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Prepaying for CDs

mg 22 Jan 10 - 03:37 PM
jeffp 22 Jan 10 - 03:41 PM
Joe Offer 22 Jan 10 - 03:47 PM
Tangledwood 22 Jan 10 - 04:50 PM
mg 22 Jan 10 - 05:37 PM
Sandra in Sydney 22 Jan 10 - 05:54 PM
mg 22 Jan 10 - 07:18 PM
GUEST,Russ 22 Jan 10 - 09:21 PM
open mike 23 Jan 10 - 01:09 AM
GUEST,matt milton 23 Jan 10 - 05:03 AM
GUEST,Millindale 23 Jan 10 - 06:08 AM
Will Fly 23 Jan 10 - 06:23 AM
artbrooks 23 Jan 10 - 07:20 AM
jacqui.c 23 Jan 10 - 08:57 AM
Anne Lister 23 Jan 10 - 10:27 AM
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Subject: Prepaying for CDs
From: mg
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 03:37 PM

This is a rhetorical question..does this work sometimes? We will need to raise a bit of money --probably around $2k, to print some CDs and pay some royalties..looking at various options. The CD will be professionally engineered, is of a maritime theme, and will have some excellent singers and songs..people well-known in these circles...any ideas? THis is just my own question and is not official for any group etc. mg


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: jeffp
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 03:41 PM

I know of some bands that have done it, but I don't know their results. I do know that the CDs got made, so I suspect there was some success. The better-known the players are, the better your results are likely to be, I would guess.

Good luck!


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 03:47 PM

I want one of those CDs, Mary, and I'm willing to pay now.

Anne Lister and Debra Cowan both experimented with low-key fundraising campaigns to finance CDs, and I think their experiments worked very well. Those of us who subscribed, got early downloads of songs as they were recorded. I would think this sort of thing would work best for people with established reputations like Anne and Debra - and yourself. You have a very good name to trade on.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Tangledwood
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 04:50 PM

Writing as a consumer, not a performer, I happily prepay for CDs if I know the performers work is consistantly to my taste. I've done it once previously for my favourites and have just done it again for their latest CD which is still in the recording phase. It is the second time that they've taken this approach so I assume that it works for them.

On the other hand, I've often bought CDs on the basis of hearing one song from the artist only to find that there is little else on it that appeals. So, for artists that I don't know well, no prepayment.

I've sometimes thought that there could potentialy be a need for some kind of fund to be set up to provide loans for just this purpose. I suppose a local organisation to promote local artists would be the way to go. There would need to be safeguards in place to ensure repayment and probably an audition to ensure the work is up to recording standard - rather like a scholarship I suppose.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: mg
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 05:37 PM

Actually, I am not speaking for a committee, which does exist, but just for myself..but we hope to get enough revenue from this (tugboat) to pay for future maritime-type recordings. There is such talent in PNW US and elsewhere...

I guarantee you that if you follow maritime music in the PNW that you would know most of these singers by name and reputation. The songs are simply superb and the renditions are first-class..plus hopefully we will have pretty pictures on cover etc..we will for sure...mg


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 05:54 PM

I've been involved, either directly as a subscriber or as a committee member of a folk organisation, in at least 3 pre-paid CDs & all went well.

The projects were organised by people or organisations to reproduce the work of very well-known dead performers.

3 organisations I was involved with also supported Martyn Wyndham-Read's Oz-UK 'Songlinks'project.

In each case, individuals & folk organisations paid money towards the production of the CDs then received several copies of the CD.

Go for it!

sandra


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: mg
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 07:18 PM

Thanks. My next question involves the CD insert. I presume we will want the lyrics printed. Also of course the cover..What is the best way here? I thought you could go into Powerpoint and there was a template but I looked there and in word etc. Any ideas? mg


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 09:21 PM

mg,

You can use Powerpoint to do CD inserts.

I have done it.

There is no template because Powerpoint was not intended for use as a desktop publishing program.

However, Powerpoint handles combining text and graphics as well as a program can that is not a desktop publishing package.

That said, you would be better served with a true desktop publishing program such as Adobe Illustrator.

Russ (Permanent GUEST)


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: open mike
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 01:09 AM

many recording programs have a program to produce "album covers" that print to the correct size for "jewel cases"

many packaging options are avaialbe today...such as cardboard and re- colycled c.d. covers. I got one today with an origami-like folded paper fortune telling device inside. One company that duplicates c.d.'s is Oasis and another is Discmaker...these folks could help.

these folks http://www.oasiscd.com/ also produce a sam;ler disc with prime cuts from other discs they create...and they provide them to radio d.j.'s who prefer certain types of music...so that they might reach radio audiences...a great promotion tool.

http://www.discmakers.com/indexDigipak200.asp these folks can do 1000 c.d. for less that $1 per disc. see the site for more info.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 05:03 AM

Can you offer any kind of incentive for pre-paying? Some labels offer some kind of freebie bonus for the first 50 to pre-pay.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: GUEST,Millindale
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 06:08 AM

mg, Microsoft Publisher has templates for CD inserts I'm sure. Another piece of software to have a look at is Cover Pro. Can't remember offhand who it's by but a Google search would find it I'm sure.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Will Fly
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 06:23 AM

Many modern inkjet printers have software which allows you to print both CD/DVD jewel case inserts and the disc labels (for which, of course, you need printable discs).

Last year I invested in a decent Epson inkjet printer - CD printing and wi-fi built in - plus a 1:3 disc copier, some blank DVD and CD discs, glossy inkjet paper and some ultra-thin jewel cases. Once everything has been set up, it's a simple, if tedious, business to produce the finished product. You can, of course, get a more professional product by giving the whole job to a company - but it probably requires a lump sum. You pays your money and you...


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 07:20 AM

Take a look at Roxio Media Easy Creator (available as a free download). It will do multi-page CD inserts. It also does those disc-shaped printed labels, but some people have had trouble with those I never have).

Put me on the list, too.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: jacqui.c
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 08:57 AM

I would be very interested in contributing here.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Anne Lister
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 10:27 AM

My last album was mostly financed by very generous prepayment from a wide variety of people (and a lot of Mudcatters!). I put bonuses in for those who paid for more than one album and made sure that subscribers also had a couple of sneak preview MP3s.

All the other bits of CD production are relatively easy to find - most CD duplication websites will include templates for artwork, and you can download them even if you're not using their services.

PM me if you've got any questions you think I can help with.


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: open mike
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 12:10 PM

HP now makes PRINTER THAT WILL PRINT DIRECTLY ON PRINTABLE CD'S
(EPSON USED TO BE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT PRINTED ON THESE)


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Stewart
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 12:21 PM

I use Adobe InDesign for the cover, insert and CD printing. It's a professional graphics program, which produces an output acceptable by commercial printers (MS Publisher, Powerpoint and others of that type are not).

Yes, it's an expensive program ($400 or $200 with an educational discount). But you don't have to buy it. If you're a quick study, you can download a free 30-day trial program from Adobe and do it in that time frame. I've done that in the past, but now have purchased my own program (I also use it for posters and other design projects).

If you want your CDs to sell, you need a professional-looking package.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Prepaying for CDs
From: Deckman
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 12:55 PM

Merry Morning Mary ... Check your e-mail ... I have some thoughts that I'll offer privatly. bob nelson


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