Lyr ADD: Glory, Glory Psychotherapy (Melanie)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: GUEST,Yranigami
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 11:02 AM

Yes, that helps. Thanks very much.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 12:33 AM

Barnes & Noble has a 30-second sound clip, if that's any use to you. It's from the album "Beautiful People: The Greatest Hits of Melanie."

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: GUEST,Yranigami
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:43 PM

((That's okay. I'm quite blunt and, shall we say, tactless, myself.)) Yes, as a matter of fact, I have done a search... I can't seem to find it anywhere. I just thought someone might have a better solution than typing it in the search engine, seeing as that doesn't seem to work too well. Thanks anyway.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Mar 04 - 11:30 PM

Hey, do you have any idea how that request sounds? Have you done a search? That's what we'd have to do....it's an OLD record...

(yes, yes, folks...I don't sound 'friendly', do I? Sorry, but that's how it affects me...)

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: GUEST,Yranigami
Date: 07 Mar 04 - 09:36 PM

Hey, does anyone have any idea where I could get a free download of the song?

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 04:25 PM

Thanks Bert.
Only after writing this did I remember the other eerie part -- the Vietnam wall not only has the names suspended in blackness, but it is shiny enough so that you are reflected in it, so it is as if you too are caught in the black amber, or can be seen beating your arms against death, or touching it. It is really disorienting: you feel like running or smashing against it to make it stop doing that blackness. It should be a flat wall, and instead it isn't. It really holds you, and keeps you moving at the same time, because the names pile up and the slope goes down. It really is like some machine of death: like looking at your face in a black scythe. Brrrrrrrr.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Bert
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 03:58 PM

Peter T, I haven't been to the Vietnam Memorial but I know the feeling that you describe. Had exactly the same feeling when I visited the memorial museum at Lidice in, what was then, Czechoslovakia. After the Germans had burned the bodies, their widows sifted through the ashes for anything that remained of their men. A couple of buttons for this man, the heel of that man's shoe. A piece of leather belt, part of a bar of soap.

The place was deathly quiet and the horror just mounted as you walked around the display.

I can still feel the tears - just writing about it.

Bert.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: as_a_mauve
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 01:39 PM

(sidebar)

The Vietnam Memorial (pre-spurious additional statutes) was designed by a female... a young chinese american.

(another sidebar) In my not a bit humble opinion, psychology is voo-doo of the most heinous sort. Way too soft a science dealing with way too many uncatagorized variables. And while there are many fine and dedicated healers in the profession, the tools they're required to use leave a great deal to be desired. I tend to be thankful that the need/desire/ability to heal does not require adequate tools all the time.

(not a sidebar) I like Melanie (small doses) and the Monkees (small doses) and James Taylor (extremely small doses)... I just listen. The things that make me grin, I'll listen to again.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 11:41 AM

No, no, WW, please just e-mail it to me. I meant that I don't know any Mudcatter's e-mail unless they send me an e-mail first! I assumed you had your e-mail on the Mudcat members list, as I do, but I can't seem to ever get to it. My computer freezes when I try.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 11:15 AM

Does that mean you can reply if I send you my email address? If so:

[e-mail]

Or did that mean you wanted me to post the column here? That might seriously piss someone off if it takes a long time to load, right?

WW

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 09:48 AM

Please, Wyowoman, I'd like to see it. Unfortunately, I have had long standing trouble with getting to the e-mail list (I can reply once I get an e-mail) on Mudcat, so I have to request this here. Yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 02 Aug 99 - 11:17 PM

Yeah, what made my knees buckle was seeing the name of a boy I went to high school with.

I'm a newspaper columnist and wrote a column about it. If you want me to email you a copy of the column, let me know and I'll zap it along to you.

