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Tech: Windows Media Player ID's CDs

Barbara Shaw 18 Jan 10 - 11:21 PM
Joe Offer 19 Jan 10 - 12:12 AM
mousethief 19 Jan 10 - 12:55 AM
Joe Offer 19 Jan 10 - 01:10 AM
artbrooks 19 Jan 10 - 01:12 AM
Barbara Shaw 19 Jan 10 - 09:51 AM
Geoff the Duck 19 Jan 10 - 02:04 PM
Barbara Shaw 27 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM
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Subject: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 11:21 PM

Very weird. Put our "In Connecticut" cd into the computer drive, and Windows Media Player filled in all the artist and song info as various Mozart horn concertos recorded by the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra!

Is it matching the time or how is it coming up with that? Our "Going Home" cd came up blank, and that's the one that should have info filled in since it's on iTunes and several other digital outlets. Next have to try our "Songs of the Civil War Era" cd (if I can find one open) to see what it thinks that one is!


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 12:12 AM

Hi, Barbara-
This function comes in very handy for me, since I'm transferring all my CDs to my computer because I have a storage problem. Now I can find songs with a few keystrokes.
Some CDs aren't in the database, but Windows Media Player allows you to add cd track listings to their database.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 12:55 AM

It's so annoying when the person(s) who first keyed it in, did it wrong. Sometimes I think some of them do it on purpose.

O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 01:10 AM

Yeah, Alex, I do a lot of correcting - right-click on the album, and select "search for album information" if what comes up isn't correct, select "edit" in the box that appears - that updates the master database, but it takes a few days to be recorded.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: artbrooks
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 01:12 AM

I've had the impression that this works only if the CD is a commercial (aka "major label") production. The data seems to not be on the web for singer-songwriter self-produced stuff. I'd guess that there is some sort of embedded code that sucks it on down if the computer you are using to play it is online. One of the options in Windows Media Player (Tools>Options>Library) is "retrieve additional information from the Internet), and I think that the default is on.


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:51 AM

Still don't understand how my ShoreGrass CD tracks came up as the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic. Also, it seems that there are albums and tracks in my library that I've never listened to and never heard about before. How did they get there?


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 02:04 PM

Barbara - I looked it all up a couple of years back when I was copying some of my old LPs onto CD. Some of the recordings pulled down the correct track names via the internet when I then put them onto my i-pod. I was, like you curious how.
Various programmes refer to something called the Gracenotes Database, which is an online resource for trying to identify CDs by their content. If I have the correct recollection, it isn't a complex system, but is based on measuring the duration (in seconds) of the CD and of each track.
If I had released a CD containing 10 tracks, and all of them were 10.1 seconds long it would be possible to put the data on the database with a name and artist details. If you then tried to play a different CD which also had ten tracks of 10.1 seconds duration, it would be falsely identified as my CD.
This would explain your orchestral music ID.

More modern technology tries to compare the actual music for identification, not an easy task when they want to identify MP3 data (which has a lot of info deliberately "lost" to keep file size small) as the same music as a full *.wav file containing as much of the waveform data as the recording software can save.

I think I found a lot of the info via Wikipedia, which is always worth checking.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Windows Media Player ID's CDs
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM

Interesting that it identified the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic for all but the last track (a Gillian Welch song) which it called unknown.

I think the unknown tracks in my library came with the Dell. Only explanation I can come up with.

Thanks for the responses.


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