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Darlington to Stockton Railway

GUEST,Colin Bargery 27 Oct 09 - 08:32 AM
Young Buchan 27 Oct 09 - 10:05 AM
Banjiman 27 Oct 09 - 10:15 AM
GUEST,eric the viking 27 Oct 09 - 11:28 AM
The Sandman 27 Oct 09 - 02:30 PM
GUEST,Steve Dawes 27 Oct 09 - 04:01 PM
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GUEST,Brian Childs 27 Oct 09 - 07:38 PM
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Subject: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Colin Bargery
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 08:32 AM

Does anyone know of a broadside celebrating the opening of the Darlington to Stockton Railway ? The event drew huge crowds and was given prominent coverage in newspapers so I am suprised that I have not been able to find a broadside celebrating the event.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Young Buchan
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 10:05 AM

This is probably going to be one of the least helpful answers in Mudcat history, BUT:

I believe that Brian Childs of Darlington Folk Workshop/Darlington Mummers has a song about it.
BUT I think he wrote it himself.
BUT if he did he probably researched it well first and may know if there are any broadsides.
So if anyone mknows Brian can you please point him min the direction of this thread.

There is a small railway museum at 6 Station Rd, Darlington, DL3 01325 460532. Might be worth trying them.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Banjiman
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 10:15 AM

Dave Goulder might also be worth a try for anything train related.

Guest Colin, if you join Mudcat I can PM you his email address.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,eric the viking
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 11:28 AM

Try the archives at the NRM, York or the Stephenson locomotive society.http://www.stephensonloco.org.uk/SLSlibrary.htm


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 02:30 PM

darlington town by brian childs.not sure if its about that railway though
I think Ron Angel wrote one.
when i find his song book,i will confirm this


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Steve Dawes
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 04:01 PM

Correct, Dick! Ron Angel did indeed write one, and a very good one at that. It's called "The Iron Horse of Stockton" and the chorus goes:

"Come and see the wonderful Locomotion Number One,
The most amazing object that ever the sun shone on.
She's faster than a racehorse, stronger than a dray.
She only feeds on lumps of coal and eats a ton a day!"

Let me know if that's the sort of thing you're after and I'll post the rest of the song.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Santa
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 04:51 PM

I don't think that's what he wants but please post the rest anyway.


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Subject: ADD:They're Building a Road(Stockton & Darlington)
From: GUEST,Brian Childs
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 07:38 PM

To the best of my knowledge there are no broadsides about the S&DR. I know of no other song about the Stockton and Darlington Railway. I don't know the Ron Angel song mentioned in earlier correspomdance - I would be pleased to find details of it.

The following song is one of my own from the book 'Darlington Town' (which, despite its name, only contains a handful of songs about Darlington). If anyone wants the tune they can find it on the website bcfolk.com

THEY'RE BUILDING A ROAD (Stockton & Darlington Railway)
(Brian Childs)

1        They're building a road ...
        They're building a road
        They're building a road of iron
        A start has been made and the track has been laid
                And it runs between Stockton and Darlington

2        At Shildon it starts ...
        They're building the carts
        They're using the arts that's long since been lost
        They're shaping the parts and no matter the cost
                And it runs between Stockton and Darlington

3        The engine stands there ...
        Blows smoke in the air
        The people all come for to stand and to stare
        It's called Locomotion* and what a commotion
                It makes between Stockton and Darlington

4        They're making their way ...
        Without any delay
        The coaches begin for to swing and to sway
        The wheels turn around and they fly o'er the ground
                On the run between Stockton and Darlington

5        The wagoners say ...
        This is a black day
        They say that the price is too much for to pay
        A terrible cost, many jobs will be lost
                On the run between Stockton and Darlington

(Repeat Verse 1)

* Locomotion was the first locomotive ever to pull a passenger railway train; it was brought to Heighington Station and put on the rails there. It was then steamed to Darlington for the historic first passenger train journey (Darlington to Stockton) in 1825. Curiously, subsequent passenger trains were horse-drawn for several years; Locomotion was initially only used for the much more lucrative goods traffic (mainly coal).


