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Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)

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Subject: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 09:45 PM

Hi, Phoaks,

Dad was a little down for awhile in May and is finally back up to snuff, at 82, "entertaining the old phoaks in the nursing home" as he puts it.

That means he's learning more songs he forgot and his memory holds the human equivalent of the DT, already!

He wanted me to ask you all if any of you know all the words to the old timey version of Ace Down In The Hole. He said it is NOT the George Strait version.

Some of the words he remembers are "this town is full of guys who think they're pretty wise" and something about a "having a gal down at the Tenderloin".

Hope one of you can help out. Dad visits the Mudcat, vicariously, through me. I catch him up on all the doings and if I'm feeling flush with 'pewter paper, I send him hard copies of the more interesting and entertaining threads. He always appreciates the help and I know would be on here if he could.

Thanks a bunch,

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: Frank Maher
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 11:17 PM

Hi katlaughing, I have That Record and If You would like Me to send It to You by E-Mail ,I would be only to glad to do so.. Frank Maher fmaher@nfld.com


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jul 99 - 12:02 AM

Thanks, Frank. I just sent you an email with my address. Dad will be really pleased!


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jul 99 - 01:07 PM

You guys are Sooooooo Goooooood! Not only did Frank have it, he sent me an easy-to-open audio file of the old recording! It sounds great and I can't wait to tell Dad about it!!!

Mudcat comes throug, AGAIN!!!! Yahoooo!!!!! THANKS!!!

katlaughingjoyously!


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: Bert
Date: 28 Jul 99 - 01:15 PM

Here's a bit of it. Can't remember any more just now...

This town is full of guys, Who think they're mighty wise
just because they know a think or two
you can see them every day, strolling up and down Broadway
Telling of the wonders they can do

You'll see wise guys and boosters, card sharps and crap shooters
they congregate around the metropole
they wears those flashy ties and collars but where they get their dollars
why they've all got and ace down in the hole

Now some of them write to the old folks at home
and that's their old ace down in the hole
while others have girls on that old spending line
and thats their old ace down in the hole

Bert


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Aug 02 - 03:27 PM

Hmmm, I know I finally got all of the lyrics to dad; thought I'd added them. I'll go hunt them up. Just wanted anyone who is interested to know that I just heard a great rendition of his by Dave Von Ronk on PHC.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ACE IN THE HOLE (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Aug 02 - 06:10 PM

ACE IN THE HOLE
(James Dempsey, George Mitchell, 1909)

This town is full of guys
Who think they're mighty wise,
Just because they know a thing or two.
You see them every day
Walkin' up and down Broadway,
Telling of the wonders they can do.
There's con men and there's boosters,
Card sharks and crap-shooters.
They congregate around the Metropole.
They wear fancy ties and laces,
But where do they get their aces?
They all have got an ace down in the hole!

CHORUS: Some of them write to the old folks for coin,
And that is their ace in the hole;
And others have friends on the old Tenderloin;
That's their old ace in the hole.

BRIDGE: They'll tell you of trips that they're going to take
From Florida to the North Pole.
The fact is, their name would be mud,
Like a chump playing stud,
If they lost that old ace down in the hole!

REPEAT BRIDGE


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Aug 02 - 06:59 PM

Looks like you got the basic lyrics, Kat. For my tastes, the definitive version of this song is by Bob Scobey's Frisco Band, with Clancy Hayes on vocals. Scobey recorded many great songs... Everything is Peaches Down In Georgia, Sailing Down To Chesapeake Bay, Silver Dollar, Do You Know What It Means To Miss New Orleans... on and on. I'm kinda surprised that no one has mentioned him yet. Clancy played plectrum banjo and was a great singer.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 08:29 AM

The bridge that I know is:

They'll tell you about the money
That they have had and spent
But they can never flash that old bankroll
And their names would be mud like a chump standing stud
If they lost their old ace in the hole

First heard it by Freddy Legon with Humphrey Lyttelton's band before I heard the Bob Scobey/Clancy Hayes version


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: Chris in Wheaton
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 10:05 AM

I recollect Clancy sang "they wear fancy ties and collars, but where they get their dollars" and "like a chump dealin' stud"?
I used to go to some bar on Rush Street in Chicago in the 50's and listen to Scobey and Hayes. (This was before I knew about the Gate of Horn and the Midnight Special.) But the DJ, Dick Buckley, who used to play Dixieland on the FM is still going on WBEZ, so it's not entirely prehistoric!
In any event, for more great Dixieland, I also recommend Franz Jackson, the Yueba Buena Jazz Band, and some of the early Red Clay Ramblers stuff.
Chris in Wheaton


