BS: Bombing the Moon

Subject: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 09:58 AM

I only heard about this today. I'm surprised there hasn't been more coverage. At first I thought the person who told me about it was on drugs. According to NASA the plume will be visible from earth.

Got this from the NASA website

"LCROSS launched with the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) aboard an Atlas V rocket from Cape Canaveral, Fla., on June 18, 2009 at 2:32 p.m. PDT. The LCROSS shepherding spacecraft and the Atlas V's Centaur upper stage rocket executed a fly-by of the moon on June 23, 2009 (LCROSS lunar swingby video stream coverage) and entered into an elongated Earth orbit to position LCROSS for impact on a lunar pole. On final approach, the shepherding spacecraft and Centaur will separate. The Centaur will act as a heavy impactor to create a debris plume that will rise above the lunar surface. Projected impact at the lunar South Pole is currently: Oct 9, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. PDT. Following four minutes behind, the shepherding spacecraft will fly through the debris plume, collecting and relaying data back to Earth before impacting the lunar surface and creating a second debris plume."

NASA LCROSS mission

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 10:42 AM

Good idea -- make sure water's there instead of having to haul it up to a colony (granted the colony would eventually became water-stable, but that would require a balancing act).

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 11:15 AM

LOL Sounds like the makings of a great sci-fi movie. See - there really is life on the moon but it has chosen not to reveal itself to us. Now we will have a formal declaration of war - a real Star Wars.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 11:26 AM

The person who told me about it also sent me a link to this site:

Alien Base?

"Could NASA be waging war on alien races.

That is the question being tossed around at this very time in the wake of a recent release of information regarding the plans NASA has to bomb the moon. With all the information that has recently been disclosed regarding alien bases on the back side of the moon, it makes one wonder if we asked for anyones permission to bomb the moon for any reason. If there is infact an alien base on the moon, we hope that they have been informed and agree with NASA on behalf of the human race to drop a 2-ton kinetic weapon in the aim of creating a 5 mile wide deep crater. The following article was origionally featured by Alfred Lambremont Webre, The Seattle Exopolitics Examiner, in late June of 2009. If this subject concerns you in the slightest than please read on."

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Alice
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 11:42 AM

Heard a report on NPR this week regarding the testing for water on the moon (that's what the project is about, as Rapaire noted).

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 11:50 AM

why take such a destructive approach in the search for water on the moon ... attaching a divining rod onto the nose of some lunar orbiter would be more effective and much more peaceful.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 11:51 AM

testing for water on the moon

That's what they want you to believe it is about...

Really, since the plume is supposed to visible from Earth I am surprised there hasn't been more buzz about this.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Alice
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 12:21 PM

oooh the big THEY.
scary conspiracy theory in

3, 2, 1

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 12:39 PM

I wonder if they plan to hit the moon when it's full. It would make an easier target.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 01:10 PM

When does this happen in BST?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 01:16 PM

Honest - I was joking...

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 01:17 PM

Isn't this something which is rather beyond the authority of the USA to do on its own?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 01:44 PM

bombing the moon

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 01:56 PM

should have had the myth buster guys build a big ass sling shot instead of wasting a half a billion dollars

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 02:52 PM

How asinine and sad...we can't destruct our own home planet fast enough, so we have to start on the moon, now, too? And, I agree, McGrath...what gives the USA the authority to do this? This is an insult and assault that is despicable.
Also, if the plume will be visible on Earth, I have doubts it will be as small as they are projecting.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 02:54 PM

The moon has been 'bombed' since its origin- meteorites, asteroids and etc. have created the numerous craters.

You need to have a pretty good telescope to see the hit. Like the big ones in Hawai'i.

A water supply on the moon will make extended or permanent stays possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:01 PM

"extended or permanent stays possible"

long enough to make a mess of it.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: gnu
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:03 PM

I didn't read up on it. Of course, they are not bombs, they are projectiles. In any case, why? Can anyone sum it up in a nutshell?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:09 PM

My thoughts exactly, biLL.

Q, at least the other "bombs" you mention are natural. Thanks for the info re' telescopes.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:25 PM

There could be a number of possible reasons for such an action to be taken by "them".

And what does them mean? Does it mean something laughably dark, deep, and mysterious? What is termed: "a conspiracy theory" by anyone who wished to make fun of it?

No. "They" simply means: those people who are in charge of formulating, ordering, and carrying out any given course of action. The ones who give the orders. Period.

