Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]


Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)

DigiTrad:
IDA LEWIS
UNION WORKER, UNION BOSS
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT TO LOOK AT ME


Related threads:
If you have Field Recordings of Barry.Finn.. (17)
Lyr Req: Barry Finn-- Do you like fresh fish? (5)
Lyr Add: Guantanamo Bay (Barry Finn) (21)
Barry Finn's ADD song (28)
A Shanty for Barry Finn (129)
A Press Room story (8)
Barry Finn's Birthday - 5th Feb. (26)
FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) (89)
Request for Barry Finn stories (7)
Lyr Add: Press Rooms Extra Voice (song for Barry) (19)
Barry Finn just found himself on U-Tube (45)
Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK July/Aug 2009 (114)
Happy Birthday Barry Finn !!! And Bassic (29)
Barry Finn off line fr awhile (27)
BS: Barry Finn ageing ? (Feb 2007) (35)
Barry Finn/Charley Noble - NYC 4/22 (36)
Happy Birthday to me (Barry Finn)(Feb 2006) (56)
Barry Finn - home from the hospital (Aug 2005) (46)
Barry Finn in hospital (July-Aug 2005) (232) (closed)
Barry Finn in California (Nov 2001) (33)
Barry Finn Five: Home Soon/Home Now (Apr 2001) (36)
Barry Finn - Four: Post Op (April 2001) (94)
Barry Finn - THREE (April 2001) (96)
Barry Finn - TWO (March 2001) (108)
Barry Finn - MORE (March 2001) (27)
Barry Finn: Organ Transplant, March, 2001 (102)
YO! Barry Finn (2)
Thank you to BARRY FINN from Zorro.. (1)


Peg 19 Oct 09 - 11:52 PM
Janie 20 Oct 09 - 12:46 AM
Genie 20 Oct 09 - 01:05 AM
Peter Kasin 20 Oct 09 - 01:44 AM
My guru always said 20 Oct 09 - 06:31 AM
GUEST,Lighter 20 Oct 09 - 11:00 AM
George Papavgeris 20 Oct 09 - 11:24 AM
GUEST,Natalie Finn 20 Oct 09 - 12:24 PM
Peg 20 Oct 09 - 01:52 PM
Janie 20 Oct 09 - 02:11 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 20 Oct 09 - 02:31 PM
GUEST,Gloucesterman 20 Oct 09 - 03:25 PM
Nancy King 20 Oct 09 - 03:30 PM
ClaireBear 20 Oct 09 - 03:47 PM
jacqui.c 20 Oct 09 - 04:06 PM
Hollowfox 20 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM
David Ingerson 20 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM
HuwG 20 Oct 09 - 07:54 PM
GUEST,rumanci 20 Oct 09 - 08:17 PM
bbc 20 Oct 09 - 09:12 PM
Gorgeous Gary 20 Oct 09 - 10:06 PM
SaltyWalt 21 Oct 09 - 02:19 AM
Bupkes 21 Oct 09 - 02:47 AM
GUEST,Justine 21 Oct 09 - 09:22 AM
Tinker 21 Oct 09 - 09:53 AM
Ferrara 21 Oct 09 - 12:16 PM
Paul_Schurr_PSG_NY 21 Oct 09 - 01:01 PM
VirginiaTam 21 Oct 09 - 01:11 PM
Big Mick 21 Oct 09 - 06:06 PM
stallion 21 Oct 09 - 06:23 PM
catspaw49 21 Oct 09 - 06:44 PM
GUEST,Barnacle 21 Oct 09 - 09:00 PM
Janie 21 Oct 09 - 10:10 PM
Janie 21 Oct 09 - 10:56 PM
stallion 22 Oct 09 - 02:57 AM
SINSULL 22 Oct 09 - 09:33 AM
ranger1 22 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM
KT 23 Oct 09 - 01:53 AM
Micca 23 Oct 09 - 07:16 AM
RoyH (Burl) 23 Oct 09 - 08:01 AM
GUEST 23 Oct 09 - 06:44 PM
Charley Noble 23 Oct 09 - 07:14 PM
GUEST 23 Oct 09 - 07:16 PM
Janie 23 Oct 09 - 07:40 PM
Charley Noble 24 Oct 09 - 01:12 PM
The Sandman 24 Oct 09 - 06:57 PM
semi-submersible 25 Oct 09 - 02:36 AM
GUEST,guest - Tony Frasr 25 Oct 09 - 12:00 PM
TRUBRIT 25 Oct 09 - 09:19 PM
GUEST,Roger in Baltimore 27 Oct 09 - 01:53 PM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum Child
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:













Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Peg
Date: 19 Oct 09 - 11:52 PM

I don't use my Mudcat mail that much; just went in to check it and the last message in there is from Barry, a response to a "Happy Yule" note I sent him last December...

