mashing turnip in with the mashed potato, you'd love it!!!!! Hwyl, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 03:54 AM

Bron, I still wonder if we're communicating across the ocean. What we're talking about is JELLO brand gelatin dessert, not the jelly you might put on a peanut butter sandwich if you were an American. Two different animals. (By the way, JELLO is an animal product, and I don't think we want to get into the details.....)
Now, I have a theory that the church ladies have to put nuts and celery and such in Jello for potlucks because the stuff is just too sensuous when it's served all by itself. It has that wonderful wiggle, and the colors are about as good as food coloring can get. And if you look through it at a person of the opposite sex, you can really start to get ideas.
Put walnuts in it, and it's just dessert.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:10 AM

One people divided by a common language.

What do you UK types call preserves or conserves without the fruit bits in it? If that's jelly, that's not what we are talking about.

We are talking about the kind of gelatin that causes liquids to set up, (like you might use in an aspic) not the kind made by boiling fruit and sugar.

There. Are we confused yet?
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:36 AM

Like the slogan goes, "There's always room for ground up horse's hooves." --Gelatin was originally made from them.

But that's not what I came to talk about.........

Uh, Joe..........Looking at the opposite sex through a blob of Jello gets your crank turnin'? Mother Mary, I thought Duane was in trouble with the mirrors thing, but this..............Maybe if you were gonna' wallow around with your partner in a tub of the stuff coated with Wesson Oil I could see it, but LOOKING THROUGH IT?

I'm sending along an admission form for the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed. PLease fill it out and also note your check-in is for the 20th. We will cover the cost of your stay and a tiple will be sent there in your name for your personal use. Get some rest and come back to us real soon.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Dave Swan
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:54 AM

Now dammit, Catspaw, I've been sitting on my hands for two days trying not to follow you down the gutter of thread creep. I've resisted the revolting foods creep, didn't talk about a household where organ meats were the norm, oh no, didn't go there. Now you and the usually respectable Offer start in with Jello and Wesson oil. O.K. pal, the gauntlet is thrown. I've got three words. Kraft Marshmallow Cream.

Conjure with that as the day goes by.

Cheers, D.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Dave Swan
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:57 AM

Uh, me again. Maybe I just need a cold shower and a bed next to Joe's. Cheers, D.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 11:08 AM

Thanks for this. As a similar dish is going to be under construction next weekend for our annual visit (17 of us this year!)to our local racetrack (Ascot) to make donations to sick and injured horses ("I didn't realise they were sick and injured when I put the money on"), I will show this to my everloving as a reward for all her work on the Paddy Roberts lyrics. Sounds like the women's group at her church might appreciate it too!
Ever since she put a one pound bet on Frankie Detorri winning every race the year he won all 7 (bought a pair of earrings out of it!)we hope the luck will rub off on the rest of us, but apart from one friend who usually makes a profit (luck of the Irish) the rest of us jusyt enjoy the company and the food afterwards (even the lime jello...).


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 11:11 AM

No Dave, the marshmallow creme is OK, although I must ask, how long have you been on duty?

I go for Cool Whip now after a particularly bad experience with that gooey Kraft stuff about 25 years ago. I will not get into details as I hate to offend, but let me give you apiece of advice. DO NOT use the stuff if you're partying out in the woods. You and your partner will end up looking like swamp creatures and going into the lake seems to complicate matters even more. Now if you go straight back to camp, you can scare the hell out everyone that's sitting around the fire telling ghost stories, but this is not sufficient cause for the clean up involved.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Fadac
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 11:31 AM

If you hear a big rumble, thats my tummy, from way out here on the left coast. All this talk about colorfull and wiggely foods. Hmmmm

Ok, what flavor do you use, to fill the swimming pool? How many grapes?

Church Jello, (sigh) I once went with a Morman lady. So I got to experiance all of the wonderfull church foods. I tried to make the fruit/nut/marshmello thing...once.

All the nuts/fruit sank like stones to the bottom of the mold. The Marshmellows floated to the top. When this thing setup, and I flipped it, it sort of looked like a see through upside down coffe cake, that had been left in the rain too long. I think the whip cream on top, was the real clincher. I put some candy sprinkles on the whip cream. That looked so good, I put more on the sides. Then Ritz crackers around the side, Not forgeting the cheese whip.