That's not mysterious at all, but it CAN be termed a conspiracy if there is not full public disclosure of exactly what is going on and why.

That being the case, a great many things that are done by our governments are conspiracies...if you wish to call them conspiracies...because they are done without full public disclosure of exactly what is going on and why.

911, for example, was clearly the result of a conspiracy...and ANY theory about it IS a conspiracy theory, including the government's offical version of what supposedly happened.

To cry "conspiracy theory" whenever you wish to ridicule or put down something someone else says is to use a meaningless popular cliche that adds nothing useful to the conversation, but simply allows you to contemptuously dismiss what someone else is saying about something....regardless of the possibility that they might be onto something.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:32 PM

A projectile launched from space would hit the earth with a force exceeding many atomic bombs with no fallout to contend with. Does anyone else but me think it is a military test? To my thinking it is the perfect weapon, all the damage but none of the collateral issues associated with atomic weapons. And by definition it would not be an atomic weapon bypassing all the treaties.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:34 PM

Trying to determine if there is water on the moon is, I think, a worthwhile endeavor; that is, if we harbor any ambitions of ever traveling off this planet beyond the occasional exploratory robot mission. And it's not as if the moon has any kind of "ecosystem" that can be adversely affected, although I would certainly not like to see the moon turned into any kind of garbage dump. I don't think that's what's on NASA's agenda.

Other than a space station, scientific outpost, or possible relay station for more far-reaching space missions, I can't see the moon being used as a habitat for large groups of people. I also have my doubts about Mars. Negligible atmosphere and no magnetic field to shield it from the less pleasant solar radiations as the earth has, but who knows? Venus? Seems pretty unlikely, considering the composition of its atmosphere and the fact that the greenhouse effect keeps it as hot as a pizza oven, but a few decades back, Carl Sagan outlined a reasonable sounding plan for terraforming it, altering the atmosphere and reducing the temperature, and making it livable for humans.

Not to mention planets orbiting nearby stars. More are being discovered every day (night?).

Who knows? The sky's the limit, as they say.

But as to the idea that NASA is attacking aliens, either native to the moon (!!???) or ones who came from elsewhere and are using the moon as some kind of base, if it were the latter, the chances that they came from anywhere within the solar system is next to impossible, and if they came from beyond the solar system (Alpha Centauri or Wolf 359, say) that means they have the means to travel substantial distances, which, in turn, means they have some pretty heavy-duty technology. I don't think NASA would be dumb enough to want to piss off anyone who has that kind of potential.

Don Firth

P. S.   Buck Rogers was a boyhood hero of mine. Very fond of the writings of the late Arthur C. Clarke. All my life, I've been into astronomy and cosmology in a big way.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 03:47 PM

Read Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" to learn about Moon to Earth projectiles -- and why it can't happen the other way around. His math and science are accurate.

There's nobody up on the Moon. I know because the folks from Vega (the Vegans) told me so. They're all out on Deimos and Phobos.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 04:04 PM

Yup. Read it.

(Be seeing you in a couple of days!)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 04:13 PM

Thar's gold in them thar hills.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 04:25 PM

Heric
perfect, can't stop laughing ... that was great!

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 04:59 PM

"Trying to determine if there is water on the moon is, I think, a worthwhile endeavor"

We know ( from the Clementine Bistatic Radar experiment) that there IS water in those craters- the question is how much. The best way to find out would be to go there and have someone look.


bb,
Data Manager, Clementine

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Skivee
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 05:31 PM

This is a scientific experiment aimed at furthering manned Lunar missions.. The details have been available for months. It is not new news. Go to spaceweather.com for past articles and links to sites for continuing live coverage during the impacts. The experiment may or might not be successful, but in no case is it a test of weapons.
The plume thrown up by the impacts might be visable from Earth, but only if you have a telescope capable of at least 500x magnification.

The craters have been chosen carefully for maximum potential of finding water. Viable outposts at the lunar poles would be a vital step in humans moving out into space. Since we seem to be incapable of reducing our population this has to be done if there is any chance of avoiding the eventual destruction of the huamn race as we outgrow our home world. (6.8 billion and counting.)

The impacts will not change how the moon looks in the least. In fact, they are laughable small compared to the emormous rocks that changed to moon into our familiar ance scarred co-planet.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 05:49 PM

I am aware of that, BB. Water in some usable quantity was what I was referring to.

