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Filthy Vinyl

Fred McCormick 25 Oct 09 - 05:44 AM
Stower 25 Oct 09 - 06:18 AM
gnomad 25 Oct 09 - 06:22 AM
Mr Happy 25 Oct 09 - 06:28 AM
Dave Hanson 25 Oct 09 - 06:37 AM
scouse 25 Oct 09 - 07:04 AM
Ross Campbell 25 Oct 09 - 07:30 AM
iancarterb 25 Oct 09 - 11:17 AM
GUEST 25 Oct 09 - 11:33 AM
treewind 25 Oct 09 - 11:35 AM
open mike 25 Oct 09 - 12:14 PM
michaelr 25 Oct 09 - 02:09 PM
Phil Edwards 25 Oct 09 - 04:02 PM
Deckman 25 Oct 09 - 08:43 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 25 Oct 09 - 08:53 PM
GUEST 25 Oct 09 - 09:52 PM
Effsee 26 Oct 09 - 12:32 AM
Fred McCormick 26 Oct 09 - 05:18 AM
GUEST,KP 26 Oct 09 - 09:58 AM
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Subject: Filthy Vinyl
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 05:44 AM

I've got a number of 2nd hand LPs which I need to clean up before I can digitise them. They've all got some kind of unspeakable gunge on the grooves, which does not respond at all to normal methods of washing, and which makes them virtually unplayable.

Does anyone know of a satisfactory method of getting rid of the stuff?


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Stower
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 06:18 AM

You could try some of these products. Some years ago I had the same problem, and a very soft, lint free cloth rubbed over the record with a cleaning fluid such as I have given a link for did really help. It got rid of gunge and brightened up the records, but also made remaining crackles more clear! So the next step was to feed the soundfiles through my PC and use software to remove the crackles. The end result was, on the whole, quite satisfying.

Hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: gnomad
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 06:22 AM

Diluted washing-up liquid, rinse, then rinse in distilled water seems to work for most things, but you may have tried that under "normal methods". I like a touch of meths in the final rinse.

It might help to know what treatment has not worked, and any idea you may have as to what the muck actually is.

If the discs came from a smoking household then caked-on nicotine is a likely guess, this will soften if the discs are layered (not too many deep) with slightly damp lint-free cloth such as old handkerchiefs and left to fester for a couple of days in a carrier bag to stop them drying out. Then wash as in paragraph one, but BEWARE, this method can kill the labels, so don't use it for treasured/valuable/borrowed discs, and copy down any details you need before starting.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Mr Happy
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 06:28 AM

.........might they be 'dishwasher safe' ??


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 06:37 AM

Dettol and wire brush.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: scouse
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 07:04 AM

Put the Lp's in the washin'-up Bowl with warm water and a bit of good quality washing-up liquid. Works wonders!! And wash.I've never had a problem.
As Aye,
Phil,


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 07:30 AM

Wire brush? AAAAAAAARGH!







Nylon toothbrush at the most.
Ross


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: iancarterb
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 11:17 AM

I think I sensed a tug on my leg about 'wirebrush.'


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 11:33 AM

I'm sure it would help a lot to know what the muck is.

Apart from that, the thread title looks like a great name for the right kind of band....

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: treewind
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 11:35 AM

Oops - lost cookie, sorry!
Anahata


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: open mike
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 12:14 PM

there are lots of brushes made for cleaning phonograph
records often you can use them while the record rotates
on the turn table

http://www.musicdirect.com/category/26?gclid=CLmB1cLG2J0CFSReagodv3zLsA

http://www.jr.com/discwasher/pe/DW_1006/ --- discwasher

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=record+cleaning+brush&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=3122345471&ref=pd_sl_n5csxwhhf_b

http://www.soundstagedirect.com/nitty-gritty-record-cleaners.shtml?gclid=CIvnnIbH2J0CFSUsawodxFFjrg


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: michaelr
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 02:09 PM

Back in the day of vinyl, many used isopropyl alcohol to clean their records. It has the advantage over soap that it evaporates without leaving residue of its own.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 04:02 PM

Back in the day of vinyl, many used isopropyl alcohol to clean their records.

I remember being mightily impressed when the guys at my local secondhand record shop (Lashmar's, later Beano's) wiped generations of crud from a record using cotton wool soaked in vodka. Hardly any more impurities than isopropyl alcohol, and might even be cheaper - certainly easier to find.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Deckman
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 08:43 PM

... and you can drink the leftovers!


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 08:53 PM

Repeats thread 118142:
Cleaning


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 09 - 09:52 PM

Addressed MANY times within MUDCAT

For Me...(make SURE it is not laquer/selaque/resin)

Then using a SOFT/WORN/CLEAN 100% cotten T-shirt/wash-cloth/diaper.... soak the record surface with premium vodka (do not use the cheap stuff - it has sugar in it)

Then wipe - With the direction of the Grooves - the moisture off the surface.

Isopropyle alcohol leaves a haze.. but given no other option try it.. it is better than mold.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Effsee
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 12:32 AM

I've found, (in the UK), that the Co-op's Kitchen foaming cleanser is very effective at digging the muck out the grooves. It may take a few applications, and with care, avoiding the record label, then rinsing under a warm water stream from a mixer tap, by rotating the LP, again avoiding the record label, great results may be achieved.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 05:18 AM

Thanks for the contributions folks, except for Dave Hanson's of course. When I checked thread 118142, I found he'd cracked exactly the same joke there. Is that a groovy sense of humour or a one track sense of humour?

In point of fact, I started thread 118142 because a large number of the LPs I was trying to digitise then had minute pieces of what looked like paper wedged in the grooves. I solved the problem when I took my turntable back to the store where I bought it and had them put another stylus in. Obviously, the one which came with the machine was defective.

The problem of coagulated gunge is different and isn't going to be solved by fitting another stylus. In fact this stuff looks like it would ruin every stylus on earth.

The first recourse, I think, is to buy a bottle of Isopropyl Alcohol, thanks michaelr, from Maplin and see how I get on with it.


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: GUEST,KP
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 09:58 AM

I have several hundred old LPs dating back to the 60's. I have tried a number of cleaning products over the years but the best results come from a specialist LP cleaning machine. It was designed by a guy called Keith Monks, and its used by many professional studios who still need to play LPs. Sadly they costs thousands to buy but Russ Andrews have one and can clean your records for £4 a go. Well worth it!
Russ Andrews Record Cleaning Service

KP


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Subject: RE: Filthy Vinyl
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 10:46 AM

It's an old Billy Connolly joke Fred.

Dave H


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