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Subject: Lyr Add: CHARLES AUGUSTUS From: Andrus Date: 23 Oct 09 - 12:41 AM My grandfather used to sing this song. He's gone now, and my mother has no memory of where, exactly, it came from. I'm hoping this rings a bell for someone. I've searched for it fairly extensively, and have come up with nothing... And please forgive the pathetic attempt to spell the word that is supposed to sound like "fuh-lye." If I sat here long enough to come up with a spelling I was satisfied with, I'd never get this posted. This is how I remember it: ^^ CHARLES AUGUSTUS Oh, I'll tell you now a tale Of a gay young cavalier who Not many years ago, Lived in this town right here His name was Charles Augustus And divinely he could sing And he was a clerk at a dry goods store And he wore a diamond ring. (chorus) Whack! Tilly fa-lie fa-lay Fa-lie fa-lay fa-lay whack! Tilly fa-lie fa-lay, and he wore a diamond ring. Well, he had a grand mustache His hair hung down in curls, oh! What a fellow to smash Said unsuspecting girls. Sly glances he would fling As he passed them on the street What a handsome ladies man With his elegant diamond ring (chorus) To parties he would go And with the girls he'd flirt oh! What a handsome catch (?) the girls would all assert He had plenty of cash on hand And all that sort of thing And he wore a two-forty coat And he flashed his diamond ring (chorus) At last suspicion came To his employer's mind, oh Charles Augustus' clothes Were all together too fine So watch was set on him To stop that sort of thing And they caught that handsome clerk Doing "this" with his diamond ring (chorus) Well they had him up in court Before a judge he was tried, oh Since the case was plain His guilt was not denied So they sent him for his health To the village of sing-sing To play checkers with his nose Without any diamond ring (chorus) Any bells? Anyone? Help!! And –– Andrus Click to Play |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Oct 09 - 01:07 AM Interesting song, Andrus. Any way you can send a MIDI of the tune to me for posting? -Joe- joe@mudcat.org Oh, and I didn't find anything about the song, but I found a great map of the Village of Sing Sing. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 23 Oct 09 - 01:29 AM Of course... as soon as I figure out how to make a midi file. :) but, yes. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 23 Oct 09 - 01:33 AM and very cool map of sing-sing. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Oct 09 - 02:19 PM refresh - we need more information on this song. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 23 Oct 09 - 11:33 PM Joe sicced me on transcribing your mp3. I should have it up in a day or two. Is "this" in the song accompanied by any gesture? It occurs to me that diamonds make excellent glass cutters, but other than that, I couldn't think of what he might be doing. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 24 Oct 09 - 04:11 AM Yes! The "this" is a of swipe of the hand (as in stealing from the cash drawer). And THANK you so much for the hep with the file! ––Andrus |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 24 Oct 09 - 08:15 PM refresh |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 26 Oct 09 - 05:42 PM Andrus, I haven't forgotten you, I've just been busy. Things will slow down a bit tomorrow, and I'll try to find time to transcribe the tune. It's sitting here waiting for me. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 30 Oct 09 - 02:21 PM refresh |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 30 Oct 09 - 06:58 PM Hi Andrus, I haven't forgotten you or the tune. I just spent a while transcribing it and I have the notes down (piece'a' cake) but not the time, Agggh. See this handful of hair. Time is always my undoing. Soon tho. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 31 Oct 09 - 03:13 AM I can sing it into a quicktime file and email it to you, if that would help...? Let me know! I'm sorry if it's a pain. I may be able to find someone out here who can help me... ? ––Andrus |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 31 Oct 09 - 01:30 PM I have the mp3 you sent Joe. There's nothing the matter with that file, it's just me, trying to learn about compound times. I'll take another swing at it today. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 01 Nov 09 - 06:37 PM Hi Andrus, I just posted the midi to Joe. If you want to pm me your email, I'll send you a copy too. I'm not sure I've got the time right on the last two lines of the verse, the part that goes "And he..." Give it a listen and see what you think. Blessings Barbara Oh, and I didn't put in the retard in the middle the way you do. Midis are inflexible that way. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Nov 09 - 02:20 AM Here's Barbara's MIDI: Click to PlayThanks, Barbara and Andrus! -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 02 Nov 09 - 03:37 PM THANK you Barbara! (Sounds great!) And the last line is exactly right, :) Thanks so much for your help. (You too, Joe). I wish I had more info on where it came from. I'm pretty sure that it was a childhood song of my Grandfather's-- he was born in 1924, and grew up in Hartford, CT. (Sing Sing prison was completed in 1826.) Thanks again! ––Andrus |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 03 Nov 09 - 03:20 AM Tell us more about your grandfather. What was his nationality, ethnic background, place of work, stuff like that. Where could he have learned the song? When did he sing it around you? Who else joined him? Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 04 Nov 09 - 02:46 AM I hope the right mudcatter stumbles onto this thread... Anyway... Okay, so I was a few miles off. He grew up in New Haven in the 1920s and 1930s (his father having come from the Hartford area). The Adirondacks in the summers. Of mostly English descent, I believe. (He was a Latin teacher, and his father was in the oil business. My grandfather's uncle (who I believe he spent a fair amount of time with) was the Rev. Joseph Twichell (who lived in West Hartford and was very close friends with Samuel Clemens, I have photos of them on riverboats together, and loafing around on porches, which is fun. But obviously is unrelated). I remember him singing it to my brother and I at bedtime when we were little, and in the car. (As did my mother). The family members I've asked so far have no idea where he might have picked up the song. Nobody remembers anyone in the family being particularly "musical," as they put it. And so their best guess is that it came from a nanny or an odd family friend. I'm going to keep digging around. I know that this is not much help. I do have a vinyl recording of him singing it, at age 28, which he made for my mother for her 4th birthday while he was away for awhile. (The flip side is "Workin' on the Railway :) Also, my aunt's memory of the lyrics differs slightly from mine. Here they are... and they must be more correct than mine... First of all, things rhyme where they are supposed to, and also I've spent plenty of years wondering what a "240 Coat" was. "Drove a 240 Horse" makes far more sense...LOL : Oh, I'll tell you now a tale Of a gay young cavalier who Not many years ago, Lived in this town right here His name was Charles Augustus And divinely he could sing And he was a clerk at a dry goods store And he wore a diamond ring. CHORUS: Whack! Tilly fa-lie fa-lay Fa-lie fa-lay fa-lay whack! Tilly fa-lie fa-lay, and he wore a diamond ring. He'd a handsome black moustache His hair hung down in curls, oh! What a man to smash Those unsuspecting girls. As he passed them on the street Sly glances they would fling What a handsome ladies man With his elegant diamond ring (chorus) To parties he would go And with the ladies flirt Oh, what a handsome beau the girls would all assert He had plenty of cash on hand And all that sort of thing And he drove a 240 horse And he flashed his diamond ring (chorus) Well at last suspicion came To his employer's mind That Charles Augustus' clothes Were all together too fine So a watch was set on him To prevent that sort of thing And they caught that handsome clerk Doing "this" with his diamond ring (chorus) Well they had him up in court And before a jury tried, But since the case was plain No guilt was there denied; So they sent him for his health To the village of sing-sing To play checkers with his nose Without any diamond ring (chorus) |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 04 Nov 09 - 02:50 AM my brother and me. yikes. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Barbara Date: 04 Nov 09 - 01:28 PM The horse is also in Jingle Bells -- two-forty for his speed -- guess it's good. Wonder what the measurement is of? MPH? Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 04 Nov 09 - 02:51 PM Ha. Yes... Here's what I found about that on an earlier thread What means240 as his speed : wo-forty [so called fr. its having once been a trotting record] 1: a speed of a mile in two minutes and forty seconds 2: high speed --Webster's Third New International Dictionary ––Andrus |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 04 Nov 09 - 02:52 PM my blue clicky didn't work... hm http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=86906&messages=11 |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DIAMOND RING (from Christy's Minstrels) From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 Dec 09 - 01:48 AM From Christy's Bones and Banjo Melodist by George N. Christy (New York: Dick & Fitzgerald, 1862), page 56: [Note: No chorus is indicated.] DIAMOND RING As sung by Christy's Minstrels 1. I'll sing you in my song, Of a gay young cavalier, Who once upon a time lived In this town right here. His name was Charles Augustus, And divinely he could sing He was clerk in a dry-goods store, And he wore a diamond ring. 2. He wore a black moustache His hair hung round in curls Oh, he was the fellow to smash The unsuspecting girls. He'd meet them in the street. Sly glances they would fling At the handsome ladies' man, For he wore a diamond ring. 3. To parties he would go, And with the ladies flirt. He was such a charming beau, The girls would all assert. Had plenty of cash on hand, And all that sort of thing. He drove a two-forty horse, And he sported a diamond ring. 4. Now things went on quite well. Our hero cut a dash, Like many a dandy swell, On his employer's cash. But his salary was too small These luxuries to bring. He had the run of the drawer, And he wore a diamond ring. 5. Now at last suspicion rose In his employer's mind That Charles Augustus's clothes Were altogether too fine. So a watch was set one day To stop that sort of thing, And our dry-goods clerk was caught, Coming this, with his diamond ring. 6. So our dry-goods clerk was taken, And before a court was tried; And as his case was clear, His guilt was not denied. They sent him for his health To the village of Sing Sing To play chequers with his nose Without any diamond ring. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE DIAMOND RING (Tony Pastor) From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 Dec 09 - 02:32 AM Better still, from the sheet music at The Library of Congress American Memory Collection: THE DIAMOND RING By Tony Pastor. Arranged by T. B. New York: C. H. Ditson & Co., 1877. 1. I'll sing you in my song of a gay young cavalier, Who once upon a time lived in this town right here. His name was Charles Augustus, and divinely he did sing. He was clerk in a dry-goods store, and he wore a diamond ring. Chorus: Ri tid de fa ral ri tid de fa ral ri tid de fa ral de ro. 2. He wore a black moustache. His hair hung round in curls. Oh, he was the fellow to mash the unsuspecting girls. When they met him in the street, sly glances they would fling At the handsome ladies' man, for he wore a diamond ring. 3. To parties he would go, and with the ladies flirt. He was such a charming beau, the girls would all assert. He had lots of cash on hand, and all that sort of thing. He drove a two-forty horse, and he wore a diamond ring. 4. Now things went on quite gay. Our hero cut a dash, Like many a dandy swell, with his employer's cash. His salary was too small to stand this sort of thing, But he had the run of the drawer, and he wore a diamond ring. 5. At last suspicion arose in his employer's mind That Charles Augustus's clothes were altogether too fine. A watch was set on him to stop this sort of thing, And our dry-goods clerk was caught "coming this" with his diamond ring. 6. Our gay young cavalier before a court was tried, And as his guilt was clear, of course was not denied. They sent him for his health to the village of Sing-Sing To play checkers with his nose without any diamond ring. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Charles Augustus From: Andrus Date: 04 Dec 09 - 03:48 AM WOW. I had stopped checking this thread. Thank you, Jim! Incredible. YAY!!! |
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