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 07:47 PM

"* Locomotion was the first locomotive ever to pull a passenger railway train"

depends on the definition of passenger train - Trevithick's 'Catch-me-who-can' pulled a string of wagons containing people but it just went round and round

Interesting to hear it called Locomotion Number One - it suggests that they would either have or be anticipating a Locomotion Number Two - and marks the birth of the train spotter !


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 07:59 PM

"Darlington to Stockton Railway" just doesn't sound right. I'm sure it was Stockton to Darlinton and not the other way round when I was doing my school history lessons.

;-)

DC


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,eric the viking
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 08:41 PM

Richard Trevethick's locomotive at Pen-y-darren to Abercynon pulled 70 men passengers as well as 10 tons of iron.1804. Well before the S&D. Then in 1829 the "Rainhill trials" took place. The S&D is credited with being the 1st Passenger railway though.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,guest cameron
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 08:55 PM

"Stockton & Darlington Railway Anniversary Celebrations of the world's first steam-worked public railway" By K. Hoole. Dalesman Publishing Company Ltd, Chapham (via lancaster), North Yorkshire. 1974. 95 pages and numerous black and white plates.

Hope that helps


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Steve Dawes
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 08:41 PM

Here's Ron Angel's song in its entirety...

IRON HORSE OF STOCKTON
(Ron Angel)

Ch:        Come and see the wonderful Locomotion Number One,
The most amazing object that ever the sun shone on.
She's faster than a racehorse, stronger than a dray.
She only feeds on lumps of coal and eats a ton a day!
                
1        Well some had come to marvel and some had come to mock
        But every mother's son that day received an awful shock.
        The steam horse stood there panting, all painted bright and new
        And then she gave a mighty snort and terrified the crew.
        Well first the crowd were petrified and then they ran a mile
        But George was laughing like a drain and his brother had to smile
        To see the shawls and ribbons fly and top hats in the mud
        But then like sheep they all came back to see whatever they could.
        
2        The iron horse stood on the rails as comical as a joke
        And just like any dragon, a- breathing fire and smoke.
        Well first she hissed and then she spat and then she gave a roar
        And then she heaved and out of her the smoke began to pour.
        As off they went a cheer went up and the band began to play
        As four and thirty wagons flew along the wagon way.
        So fast they went some did lament "There'll be a tragedy,"
        But Geordie says "Now don't be daft, we'll all be back for tea!"
                        
3        Well sure enough at teatime the train it did appear
        And there behind the engine, a successful engineer.
        "We beat the Stockton stagecoach, it never had a chance!"
        He shouted to the townsfolk and they all began to dance.
        The seven big guns upon the wharf they fired a grand salute
        The band from Yarm a rousing march they then did contribute.
        Up Stockton High Street they did go and marching two by two
        To celebrate till very late with pints of local brew.

Ron wrote this song to commemorate the 150th anniversary in 1975 of the line's opening. It was performed at the celebrations organised to mark this event.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 11:10 AM

Based on no evidence whatsoever, I'll bet somebody wrote some sort of verse/song for the opening of the S&D in 1825. Probably we just haven't found it yet! After all, just about every railway opening inspired someone eg T. Baker, Liverpool and Manchester, 1830, oh dear:

At length the Steam-Chiefs with replenish'd force
To Manchester puesued their pageant course
A grand reception there secure they found
And though acclaim sill made the air resound
The blithe response was clogg'd with grief's alloy
The fate of Huskisson still chill'd their joy
The mutual greetings and the banquet o'er
The Steam-Chiefs in procession as before
With equal pomp and eight-fold gorgeous train (etc, etc).

And part of a broadside about the Oxford and Wolverhampton (the Old Worse and Worse) which is on Digitrad and elsewhere:

I will ride by steam and work by steam
By steam I'll on be hurried
And when I can a husband find
By stea I will be married

Rifum, Tifum, mirth and fun
Don't you wonder how it's done
Carriages without horses run
On the Hampton and Oxford Railway.

