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Songs You Can't Sing for Crying

paula t 24 Jan 10 - 06:33 PM
Lanfranc 24 Jan 10 - 07:50 PM
Jim Carroll 24 Jan 10 - 07:53 PM
Michael Harrison 24 Jan 10 - 07:55 PM
Artful Codger 24 Jan 10 - 08:27 PM
Callie 24 Jan 10 - 08:31 PM
GUEST,Gerry 24 Jan 10 - 08:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jan 10 - 09:49 PM
MGM·Lion 24 Jan 10 - 10:12 PM
Bill D 24 Jan 10 - 10:40 PM
olddude 24 Jan 10 - 11:05 PM
Deckman 24 Jan 10 - 11:14 PM
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Phil Edwards 25 Jan 10 - 08:49 AM
Susanne (skw) 25 Jan 10 - 10:34 AM
vectis 25 Jan 10 - 11:04 AM
fretless 25 Jan 10 - 11:12 AM
Phil Edwards 25 Jan 10 - 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: paula t
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 06:33 PM

"Meet on the ledge" when sung at the end of the fairport Cropredy convention every year always leaves me with a tear in my eye.

"Reunion Hill" by Richard Shindell is a very moving song. It took a lot of time before I could sing it without breaking down.

"She Saw Him Smile" by Harvey Andrews is one I have been trying to sing for years, but still can't get all the way through .A poignant song with a heartbreakingly beautiful melody.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Lanfranc
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:50 PM

The best version I ever heard of "No Man's Land" was by Alex Campbell, how I wish he'd recorded it!

I still weep silently over "Sand and Water" sung by Beth Neilsen Chapman, "What is Life" from Orpheo et Euridice sung by Kathleen Ferrier or "When I am laid in earth" from Purcell's Dido & Aeneas. Possibly a sign of going to too many funerals these days. "My Way", howver, leaves me cold.

Of songs I sing, "Last Year's Love", Michael Smith's "Dutchman" and Carole King's "Goin' Back" can still produce prickly eyeballs.

Alan


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:53 PM

"What, no "Joy of Living" by MacColl?"
"Joy of Living' is a celebratory song, and far too often taken as a dirge.
Grief and sadness should not be the only emotions evoked by folk song.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:55 PM

Gee, I'm one of those fools who can cry at the drop of a hat so it might not be fair to jump in here, but here are some songs that bring tears to me when I try to sing or listen to them.

Harry Chapin - "Corey's Coming" and "Tangled-up Puppet"
Tommy Sands - "Good-bye Love (There's No One Leaving)"
Kathy Mattea - "Where've You Been"
Michael Smith - "Dutchman" (I don't cry, but it is not uncommon for
                folks to do so when I sing it)
Steve Goodman - "My Old Man"
Unknown Author - "Hector Gonzalez" (I heard it by Jim Salestrom)

That's probably enough, though, "Achy, Breaky Heart" will make me cry as well, but I'm not going there. Cheers,...............mwh


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Artful Codger
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 08:27 PM

I'm a soft touch, so a lot of songs choke me up when I sing them (pretty pathetic when you're the only one misting up.) I have the most trouble with Russian songs, like "Я встретил вас" ("I met you") and, most recently, "Где ты, где ты, отчий дом?" ("Where are you, home of my father?")--my eyes are still wet.

Besides the oft-cited "No Man's Land", one I struggled with for the longest time was Elvis Costello's "The Scarlet Tide" (from Cold Mountain). "The Ride of Paul Venarez" ("Billy Venero") also took me a long time to sing all the way through without breaking down.

Heck, I still get teary when Little Joe, the wrangler is found beneath his horse, "mashed to a pulp".


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Callie
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 08:31 PM

Paul Simon's "Hearts and Bones"


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 08:47 PM

I never had any trouble listening to Tam Lin until someone on the radio (I think it was Phyl Lobl) explained that the bit about holding on to Tam Lin even when the fairy queen turns him into red hot iron and such is about what we have to do in our relationships with those we love even when they are acting their most unloveable. Now it's hard for me to listen to that part of the song without breaking up, and I wouldn't try singing it.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:49 PM

There are several gospel songs that can break me down. Without That Night is one (and I wrote it, so you'd think I could get through it.)
My friend Frankie sings He Looked Beyond My Faults and Saw My Needs and when the Gospel Messengers were together, at any one time one of the three of us would choke up and have to turn away at one point in the song. Thre's also a song Dorothy Love Coates sings that I rarely can hear without being reduced to tears.

