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Who was Jim Hill ?

GUEST,Guest 05 Jan 10 - 05:36 PM
catspaw49 05 Jan 10 - 05:49 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 05 Jan 10 - 05:50 PM
Jack Campin 05 Jan 10 - 06:15 PM
The Sandman 05 Jan 10 - 06:36 PM
Stower 05 Jan 10 - 06:50 PM
Jeri 05 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM
Don Firth 05 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM
The Sandman 05 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM
John on the Sunset Coast 05 Jan 10 - 07:00 PM
Jack Campin 05 Jan 10 - 07:14 PM
Don Firth 05 Jan 10 - 09:43 PM
Mark Ross 05 Jan 10 - 11:21 PM
GUEST,TJ in San Diego 06 Jan 10 - 07:29 PM
GUEST,Guest 06 Jan 10 - 08:44 PM
Art Thieme 07 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM
GUEST 07 Jan 10 - 03:42 PM
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Subject: BS: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 05:36 PM

In a version of the song "HALLELUJAH, I'M A BUM" it mentins Jim Hill.

e.g.

I like Jim Hill, He;s a good friend of mine<>


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Subject: RE: BS: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 05:49 PM

He's a friend of mine................


Sorry...Had to be said...........


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 05:50 PM

Joe Hill, the union organizer and IWW martyr?


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Subject: RE: BS: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:15 PM

We hate him. He's a poof.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:36 PM

him jill,me tonto,he was the lone ranger


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Subject: RE: BS: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Stower
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:50 PM

"GUEST,Guest", I'm going to assume your enquiry is genuine, and on that basis I'm sorry your enquiry has not, so far, been met with the information you're after. Please either sign in under a consistent name as a guest or, better still, sign up as a Mudcat member.

There is plenty of info about Joe Hill on the web, which I won't repeat here. But if you put "joe hill iww" into Google, you'll find plenty to interest you. "iww", by the way, is for the Industrial Workers of the World, which JH worked for, and whose members were and are known as Wobblies.


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM

It was in the BS section, and I had the options of deleting it or un-BSing it. It was about a song, after all.

I'd love to see the lyrics to GUEST,guest's version, since the ones in the DT here and here don't mention ANYONE named 'Hill'.


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM

Here you go:   James J. Hill, railroad tycoon. Instrumental in building railroads across the continent, sometimes called "The Empire Builder."

Not universally loved by a lot of people, especially tramps and hobos. Managed to earn a mention in a number of songs.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM

jim hill ,nothing to do with joe hill,jim hill was the guy who owned the railway line.
i like jim hill hes a good friend of mine thats why i go hiking down the old main line,


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 07:00 PM

Jim Hill is a sports anchor in Los Angeles, but I don't think they've sung songs about him.


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 07:14 PM

Another contender: James Hill, fiddler of Dundee and Gateshead .


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 09:43 PM

GSS, the way I learned the line was

I like Jim Hill, he's a good friend of mine,
That's why I'm walkin' down Jim Hill's main line.

That pins it down even tighter.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 11:21 PM

Jim Hill was the robber baron who built the Great Northern Railroad, and opened up much of the Northern Great Plains and the Pacific Northwest to settlement. As the hobo folklore had it, he said, "The boomers(traveling workers)built this railroad, they can ride any time they want." Regardless of whether or not that is true, the GN was always more tolerant of the Travelling Nation, and to this day that tradition still holds on the Highline.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 07:29 PM

I want it noted that he was described as Canadian-American. We don't want ALL the blame to fall on our side of the 49th parallel! He was from the generation of "robber barons," so-called because there was no income tax and no restraint on their monopolistic practices back then. A lot of good stuff got built by such "bad" people. Unfortunately, a lot of good people paid the price for this progress.


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 08:44 PM

Thank a lot, it is the railroad guy. I suspected he had something to do with the railroad.
    Please note that anonymous posting is no longer allowed at Mudcat. Use a consistent name [in the 'from' box] when you post, or your messages risk being deleted. "Guest,guest" is not an acceptable posting name. It has already been used.
    Thanks.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM

Mark Ross gets it right pretty much all of the time whenever he answers queries of a railroading and hoboing nature. BillD is right on too.

Art


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 03:42 PM

Great info Don and Mark.


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Subject: RE: Who was Jim Hill ?
From: The Villan
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 03:54 PM

This is Jimmy "The Chin" Hill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWmSjsAHd0g&feature=related

Only one other bloke I know with a chin like that.


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