Same with Mars. Evidence of a great deal of water in the past. The question is, how about now? (Again, in quantity, not nust traces.)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Skivee
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 06:12 PM

Don There is a huge supply of water on Mars. The polar caps have lots.
There seems to also be a fair amount buried under the martian surface at areas surprisingly far from the poles. On the other hand, the low air pressure, reduced sunlight for electrical power, and lack of a strong magnetic field may give explorers many of the disadvantages of a lunar base, but with few of the advantages one might expect from a larger planet.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 06:15 PM

So, wouldn't it be a great jobs program, and lift the economy, if we went back to the Moon, on a more permanant basis?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 06:43 PM

A projectile launched from space would hit the earth with a force exceeding many atomic bombs with no fallout to contend with.

If it was big enough. It can't have any more energy on impact than was put into it getting it up there in the first place - which means, no more energy than was in the rocket fuel that lifted it. Nobody's burnt more than a few hundred tons of fuel in a space launch yet, which makes a very small atomic bomb.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 06:58 PM

Wrong. It all depends on where in the gravity well it originates. A rock dropped from the moon would make one hell of a bang- all kinetic, even if it left lunar orbit with a very low velocity.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:26 PM

BB is absolutely correct, on TV they talked about even a small object hitting the earth at the velocity from space 28,600 mph generates more energy than most A bombs ... The one that made meteor crater in NM I guess was   54 yards but created a huge impact crater and destruction for miles and most of it evaporated before hitting because it burned in the atmosphere

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:31 PM

Mass x (velocity squared)



Think about dropping a penny from a tall building. No force, just letting go, but it will put a major hole in the concrete sidewalk.

Now thing about one dropped from a building as tall as the Moon's orbit...

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:39 PM

How much is does this rocket bomb or projectile or whatever you call it costing?

For some reason this song comes to mind ...

Rockets, moon shots
Spend it on the have-nots
Money, we make it
Before we see it, you take it
   
Oh, make me wanna holler, the way they do my life
Yeah, make me wanna holler, the way they do my life


Inflation, no chance
To increase finance
Bills pile up sky-high
Send that boy off to die
Oh, make me wanna holler, the way they do my life
Yeah, make me wanna holler, the way they do my life


Hangups, letdowns
Bad breaks, setbacks
Natural fact is
Brother, I can't pay my taxes
Make me wanna holler and throw up both my hands
Yeah, they make me wanna holler and throw up both my hands


Crime is increasing
Trigger-happy policing
Panic is spreading
God knows where we're headed

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:40 PM

To go to the moon, all the money is spent back here, on the hardware and research. A better use than giving it to banks or brokers...

And a lot more jobs!

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:42 PM

Oh that's really great.it'l spoil the cheese !!!

How on earth(?) can one nation decide upon a unilateral declaration to bomb another orbiting body? When are we going to learn, one earth, one peoples and start to work together?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:45 PM

There have been several impacts on the moon, by several different nations. I think it was the USSR that did it first.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:48 PM

"And a lot more jobs! "

but still the debate goes on about the high cost of implementing national Health Care.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM

The Apollo program contributed more to medical technology ( and technology in general) than WW II. Think plastics (Teflon), composites, computers, transistors, all the cell phones/satellite communications systems, telemetry, etc.

Not to mention Tang!

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Alice
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM

The words "bomb" and "bombing" have blown this all out of proportion so to speak. This is a probe to analyze moisture on the moon.

It is an advancement of space science, like what other countries have done, as mentioned before.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Skivee
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:54 PM

Sorry Old Dude, BBis only partially correct, not absolutely correct.
The booster and impacter are droping from a low Lunar orbital speed, not dropping directly into the lunar gravity well. Speaking VERY broadly, the average orbital speed at 100 miles above the moon is about 4,000. Lower orbits would be SLIGHTLY faster, but still in that general range. I wouldn't want to be standing in the crater when those things impacted, but in no case will they release anything like the energy of an atomic bomb. Many boosters, and research vehicles have hit the moon over the course of various space programs. None have produced an atomic level of energy release. Read the article at spaceweather.com to see how much of a bang they expect.
The penny would have to be dropped from a building with no atmosphere outside of it. Here on Earth it would reach terminal velocity quickly as air resistance balanced the attraction of gravity; and though painful if it hit someone, would neither dig a hole through a person nor blast a hole in the concrete sidewalk.
I don't remember the exact figure, but The Mythbusters came up with a terminal velocity for a penny in the tens of mph vs. tens of thousands of mph. If the penny was reformed into a sphere, the speed would be greater, but never enough to smash a sidewalk.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:54 PM

There appears to be something like an aquifer beneath the surface of Mars. Ice found on the floor of at least two craters so far (Phoenix lander). As to the polar caps, they are a mixture of water ice and frozen carbon dioxide ("dry ice"), proportions still up for speculation and being analysed (fairly detailed article, Astronomy magazine, September 16, 2009).