And then there's Old Dog Shep.

Just kidding...

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 10:12 PM

"Now I bring up my sons in a small caravan
For the cottage where my roots were put down
Has been sold by the farmer to a rich city man
Where he spend a few weekends from Town"

Peter Bellamy: Farewell to the Land


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE TERROR TIME (Ewan MacColl)
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 10:40 PM

a song about the Traveling People:


THE TERROR TIME
(Ewan MacColl)

The heather will fade and the bracken will die
Streams will run cold and clear
And the small birds will be going, and it's then you will be knowing
That the terror time is near.

Whaur will ye gan an' whaur will ye bide
Noo that the work's a' done
And the fairmer disnae need ye, and the cooncils winnae heed ye
And the terror time is come?

The woods give no shelter and the trees they are bare
Snow is falling all around
And the children they are crying, for the bed on which they're lying
Is frozen to the ground

When you need the warmth of your own human kind
You move near a town and then
The sight o' you's offending, an' the police they soon are sending
An' you're on the road again.

Whaur will ye gan an' whaur will ye bide
Noo that the work's a' done
And the fairmer disnae need ye, and the cooncils winnae heed ye
And the terror time is come?


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 11:05 PM

Any song by Harry Chapin
(miss you my friend)


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Deckman
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 11:14 PM

When the late David Spence died in a helicopter crash in California in 1966, many of us sang at a two evening fund raising wake for him at "The Drinking Gourd" ... in San Francisco. The singers were many and the donations were generous. Each night we ended the singing with "The Parting Glass." I have NOT been able to sing the song sonce. bob(deckman)nelson


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Sawzaw
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 11:20 PM

A real heartbreaker at a funeral. It was played at my Mothers Funeral.

Will The Circle Be Unbroken

I was standing by my window
On a cold and cloudy day
When I saw the hearse come rolling
For to carry my mother away.

Will the circle be unbroken
By and by Lord, by and by
There's a better home awaiting
In the sky Lord, in the sky.

Well, I went back home, home was lonely
For my mother she was gone
And all my family there was cryin'
For out home felt sad and alone.

Will the circle be unbroken
By and by Lord, by and by
There's a better home awaiting
In the sky Lord, in the sky.

Undertaker, undertaker, undertaker
Won't you please drive slow
For that lady you are haulin'
Lord, I hate to see her go.

Will the circle be unbroken
By and by Lord, by and by
There's a better home awaiting
In the sky Lord, in the sky.

There's a better home awaiting
In the sky Lord, in the sky...


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 08:49 AM

Forgot one (thanks, Bill). I've never tried the Terror Time, but this Christmas just gone I did do the Moving-On Song. There's one verse I can hardly get through in my head without crying, let alone out loud -

The winter sky was hung with stars
Oh, but one shone brighter than the rest...


(Hanky please.)

Ed - why Willie O'Winsbury, if it's something you can talk about?


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 10:34 AM

Jim Carroll, songs that move you (me, at any rate) to tears don't necessarily have to be sad. As has been said before, it's more a matter of mood and atmosphere, so that any reasonably serious song is a potential tear-jerker. 'Joy of Living' has moved me to tears at times, so has Dave Sudbury's 'King of Rome' - usually in the car where I've got time to listen closely to Iain MacKintosh's version, NOT June Tabor's terribly mannered one!


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: vectis
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:04 AM

I was fine with "Goodby My Nancy O" until Eric Bogle explained it while I was in the audience. Now I can't even think of the blooming song without 'filling up' as I recall my own emotions as my boys emigrated.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: fretless
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:12 AM

Not many O-T string band songs have that sort of impact, but back in teh old days I had a friend nearly fail to get through Bob Coltman's BEFORE THEY CLOSE THE MINSTREL SHOW because of the sobbing.

