Tune Add: The Cotillion

Subject: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 09:14 AM

&mHere's a super tune we've been learning lately:

X: 1
T:The Cotillion
O:england
C:Trad (Bosham Band)
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:G
|:G4d4|B2AB G2AB|c2B2A2G2|FGAF D3D|
E4F4|GFGA G2c2|B2AG A2GF|G4G4:|
|:dedc B2d2|dedc B2d2|e2d2e2f2|g4d2ef|
g2fe d2cB|e2dc B2AB|c2B2A2G2|F2EF D2D2|
E4F4|GFGA G2c2|B2AG A2GF|G4G4:|


You can hear a midi here:ABC Tune Finder: The Cotillion

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: TheSnail
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:30 AM

From a manuscript found in the West Sussex Records Office in Chichester, published, probably for the first time in about 200 years, in the Lewes Favourites Tune Book where many other excellent tunes can be found.

Around these parts, we tend to play it slow and stately.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:39 AM

Yes, the Lewes midi is really good.

I hesitated to post it here as they prefer one asks their permission first - fair enough.

Loads other great tunes on their site too!

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: TheSnail
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 11:01 AM

We put them up there to be used.

Bryan Creer

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 06:54 AM

One copy of the dots for this tune mentions the Bosham Band.

Anyone know about them, did they write it etc?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 08:31 AM

I think all we know is that they used to play it. Their manuscript in the West Sussex County Records Office in Chichester is dated 1800.

Valmai (Lewes)

WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH HIM?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 09:25 AM

'WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH HIM? '

Eh?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 10:04 AM

Good tune, and one of the first I got the hang of on my concertina - I've not got up there recently, but the 2nd-Sunday-lunchtime-of-the-month session at The Crown in Worthington, Lancashire, always plays this as their final tune.

Nice to know a bit more about it.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: TheSnail
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 10:19 AM

There is another manuscript from the same time held in the East Sussex Record Office in Lewes from the Welch Family of Bosham. A lot of the tunes from that were published in the Sussex Tune Book (Anne Loughran, Vic Gammon, 1981), now sadly out of print. Some of those tunes that are played in local sessions have made it into the Lewes Favourites. Whether the Welchs were members or rivals of the Bosham Band, I don't know.

Don't worry about Mrs Goodyear, Mr Happy. She gets like that at this time of year.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 11:22 AM

Remember, remember ....

WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH HIM?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 11:34 AM

Thanks for posting this fine tune, Mr. Happy. My band will play it this Sunday.

As I was working with the file, I realized that I don't know exactly what a cotillion is. I've seen the word all my life and accepted it as some of kind of dance. So I looked the word up.

Main Entry: co·til·lion
Function: noun
Etymology: French cotillon, literally, petticoat, from Old French, from cote coat
Date: 1728
1 : a ballroom dance for couples that resembles the quadrille
2 : an elaborate dance with frequent changing of partners carried out under the leadership of one couple at formal balls
3 : a formal ball

It's interesting that the word derives from 'petticoat.'

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Rog Peek
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 03:16 PM

The Waltz Cotillion is a set dance comprising 4 figures at the end of which all couples break away from their set and waltz for 56 bars.

It is a dance that Timmy McCarthy 'Irish set dance teacher' of Ballyvourney, Co. Cork has been known to teach at his workshops.

The figures can be found recorded in The Collins Pocket Book of Irish Dance.

Rog

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 04:20 PM

I've made a MIDI and a fancy arrangement of 'The Cotillion' and sent it to Joe. If all goes well, it will appear here for listening and downloading soon.

I abjure, deny and abrogate all copyright to the new arrangement I made.

You will notice some high notes which are not in the original. Those are for the flutes, which would be dropping too far into the basement if they merely played harmony below the melody.

It's a nice piece.

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Click to Play

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Nov 09 - 10:38 PM

thanks, Joe

When I made the MIDI, I had the top staff have a French Horn sound and the bass clef 'orchestral harp.' Somehow those choices disappeared when I saved the file.

It was niftier that way. Oh well.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 09:39 AM

I've also done a three-part arrangement of the tune which I could send to anyone interested as a .pdf or midi if you email me on valmaigoodyear (at) aol dot com.

Valmai (Lewes)

WHAT DID WE DO WITH HIM?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 09:58 AM

GUEST,leeneia,

That's brilliant!

Much nearer to the richness of harmony found when played en masse in a sesh with recorders, flutes, squeezeboxes etc

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 05:03 AM

I've also sent my version as a midi to Joe Offer, but I don't know whether it's in the correct form to be put in the Mudcat collection.

Valmai

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Marje
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 08:54 AM

Let me guess, Valmai, what did you do with him?

You told him to get take off those ridiculous new-Romantic clothes and get himself a proper suit and a haircut?

You served him with an Asbo and told him to behave himself in future?

You got his probation officer to explain to him that the MPs' expenses scandal did not merit the whole lot of them being blown up?

No?

Don't tell me you threw him on the bonfire? Have you lot never heard of global warming?

Marje

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 10:38 AM

Mr. Happy, I'm glad you like my humble effort.

Valmai, I find I can send MIDI's for the Mudcat simply by saving as MIDI and letting the computer do its own thing. I look forward to hearing your arrangement.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Sep 12 - 08:20 AM

I was at a sesh at Shrewsbury FF lasmiling & winking at mwst month & played this.

Not widely known in that area, but I noticed a woman playing concertina & smiling & winking at me all the way through - I thought??

Next day, a chap came over & asked if I'd play the Sussex Cotillon again in the evening sesh, as his wife [concertina] had been most pleased anyone knew the tune.

Seems it's known by this name in Sussex & is still popular there.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: SussexCarole
Date: 12 Sep 12 - 08:54 AM

The Cotillion is often played here at our club in South Wales - we affectionately call it 'The Tune'.

I learned the tune when I lived in Sussex from the playing of Valmai & Bryan at Lewes.

Mr Happy: I remember you asking about Cotillion when Andrew and I played it at The Bull Bay Festival a few years back

Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Cotillion
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Sep 12 - 09:03 AM

SussexCarole,

Thanks.

I got it from the Wrenbury [Nantwich]sesh some years back.

Someone from there who's also in the fiddle group my wife attends told her they picked up from the playing of the late Vicky Williams