The question, once again, is "in usable quantities?"

Looks promising, but I wouldn't send out colonists for a few weeks yet. . . .

(Unless I could nominate who they should be.)

Don Firth

P. S. Some years back, an old drinking buddy from the early 1960s named Jerry Pournelle (I didn't even know he was interested in writing science fiction at the time, but I did know that he had a wall full of degrees in various physical sciences) became a science advisor to Pres. Reagan. He worked out a weapons system for "Star Wars" (SDI, not the movies) that consisted of dropping heavy metal rods from orbit. Hit like a meteor strike, no explosives necessary. Do some real damage to bunkers, underground facilities, etc.

Can't remember now what he called it, but you might be able to google something about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:56 PM

BTW, the present cost for the Ares program ( back to the moon ) is something like 10 billion over 10 years- as compared to the 10 TRILLION that health care is supposed to cost. Just a factor of 1000 less.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 07:57 PM

"This is a probe to analyze moisture on the moon."

so we can add Tang to it ... hmmm ... one big bottling plant on the moon.

I think there are more important issues back on earth that deserve more attention in regards to research.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: heric
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 08:20 PM

Moon juice I'd buy it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 08:24 PM

I don't know ... it'll have to have one hell of a wowzie zowzie label on it before I'd buy it!

Wal*Mart would definately get the first rights in selling this Moon Juice.

Moon Juice ... good one heric.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Alice
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 08:31 PM

um, like Moonshine?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 08:36 PM

Very good Alice!   :)

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 08:59 PM

BB, your quote of the cost of health care is a totally spurious bit of Fox News Service sheepdip and a subject for another thread.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 09:06 PM

I know it is way low, but if you have anything more accurate I will be glad to look at the source.



But the cost of a return to the moon is obviously less than the waste in today's care that Obama is depending on. LOTS less.

And it will provide a lot more jobs.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Beer
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 09:18 PM

I can visualize the man in the moon now crying.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 09:32 PM

Lost?

Other thread, Bruce.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 12:10 AM

Yeah, other thread, Bruce. ;-)

I find it hard to resist mentioning though, just in passing, that Canada spends only 10% of its yearly budget on providing universal single payer health care for ALL our citizens...while the USA spends 17% of its yearly budget providing a hodge podge of public and private health care for some of its citizens...but not for all of them by any means. Americans also pay more per capita for government health care...a LOT more...than Canadians do.

The money is clearly being spent far less efficiently in the USA, and with far less effect...and one wonders who benefits from such an arrangement? Certainly the general public does not! I'd be guessing that some rich private entities such as health insurance companies and Big Pharma benefit from it. What's your guess?

****

Very interesting stuff here about the possible sources of water on Mars and the Moon, I must say...specially Mars.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 06:32 PM

I have personally seen a gigantic impact on our moon. The object spewed material out as far as a third of the diameter of the moon followed by a secondary mush smaller splash of debris. The impact was at the 10 o clock location and was apparently just barely behind the horizon.
I occured on May 5 1975

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 07:35 PM

Were there any reports about it in the news or in science journals at the time, Donuel? Or any you heard of?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 08:07 PM

Maybe Bullshit-El will send us his son in return. And we'll have a new superhero. He'll be androgenous and hermaphroditic and settle this gay marriage debate once and for all.

... of course SOME people will assume I am bashing [pick your term]-gendered people, and be wrong, wrong, wrong.....

But it's been a long week and that's as much sense as I can apply to my thought process at the moment, so SUE ME. :~)

Free speech, innit FUN?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: heric
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 10:11 PM

There's film footage of the Diamond Moon event Donuel's talking about.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 10:59 PM

That appears to be a Pink Floyd concert bootleg...