"Happy Yule to you too Peg
So I've been to maybe 2 sessions, where've you been. Let me know when you next plan to be there & I'll give extra effort to get there.
Have a good upcoming year
All my best
Barry

It'll be good to see & hear you again"

Ah, my friend, what I would give for that to happen.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 12:46 AM

Barry seemed to me to be that rare gem of a person who was comfortable in his own skin.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Genie
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 01:05 AM

OMG, Dani! Thanks for reminding me of "Fatima"!!

I remember that Mummer's play well -- and "Fatima," especially! Sooo lovely and coy! LOL

I just didn't remember "her" name till you reminded us.

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 01:44 AM

This is just too sad. I first met Barry at a singing session in an upstairs room at a Boston pub in '98 or '99, which Barry told me about after Riggy introduced me to him through email. He sang "London Julie," which was new to me, and I was really taken by the soul he put into it. We spent some time talking, singing, having dinner on one of his forays to the SF Bay Area, and he always had such interesting and pointed things to say about singing and the music scene, such as his dislike of singing sessions revolving around RUS, which he called "Rise Up Screaming." He was a storehouse of West Indies and African American work songs. In 2001 he participated in a festival workshop at SF Maritime National Historical Park on "Chanteys cousins: Work songs from ashore," and, as he had done so many times, just enthralled the audience with the power and soul of his singing. With his permission, I named a newsletter from SF Maritime after his CD; "Fathom This!" We had just emailed each other about a week and a half ago, about Ken Schatz joining him and Neil, and about possibly coming to SF next year. I got to see him rarely, but I will miss him. He was a great guy.

What a tremendous influence he was on chantey singing. Go to a festival or chantey sing, and you will most likely hear "I learned this one from Barry Finn."

Chanteyranger


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: My guru always said
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 06:31 AM

So good to see and read these memories here! Our 'brief encounter' with Barry and Justine just a few weeks ago gave us glimpse of how special Barry was and I just wish that we'd been able to know him longer. During our visit there were many times when I had questions to ask Barry about his songs and his life, and like others I'd thought we had plenty of time to catch up and cement our friendship. I, too, feel priviliged to have known him, even for such a brief time. My thoughts are with his family and all the friends he made through his life.
Hil


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 11:00 AM

Very sad news. I knew Barry Finn only from his performances on YouTube. They are artistically right, and done with great spirit.

He helped keep shanty-singing alive.

I add my condolences to the others here.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 11:24 AM

I've been away in the Netherlands for the scattering of the ashes of our friend Johnny Collins and return to find this... I am stunned.

Barry was indeed a treasure and I will miss him. My condolences to those close to him.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,Natalie Finn
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 12:24 PM

Thank you all for posting. Not to relive the trauma and retell a sad tale, however... I took Barry (my dad) into the hospital on Wednesday. Before he left he took a shower, ate a popsicle, prepared a glass of ginger ale, and lastly, he posted that he wasn't feeling well and would not be able to make whichever music event he was planning to attend. He described "flue-like symptoms" but I didn't have the heart to correct him this time. He would have me read his posts as a spell-check/grammar-check.
When Justine saw him in the hospital, he asked her to have me update his facebook page and keep you guys posted that he would be out soon and singing as soon as possible. He had print outs of songs he was learning in his pocket to take with him.

He went peacefully with no physical suffering.

This is the first I have been on this site and was glad to see so many posts about my father. I've met some of you at NEFFA, Old Songs, The Press Room, and many more festivals/sessions/parties I was "dragged" to as a kid and later, unexpectedly, came to enjoy.
The posted lyrics are very appreciated. I cried (for the millionth time of course) at "Shiver Me Timbers". It is one of my personal favorite songs partly because it's beautiful and partly because it has always reminded me of my dad. "You Wouldn't Know It To Look At Me" is another that brings tears to my eyes... and I never cry! (Unlike Barry who apparently cried at his own wedding... I always thought the crying was a recent development due to medication. Don't let that fool you)
The whole community of music always meant so much to him and we as a family recognize your names because he was always talking about another great musician he had met or finally had a chance to meet. The wake and the funeral both ended with a song, of course. It was the first time in my life that someone stood up to sing and it wasn't my father. I listened for his voice in the crowd outside the church and it was the first time I realized that he wouldn't be back... we all know he wouldn't willingly pass up an opportunity to stand up and sing.

