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GUEST,Tunesmith 05 Oct 09 - 04:32 PM
Jack Blandiver 05 Oct 09 - 05:45 PM
The Vulgar Boatman 05 Oct 09 - 05:55 PM
GUEST,John Barnes 06 Oct 09 - 03:00 AM
greg stephens 06 Oct 09 - 03:58 AM
Les in Chorlton 06 Oct 09 - 06:22 AM
GUEST,Tunesmith 06 Oct 09 - 06:36 AM
Smedley 06 Oct 09 - 07:08 AM
Brakn 06 Oct 09 - 07:39 AM
Folkiedave 06 Oct 09 - 03:29 PM
Murray MacLeod 06 Oct 09 - 05:16 PM
GUEST,Charley O'Neill 07 Oct 09 - 10:27 AM
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Subject: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 04:32 PM

Forgive me if this has been discussed before! I've included a link to some Youtube footage of a famous - in the UK - 50s pop/rock tv show "Oh Boy". In this particular episode UK pop singer Mike Preston sings "Dirty Old Town" ( it starts at about 2mins in the clip). This was also Preston's first single and it was produced by the "legendary"
British record producer Joe Meek. I assume this must be one of the earliest recordings of this song. Listen that heavenly choir! - and I notice - even back then - how the lyrics stray from Ewan's original at various points.

Dirty Old Town 1959


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 05:45 PM

For anyone else who's just sat through Tunesmith's link and been plunged in a state of utter abject despair, here's the antidote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzTw4PYfROU

It took 29 years, but we got there.


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: The Vulgar Boatman
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 05:55 PM

A much murdered song. I seem to recall that there were a couple of recordings from the sixties which did justice to the jazz/blues feel of the original - Ian Campbell did a nicely understated version.


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: GUEST,John Barnes
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 03:00 AM

How well known was this song in 1959? One wonders how Joe Meek, Mike Preston or whoever knew about its existence. I assume that Ewan recorded it first, but, after that, who were the next folkie individuals or groups to pick up on it. I'm prtetty sure that, the Ian Campbell Group and The Spinners didn't record it until the 60s.


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: greg stephens
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 03:58 AM

I have the Decca EP with Ewan McColl singing it, accompanied by Alan Lomax and the Ramblersd(quite a jazzy line-up).
The "gasworks croft" line seemed to cause him as much of a problem as it did to the Pogues.


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 06:22 AM

I seem to remember Duffy Power singing it on something or other. 65 Special? O Boy?

L in C


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 06:36 AM

Les, if you've watched the clip, then you'll realise that it probably wasn't Duffy that recall but Mike Preston ( I believe there is a facial similarity between the two).


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: Smedley
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 07:08 AM

It's interesting the Joe Meek was involved - his other-wordly tastes & lavish production style seems like the polar opposite of folk.

As for the Joy Division clip - is it just me that sees a lot of Mr Bean in Ian Curtis ??


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: Brakn
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 07:39 AM

Very interesting..and all the comments as well.

Can't quite see the link to Joy Division.


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: Folkiedave
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 03:29 PM

MacColl first recorded this for Topic in 1952/Sheffield Apprentice TRC 56


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 05:16 PM

what's the relevance of the Joy Division link ?


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Subject: RE: Dirty Old Town - pop single 1959!
From: GUEST,Charley O'Neill
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 10:27 AM

Murray, if you don't understand the reference...maybe one day you will.
Keep growing! Charley O'Neill


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