WW

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 02 Aug 99 - 03:13 PM

Sorry, didn't respond to the note -- I didn't mean the monument was tacky, I meant tacky in the context of all the joking around about monuments, etc.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 02 Aug 99 - 02:26 PM

The original experience is completely unforgettable. It is so simple, small even, cut into the hillside. One has heard so much about it, and seen pictures, but it is so ordinary. It is as ordinary as a walk in a field, and being killed on a sunshiney day. The earth slides open. Traffic is not far away, people walking down a ramp in the sunshine, silence seeping into their talk. You descend into this expanding hell. The walls appear almost translucent, so the names seem to be suspended in blackness. Pathetic human trinkets propped up against this flat slicing growing thing of darkness.
You just shudder in the open air. The closest thing to it in my experience (thank goodness) is some passages in Homer about the bitter loss of the sunbright world to those who have loved life so much.
I lost American schoolfriends in the war, so I have a personal connection to some names on the wall, but even so, nothing really prepared me ....
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 01 Aug 99 - 06:17 PM

Why is that tacky? It doesn't sound tacky to me, but then, I'm a woman. I love the elegance of that monument, although when I was in Washington, I couldn't force myself to go see it. I only have seen the traveling exhibit that came through here a couple of weeks ago, but it dropped me to my knees with grief. I was completely unprepapred for that response.

WW

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 01 Aug 99 - 11:49 AM

This is going to sound incredibly tacky, but it has always seemed to me that only a woman could have designed the Vietnam memorial, because you have to go down into the earth to experience it. You can see how different it is from all the male monuments around it -- including the statues put up because people couldn't stand its simplicity.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 01 Aug 99 - 01:30 AM

sometimes a canyon is just a canyon...

;-}

ww

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Chet W.
Date: 01 Aug 99 - 01:19 AM

Watch out for that phallic Grand Canyon to the south there, WW.

Chet

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Jul 99 - 11:36 PM

one time, when Utah Phillips played for our group in Wash DC. he told of seeing the Washington Monument...and being quite inpressed. Then he said, he saw the Martha Washington Monument, too.......a 500 ft' deep hole on the banks of the Potomac River....

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 31 Jul 99 - 12:46 AM

A song's a phallic symbol if it's longer than it's deep...

WW

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Chet W.
Date: 31 Jul 99 - 12:41 AM

After experiencing psychotherapy and studying it quite a bit, I generally assume there's a hidden sexual meaning in pretty much everything. I guess it's not so hidden in a song that's actually about Freud.

Am I right or wrong?

Chet

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 10:57 PM

well, I heard the song from a "Larry Kiefer"..who was a folkie before we knew we were folkies...(also sang opera)...in about the 7th Pizza Hut that ever existed...had live music on Sat nights...this had to be '62, and I think he had gotten it 'back East', or from Sing Out...

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Alice
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 07:28 PM

Peter T., the only person I know who liked Melanie was (true!) a big, hairy, macho guy. (I wonder what that means....)

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 05:24 PM

I have, on vinyl, an old record by John Greenway, author of American folksongs of Protest-- recorded about 1960 or so on which The Psychotherapy Song can be found. He claims to have written the last three verses & gotten the rest from the proverbial Man in the Bar. (I'm not home & can't check what i just said). Verses (from memory) are pretty much as posted. PETE

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 11:12 AM

Well 'I' like her. Especially "Look what they've done to my song" and "The nickel Song"

Bert, (who sometimes gets stuck in the past)

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 11:01 AM

I rest my case.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 10:49 AM

Hey! I always took that roller skate and key song as a sexual metaphor.

Ww

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 10:20 AM

Melanie Safka, Bill, rhymes with Kafka. Had the voice of a 4 year old girl. Sang gooey renditions of songs like Ruby Tuesday. I think she actually wrote this song, but could be wrong. She was almost singlehandedly responsible for a brief period of childlike dumbing down of reasonably intelligent young women in the late 60's, early 70's. Sang about roller skates and keys, a.a. milne poems, candles in the wind. One of the more depressing memories of that period, along with the bombing of Hanoi.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 09:17 AM

this "Melanie" person...did she write this?..how far back does it go?..seems to me I remember hearing some guy sing it about 1963...

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: harpgirl
Date: 30 Jul 99 - 01:04 AM

...Peter, you must do something about that repetition compulsion!!!! "Nothing glorious about psychotherapy," she said, as she wrote out a large check for malpractice insurance...harpgirl

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: WyoWoman
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 11:59 PM

You are all princes among men, even if you shudder at the thought of Melanie's lyrics. What brought this up was that I bought a little pin the other day that is a photo of Siggy Freud's face, with a little monkey wrench planted in the brain and a switch that, when you flip it, plays "Try to Remember..."