At the funeral a friend of mine had mentioned that he just always seemed so happy. Obviously it's different living with someone, except Barry. He was the same all the time. Happy and full of energy. The only time he didn't sing was at the dinner table, and that was only because it was a mostly well respected rule in the Finn household.
Finally reading these and the facebook posts brings a smile to my face (between the tears of course)and I am grateful to have so many people offer such kind words. It makes everyday a little less difficult.

Thank you again for your kinds words, thoughts, and prayers.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Peg
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 01:52 PM

Natalie, thank you so much for your heartfelt words. How good to know that living with Barry at home was every bit as enjoyable as hanging out with him in his leisure moments. My sympathies to you, your brother, Justine and your other family members who have had to say goodbye to this great man. He'll live on in many hearts, and his songs will be remembered with joy.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 02:11 PM

I echo what Peg said, Natalie. Thank you, and my heartfelt sympathy.

Janie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 02:31 PM

Hello, Natalie, and thanks so much for posting. I remember meeting you at your house many years ago, when your dad hosted one of the first Mudcat gatherings (with surprise guest Joe Offer!). I was happy to meet you all, and to share with your mom and dad so many stories- I have a son with "issues" like your brother, and it felt as though "You wouldn't know it to look at me" was written for my Dylan.
That wasn't our only connection, and I so valued the few times we were able to sing together or share our lives.
Go well, Barry. And to the Finn family remember:
Love never dies.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,Gloucesterman
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 03:25 PM

Natalie,
Thank you for your post. I was the guy up on the wall leading Seaman's Hymn outside the church. I felt it necessary to send him off with that particular song. I hope I wasn't being presumptuous. Barry was a treasure to the sea music community and he will be sorely missed.
Blessings on you and your family
David Coffin


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Nancy King
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 03:30 PM

Natalie, thanks so much for your post. I guess you can tell that there are lots of folks out there who cared a great deal about your Dad. I met your Mom only a couple of times, and I don't think I ever met you, but I loved your Dad very much. I only saw him once or twice a year at music gatherings, but I considered him one of my very dearest friends. He was just that kind of guy -- kind, generous, smart, fun, supportive, and of course, talented. I've been thinking of him constantly since I heard the awful news, and I know I'll remember him always.

Nancy King


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: ClaireBear
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 03:47 PM

Natalie, thank you for that account and for posting to our thread. Like so many others I met Barry only a few times but counted him among my dearest friends. Although I could not get there to see him off -- having just blown my travel budget on the Getaway where, thanks to whatever gods there be, I saw your father one last time -- from far-off California I send your family strength and affection now.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 04:06 PM

Thank you Natalie - we were unable to get to Barry's funeral but I was thinking about him and his family on Monday.

Your dad was one of the best. Always 'up' and so full of life and energy. It didn't matter who you were, Barry had time for you. He will live on in many hearts. I always looked forward to any gathering at which Barry would be and particularly enjoyed spending some time with him and Ken last year in the UK, at Scarborough.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Hollowfox
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM

Thank you, Natalie, for letting us know. I only met him a couple of times at Old Songs, after the organ transplant. I was amazed that he was there so soon after something like that, and with so much energy. I wish we'd been able to visit a bit more, but I'm happy to have just met him. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and the rest of your family.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: David Ingerson
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM

I count myself lucky to have met Barry less than three weeks ago at the Getaway. It was a great pleasure to share a few songs with him in the short time that we were together. What a joy to hear him sing! When rafters needed ringing he was the one for the job.

What a shock to find that he's gone so suddenly. I am saddened beyond words.

David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: HuwG
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 07:54 PM

Very sad to hear of his loss.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,rumanci
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 08:17 PM

My deepest condolences to his family and friends. I enjoyed so much hearing him sing at The Getaway a few years back. THAT'S how shanties should be sung !   I know the qualities of the man himself meant so much to so many mutual friends and how much he'll be rightly missed by so many people and I'm very glad I met and read him and heard him for myself to know why.

rum


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: bbc
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 09:12 PM

Natalie,

What a pleasure to hear from you, even at this sad time. As you can tell, your dad was well-loved. I didn't see him in person very often, but I've known him many years through Mudcat. For many of us, we have made true friends through this community & I surely feel that way about your dad. We exchanged notes, I've prayed for him & your family at various times, &, when we've had the chance to meet in person, we hugged. I'm pretty sure he introduced me to your mom, one year at the Old Songs Festival in Albany. The Internet has given a new dimension to friendship. Your dad will be sorely missed, but never forgotten! Love to you, your mom, & your brother.

