Subject: Essay: Robert Johnson and the (Cross)Roads From: GUEST,Joachim Brouwer Date: 27 Jun 14 - 12:15 PM Joachim Brouwer |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Will Fly Date: 08 May 11 - 08:21 AM There's a short article in today's (UK) Observer - an interview with Honeyboy Edwards about Johnson. I tend to approach these articles with some weariness these days - the same stories, and refutations of stories, and refutations of the refutations - plus the one and only picture of RJ with guitar. (Thinks: I wonder if the reputed RJ guitar's been sold for $2,000,000 yet...) |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: GUEST,Bluesman James Date: 07 May 11 - 11:30 PM Happy 100 Birthday Mr. Johnson. There was a documentary made about 15 years ago, "The search for Robert Johnson" narrated and starring John Hammond Jr. There are some great moments with Honeyboy Edwards and the late Johnny Shines (for some reason Robert Jr. Lockwood was not included - He was Robert's step-son. Its really strong with the research and musicology with Burton "Mac" McCormick and other Blues Historians. Mac McCormick was the scholar who tracked down Robert's death certificate. |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Wesley S Date: 07 May 11 - 08:46 PM This documentry is worth checking out. And it's hosted by John Hammond Jr. The Search for Robert Johnson |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 07 May 11 - 07:52 PM The story about playing with your back turned so the other musicians won't learn your secrets (bobad's post of 13 Nov 09, a few posts up) has also been attached to 1920s klezmer clarinetist Naftule Brandwein. |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Desert Dancer Date: 07 May 11 - 05:43 PM Hard to decide which Robert Johnson thread to add this to... Robert Johnson's 100th birthday is tomorrow. Robert Johnson At 100, Still Dispelling Myths by Joel Rose National Public Radio, Weekend Edition May 7, 2011 Sunday marks the 100th anniversary of the birth of Robert Johnson. Although he recorded just 29 songs, the bluesman had a huge influence on guitarists such as Eric Clapton and Keith Richards. Johnson is one of the most studied of all country blues musicians, and he's been the subject of many books, films and essays. But the mythology surrounding his life just won't go away. If you know anything about Johnson, chances are it's the story that he sold his soul to the devil at the crossroads in exchange for his musical talent. That legend reached a mainstream audience with the 1986 movie Crossroads, starring Joe Seneca and Ralph Macchio. But according to folklorist Barry Lee Pearson, it didn't happen. "The popular mythology has him as a total loner," Pearson says, "and kind of lived this life in regret as a repayment for his alleged sin of making a contract with Old Scratch." Pearson, a professor at the University of Maryland and the co-author of the book Robert Johnson: Lost and Found, says none of it is true. In the absence of any real biographical information, Pearson says early blues writers got a little carried away. "Everybody was so anxious to make this devil story true that they've been working on finding little details that can corroborate it," he says. Here is what we do know about Robert Johnson. He said he was born in Mississippi on May 8, 1911, and grew up on a plantation in the Delta. As a young man, he was more interested in music than farming: He'd hound the older blues musicians for a chance to play. In an interview included in the 1997 documentary Can't You Hear the Wind Howl, Son House recalls that the young Johnson would annoy audiences with his lousy guitar playing. "Folks they come and say, 'Why don't you go out and make that boy put that thing down? He running us crazy,' " House said. "Finally he left. He run off from his mother and father, and went over in Arkansas some place or other." When Johnson came back from Arkansas six months later, he'd mastered the guitar. That's where the rumors about his deal with the devil came from, but Johnson acknowledged studying with a human teacher while he was gone. After that, Johnson worked as a traveling musician, playing on street corners and in juke joints, mostly in Mississippi. And in 1936, he got a chance to record in Texas. "Terraplane Blues" was a minor hit, and he was invited back for a second recording session. Johnson died a year later at age 27, under mysterious circumstances. Some think he was poisoned, although a note on the back of his death certificate says the cause was syphilis. In any case, the timing was tragic. Legendary Columbia Records talent scout John Hammond wanted to book Johnson at Carnegie Hall for the landmark "Spirituals to Swing" concert in 1938. Hammond was also the driving force behind the first LP reissue of Johnson's music in 1961. At the time, Johnson was so obscure that Columbia didn't even have a picture of him to put on the cover. The LP was produced by Frank Driggs, who also wrote the liner notes. "If you read the liner notes," Driggs says, "you see next to nothing. 