I thought it was hilarious, but no, one in my office exactly bust a gut laughing...

This, though...THIS will get 'em...

Thanks again, you amazing song sleuths, you.

WW

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 10:48 PM

Wolfgang, don't you mean the tiple shudder? --seed

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Susan of DT
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 08:07 PM

See also [Dr. Freud]

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Chet W.
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 04:48 PM

Wasn't somebody asking about a snatch of a song on another thread?

Chet

Subject: Lyr Add: PSYCHOTHERAPY (Melanie Safka)
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 04:39 PM

Altavista is almost as good a search engine as Rick's basement. Here is the Melanie (shudder) lyrics site, containing everything, including Alexander Beetle (double shudder) here

PSYCHOTHERAPY
(Melanie Safka)

Oh, mine eyes have seen the glory of the theories of Freud.
He has taught me all the evils that my ego must avoid:
Repression of the impulses resulting paranoid
As the id goes marching on.
Glory, glory, psychotherapy,
Glory, glory, sexuality,
Glory, glory, now we can be free
As the id goes marching on.

There was a man who thought his friends to him were all superior,
And this complex he imagined made life drearier and drearier,
Till his analyst assured him that he really was inferior,
As the id goes marching on.
Glory, glory, psychotherapy,
Glory, glory, sexuality,
Glory, glory, now we can be free
As the id goes marching on.

Do you drown your superego in a flood of alcohol (or something else)
And go running after women till you're just about to fall?
You may think you're having fun but you're not having fun at all,
As the id goes marching on.
Glory, glory, - (You're not singing, you're just clapping!)
Glory, glory, psychotherapy,
Glory, glory, sexuality,
Glory, glory, now we can be free
As the id goes marching on.

Oh, sad is the masochism, the vagaries of sex,
Have turned half the population into total nervous wrecks.
But your analyst will cure you, long as you can pay the cheques,
As the id goes marching on.
Glory, glory, psychotherapy,
Glory, glory, sexuality,
Glory, glory, now we can be free
As the id goes marching on.

Is your body plagued by aches and pains that you can't understand:
Compound fractures, ingrown toenails, floating kidneys, trembling hands?
There's a secret to your trouble: you're in love with your old man,
As the id goes marching on. (All together now!)
Glory, glory, psychotherapy,
Glory, glory, sexuality,
Glory, glory, now we can be free
As the id goes marching on.

Freud's mystic world of meaning needn't have us mystified.
It's really very simple what the psyche tries to hide:
A thing is a phallic symbol if it's longer than it's wide,
As the id goes marching on.
Glory, glory, psychotherapy,
Glory, glory, sexuality,
Glory, glory, now we can be free
As the id goes marching on.

Yours, Peter T. (goofing off on a hot day)

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Allan C.
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 04:23 PM

Try again

Melanie Lyrics

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Allan C.
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 04:21 PM

Hereyago:

Subject: RE: Glory, glory psychotherapy
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 04:09 PM

Now watch it Wyo, if you start talking phallic symbolism you're gonna scare the hell out of a lot of us! Not Mick or Fadac (who've both informed us that they're larger than condominiums) but if that Catspaw sees this thread, it could get ugly!
I may have that album downstairs. I'll go and check.
Rick

Subject: Glory, glory psychotherapy/lyr.request
From: WyoWoman
Date: 29 Jul 99 - 03:57 PM

No, this is not a recommendation for those of you still holed up in the Mudcat Tavern. It actually is a request for lyrics.

Some years back, Melanie put out an album that had a really funny song to the tune of the Battle Hymn of the Republic. I only remember a few of the words:

...A thing's a phallic symbol if it's longer than it's wide, And the id goes marching on...

Glory, glory psychotherapy, Glory, glory sexuality, Glory, glory, now we can be free... As the id goes marching on ....

Does anyone else remember this song or have the album with lyrics?

Thanks, WW