Barbara Carr


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 10:06 PM

Finally getting around to posting. I didn't know Barry as well as many of the folks here, despite seeing him at several Getaways. But I always enjoyed listening to him belt out a song. I'm saddened to hear of his passing and send hugs and condolences to all his friends and family.

-- Gary


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: SaltyWalt
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 02:19 AM

It took me three hours to read all these postings last night.

Everytime I went to post, someone wrote something so incredible that I said "well, THAT caps it doesn't it."
Then more people who knew Barry showed up.
And more.

I wanted to write something. I wanted to offer condolances.
Especially to the family left behind.
Spouse, children, even singing partner Neil.

A lot of it has been said.
Some of the most amazing bits were not repeated. So look for them.

I noticed something, and it got me thinking.
I knew Barry from Mystic and Chantey sings on the East Coast. He lived there exclusively in my mind. But some of the most incredible entries I noticed were from friends of mine that I almost never see at Mystic, who In my mind exist almost exclusively with me in SF.

It reminds me of how much I never knew about him, and how much I wanted to know him better. How much I could've learned from him.

It got me to reflect on that limited relationship.

I remember how much his "unorthodox" style of singing threw me. How stragely brash for one so sweet he seemed. How opinionated he sounded when schooling someone on a songs origin (It put me off at first). And how hartfelt, and sincere would be his retraction if he found he mispoke. (It won me back).

I think we've all said something (at one time or another) parroting a pet theory about a song or our own personal musings as fact. Some are tentative, and offer caveat while doing it, some sin boldly and never look back (a lot), and only a very few would go out of their way to attempt to retract an incorrect utterence for the sake of artistic integrity. No one louder than Barry.

What a gift to have given his children . What a legacy for all of us to aspire to share in.

What a force in this forum.
What a unique voice.
Silenced.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Bupkes
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 02:47 AM

Walt Whitman would have loved Barry and his singing. For my own consolation, let me write out some lines from the end of Song of Myself, sharing imagining Barry's voice as the great Narrator:

I too am not a bit tamed . . . . I too am untranslatable,
I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world.
É
I depart as air . . . . I shake my white locks at the runaway sun,
I effuse my flesh in the eddies and drift it in lacy jags.

I bequeath myself to the dirt to grow from the grass I love,
If you want me again look for me under your bootsoles.

You will hardly know who I am or what I mean,
But I shall be good health to you nevertheless,
and filter and fibre your blood.

Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged,
Missing me one place search another,
I stop some where waiting for you.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,Justine
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 09:22 AM

Dear friends of Barry - many of you I know, many only recognize by name or by the stories Barry told about you. The tributes are a gift that will keep Barry's spirit alive for me, Natalie, and Gabe. I cannot thank you enough. Barry belonged to all of us and he made sure there was always enough to go around. I still can't fathom how he fit in all the things remembered above. To us at home, it seemed he was always here. And thank you for sharing the burden of losing him with us. My heart is aching for my Barry.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Tinker
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 09:53 AM

I got to spend some amazing hours with BArry headed to and from Getaway this year. When both cars broke down and the check for government contract work was moving with creeping breaucratic speed, Barry didn't seem to think twice about stopping on the Jersey turnpike at 1 in the morning to pick me up on his way south.

He had just left his 40th High School reunion and regalled me with stories and remembrances through the night. He borrowed Natalile's GPS and really wasn't sure how it worked, but trusted it to get us through the night --- even when it sent us into Baltimore way before either of our memories felt it should.

So at 4 in the morning we snaked through the streets of Baltimore, with no clue where or why this was going to get us to West River. Finally at a light a cruiser pulled up next to us and Barry immediately put my window down -- "Ask him if this I'll get us to West River"   The cop was clueless, but two turns later we were back on the highway. ( The GPS wanted to avoid the tunnel toll) Barry never missed a beat or broke a sweat. He had no question the road would take us where we needed to be. Full steam ahead. No need for tight control.

We talked kids ( and pride) and the fun he's had over the last year as Finn and Haddie expanded and then added Ken. I've never met Neil, but know Ken and yeah, he loved singing with you both.

I've been going through old Getaway tape and trying to figure out how to reformat. There are bits of "piss" between him and Mick, The 2 penny whore song with MZ Mary

Kathy


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 12:16 PM

Justine, I have begun to realize something. Since only a few of us could get to New Hampshire, sharing our grief here is our way of holding a wake for Barry. These memories bring smiles, they bring tears; they help us realize the true dimensions of a friend we saw only in a few of his many aspects and dimensions; they put images of Barry even more firmly in our hearts, to hold there forever.