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: heric
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 11:04 PM

It's visible at 0:38 - 1:27 on there

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: number 6
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 11:24 PM

the real footage that donuel was talking about

It's incredibly interesting !

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Gweltas
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:39 AM

Facinating ! I didn't know this film existed. Thanks for posting the link, Bill.
XX

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:56 AM

Perhaps the man in the moon didn't vote for Obama...

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:59 AM

....better yet...maybe this is part of the moon's $500 billion stimulus package....

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: gnu
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 05:21 AM

So?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: sing4peace
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 07:59 AM

Blue Moon...:-(

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: olddude
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 08:09 AM

Dang, looked out and yup. now the moon looks just like a crispy cream donut with a hole in the center .... what will these advertising guys think of next

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 08:35 AM

Video. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8299118.stm

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 09:24 AM

Well, no more moon... Sad!

Now we have to revise all those old love songs, and reflect on how romantic the new ring of fragments around the earth looks at night.

Now what rhymes with "ring."

Let's have a fling as we watch the ring?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 10:25 AM

They seem to have missed?

Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: meself
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 01:22 PM

Man, I bet that moon's sorry it ever messed with the USA!

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 01:27 PM

(I have to thank Bill for that extraordinary clip as well. 1902.)

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:23 PM

As I thought, there was nothing to see unless one had access to the Hawai'i observatories or the like, and even those didn't get a usable picture.
Analysis of data from the instruments on the second rocket probably will take a while before the question is answered; is there sufficient water to maintain a scientific station?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Skivee
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:27 PM

Dateline Oct.(,2009 Ames Iowa) LCROSS Impact drives Moon into new North-South Orbit.Scientists say,"Whoops, my bad". Tidal changes, stress fractures on Earth surface proected to wipe out life on planet from tectonic activity, mega-storms, mega-floods,mega-famines, mega-insects, and mega-chickens.

Ames Research Center spokesman, Dr. Aldo Biggworduser, apologized for the lack of pretty pictures that various media outlets had expected but suggested the problem is scientifically interesting in that even unexpected results can be informative and could result in important funding until, "You know, we all die, and stuff. On the other hand it does kinda put that whole "we're going to be hit by a metoer in 2039 thing into perspective." He then went on to rob a local bank while naked, rape his Weber barbaque, and drive his car into a cornfield at high speed.

A representative of the Worldwide Tick and Cockroach Union commented during its weekly guest spot on Fox News that "We sorta expected this whole 'death to humans' thing would involve a lot more radiation, but we'll take what we can get." Noted author and commentator Sean Hannity went farther in proclaiming the 14 year program's unexpected cullmination as,"Yet another example of the failed Obama Administration socialist-antiAmerican-wrong-thinking-my sweet-little-old-grandmother-killing-guntaking-away-tradition-hating-stupid-stupidhead-Liberal-stupidhead stupids doing..." then began crying, frothing at the mouth, wrapped himself in an enormous American flag and rushed around the studio biting camera equipment. Regular viwers recognized this as his normal closing remarks.
NASA is expected to manufacture videos shortly showing that the Centaur booster casing actually riccochayed, ah, rckichayed...dammit, riccyshayed, ...bounced off an old Soviet spy satellite, which gave it the unexpected velocity that is going to kill us all.
Oh, wait, this stuff didn't happen. Nevermind.

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: gnu
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:39 PM

So?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 05:39 PM

Little Hawk,

I was able to see it because it happened about 20 minutes prior to a full lunar eclipse. That meant that the sun was illuminating the debris with near perfect backlighting.

I heard the moon has at least 3 impacts a day but are not visible if you are looking at the moon straight on.

With the sun behind the moon yet blocked by the earth, the black night sky made a perfect backdrop to see the huge impact.


On the NY State thurway 25 years ago I saw a large burning clump moving slowly north on the horizon at sundown. The flames were virtually cartoonish with long licking flames. I had time to pull the car over and stop to get out and watch. After another minute or so it passed over the horizon to the north. I had the feeling that if it had hit the Earth we would have been in big trouble.

Compared to the speed of a meteor it was a slug yet it was several times faster than a jet plane.



So when do we get to taste moon water?

Subject: RE: BS: Bombing the Moon
From: GUEST,eric the viking
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 07:54 PM

This is a disaster and has really worried me. I've just looked out of the window to check and I can't see the moon at all? Have they blown it up to bits? What will happen to the tides? Does that explain why it is thick cloud and rain outside?