'Cause I just created a thing out of whole cloth when I wrote the notes. Because there really was very little known about the guy." Up Against The Wall That LP, King of the Delta Blues Singers, introduced Johnson's music to a new generation of young, mainly white blues fans, including Eric Clapton, as the rock legend told NPR in 2004. "It was on Columbia and it had, like, some pretty interesting sleeve notes on it about the fact that these were the only sides he had cut, and that they'd done it in a hotel room, and when he was auditioning for the sessions that he was so shy, he had to play facing into the corner of the room," Clapton says. "I mean, I immediately identified with that, because I was paralyzed with shyness as a kid." But there may be another reason why Johnson recorded facing the wall. Elijah Wald is a musician and the author of the book Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues. He says there were pre-war blues musicians who played guitar better than Johnson, as well as musicians who sang better. But Wald says that, unlike most of them, Johnson learned to play from listening to radio and records. "Robert Johnson certainly was very conscious of what a hit record sounded like," Wald says. "If you listen to something like 'Come on in My Kitchen,' he's singing very quietly, and he actually has a moment when he says, 'Can't you hear the wind blowin'.' He whispers it and then plays this very quiet riff. That never would have worked on a street corner or a Mississippi juke joint, but it sounds great on records." Sound is one of the main things that distinguishes Johnson's sides from other records of the time. By facing the wall, Wald says Johnson might have made his vocals sound better to a later generation accustomed to high fidelity. It doesn't hurt that the original masters of his recordings survived, too. But what really set Johnson apart from his peers was all of the mythology that grew up around him, especially the part about the devil. Many of Johnson's friends, including Johnny Shines in Can't You Hear the Wind Howl, dismissed it as false. "No," Shimes says, "he never told me that lie. If he would've, I would've called him a liar right to his face. You have no control over your soul. How you gonna do anything with your soul?" But the myth about Johnson persists, in part because it helps sell records. Steve Berkowitz is a producer at Sony Legacy, which is reissuing Johnson's music again, this time in a new centennial edition. "That was always the heart and soul of the marketing plan," Berkowitz says. "We always knew the music was great. But a guy sells his soul to the devil at midnight down at the crossroads, comes back and plays the hell out of the guitar, and then he dies. I mean, it's a spectacular story." And there wouldn't be any harm in that, Wald says, except that the legend tends to overshadow the real Robert Johnson. "To just say that he went to the crossroads in the dead of night, first of all means we're not getting what happened. And second of all, it's kind of insulting," Wald says. "It's kind of implying that, unlike us who do this serious work to understand music, these old black blues guys just went and sold their soul to the devil." If it were really that easy, Wald says, the devil would own the souls of every teenage boy and girl in America. -- Another recent NPR item, You've Never Heard Robert Johnson's 'Complete Recordings'?!, a blog essay by a young NPR intern, including a nice YouTube of an animation to "Crossroads". ~ Becky in Long Beach |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Bobert Date: 14 Nov 09 - 08:22 PM Yeah, I've heard tyhat story, too, FGiant... Seems that Robert grabbed Son's guitar and was dancin' around the stage with it during break... But Robert was payin' attention... Just hadn't figured the guitar out but you hear alot of Son in Robert's stuff... Couldn't agree with you more about the corporate slobs who dictate what and who we are going to listen to... I'd love to see ClearChannel nuked from the face of the Earth fir starters... B~ |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: GUEST,FolkGiant Date: 14 Nov 09 - 08:15 PM My favorite story surrounding Robert Johnson is from an interview with the above-mentioned Son House. He described how Robert used to bother him and Willie Brown to borrow their guitars at gigs while House and Brown were on a break. Son said, "I used to tell him, 'go on, now, Robert; you just be noising the people'." "NOISING the people"... noise as a verb. I love it. It has, coincidentally, always been my belief that the most talented people in the world are those who DON'T sell their souls to devils or anyone else. The ones who populate the shallow and mindless corporate music(sic) industry are the ones whose souls, if they have any, are in the iron grip of Satan himself. |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Bobert Date: 14 Nov 09 - 07:44 PM Well, first of all, the deal with the Devil is more attributed to Tommy Johnson than to Robert Johnson... Second, yeah, Robert was one fine bluesman... Personally, I'm more a Son House, who BTW was an early mentor to Robert, kinda bluesman but I like Robert okay, too... B~ |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Will Fly Date: 14 Nov 09 - 10:21 AM The fabled crossroads where Robert Johnson is supposed to have sold his soul to the devil in exchange for his guitar prowess has not been definitively located Well it wouldn't be, as that's all silly nonsense anyway. This myth came about, apparently, because Johnson - who wasn't very good at an early point in his career - is supposed to have disappeared for three months and then returned with a prodigious technique. But it's perfectly possible for a musician to improve hugely in a very short time. Charlie Parker, as a novice sax player, only played in one key and was humiliated when he first sat in with a band in (I think) Kansas