I don't know who the guy was, but I think he was some upity in the church. (Do Mormans have pastors?) Anyway, he looked at my jello, then looked at me with some real sad hound dog eyes, and said. "Your very sick, son. You really need some help. Marry the girl."

With visions of endless processions of various lime jellos, and baked beans, and fried chicken, and 47 kinds of potato salad. I jumped on the old Harley and ran for my life. The girl and I just naturaly split up, she married a nice Morman guy and had six kids.

(Whew! Saved by the jello)

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Dave Swan
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 11:33 AM

Catspaw, But if you stand close enough to the fire and toast it a golden brown, now you've got something. Can't you hear the voice of Ed Herlihy saying "Try this tasty Kraft treat..."?

You have discerned the cause of my dementia, buddy. 48 hours down and 24 to go.

Cheers, D.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Fadac
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 12:07 PM

Dave, How do you toast jello? I tried it once, and it kept slipping off the stick.

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Night Owl
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 12:15 PM

Use a condom. (Sorry...couldn't resist.)


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 12:20 PM

Who remembers this...sung to approximately the tune of "The Hinky-Dinky Spider"?

"Oh, the big red letters stand for the Jello fam-i-lee
the big red letters stand for the Jello fam-i-lee..
Strawberry, Raspberry, Cherry, Orange, Lemon and Lime...
"My daddy likes it!"

Commercial on the "The Baby Snooks Show"...starring, and sung by, Fanny Bryce


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 12:22 PM

So Owl, if I combine your idea with Dave's toasty suggestion, it would be a kinda' "Peel and Eat" thing huh?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: folk1234
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 12:32 PM

rich r: Is there a tune for LJMCCS? Chords?


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: LEJ
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 01:37 PM

The lime jello with shredded carrots takes me right back to high school lunches. You'd get the jello, and tater tots, a stale roll, and meatloaf with antiseptic gravy (at least it tasted like it had antiseptic in it). I think that jello with vegetables in it was probably the result of the Jello Company's attempt to broaden it's market with thrifty homemakers of the 50's."Hey Mom! Jello 's not just for desert... add carrots, walnuts, even celery to turn Jello into a complete meal the whole family will love!"

Catspaw, I thought my Mom was the only one who tried to foist off turnips as potatoes. One bite and I knew something was wrong, but she stuck to her story. What was worse, Dad would play along. I'm still a little bitter about it.

Speaking of great foods of the 50's, anybody remeber "Tamale Pie"? It was some kind of chili stuff mixed with canned corn and topped with cornbread. Dad loved it, so we had it about once a week.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 02:02 PM

Not only do I remember, I'm still eatin' the stuff, Leej!!! One of Karen's favorite Weight Watcher recipes is a variant that's really pretty good called "Tofu Tamale Pie." Excellent "flaming" source.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Dave Swan
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 02:17 PM

Anybody ever have Wagon Wheels? I think the recipe was on the Bisquik box. Make a ring of dough out of Bisquik, fill it with ground beef, top it with catsup and American cheese. Bake it 'til the Bisquik can only be described on the Rockwell scale. Feed it to your family. Loved it as a kid. You couldn't feed it to me now with a slingshot. Dave


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 03:53 PM

That's because your teeth get brittle with advancing years and you are so right about that damn Bisquik. I don't think that there is anything which CANNOT be made with Bisquik.......except something edible. It always has that "Bisquik flavor" which is so distinctive..... Particularly those freakin' biscuits!!!!!! The only thing worse is "WHOMP" biscuits.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 03:53 PM

That's because your teeth get brittle with advancing years and you are so right about that damn Bisquik. I don't think that there is anything which CANNOT be made with Bisquik.......except something edible. It always has that "Bisquik flavor" which is so distinctive..... Particularly those freakin' biscuits!!!!!! The only thing worse is "WHOMP" biscuits.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Fadac
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 04:15 PM

Anybody ever been on Class III rations? Everything comes from a can.

We had that for a couple of months when I was in Viet Nam. We had some sort of mystry meat. A sort of white meat. With white gravy they called it turkey. With brown, pork. Still tasted the same.

Then there was the roast beef, mashed potatoes, peas, and grape cool-aid. I think we had that twice a day for a few months too.

