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moving to Norwich, UK

open mike 21 Dec 10 - 03:49 PM
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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 03:49 PM

thanks...actually looking for any one who might have a shop, booth or stall who might be interested in some dragons. Especially Norwich due to the upcoming festivities...


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Fidjit
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 03:54 AM

Laurel
You could ask
Colin Cater

He'd know of someone if he wasn't interested himself.

Chas


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: JHW
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 02:14 PM

I left when I was nearly 1


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:34 PM

yes the Norwich Dragon Festival is back on for 2011---in Feb.
www.heritagecity.org/projects/norwich-dragon-festival-2011.htm
would anyone know of a way to contact a shop or booth that sells any
dragon related figures or products??

I am looking to see about having a booth or finding someone who might have a booth or shop who might be interested in some dragon figures for the festival.

Certainly there is a craft faire type event as part of the festivities!!

if anyone is interested in dragons, there will soon be some specimens avaialble thru E-bay. I will post a link when they are ready.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 07:59 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/articles/2009/01/08/dragon_festival_20090108_feature.shtml

this fest. ws 3 weeks long last year..

perhaps they got burned out on putting on
such an involved event?


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 07:10 PM

i saw a big to-do about a dragon festiville in Norwich for 2009
and can not find a thing aobut it for 2010--does anyone know?

it was late jan. early feb last year...

I wonder if it is happening this year? I thought i would
hear something or find news....


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 08:34 AM

I long ago realised that some people use the pronunciation of place-names as a silly game. Some years ago I heard a lecture from two poets who waxed lyrical about the North Norfolk coast ("the quality of the light - absolutely marvellous!"). They mentioned the hamlet of Holkham, which is part of the estate of Lord Leicester (of Holkham Hall) and is not far from Wells-next-the-Sea. One poet said that it should be pronounced, "Hoke-am" whilst the other insisted on "Hook-am". After the lecture I went up to them and said, "my grandfather was born and brought up there and he always pronounced it, 'Holk-ham' - just like it's spelled." They were not too pleased!

There is also a place in West Yorkshire called Slaithwaite. If you pronounce it as "Slaith-wait" people look pityingly at you and say, "of course you know it's pronounced, "Slau-wit" (the 'slau' rhyming with 'now'). But if you pronounce it 'Slau-wit' people say, "oh, no-one pronounces it like that nowadays - that's very old-fashioned!" You can't win!


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 04:01 PM

Hey Open Mike,

I live just a couple of villages away from Rudham where I understand your relative is going to locate. I run The Wolf Folk Club on the Sandringham Estate. I also operate the Norfolk Folk Directory www.norfolkfolk.co.uk which lists all the clubs and other folk stuff in Norfolk but it is always getting out of date because folk forget to let me know etc. If your cousin would like to contact me when settled in I will gladly help her find out the stuff she's looking for. I will provide contact details if you want.

Best regards

Roger


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Fidjit
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 03:20 PM

What a question Laruel. Any Folk Clubs? Ha. Can of worms now. They are all all down in Suffolk !

Chas


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 12:30 PM

what can you tell me about internet service providers available in the area? any folk clubs?


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 06:07 PM

Hi Herga Kitty,

favourite with me and he missus is Fustyweed. You can find it near Elsing not far from Norwich. Google maps knows it's there.

There's also Grimston which is quite a nice place. And Castle Rising which is slowly falling down. Whatever you read in Norfolk don't believe a word of it. Misinformation all of it. That's why the Romans packed up and went home.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 03:04 PM

Further to Old Roger's post... Trunch really is a village in North Norfolk

Kitty


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 06:08 AM

Horwich as in Norwich, Bubbly. I had, as it happens, a cousin called Bessie Horwich who came from Manchester, which Horwich is near.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:58 AM

Well, I just KNEW that there had to be a rhyme somewhere between Norwich and porridge ! How does one pronounce Horwich,by the way ??


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:25 AM

... once went to a live perfomance of The Transports at Norwich Castle to review it for Neil Wayne's Acoustic Music magazine, & remember mentioning my car had been parked on just about the spot where Henry Cabell's father & Abe Carman would have been hanged...


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:17 AM

Norwich Gaol, incomparably sung by Martin Winsor, one of the finest tracks on Peter Bellamy's great ballad opera album The Transports, don't forget.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:14 AM

Yes, Bubbly, I recall The Book Of Dame Julian Of Norwich as one of the least loved impositions of the mediæval section of the Cambridge English Tripos all those years ago... tho not quite as dire as Ancrene Rulle, whatever the hell that meant. But I too digress. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:07 AM

... & OF COURSE THE NURSERY RHYME OF

THE MAN IN THE MOON
CAME DOWN TOO SOON
& ASKED THE WAY TO NORWICH
—   sorry - not shouting, just got inadvertently stuck on Shift —
They sent him south
Where he burned his mouth
By eating cold pease-porridge.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:07 AM

Gosh !! We both thought of that at the same time !! Spooky !