Bill and I send our deepest sympathy to you and your family for your loss of a dear and wonderful husband and father. You are so much in our thoughts now. I keep remembering the glow on Barry's face whenever he spoke of you, Natalie or Gabriel.

Rita


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Paul_Schurr_PSG_NY
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 01:01 PM

I've deleted the sad stuff I've written, and I leave this story as a hug for Justine and a smile for Barry's son and daughter.

Last June at Mystic, not much before sunrise, our small group slipped from shanties and maritime songs into doo wop. We gleefully killed off the dead teenagers. We lost our teen loves. We waked up little Suzy. We dreamed. Any lyric that John Roberts didn't have, Barry could supply. And the other way around too. We all took our turns, but the two of them were as happy as two people can be. There was a glow about them. All of us sang and laughed, laughed and sang. Singing with Barry that night and all the other nights and afternoons, in halls and on sidewalks, from Mystic to Portsmouth... it was a privilege that will fill my heart and soul for many years to come. His legacy is rich with harmonies and warm with smiles. His is a life to celebrate. Thank you, Barry, for being my friend.

Paul


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 01:11 PM

Every day I come into the thread, read a little more to weep a little and laugh a little. To feel a bit sad for what I missed in not meeting this man in real life. And then grateful for what people share and the links to other threads.

All the near and dear ones to Barry are still in my thoughts.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 06:06 PM

There is a custom of looking for the voice of those that got away in those left behind. That will not be a problem with our Barry. All of us that loved him, and that is virtually anyone who ever met him, will see to that. But none have honored that tradition more than Natalie and Justine.

Natalie, you are the product of two amazing people. And you wear it well, my dear. Your comments about your Da left me happy and sad all at the same time. I am proud to "know" you, and I hear your father's voice in you.

Justine, after reading your notes for Barry's eulogy, and then the post above, you have reduced me to tears of gratitude that our friend had you in his life. You are a remarkable woman, and fully deserving of the love that Barry gave you. And he is a lucky man to have trod the path with you.

Hugs to each of you,

Mick Lane


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: stallion
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 06:23 PM

i was copied in to an exchange of e-mails twixt Charley Noble and Martin Bartlett, it had me in stitches cos I was there had almost forgotten the incidents, anyway I wouyld like to share Martins memories with you all.............

> A moving song, Charlie. What is the tune?
>
> Guess what I've been singing since I heard the sad news?
> ......."...Bold Riley-O has gone away" !
>
> I've several fond memories of Barry, my favourite being when our early departure from the post-Mystic party in New Maldon (?) was delayed by at least five minutes, as, like the Ancient Mariner, he pinned us up against the veranda railing to regale us with a ballad he had just written concerning an event that took place during the second world war. Do you know it? I would love to learn it in his memory. The other was a sotte voce comment by, I think, one of the Johnson Girls. I was standing near the entrance to the late night shanty sing when, from the other end of the room, that unmistakable rasping voice rent the air with, as I remember, appropriately rough language. The response from my right was, "Oh, Christ!". I can think of no other singer capable of evoking instant blasphemy!
>
> Kind Regards
> Martin Bartlett


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 06:44 PM

Justine and Natalie ......It was wonderful to hear from you both.

As you can see many here too are grieving and at least to some degree sharing your loss. I believe that as time passes more will be added to this thread.....a lot more. Its not uncommon for that to happen here as special thoughts come to this strange collection of folks known as The Mudcat Cafe. I would never begin to think of infringing on your private life, but we invite you to do the same. Barry was indeed much loved and respected here and these threads often help fill the holes left in our hearts.

But see, I really don't believe great friends can leave a hole in your heart because it quickly fills with memories and stories and thoughts and laughter that was a part of them when they were with us. Maybe that's all out hearts really are.......a repository of the best reminiscences of those wonderful friends.

Please come back and see us sometimes.....anytime......


Pat (Spaw)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,Barnacle
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 09:00 PM

Justine, I don't think we ever met but wanted to make sure you knew how much you are in our hearts and minds and prayers; how heartsick and filled with disbelief we were when we heard the news; how loved and respected Barry was for the musician and person he was.

Hugs

Barnacle -- Tim Reilly, Jon Cannon, Mary Audette, and Everett Brown.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Janie
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 10:10 PM

I'm struggling to put something into words, if you will bear with me. Feel free to skip to the next post if your eyes glaze.