Canned hot dogs. Yummmm, Brings back memorys. The Army had three deserts. Cherry pie, ice cream and spice cake. Let me tell you about the spice cake. I once put a blasing cap inside a piece on night. We waited untill there were three or four rats eating the cake. BOOOM the cake shattered and killed every rat. YesSir, the spice cake did a few uses. Made great wheel chocks for a Duce- and-a-half too.

I still can't drink grape cool-aid.

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Peter T.
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 04:43 PM

I have a friend (who is now a professor at a prestigious American University, so I will not use his name, unless I send him this thread and blackmail him) who at university concocted this cookbook called "The Bad Food Diet".
It was made up of all the disgusting Kraft recipes mentioned on this thread (Who can forget: "Sit back and wait for the compliments?") and others. The idea was that if you ate some of this stuff, you would hate food for a few days, and persistence in working your way through the book would make you lose a lot of weight. The best section was: "What I Dared My Sister To Drink." which was, no surprise, a description of how to dump whatever you find in the refrigerator or wherever, and put it into a glass, and....
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 04:45 PM

Fadac - C rations - eccchhhh! I particularly hated the ham - several ounces of salt dissolved in something chewy that might have been meat. I used to search out items that weren't supposed to have much meat in them. Loved beans and weenies. Now there are Meals, Ready to Eat(MREs). They come conveniently packaged in a bag in which you can later deposit the results of the meal. The ham hasn't changed, other than it isn't can-shaped. Before they gave up making them, people used to fight to not end up with the omelets-in-a-bag and dehydrated-pork-patties-in a-bag. The meals do have an added plus of causing constipation. (Not necessarily a bad thing when your options are port-o-poopers or a hole in the ground.)

Catspaw, I'll bite. Wotsa "WHOMP bisuit?


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Llanfair
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 05:02 PM

Now we've got it straight about jello being jelly, and jelly being jam, or conserve if you're posh and buy your food at Marks and Spencer, what have you done to the wagon wheel? It's a large round chocolate biscuit (cookie?), with jam(!)and marshmallow filling. Us Brits love to talk about when we were little and wagon wheels were HUGE. You had to hold them with two hands!!! There! I haven't lost the plot at all!!!!!!!! Bron.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 05:07 PM

The late Jerry Clower gets credit for originating this term.....WHOMP biscuits. Every country boy in this part of the world knows there ain't nothin' like homemade biscuits...with whatever you want on 'em. There is nothing like waking up to the smells of Country Ham (not that city tastin' sugar cured stuff you get for supper) and good homemade biscuits. Now to one of us the most DEPRESSING sound in the world that can come out of a kitchen is the "whomp" sound that's made when your wife opens up a CAN of those store bought mohunkers. Hence the name.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 06:05 PM

Even worse is the "WHOMP" sound YOU make when your wife is still in bed and you make YOUR OWN biscuits and gravy. But, you know a well made gravy can almost make up for the blandness of the whomp biscuits. Just wish I could find some decent sausage out here- Jimmy Dean just doesn't hold a candle to Odem's ,Pernell's Old Folks , or Tennessee Pride.
My wife is English, and just doesn't understand about REAL sausage- she thinks sausage is those bland white tubes of meat paste that English people buy at places like "TESCO"S". She resists my efforts to introduce her to the more sophisticated cuisines.

LEJ Gourmet of Fine Southern Cooking


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 06:32 PM

Double clarifying Bron. We have two jellies. Gelatine jelly, available in fruit flavours, in which we might put fruit (when it is partly thickened to avoid it all floating or sinking); and fruit conserve strained through a muslin so as to have no bits in it. This may be different in Scotland, where there is something called a jelly piece, which I understand is what I call a jam sandwich. Though I long believed that Jello was a trade name for a variety of jelly, I am reliably informed by a family who had an American teenager with food fads (nothing to do with her being American - she would have been like it wherever she was from) on an exchange visit that our jellies, including the veggie agar versions, are nothing at all like Jello, and totally unacceptable as substitutes. (And we've got ever so many flavours!)

We do have dishes involving jelly and vegetables, but in this case the jelly is called aspic, and is even meatier than usual, being made with stock or consomme.

We usually distinguish which sort of jelly from context. In the same wayI know there is one part of the country where they use orange juice to refer both to the juice, and to the diluted drink derived from it, which we call squash. I cannot usually tell which they mean, but they can.