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 03:28 AM

The version I am familiar with is basically kat's with the bridge Hootenanny mentions, still a favourite with trad (ie dixieland) bands here in the UK.
(and the odd- very odd- old skiffler)

RtS


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Subject: RE: NEED LYR: Ace Down in the Hole-NOT G.Straits
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 07:17 PM

The words Bert posted for me are what my dad remembered, as it was him asking for them. When my sister gets back next summer and sorts things out, I'll see if we can dig out the old 78 it's on and see what those words are, but I expect they'll be the same.


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: ACE IN THE HOLE (Dempsey,Mitchell)
From: GUEST,einie@sbcglobal.net
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 12:25 AM

Here is the Song "Ace in the Hole" lyrics and chords as figured out by me. If someone can send me the audio recording I'd appreciate it. My Dad loved this song and I found a recording by Lu Watters and Clancy Hayes, but it is not the one my dad played all the time.

Hint: copy and past onto microsoft word with margins out to the far right of the page to get the chords to line up with the words properly.

Ace In The Hole   by Dempsey and Mitchell



G                       Db             G                               Db
This town is full of guys, who think they're mighty wise
G                           E                        Am E Am
Just because they know a thing or two
                         Am          E       Am               Am      E                Am   
(Why) you can see them every day, strolling up and down broadway
A                   A7                         D D9 D D7
Telling of the wonders they can do

                   G                   Db          G                               Db
You'll see wise guys and boosters, card sharps and crap shooters
          G               E               Am         E   Am
They congregate around the metropole
                   A                      D                A                              D                     
They wear flashy ties and collars, but where they get their dollars,
             A               A7                     D   D9 D D7
They've all got an ace down in the hole
G                                             Am                         D            D9   D7             G D   
Some of them write to their old folks for coin, and that's their ace in the hole
G                                     Am                      D          D9   D7            G         
Others know gals on the old tenderloin, and that's their ace in the hole
             A               D                      A                                                                  A7                D D9 D D7
They'll tell you of money they've made and they've spent, but they never can flash the bankroll
G                                                    Am                                     D          D9 D7            G         
But they'd be on the line, in their clothes not a dime, if they lost that old ace in the hole

Chorus    G Am D D9 D7 G    x2      
Verse      A   D   A    A7   D   D9   D D7
Chorus    G Am D D9 D7 G

G                                             Am                   D                D9   D7             G   
Some of them write to their old folks at home, and that's their ace in the hole
G                                     Am                      D          D9   D7            G         
Others know gals on that old tenderloin, and that's their ace in the hole
             A               D               A                                             A7                D D9 D D7
They'll tell you of trips they never did make, from Frisco up to the North Pole
                  G                                        Am                                     D          D9 D7          G
But their name would be mud, like a chump dealing stud, if they lost that old ace in the hole


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (not George Strait's)
From: GUEST,einie@sbcglobal.net
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 12:58 AM

Hey,

I just noticed that I put Gb instead of G# in the Chords to Ace in the Hole.

Sorry for the confusion. It's not a big thing, but it is the second chord in the song, and I thought people might give up after seeing that the first chord change sounds wrong.

--einie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:14 PM

Thank you SO much everybody for the chords to this song. I had a record years ago with Jack Teagarden singing it. Thanks to you it is going into my set......Dan Kelly


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,Alastair McDonald
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 01:45 PM

Hi. I think you`ll find a G diminished works better as the second chord.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,tpaysen
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 09:01 PM

A GOOD recording (and quite funny) was made in the lat-middle sixties by Johnny Mercer and Bobby Darin. (They say "chump PLAYING stud")
TP


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,susandempsey
Date: 29 Jun 10 - 10:50 PM

This song was written by my grandfather. I am searching for the original sheet music. Have an active search on e-Bay but I'm getting
the sheet music from the late 30's and early 60's by Vogel Music.

If anyone comes across the original sheet music, please let me know.

There's many sung versions...blues, ballad, dixieland. YouTube has about 30 versions.

sbd11607@yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,David RIchoux
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 04:22 PM

Is there anybody who has a second verse or variant for this song?