Like 'Spaw said, we are real people in real community here. I knew Barry from Mudcat and the Getaways. I have been somewhat stunned at the level of loss and grief I feel, as I would not count myself as a close or intimate friend. In spite of that, like so many others here, I held him very dear, thought of him often with great affection, and when I would see him, it was like getting together with some one I had known all my life, even though we actually knew virtually nothing of one another's life histories or experiences. It is clear many, many among us experienced Barry in the same way.

I think that is because what Barry offered to one and all was his authentic self, without front, facade or mask. So to know him at all was know who it was there in front of you. No games. No airs. No pretense. No desire to impress or to be impressed.

Barry was one of the most real people ever I have met. And he was real in every situation and circumstance. Whether he had known you for years, or whether he just met you. Whether he was in cyberspace on a thread, pm or e-mail, or whether it was 3-D. Few, if any, of us posting here would know Barry if we did not have that common interest in music. But I surmise that if Barry had never sung a note, or was a lousy singer who loved the music anyway, most of us would be saying what we are saying, and grieving as we are grieving because of who he was. Not because of what he did.

Several people have talked about a sense of his voice joining in. LEJ put it in chanty form. Last night, out singing to the stars like I do, one song after another that Barry sang came up - usually just the choruses - and there was this sense of Barry's voice there - as others have noted. What a great heart and soul that scrappy fellow had - and still has. It shined through his music. He was a great performer, but he wasn't performing. The music didn't make the man. The man made the music. (It may be, though I don't know, that music provided a pathway in the direction of his authentic self.) That is one powerful soulheart that lives in the heart of so many other diverse people.
.

Barry clearly touched, influenced, and affected many, many people through his authenticity and personhood, often through the vehicle of his music. I don't think he was on a mission to do so. That is simply the reality.

When I said in a much earlier post that he lives on in the hearts and minds of many, I meant that quite literally. He has influenced so very many people. So we are changed from having known him. And those we influence will also be changed by our own changes. I call that immortality.

Justine, you were at the center of his life, as were Natalie and Gabe. I suspect you are made of the same stuff else the two of you would not have been together 23 years. Thank you for sharing him with us. The fact that there was enough of him to go so generously around suggests you have the same great heart and authenticity, and that his family was an everflowing fountain of sustenance to him.   I do not want to even imagine the hole in your own heart torn by the loss of the physical reality of Barry. May these many memories and thoughts of shared loss, and especially the celebration of Barry here bring you some comfort and peace, even in the midst of your sorrow.

And maybe even a few good belly laughs.

Reading back, this is an awkward post, and I'm not sure I have succeeded in putting words to what is running through my mind and heart.

Justine, Natalie and Gabriel,

I'm not articulate enough to add my own words of comfort and condolences that others here have written, but I gladly echo them.

Blessed be.

Janie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Janie
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 10:56 PM

A correction to my last post. LEJ's song, that thread, and all the contributions regarding word, rythym and tune have really moved me. But it was Charlie Noble's adaptation of the Smith chanty that I meant to reference regarding the "presence" of Barry, as well as the assorted posts from others who sang regularly with Barry in sessions at places like the Press Room.

Janie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: stallion
Date: 22 Oct 09 - 02:57 AM

As a note to Martin's recollection on the Mystic night time shanty blast, as I remember it, the rough language was a greeting to us as we came in the door, and the comment was as much about "what have I done putting this lot together" than Barry's greeting.
The song was about a British Convoy that the Germans had warned Britain not to send and they sent it any way and it got sunk, he was going to send the words, he did sing it to Dick Miles at the back of the stage at Scarborough Seafest but I don't know if he got a copy of the words.
I also have his signature on my Mystic Tee shirt, and you may guess, suitably appropriate rough language.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Oct 09 - 09:33 AM

You put it well, Janie. Whenever Barry walked in my front door, the entire room lit up. We all knew we were in for some great music and tall tales.
Helen Schneyer's "Only Remembered" keeps going through my head along with Justine's "Never Seal".
And the picture of Barry all akimbo on the floor with a dagger of wood threatening to impale him while someone tried to explain that he had been sitting on a tea table...
I miss his beautiful blue eyes.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: ranger1
Date: 22 Oct 09 - 07:52 PM

I have so many memories of Barry that I've been trying to put into words, but haven't been able to yet. I will say now that I will miss long car journeys with him (even though his driving scared the crap out of me), because you never knew what he was going to sing next.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: KT
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 01:53 AM

I've been out of town, with no computer, and just returned. I've come to this thread several times and still feel suspended in disbelief. A few weeks ago, at the Getaway, I had the privilege of being in several sessions with Barry. I found myself absolutely captivated by him. Enchanted. I suppose everyone who's known/heard him sing, feels much the same way. I recorded a couple of the sessions and listened to them on the plane on the way home with great delight. Though I hardly knew him, I'd come to admire and respect him through this place and my brief encounters with him at Getaways.