And what are your good sausages like? Ours, and you do have to know where to shop, have lots of thickly cut, chewy bits of meat, and an excellent variety of herb, spice or other additions such as leek, apple, etc. But the ones with no texture - ugh, you might as well eat soya or Quorn.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:01 PM

Penny- actually that was a little joke directed at my wife, who is addicted to English sausages. Our sausages, or at least the "country" style sausage I was talking about, are basically ground pork. You make patties out of it, fry it up, and make gravy with the drippings. It is usually flavored with sage, sometimes red pepper. The gravy is usually made with milk, water, flour and spices (no Bisto, please). When you come to the States ,Catspaw and I will cook you breakfast, and you can enjoy all the benefits of our traditional "Cholesterol Cuisine".:) LEJ


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: WyoWoman
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:51 PM

And I will send anyone anywhere in the world who wants to try the joys of Jello a few packages in a variety of flavors. Except Joe Offer. He would only get himself in trouble.

And I, being a Southern gal by heritage and training, am a master biscuit maker. I cannot believe and am deeply, I say deeply, affronted by WHOMP biscuits. (Except, of course, if it's an acronym for What Has Our Mommas P**sed, which my momma would most definitely be if she knew anyone in MY house had to eat those biscuits from a can.)

A person who would serve WHOMP biscuits couldn't possibly know the first thing about gravy-making, which every Southern girl has to ace before she can move on to the intricacies of Jello molds. Or is it moulds?

WW


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 10:53 PM

Nicely put Leej........I got myself in some hot water awhile back on calling what the English call scones, biscuits. Biscuits are cookies and scones are biscuits........somethin' or another. On the other hand........

Penny I do love "Toad in the Hole" with really GOOD sausage......and I can guarantee that we're the only family in a 25 mile radius that eats the stuff.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Barbara
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 02:11 AM

What about Bubble and Squeak, catspaw? (creep, creep)


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Sourdough
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 02:27 AM

We serve a couple of things at our house that seem to cause a fe w folks to check on what is being served before they accept a dinner invitation. However, we never serve them to "outsiders". My wife is from Bavaria, a small village about 40 kilometers from Munich and she has a special menu. Strange thing is I have come to enjoy them.

The first one of these she served was Liburger and boiled potatoes. It tastes surprisingly good but you have to store it inside three zip lock baggies in the house or else you will run the chance of smelling your living quarters with that special eye-watering odor that comes along with the Limburger.

The second was Sour Liver. That is strips of cows' (not calves') liver cooked in a vinegar sauce.

But she is open to other tastes. On a trip across the US, we stopped in Leadville, CO for dinner. I convinced her to try something that had what was, to her, the incomprehensible name of Chicken Fried Steak. It was love at first bite for her but Red Eye Gravy was too. She always opts for the white flour gravy.

Sourdough


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 04:39 AM

I found this thread too late to post my favorite kind of jello--orange with mushrooms, anchovies, and kimchee--added after the jello has thickened but not quite set, Fadac; keeps the goodies from rising or sinking.

--seed


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Clay
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 06:33 AM

And to think all I wanted was the real name of a song. Wish this group was arount 30 years back when my wife and I went to a pot luck with our small church group and absolutely everyone brought scalloped patotes.--actually happened. Any nervous pudding would have been welcomed.

Clay


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Barbara
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 09:10 AM

Round from music camp, I forget which one --
YOu haven't been eating
Scallopped potatoes
For three days
Like I have

Blessings,
Barbara, who's off to Michigan to visit her folks


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 10:05 AM

Barbara, We stopped doing "Bubble and Squeak" ...... WAY too much bubble and squeak later.

And Clay, when I was a kid, I thought there was nothing finer than sscalloped 'taters. I was 5 and helping my Grandfather plant his garden; as we planted potatoes, someone asked what kind they were. I piped right up and said "Scalloped." I had some vision of these things coming up fully cooked in a casserole dish.

'Seed, I'm having a lot of second thoughts about all the wonderful things I believe about you. I'm about to have a technicolor yawn here.........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: RiGGy
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 11:19 AM

Hey Sandy Paton !!