Pianist Bob Ringwald seems to recall something like:

Now, you can talk about the guys,
But when it comes to lies,
The gals can show them all a thing or two.
You'll see B-Girls and street walkers,
??????? and fast talkers,

but I don't se anything like that around - any clues?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,David Richoux
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 04:14 AM

Well, after several years - the original piano music for "Ace in the Hole" is now available! 2nd verse and all! http://yorkspace.library.yorku.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10315/24462/JAC004001.pdf?sequence=3

In case that link goes away, here are the 2nd Verse:
" The more you go around,
good old New York town,
you'll find that what I say to you is true.
They'll meet you with a smile,
but you know all the while,
that they're trying to spring something new.
The things they're always telling,
of lemons that they're selling,
and hundreds that they spend in buying cloths.
Ev'ry one knows that they're lying,
it's the aces do the buying,
that drum them from their heads down to their toes."

and 2nd Chorus:
"Some of them send ... and that's their ace in the hole" (same as first chorus)
They tell you of money that they may have spent,
and then they will flash a bank roll,
They'd be in the bread-line,
without clothes or a dime,
if they lost that old ace in the hole!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 11:18 AM

Will Friedwald has done some great work to do with the song 'Ace in the Hole. It is at

http://www.jazz.com/jazz-blog/2010/1/6/ace-in-the-hole

and very well worth the read.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,David Richoux
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 10:51 PM

Yet another version has been found! This one is dated 1934 and was arranged (and almost totally different lyrics by some obscure songsmith named Thomas Waller ;-) )

This version has a double intro and 3 refrains. The tune is about the same as the original version. I have a PDF scan that I can send off list to anyone interested (or is there a way to post it here?)

Intro 1
Some folks that you meet,
In any old street,
Make you feel your lot in life is tough;
You envy their style,
And confident smile,
But they're only living on a bluff.

Refrain 1
Some of them have information to sell,
That's their old ace in the hole;
Dear little secrets, they're paid not to tell,
That's their old ace in the hole.
The Sweet sugar daddies,
they'll squeeze till they squeal,
and always collect their full toll.
And they know that dear wife-y
will pay, if he don't,
That's their little old ace in the hole.

Intro 2
You drift here and there,
Most any old where,
It's the same thing over ev'ry time;
The millionaire strut is just "nothing but,"
But they're wishing they had one lone dime.

Refrain 2
Some of them come and sell titles for "dough,"
That's their old ace in the hole;
Bally old castles, at home, don't you know,
That's their old ace in the hole.
Of course, it's not mon-ey
they're after; oh, no!
It's love, nothing else,
bless your soul!
But they all get their checks
or no wedding bells ring,
Can't you see that's their ace in the hole?

Refrain 3
Some of them just make the dice carry on,
That's their old ace in the hole;
Some carry guns, when the daylight is gone,
That's their old ace in the hole.
They're experts in grafting,
that's how they get by,
No matter how they get their roll.
They will just muscle in,
when the law is asleep,
That must be their old ace in the hole.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ace in the Hole (J Dempsey, G Mitchell)
From: GUEST,JK23
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:08 AM

Glenn Orhlin, on his A Cowboy's Life CD tells about the old Pickwick Bar down in the river bottoms in Burbank California where cowboys would gather back in the '40s, where one of the bartenders, Tommy Coates, who also worked in pictures, doing stunts: "Sometimes when the sign was just right he'd jump on top of the bar and sing Ace in the Hole."

This town if full of guys who think they're might wise
Just because they know a thing or two
You can see them everyday goin' up and down Broadway
Telling all the wonders that they do.
There's con men and there's boosters. There's card sharps and crap shooters
They congregate around the metropole
They wear fancy ties and collars, but where they get those dollars
Well that's their old Ace in the Hole

Some of them write to the old folks for coin
That's their old Ace in the Hole
Others have girls in the old tenderloin
That's their old Ace in the Hole
They like to tell you 'bout the trips they're going to make
From Florida to that old North Pole
But their names would be mud
Like a chump playin' stud
If they lost that old Ace in the Hole

Now the more you hang around anywhere in this old town
The more you see that what I say is true
They'll greet you with a smile, but you know all the while
They're just trying to pull something new
You always hear them tellin' 'bout lemons that they're sellin'
They spend a hundred bucks a day for clothes
But you know that they're lyin' it's the aces does the buyin'
And dress them from their heads down to their toes

cho
Some of them write to the old folks for coin
That's their old Ace in the Hole
Others have girls in the old tenderloin
That's their old Ace in the Hole
They like to tell you 'bout the money that they spend
They tell you 'bout their influential friends
They're not extra wise, they're just ordinary guys
But they've got that old Ace in the Hole.


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