To his family, my sincere, heartfelt, condolences. To Barry, my thanks.    KT


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Micca
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 07:16 AM

I have been trying all week to write something about Barry that didnt sound like a rehash of what went before in this thread, after all he is a "One Off" and it shouldnt be that difficult to say something nice and anodyne about him, how much we miss him and what a joy it was to know him. but it just would not come, Because what ever Barry was he was not anodyne or commonplace. So I decided to just say some of the things I enjoyed about him over the 9+ years I have "known" him (I put that in quotes because I can't really say I "Knew" him in the usual sense of spending a lot of time in his company) I realised after a while, that "what you saw was what you got" with Barry , That took a while to sink in, he really was what he appeared to be, A Real Nice Guy, with no hidden agendas and willing (if not almost anxious) to help and befriend.
He was a phenomenal Shanty singer, I dont think I've heard many that were his equal and certainly none better in the 40+ years I have been hearing shantys.
He had a wicked sense of humour, dry and restrained at times, pure hilariously irreverent and low and earthy too. I Saw much of this and learned a lot about Barry The Man on a hectic 5 hour journey back from the Getaway (with Mary and Tami) during which we exchanged "sailor yarns" and expieriences of "life at sea" and in general.
I sat with him at the Press Room almost every time I was there ( he asked me to let him know when I was visiting in advance so he could try and be there) and he was always pulling my leg gently and very supportive of my writing.
We commiserated with each other and with Crane Driver for none of us winning the songwriting contest at Scarborough (UK) but he said how could he complain to fail in such company was an honour!!
What else can I say about him, I liked and admired him as a person, I was awed by his skills and knowledge and abilities as a singer and I will, and do, miss him.
I send my condolences to his family ,Justine, Natalie and Gabe, (Of whom he always spoke to me as If I knew them )
His friends and everyone who met him will remember him with Joy and pleasure and feel better for having known him and what better memorial could a man have,or ask for.

I must down to the sea again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick is over


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 08:01 AM

I was in America when I heard this dreadful news. Only a few weeks before we had met for the first time while Barry was over her here, and became firm friends straight away. I remember how touched he was by my wifes reaction to his song about his son. We had looked forwrd to meeting again in the USA. A very sad lost. Condolences to his family from my wife and I, Rest in Peace Barry. We only knew you a short while but will never forget you.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 06:44 PM

Mike O'Leary-Johns....................
I dont "Tune in " to the Mudcat These days so I have only just recieved the news of Barry's passing.A friend of mine, Tony Fraser,
Phoned me about 30mins ago to tell me.
We met Barry for the first time in 1997 at Mystic.Became friends instantly...I would imagine that has been everyones experience ,he was that sort of Man. I loved the way he sang ; driving the songs along with such feeling.But it was a few years later again at Mystic that he blew me away ; with the song he wrote himself about his son.
I am so glad that in July of this year when he was in Wales ; he sang it for me again at a session in a Pub on the Gower Peninsular.
Since we met first he has been a Good friend.I only wish that he had made a recording of it at some time.It is a Wonderfull Song.
I cannot think of anything to say , I just find the news hard to take just as everyone else.
So I will just send my regards to his family , at this time of great loss.
One thing for sure Barry was One of the Good Guys........ Mike


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 07:14 PM

Mike-

Would this be the song by Barry that you had in mind:

"You Wouldn't Know It To Look At Me"
                   (Tune: Australian, Trad. "One Of The Has Beens")

"You're not listening to me are you deaf in both ears.
Don't you see what you've caused, have you been blind all these years.
Could you just give an answer, so I know you're not dumb.
For Christ's sake, you bird brain has a cat got your tongue"?

Chorus:
I'm as cute as any other kid, I can run, jump & shout.
You wouldn't know it to look at me, at times I can't work things out.
I'm not stupid, I'm not lazy, I try very hard.
With a little compassion I could go pretty far.

Well, school is a torture, the teasing won't quit.
My thoughts go off track and my aide has a fit.
There are some things I excel in, so much that I'm bored,
You wouldn't know it to look at me, it takes all that I'm worth.