What was that song on a recording on Folk Legacy ca1969 by Sandy & Jeannie Darlington [sp ?] called "I don't want to be Jello neither" ?? RiGi


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Bert
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 12:17 PM

Well one thing that seems to have been overlooked in the Jelly/Jello discussion is that when you buy it in England it is in a different form. The packet looks the same as a packet of Jello, but inside it isn't a powder, it is a solid block of firm jelly that you can eat straight from the packet, just like candy. Great for a snack.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 05:36 PM

Not if it's veggie jelly, that's a powder. But it doesn't set as well.

By the way, I thought you couldn't use pineapple in jelly as the enzymes stopped the set.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 05:38 PM

I really must think things through completely. Bert, jelly cubes are now the nearest thing to Rowntrees fruit gums available. Nestle have changed the recipe completely.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: WyoWoman
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:53 PM

Penny-- You have to wait until it's almost set before you fold in the (very drained) pineapple chunks.

I can't believe I"m giving instructions on Jello cuisine online. What has this world come to? >B-}

WW


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 02:21 AM

Ah ha, I think the problem may have been with fresh pineapple. Saturday lunch will be pineapple jelly with S'mores on the side.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Night Owl
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 02:54 AM

Penny, can we all come if we only want to eat the S'mores??


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Fadac
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 06:43 PM

How about some Cheeri O's. Could call them safty gaskets for blowing possoms.

Now what flavor of jello? Hmmmmm

No grapes please.

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Fadac
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 06:43 PM

How about some Cheeri O's. Could call them safty gaskets for blowing possoms.

Now what flavor of jello? Hmmmmm

No grapes please.

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: bob schwarer
Date: 23 Jul 99 - 01:10 PM

Just got around to reading this. My wife makes a lime-jello salad the grandkids call "Green Stuff". They love it.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Jul 99 - 06:44 PM

I now have the English Brownies (little Girl Scouts) S'mores version. Two chocolate digestive biscuits, chocolate sides inside, around the marshmallows. Do have have half-coated graham crackers? Actually, given the standard of the biscuit coating chocolate, I think I may well prefer the American. Trials are required. Which reminds me, I never completed the trials on sucking coffee through a Tim-Tam. (Aussie biscuits no longer on sale.)

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Jul 99 - 07:28 PM

You may have read that I have been out. Clearly what I have imbibed has affected the balanced of left right hand typing, and word order. Do you have half-coated graham crackers is what I meant. You wouldn't believe the number of corrections I have had to do here.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 06:02 AM

It may be a bit OTT to add to something which I seem to have monopolised rather, but there was a programme on the TV the other week about 1920's food, in which the fashion for things in aspic was mentioned. Apparently, it was the result of the development of patent foods, powdered gelatine among them, liberating cooks from the need to boil up and clarify their own hooves. They could do it, so they did. Without any consideration for whether the results were worth eating or not.
I have no personal experience of these.
There is a shop in London which sells Jello. I have resisted it so far, though this thread waves past when I go there. (For the Australian Cherry Ripes.)
Penny


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: open mike
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 02:25 PM

marshmallows are a good companion to jello, as they are both made from horsie hooves...or something similar...

although there is a "health food" marshmallow made from Agar agar.

sometimes jello is made with less water, and this is used for crafts
projects or food that can be cut and formed (with cookie cutters, for instance)
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,jello_jigglers,FF.html
that is for the kids, but for big kids, they prefer adding alcohol
--called jello shots--http://www.myscienceproject.org/j-shot-3.html

also used as a medium for art...
http://current.com/items/90416121_jello-shot-art-bill-cosby.htm


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 06:27 AM

This is the version 'Er Indoors uses:

Cucumber & Grape Salad

1 large cucumber, peeled and thinly sliced
1lb green grapes, washed, halved & seeded
15 fl oz water
5 oz packet lemon jelly (I use lime)
3 tablespoons orange juice
5 tablespoons lemon juice
1 tablespoon very finely chopped onion
1/8 teaspoon cayenne pepper
½ teaspoon salt
¼ teaspoon freshly ground black pepper

Marinade
3 tablespoons olive oil
1 tablespoon wine vinegar
¼ teaspoon salt
¼ teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
¼ teaspoon dry mustard