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:06 AM

Karen & I sing / play this song.Written by one Sydney Carter,it refers to one Julienne,or Julien,a monastic lady of medieval times,now appearing in the song as Julian (of the eponymous Tower).
       I don't recall any other songs about,or mentioning,Norwich,but I do remember from my Navy days that the word Norwich was much used,on the back of envelopes,by sailors writing home to their girlfriends ,as it meant " (K)nickers Off Ready When I Come Home "-----personally, I preferred " Burma for Siam", but I digress ...sorry !


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:03 AM

Another folk artefact, tho not a song, which must be remembered, is the acronym-message from the homeward-bound partner:—

N.O.R.W.I.C.H.   

= [k]Nickers Off Ready When I Come Home


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: RamblinStu
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 03:35 AM

There is a lovely song called "Bells of Norwich", I heard it performed by Sue Watson, I don't know who wrote it, or who originally sang it.

Does anyone know of other songs that mention Norwich?

Stuart Pendrill


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 12:59 PM

... which leads - ho-hum! - to Great Snoring


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 12:48 PM

"At least Norfolk don't haf any of yer Emmets".

That we dew. We got efts 'n harnsers 'n all.

Regarding funny pronunciation of place names

Hunstanton = Hunston
Snettisham = Snetsum
Ingoldisthorpe = %^&*"¬~> I can't pronounce it
Happisburgh = Hazeboro Even the folk in Norfolk think that one is a bit on the peculiar side.

- It was Queen Boudicca started that as everyone know. Baffling the Romans with misinformation so they were always lost - cleverer than switching the signposts around. One of the biggest small towns in the area is called Fakenham which was a bit of a giveaway - it must have been the first one but they got craftier after that. The names all stuck because Norfolk discovered it quite liked misinformation as you can perhaps tell.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 11:13 AM

I can only cite the people who refer to Oondull or Owndull - not being from those parts I hear both and cannot but be confused as to correctness. But at least I have a history of listening to those peeps. A stranger in town has no history of learning the ideosynchrasies.

How would you pronounce Cogenhoe? Wiki seems to have it right.
and does Rushden really have a "z" in it? Or two?

At least Norfolk don't haf any of yer Emmets.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Sheringham Boy
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 02:20 PM

The problem with North Norfolk is that it's riddled with grockles and twitchers.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Jeanie
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 01:58 PM

Yes - I'll "second", "third" etc. etc. all the favourable comments here ! I've just got back from working there a couple of nights at the Granary Theatre in Wells-next-the-Sea - had never been there before: a lovely and relatively unspoilt place. Had a glorious walk along the sea wall to the beach - looking for the seals who come in there at high tide. The light and space there are awe-inspiring, and just asking to be painted/photographed. Stayed in a lovely B&B called "The Merchant's House", which I would thorougly recommend to anyone going up to stay there.

Hope your cousin and her husband have a fantastic time living in Norfolk, Open Mike.

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 08:53 AM

While the pronunciation of the name of the River Nene may vary between two towns thru both of which it flows — the Nen in Northampton & the Neen in Ptbro — there is only one town of Oundle, which occupies a fixed site; and the people who live in it, & attenders at its famous school, all favour the Own- [to rime with 'down'] over the Oon- pronunciation: so surely their wishes should be paramount among the general population, howsomever some eccentrics from elsewhere may prefer to distort the name for their own inscrutable reasons.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 08:26 AM

I like Norwich and its environs too .Have visited it by water,and much enjoyed the cathedral and castle.Karen (Wild Flying Dove) lived in Norwich some years ago, and many of my ancestors,on my mother's side ( Eke) came from Norwich itself and villages around that area ; Corpusty,East Dereham,Wood Dalling,Binham, as per "Will Fly" also .There are some lovely Norfolk place-names ; one of my favourite entries in my father's WW2 log-book says " Base (RAF Oulton) to Little Snoring and return".


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 07:34 AM

You say Owndull I say Oondull
Depends whether you live near the River Neen or Nenn I guess. I only lived in Wootton for 18 months. Strangely I am typing this in Wotton (under Edge) many miles from Norfampton.

I think they will get the idea: listen to the locals before wagging tongue. Bit like pronouncing Arkansas or Stouffville isn't it?


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Smedley
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 03:26 AM

Yes, St Benedicts does have more than one instrument shop.