The kids scorn & laugh at me, I don't have a friend.
You can feel my heart break, I wonder when this will end.
The mistreatment & abuse I take, it's really a crime,
But I'm told to ignore it, though it happens all of the time.

Chorus:

I know it's hard on my family, I can't change a thing.
The aunts & uncles blame it on my folks & say it's poor upbringing.
The love & affection others get all the time,
I only hear people yell at me, when I ask where is mine.

I never feel comfort, no shoulder, no hug.
My support system's gone, they' to me, was pulled out like a rug.
No one understands me, can't they just read the signs
Most choose to ignore them, it's as if they've gone blind

Chorus:

I may be mildly autistic or just plain O.C.D.
I may twitch with Tourette's, or have A.D.D.
If you see me cross my eyes, instead of my T's
You wouldn't know it to look at me that I have special needs.

Chorus:

Copyright Barry Finn

Charley Noble


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 07:16 PM

I can tell the truth now-- I always thought that Barry was the best singer we had.

We can all sing a little, but Barry was different.

This one is going to take a little time.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 07:40 PM

Guest 7:16



{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{My Best Mudcat Hug}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Oct 09 - 01:12 PM

I've just been doing some editing on the C. Fox Smith Anthology and ran across this verse in a poem called "Memories" which belongs in this thread:

"Friends . . . they go," said Murphy, "the false an' the true,
They all go at the finish, the same as the ships do;
They go like a spree that's ended or a last year's song,
But the friends a man remembers, they're his own his life long."

Notes:

From Ships and Folks, edited by Cicely Fox Smith, published by Elkin Mathews, London, UK, © 1920, p. 67.

Charley Noble


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Oct 09 - 06:57 PM

I met Barry at Scarborough sea fest last year, it was the first time we had met.
Barry was a fine singer who was also very knowledgeable, I enjoyed his company.I am saddened and shocked by this news.Dick Miles


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: semi-submersible
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 02:36 AM

Another extraordinary human being I'll never get to meet. All who knew him know what a trail he's left behind to guide us still.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,guest - Tony Frasr
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 12:00 PM

Very sad news. I can only endorse Mike O'Leary-Johns comments. Barry was a fine singer and a lovely person. I feel honoured to have known him and proud to call him a friend.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 09:19 PM

I have been putting off posting because everyone seemed to know him better and have something more special to say.

I met Barry three years ago when I went - for the first time - to the Getaway---jacqui and I drove down, and Sins and Ranger 1 drove in her car. We were late getting to Barry's -- i was following my GPS---when Sins called to see where we were she put him on the phone and he was asking me questions about where we were.......I gave him the name of roads and heard him say to Sins -- I don't know where they are - how can I not know where they are........! Esmerelda (GPS) will get us there, I said, just wait.

That night we stopped at Tink's -- after dinner out we sat down in a circle. I was still really new to this -- didn't know people just sat around and sang. The song went round the circle and came to Barry who threw his head back and sang 'Reuben Ranzo'.........I couldn't believe what I was hearing and everytime I heard him sing after that, I could never believe what I was hearing.

Barry - didn't know you as long as many folks did but was proud to know you and call you friend and will miss you.......your family should be, and obviously is, so proud of you.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Obit: Barry Finn (16 Oct 2009)
From: GUEST,Roger in Baltimore
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 01:53 PM

I will miss Barry at every Getaway of the future. He and I found a shared interest in Prison Work Songs and we bantered quite a bit on the early Mudcat. Barry had a party for Mudcatters one year at his house in Vermont, I believe. Marge and I drove up from Baltimore to attend. It was very uncharacteristic of me to drive that far to meet a bunch of people I only knew via the Internet. It was probably about 3:00 PM when we got there. Of course the party had been going on for a while by then. I grabbed a seat in the song circle between Kendall and BigChuck. I stayed until after Midnight and I think I left my seat once to take a restroom break. Marge spend some time with Justine and I met Natalie and Gabriel. I thoroughly enjoyed myself. Marge and I spent the night in a motel and headed back to Maryland.

I also had the honor of sharing a workshop on Prison Songs with Barry at the Prince William Getaway. His was the first voice I heard as I pulled up to the park. Yes, with Barry there was no holding back. He was fully involved in his music. Barry was also quite a scholar. He was well-read about the Work Songs and Sea Shanteys and the work that went with them. He had a prodigious memory.

My condolences to his family. I'm sure we will sing for him at the next Getaway.

Roger in Baltimore


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

  Share Thread:
More...

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
From:
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")


Mudcat time: 23 April 8:24 AM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 2022 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.