To prepare the marinade: in a medium-sized bowl, combine the oil, vinegar, salt, pepper and mustard, beating with a fork until all the ingredients are blended.
Place the cucumber slices and grapes in the bowl and marinate them for at least 30 minutes or until you are ready to use them.
In a small saucepan, bring 5 fluid oz of water to the boil over moderate heat. Remove the pan from the heat and add the jelly. Stir until the jelly has dissolved. Stir in the remaining water. Stir in the orange and lemon juice, onion, cayenne, salt and pepper. Cool the jelly until it is almost set. With a slotted spoon, remove the grapes and cucumber slices from the marinade. Drain them thoroughly on kitchen paper towels and then add most of them to the jelly. (You can reserve the marinade and remaining grapes and cucumber to garnish the jelly when set.)
Spoon the jelly into a 2½ pint mould. Cover the mould with clingfilm or foil and put it in the refrigerator to chill for 3 to 4 hours or until the jelly is completely set.



RtS


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: Artful Codger
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 01:49 PM

Ahem, getting back to music (this is not supposed to be a BS thread), and the Bolcom song in particular...I remember hearing Joan Morris and William Bolcom perform this song (recitative) in a taped concert for PBS and later live. Jody Karin Applebaum has also recorded it on her albums Masterpieces of Cabaret and Serious Fun! (Have to say, I prefer Morris's renditions of the Bolcom cabaret songs and Marni Nixon's renditions of the Schönberg ones.) Although the Masterpieces liner notes include lyrics for most songs, it does not include them for this one. You can download the "Lime Jello" cut from Serious Fun! at Amazon.com.


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: open mike
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 02:33 PM

don't tell olddude but there is another thread on this
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=122592&messages=7


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: GUEST,Ken Brock
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 02:49 PM

Here's the track list from the Bolcom and Morris LIME JELLO lp /cassette, sadly out of print:

http://bolcomandmorris.com/index.php?contentID=1145


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: GUEST,Ken Brock
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 02:51 PM

made into a blue clicky:

Bolcom and Morris Lime Jello lp


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Subject: RE: Lime Jello Salad.
From: PoppaGator
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 03:08 PM

"...I often use all caps in my personal lyric sheets because it is easier for my bad eyes to see..."

According to scientific studies, anecdotal evident, and informed common sense, lower-case transcription (as well as standard caps-and-lowers) is MUCH more legible. Lowercase letters come in a wider variety of shapes and sizes ~ some with "ascenders" sticking up high, some with "descenders" below the baseline, etc. ~ and are thereby more easily distinguished from each other than are the capital letters, all of essentially the same size and shape.

It is not unusual for people to make the unfounded assumption that "big" letters ~ caps ~ would be easier to read than lowercase, but it is simply not true, which you can easily demonstrate to yourself if you compare the same text printed out both ways and test them for readability.

Also, if you type out your set of lyrics or whatever in caps-and-lowercase, you can probably fit the whole song on a page in a larger type size than in all-caps.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lime Jello Salad? / Lime Jell-O...
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 06:14 PM

Ah, the golden days when William Bolcom and Joan Morris toured the land with their knock-out recitals. I believe both have now retired from university teaching (Ann Arbor, Mich., was it?) and maybe they don't tour like they did when I was a university student. I attended more than one of their evenings.

This song was usually done near the end of the show. Much of its appeal is based on the shock value of hearing it the very first time. Once you have made the song's acquaintance, the experience changes completely. I learned the song well enough to use it for an audition -- passed it too.

So now, when I hear "Lime Jello Marshmallow Cottage Cheese SURPRISE!!", I sit back, anticipating every sucker-punch in the lyrics, and watch the audience -- the newbies, anyway -- jumping about like marionettes on strings.

Mr. Bolcom and Ms. Morris remarked, introducing the song one evening, that after several seasons of singing it, and having the song requested, and so on, people started cooking the stuff that was described in the song, and the statement from the stage was:
"I believe we have now eaten every dish mentioned in this song. "

This reminds me of the "Company" showstopper sung by Elaine Stritch:
"Here's to the Ladies Who Lunch...."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lime Jello Salad? / Lime Jell-O...
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Sep 16 - 02:58 PM

Someone asked after music, near the middle of this thread.

Yes, William Bolcom is the author of both words and music, and his publisher is Edward -er, B?- Marks Music Company.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lime Jello Salad? / Lime Jell-O...
From: frogprince
Date: 09 Sep 16 - 06:09 PM

How did this thread ever come and go without Olddude showing up?


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