City. So humiliated was he that he determined to go away and practice until he could play freely in any key - which he did in a very short space of time. There's also the amazingly quick progress made by Robbie Robertson in his early days with Ronnie Hawkins/Levon & The Hawks - documented in "Across The Great Divide" and in Levon's own autobiography. If Robert Johnson had sold his soul to the devil, he'd probably have got a banjo in exchange... |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: meself Date: 14 Nov 09 - 10:11 AM Or is it that you were so much older then; you're younger than that now? |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 14 Nov 09 - 05:35 AM How these old threads come back to bite you in the bum! I gave up the "zimmer" handle as the reference to ageing lost on US 'Catters). RtS (formerly RtZ) |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: bobad Date: 13 Nov 09 - 07:29 PM From the NY Times: Robert Johnson's House to Rise Again By DAVE ITZKOFF The fabled crossroads where Robert Johnson is supposed to have sold his soul to the devil in exchange for his guitar prowess has not been definitively located, but the musician's birthplace has been determined and plans are in the works to restore it as a tourist attraction, The Associated Press reported. Mr. Johnson, the blues guitarist of "Sweet Home Chicago" and "Love in Vain," who influenced artists from Muddy Waters to Eric Clapton, was born in 1911 in Hazlehurst, Miss., in a home built by his stepfather. The birthplace was verified in a letter from his half-sister, according to the cultural affairs office of Copiah County, which is seeking to raise $250,000 to restore the home as a destination for music fans and Johnson acolytes. "He was so good that he would literally turn his back when they were recording him," said the screenwriter Jimmy White ("Ray"), who is working on a script about Mr. Johnson's life. "He didn't want the other musicians to see his fingering technique." |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 13 Nov 09 - 01:03 PM Is there anyone who isn't a fan? |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Ebbie Date: 13 Nov 09 - 11:52 AM Did you see that they are planning to restore his home? (I don't have an URL, just found it in on MSN in an AP story. Shelia Ward, wrtier. "JACKSON, Miss. - The mystery surrounding bluesman Robert Johnson's life and death feeds the lingering fascination with his work. "There's the myth he sold his soul to the devil to create his haunting guitar intonations. There's the dispute over where he died after his alleged poisoning by a jealous man in 1938. Three different markers claim to be the site of his demise. "His birthplace, however, has been verified. The seminal bluesman came into the world in 1911 in a well-crafted home built by his stepfather in the Mississippi town of Hazlehurst. "Now, 71 years after his death, local officials want to restore the home in hopes of drawing Johnson fans and their tourism dollars to Copiah County, about 100 miles from the Delta region that most bluesmen called home." -------------------------------------------- |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: The Resonator Date: 31 Jul 99 - 01:42 AM "I was up this morning, saw the blues walking like a man. Said the blues, 'Give me your right hand.'" This is the Mudcat Cafe. Home of blues talk, guitar talk, et cetera. The place is crawling with Robert Johnson fans, Tommy Johnson fans, Blind Willie Johnson fans, fans of fans (which I have all around me this sticky, mid-atlantic night.) So, yes, there are some Robert Johnson fans here. "Ain't gon' state no color. But her front teeth is crowned with gold. She got a mortgage on my body, lien on my soul." What a woman! Peace. |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: WyoWoman Date: 31 Jul 99 - 01:14 AM I've sung "Kitchen Song" for years and I"ve always wondered if I was sinning because I changed his lyrics to "The MAN that I love,... skinny and kinda tall .... he moves his body ... jus' like a cannonball...." works just as well as "...woman I love..." and I get to sing one of my favorite songs. WW |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: PJ Curtis. Date: 30 Jul 99 - 03:17 PM Crossroads Blues and hellhound On MY Trail gives me the chills. This is where blues and Rock REALLY begin. The most expressive folk/blues poet of his generation. I played Stones In My Passway last Ed. night in my world-music radio prog -Reels To Ragas-on LyricFm ...from Ireland. (www.lyricfm.ie) PJ Curtis.(Ireland) |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 30 Jul 99 - 12:56 PM Wako, Welcome to the Mudcat. There are quite a few Robert Johnson lovers on the Mudcat. I am just one of them. If you go to the top of the Main Page of the forum you will see a slot labelled "Check out our artists bio's". Robert Johnson is included. Roger in Baltimore
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Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Jasper Date: 30 Jul 99 - 11:41 AM Robert Johnson the tuba player? |
Subject: RE: Robert Johnson From: Roger the zimmer Date: 30 Jul 99 - 11:41 AM You jest, surely? The main man, wouldn't we all sell our soul...why do you think Max links to the Mississippi Crossroads...(Roger's rambling again folks, leap in and stop him) |
Subject: Robert Johnson From: Wako (inactive) Date: 30 Jul 99 - 11:38 AM Any fans of Robert Johnson out there? |
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