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Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling

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Subject: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 11:29 PM

I'm not sure if this fits the definition of folk music, so please forgive me if I'm out of line. The song I'm looking for is "Will You Be My Darling" by Mary Ann Owens - I'm not certain, but her father Jack Owens might possibly be a co-author too. I heard it years ago sung as a duet by Roy Rogers and Dale Evans in a 1946 movie, Song of Arizona, and really liked it. It stuck with me at least partially, but I can't find complete lyrics anywhere. I believe Roy and Dale sang a slightly modified version; I'd like to find both.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 02:03 AM

I cannot locate any lyrics--but I will keep looking. It does however seem that the title of the song is

"Will Ya' Be My Darling"

I don't think the question mark was put there--wasn't on any but one site I visited. That title comes from the Roy Rogers site as a btw.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 03:04 AM

Further to the above.

There is a link on the page that opens where one can hear a sample of "Will You Be My Darlin" (note spelling). About 9/10 of the way down the page. I have no sound on this computer so I cannot hear it at present.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:pAKU1eSKi78J:rogerowenspeanutman.com/blog/jack-owens-the-cruising-crooner/+%22mary+ann+owen


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 03:06 AM

It's about a 55 second sample, fyi.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 02:15 PM

Yes, I've heard that. I don't know if it's the complete song, though, being so short.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 07:24 PM

Woulkd you be kind enough to post a few of the lines you hear?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 08:49 PM

However, keep that site I linked to bookmarked. Seems that lyrics will be coming soon.
    Please note that anonymous posting is no longer allowed at Mudcat. Use a consistent name [in the 'from' box] when you post, or your messages risk being deleted. "Guest,guest" is not an acceptable posting name.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Elisabeth (Guest #1)
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 01:24 PM

This is what I got from listening to that recording:

Will you be my darling,
My honey bun?
Will you be my darling,
My only one?

You've got the love light [right?] in your eyes,
I've got a heart that's just your size.

Will you be my darling?
I think you might,
Will you be my darling
And start tonight?

Could you learn to love me as I love you?
Will you be my darling and make my dreams come true?

If I'm remembering correctly from years back, Roy and Dale's version used some alternate lyrics that went like this:

Will you be my darling
My only one?
Will you be my darling?
It might be fun....[etc]

And in the last verse:

Will you be my darling
And hold me tight,
Will you be my darling
And start tonight?

Could you learn to love me, etc...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 07:49 PM

Since when is anonymous posting not allowed in music threads?
    I think it's been a couple years. We let some slip by if they are legitimate music posts - but the rule has long been that anonymous posting is not allowed, not in either the music or BS section. See our posting policy for details. Those who have posted here on a regular basis, have no excuse for posting here anonymously. The rules have been posted for a long, long time.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 12:38 AM

According to Allmusic.com, WILL YA BE MY DARLIN' was recorded by Roy Rogers & Dale Evans, and it is on their CD box set "It Was Always the Music." Authorship is credited to Jack Elliott. (Not to be confused with Ramblin' Jack Elliott, a different person.)

According to ASCAP.com, WILL YOU BE MY DARLIN' was written by Jack Owens.

According to BMI.com, WILL YA BE MY DARLIN' was written by Mary Ann Owens.

I know, the inconsistencies are maddening.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Daphne
Date: 01 Jan 10 - 07:36 PM

I remember as a child having a record (78) of this song. The recorder's young daughter sang a verse. Can't remember much from the fifties.

Will you be my darlin'?
I think you're nice
Will you be my darlin'?
That's good advice
Will you learn to love me as I love you?
Will you be my darlin' and make my dreams come true?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Elisabeth
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 05:24 PM

Is that a direct transcription or just what you remember? If that was Jack Owens' version the young daughter must have been Mary Ann Owens...which sort of confounds the issue of who wrote it.

Wouldn't it be nice if places like ASCAP and BMI had databases online of lyrics as well as titles...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 01:21 AM

"84, Will Ya Be My Darlin', Elliott. Composed by: Elliott. Performed by: Rogers, Dale Evans,."