Re the local accent, I recall wondering why a friend from that area told me, whenever he'd been out for a run, that he was 'jargon'.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: The Villan
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 02:35 PM

>>I think I'll try him with the banjo and see what happens<<

That is really cruel Old Roger :-)


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 10:42 AM

Arnie - the street was probably St Benedicts. The Arts Centre is on that street and also a cuppla churches given over to art exhibitions. They have lots of churches given over to things in Norwich.

I had a word with my seven year old grandson. It appears there may be more dragons about in Norfolk than I thought. I have discovered he is some kind of consultant dragonologist which surprised me no end. There's hope for the lad yet..I think I'll try him with the banjo and see what happens


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Arnie
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 10:22 AM

I stayed in Swaffham a couple of years ago, in a house that is used in the summer by some of the Kingdom film crew (series starring Stephen Fry). Whilst there, I visited Norwich to do a bit of sightseeing and found a street that seemed to have it's fair share of music shops - not sure of street's name now. Anyway, I ended up buying a Yamaha guitar there (well it was in a sale and sounded great) and left Norwich with many hundreds of £'s less than I arrived. Not going near there again.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: The Villan
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 04:15 AM

See you soon Mary at Faldingworth.
Les


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 04:06 AM

If anyone out there is interested in buying a copy of Mardles ( East Anglia's Folk Magazine ) and their folk club doesn't have copies, you can get it online here:

Buy Mardles Here


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 12:43 AM

OTOH, it appears to have turned out that Norwich in the title of the thread is a bit of a misnomer, as we are actually talking of the environs of Kings Lynn which is not that near Norwich.

Peter Bellamy was raised near Wells-next-the-Sea.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 03:32 PM

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but Johnny Collins was raised in Norwich.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 09:02 AM

"Oon-dul" (for Oundle)! I've never heard that before! "Own-dul" is what we called it (with the 'ow' as in 'town').

Oh yes, and when I was growing up, in Peterborough, 'Wisbech' was pronounced 'Wiz-beech'.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 04:28 PM

Entirely innocent I vow and protest. Off to the local now for a pint - it's just across the road - how convenient can you get. Oh and I should be signed propely in this time, I'm not really a guest.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: The Villan
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 02:51 PM

Seems like you rogered me there old roger :-)

Thanks for putting me straight on that. :-)


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 01:33 PM

thanks for all the info...it sounds like King's Lynn
has some interesting things to check out!
http://theacoustickitchen.co.uk/
http://theacoustickitchen.co.uk/venue.htm

i see you are near by, Roger, perhaps you will meet one day.

thanks for the cathedral movies, Sedayne.

I may make it over to that part of the world someday..
it all looks lovely!!


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Old Roger
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 12:50 PM

Regarding The Villan's comments I'd like to help get that straight. Pete Kitchen runs "The Acoustic Kitchen", a monthly music club, in the premises of "The Riverside Restaurant" in central King' Lynn. He does a good job for contemporary acoustic music there but I am not sure he would be delighted to be represented as owning the establishment. The people who own it might be a bit miffed too.

Rudham is the next village along the Norwich road from the village where I live. We are very and I mean VERY, short of dragons around here which I seem to recall was the lady's central interest. I think this is true for neighbour regions, or even further afield although we did have one who worked as the receptionist at our local medical centre. The doctor used to say "never mind the dragon" so we knew it was true. We are also V. short of Saints George.

Went to King's Lynn last night to hear Sid Kipper do his stuff. He did "Norfolk and Good" (as set out above)to everyone's delight and two hours worth of other really funny folk spoofs.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: RamblinStu
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 10:04 AM

Regarding Norfolk place name pronunciations, another one that often confuses is Wymondham, a town a few miles southwest of Norwich..

Wymondham pronounced "Wind um", good hey

Stuart Pendrill


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: The Villan
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 09:30 AM

Not that far from Sandringham then http://www.sandringhamestate.co.uk/

Kings Lynn - there is a very nice place http://www.myspace.com/theacoustickitchen

Owned by this person.
http://www.myspace.com/peterwkitchen


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 06:45 AM

Beware pronunciations. Town names can be a minefield (in any country) Wisbech is pronounce Wisbeech, Hapisbourgh is pronounced Haze-buh-ruh and the river Nene is pronpounced Nenn in Northampton (pronounced Norfampton there) and Neen near Oundle (pronounced Oon-dul in Oon-dul) but it all comes out in the wash :-)

And as Noël Coward put it "very flat - Norfolk"


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 04:12 AM

Mmm, maybe one summer me & Mr. should do a self determined footpath tour of Norwich villages (bypassing the Chelsea-on-sea clones & drones), taking in some of the interesting churches en route.


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 04:10 AM

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If you are in the UK and see this message please read this advice.

Go to Radio channels home page


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 10:17 PM

this should be below the line..


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Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 08:50 PM

actual area is near Rudham...and Kings Lynn...northwest of Norwich.
looks like this is closer to "the Wash"


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