Lancashire Legends

Subject: RE: Lancashire Legends
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 25 Sep 22 - 09:08 PM

Two decades too late for this thread.

The LafKat focused on witches.

"The Lancashire Witches"
by William Harrison Ainsworth
1848

LibriVox.org has a lovely audio version.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

It is too interesting to help midnight insomnia.

Subject: RE: Lancashire Legends
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Sep 22 - 05:45 AM

We always called the Golden Lion pub in Bolton "t'Brass Cat..."

There's a pub in Holsworthy in Devon called the Crown and Sceptre which many a local called the Crown and Septic. I won't dwell as to why, as it's not Lancs!

Subject: RE: Lancashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Sep 22 - 04:12 AM

I last posted to this more than 12 years ago! Refreshing the thread for any newcomers interested in all things Lancastrian :-)

Subject: RE: Lancashire Legends
From: MikeL2
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 09:52 AM

Hi David

Many thanks...

< "I just found out it is part of the crest of the Lord Derby (Stanley) family, of which I am one! On the wrong side of the sheets unfortunately..." >

Or is that the wrong side of the tree ??!!

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Lancashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 08:49 AM

Thanks for the title change, Joe - Next time I am looking for it I will just have to remember the title instead of my mis-spelling:-)

Maybe a tracer would be a better idea...

Cheers

DeG

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 05:32 PM

Does anyone know where the name came from ??

Go to page 19 of the deatailed book to find out Mike!

I just found out it is part of the crest of the Lord Derby (Stanley) family, of which I am one! On the wrong side of the sheets unfortunately...

DeG

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: sid
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 04:56 PM

Too kind Keith, a facsimile of the book was reprinted in 1993, again in 1999 by Llanerch Publishers (ISBN 1 897853 06 8)and appears complete. It may still be available.

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: selby
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 04:36 PM

As a Yorkshire man the only legend from over the hill i know is Sis sit sir seg I know Sid Calderbank!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 03:37 PM

Hi greg

Many thanks. I never heard it called that but it wasn't a pub I used that much.

I know that there are many pubs with the same name - some in the North West. I believe that I am right in thinking that the Oxford one was the first one??? It goes back I think to the 17th Century.

Does anyone know where the name came from ??

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 12:15 PM

MikeL2: when I lived in Oxford, the Eagle and Child was always the Bird and Baby.

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 11:25 AM

One in Whitefield, or Prestwich, as well. I think there are probably dozens, if not hundreds.

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 11:22 AM

There are at least two "Eagle and Child" pubs locally, one at Weeton and one at Wharles, although the latter is now closed and derelict. Locally being on the Fylde, west Lancashire.

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 11:04 AM

hi Jim

There is a pub called the Eagle & Child in Oxford. Right in the centre.
It used to be very popular with the students.

"Fame" arrived as it was featured in some of the episodes of Inspector Morse.

I don't remember any nicknames for the place other than " The Child" - but then again they are much posher down in Oxford...lol

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 10:55 AM

"The Buzzard and Bastard"
Never heard that Paul - must have cleaned it up for us more gentile Kirbyites.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: banjoman
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 10:41 AM

Sorry to be pedantic but when I lived near it the pub was known locally as "The Buzzard and Bastard"
Great to hear of Lancashire legends

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 09:19 AM

Nice to be reminded Dave, haven't taken it off the shelf for a long time - thanks.
There was a pub in Huyton, not far from where we lived, named after one of the legends - The Eagle and Child.
No-one knew where the name came from then, despite the somewhat lurid sign and it was irreverently referred to as The Bird and Babby.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 06:42 AM

I was looking for this the other day and only found it again by chance. Can I ask an elf to change the title to 'Lancashire Legends' instead of what I type before. Lanacashire may exist in the depths of my mind, somewhere between England and Scotland, but it doesn't make it easy to find old threads:-)

Good excuse to refresh it anyway...

DeG

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Bainbo
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 05:40 PM

This is fantastic. I've particularly enjoyed reading about the Written Stone. I grew up just a couple of miles from the farm where the stone still lies, and used to walk past it from time to time and recall the legend.

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 05:17 PM

Just re-reading and saw the Dragon of Wantley - Called to mind the Lampton Worm for some reason and then noticed that the publisher was a certain George Routledge. Any relation to our John who sings about the Lampton one? Was that from the same souce? Mind you this is after the best part of a bottle of Grenache...

:D (eG)

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 04:20 PM

I shall look that over with much initerest, esp. the rare tract on the witches!

Subject: RE: Lanacashire Legends
From: ClaireBear
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 03:53 PM

Ooooh -- a treasure! Thank you for letting us know.

Subject: Lanacashire Legends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 03:43 PM

Harland and Wilkinsons wonderful work on the traditions and folklore of Lancashire is now online here

A must for anyone interested in the past traditions of North West England.

Enjoy.

DeG