It seems the one done by Roy Rogers and Dale Evans was written by someone named Elliott.

There's another by Mary Ann Owens at

http://www.vintagemusicbooks.com/si/BOOKS019094I.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 12:22 PM

I have a feeling the Elliott credit may be a mistake - he did write four original songs for Song of Arizona, the film in which Roy and Dale sang "Will You Be My Darling." According to the TCM movie database entry for the film (I know, it's not always accurate), Mary Ann Owens is the author.

I'd like to see the inside of that sheet music. Notice that the description doesn't match up - "cover portrait of Mercer" would seem to indicate the description is for a Johnny Mercer song.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 09:41 PM

Title: Will ya be my darlin'.
First Line: You're the sweetest thing I've ever found that's why I follow you all over town
Chorus: Will ya be my darlin' my honey bun?
Music by: Owens, Mary Ann.
Words by: Owens, Mary Ann.
P/P/D: Hollywood, CA : Cross Music Company, c1945.
Location: SPC, KIRK SHEET 1945-1949


Author Name:   Will Ya.sheet music

Title:    WILL YA BE MY DARLIN'. By Mary Ann Owens. Introduced by Mary Ann Mercer


Binding:   Soft cover
Edition:   1st Edition
Publisher:    Hollywood Cross Music 1945. 1945

Seller ID:   BOOKS019094I

Pictorial paper covers and contents near fine condition. 12" x 9" (4)pp Contains lyric, melody line, piano accompaniment, and guitar chords. In part: "You're the sweetest thing I've ever found That's why I follow you all over town. I just want to be near you, just to see and hear you, Do you mind if I keep hangin' 'round?.". Illustrated by cover portrait of Mercer. First Edition. Binding is original wraps.

SHEET MUSIC, 40S AND 50S [ MUSIC POPULAR EPHEMERA MARY ANN OWENS MERCER ] ILLUSTRATED BY COVER PORTRAIT OF MERCER.





"You're the sweetest thing I've ever found
That's why I follow you all over town.
I just want to be near you,
just to see and hear you,
Do you mind if I keep hangin' 'round?.".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Elisabeth
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 05:44 PM

Now thoroughly confused...

My only question is, if the Roy & Dale version is by Jack Elliott, then why did Jack and Mary Ann Owens record it, especially if Mary Ann wrote a different song by the same title? Is it the same song or not?

Here's a possibility...on at least one occasion Elliott added new lyrics to a song by someone else for its use in one of Roy's pictures. Maybe that's why he received credit for this one.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 22 Nov 16 - 05:49 AM

Jack Elliott was John Elliot, a Hollywood composer who got his start in Chicago. As noted above, he wrote the theme song for the movie this song first appeared in. He worked with Rogers and Evans a lot so the confusion is normal.

Jack Owens was Roy Rogers' uncle. Mary Ann was Jack Owens' daughter who was ten years old when the song was published. Also from Chicago.

How much help she got from her father and how much the different ASCAP/BMI listings had to do with the politics is up for grabs.

Owens the Elder also wrote the Hukilau Song and the Hut-Sut Song &hc.

Mary Ann Mercer was a staff vocalist at WBBM (Chicago!) where she had a nationally broadcast show called "Melodies of Mary Ann." The sheet music mentioned above was most likely from NBC.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Will You Be My Darling
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 22 Nov 16 - 06:24 AM

Dale Evans recorded the song twice, both with the Cliffie Stone(head) Orchestra and Art West and The Sunset Riders and no Roy.

Chicago: Gold Seal #1920 is uncredited
Hollywood: Beltone BT20 credits "Elliott-Butts"


Robert Dale Butts was Dale Evans' third husband and the inspiration for her stage name. They met when both worked at WBBM. He was still writing material for her movies after their divorce, typical 'Hollywood' credits on this recording though.

Before the name change she was part of a jazz-pop quartet that included Russ Wood (a Central College music prof) and student-interns Norman Luboff and Ray Charles (unreliably uncredited as the Sunset Riders)


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