There is an awful lot of railway material which just hasn't made it into books and especially on to the Internet - it's shut up in local collections, in private hands, probably in the British Library, the National Railway Museum, etc. For instance there was a terrific controversy in the 1820s about "who invented the blast-pipe - George Stephenson or Timothy Hackworth?". This fuss was parodied in a hilarious pamphlet printed at the time of the 50th anniversary of the S&D in 1875, complete with Punch-style cartoons. An article appeared in the Eailway Magazine in the 1930s, a copy of which I inherited (and lost). But where's the original? In the depths of the NRM outstation at Shildon maybe, or at Forth St in Newcastle? At the bottom of a pile in a secondhand bookshop? Sorry, I'm not volunteering.....


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 11:13 AM

See above - for Glogg'd, read clogg'd, oops. Several other errors there, I should not have tried to transcribe that poem without me readin' specs.
    fixed -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 01:22 PM

There is a song about the building of the railway bridge. You can see a copy at Farne Archives - Few Verses Dedicated to the Gentlemen Freeholders of Stockton, on Their Famous Bridge; And to Their Adversaries No Small Discontent. If you click the thumbnail of the broadside you'll get a large version you can read.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Colin Bargery
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 10:17 AM

Thanks to Mick pearce, very helpful. also to Edthefolkie; do you have the rst of song about the Manchester and Liverpool ?

Regards
Colin


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:44 AM

Hi Colin, the Liverpool and Manchester item is from a long poem (100 pages!) by Thomas Baker called "The Steam-Engine". I googled him, got lots of references to Dr Who, but also this - only $200 USd...

   http://www.burnsbizarre.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=14&CLSN_2413=12321809772413e800bc2f0ccb07dc38

Baker's nearly as bad as William McGonagall but not as funny. I only have a mercifully brief extract from "The Railway Lover's Companion" by Bryan Morgan, published in 1963.

The trains are stopp'd, the MIGHTY CHIEFS OF FLAME
To quench their thirst the crystal waters claim;
While from their post the great in crowds alight
Through striving to avoid it, Huskisson
By unforseen mischance was over-run.
That stroke, alas! was death in shortest time;
Thus fell the great financier in his prime!
The fatal chance not only caused delay
But damped the joy that erst had crown'd the day...

At length the Steam-Chiefs with replenish'd force
To Manchester pursued their pageant course;
A grand reception there secure they found;
And though acclaim still made the air resound
The blithe response was clogg'd with grief's alloy
The fate of Huskisson still chill'd their joy
The mutual greetings and the banquet o'er
The Steam-Chiefs, in procession as before,
With equal popmp and eight-fold gorgeous train
Forthwith returned to Liverpool again;
Where still the eager crowds, we scarce need say
Their progress hail'd with plaudits all the way
Now in conclusion, 'twould be vain to tell
How high in Liverpool was rapture's swell!
How rich the banquet and how choice the wines
Where this in state the mighty Arthur dines!
While eloquence, like the occasion, rare
May be inferr'd, since Peel and Brougham were there!

Phew....you'd need a few large whiskies to get through the whole thing, I think. Presumably "Arthur" refers to the Duke of Wellington. I must say the term "Mighty Chiefs of Flame" for locomotives is a bit much!


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:53 AM

Sorry, missed a line out in the first verse, I think I may be put in detention after school, chiz chiz chiz.

The trains are stopp'd, the MIGHTY CHIEFS OF FLAME
To quench their thirst the crystal waters claim;
While from their post the great in crowds alight
**** When by a Line-Train in its hasty flight ****
Through striving to avoid it, Huskisson
By unforseen mischance was over-run.
That stroke, alas! was death in shortest time;
Thus fell the great financier in his prime!
The fatal chance not only caused delay
But damped the joy that erst had crown'd the day...


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:04 AM

Interesting that by 1903, steam locos clocked up over 100mph!It's great that a British loco still holds the world steam record after 70 years.


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Subject: RE: Darlington to Stockton Railway
From: GUEST,Colin Bargery
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:40 AM

Thanks very much ED. Intersting to compare that with Johhny Green's Trip to see the Manchester railway' that Roy Palmer anthologised in 'Touch on the Times'


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