There are lots the conjure tears when I listen to them; BPWM is high on that list.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:23 AM

songs that move you (me, at any rate) to tears don't necessarily have to be sad

"Who knows where the time goes?" Might have been different if I'd heard it before the writer's death, mind you.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: mrmoe
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:42 AM

I learned last summer of the death of childhood friend "Corky" Charlton.....I was playing a week or so later at a club in Easthampton, Massachusetts and without thought I started one of my favorite Ian Tyson songs - These Friends of Mine....I hadn't performed the song in years and hadn't the slightest idea why I wanted to do it this night.....halfway through it became clear to me why it came to memory and I must admit that finishing the song was extremely difficult.....I have also (in the past) had trouble with Eric Andersen's Cross Your Mind.....


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Barbara
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:56 AM

Jerry, I forgot about "the Master of the Sheepfold". I often have trouble getting through that one. Something about knowing you are welcome to come home whether you are perfect or not gets to my tear ducts every time.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,KP
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 12:37 PM

Martin Simpson's Song about his Dad 'You were never any good with money'

Especially the last verse!

'you taught me how to love a song and all you knew of nature's ways, the greatest gifts I've ever known and I use them every day'

Here he is singing it at the Albert Hall
Never any good with Money

KP


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 01:11 PM

Although an irreligious ne'er-do-well by both birth and inclination I nevertheless find myself attending Holy Mass from time to time, chiefly during the Easter Triduum where most things make we weep like a baby. The Procession of the Cross: This is the Wood of the Cross on which my redeemer hung; come, come, let us adore, come, come, let us adore, the Saviour of the world.. The old spiritual Were You There When they Crucified My Lord? is likewise guaranteed to waste me, as do such things as When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (though WAV's rendering has almost entirely ruined it for me) and My Song is Love Unknown.

At Christmas, I can't sing Silent Night for blubbing, but only in the context of worship at Midnight Mass, where things take on a very different hue. Whilst temporarily resident at Worth Abbey a decade or so back I became addicted to Gelineau Psalm Tones; his special for Psalm 110 is still with me yet, but I can't get through it without choking up.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 01:35 PM

John Masefield's poem, The Loch Acrae does it to me too.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 02:54 PM

Pip, I think I'd crack up on Willy O'Winsbury for several reasons.

First - one thinks "Oh dear, this lad's going to finish up like Matty Groves"!

Next one is rather impressed with Janet's father because he's open enough to admit "Well, I can understand why my daughter fell for you".

Then our hero is indignant when Dad tries to bribe him into marriage and says "Look, I'm going to marry her anyway but you can stuff your land".

So the emotional roller coaster ends on a happy note, which always gets me - I'm an optimist. Also the attitudes of the protagonists are both understandable and honourable.

When you couple this with the aristocracy who have sung it - Dick Gaughan and Richard Thompson for instance - and the way Richard used the particular tune I love for "Farewell Farewell" after the death of his girlfriend - well, gets me every time! (sniffs, blows nose...)


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: autoharpbob
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 03:03 PM

Currently "Rosemary's Sister" by Huw Williams and "The only life Gloria knows" by Anthony John Clarke.

Used to be James Taylor's "Fire and Rain" till I read that it was NOT about a girlfriend who died.

"The Band played WM" and "Green Fields of France" of course as well. I saw Eric Bogle do BOTH of these in his set at Southwell this year - wiped half the audience out!


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,suegorgeous away from it all
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 03:54 PM

Autoharpbob - according to Wikipedia references to interviews with JT, Fire and Rain IS (partly) about a girlfriend who died.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Suegorgeous
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 03:57 PM

... and Fire and Rain used to make me cry, after the suicide of a friend called Suzanne, following release from a mental institution.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Soldier boy
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 06:45 PM

"The Band played Waltzing Matilda" (Eric Bogle)
"Willie McBride (The Green Fields of France)"
and "Will the circle be unbroken" all get my vote for sure.

As well as....

The Fields of Athenry
Carrick Fergus
Goodnight Irene
Black is the colour..
The Soldier (Harvey Andrews)
A mon like thee (The Oldham Tinkers)
Little Pot Stove
Dirty Old Town (Ewan MacColl)
Where have all the flowers gone
The Streets of London (Ralph McTell)
Bridge over troubled waters (Simon and Garfunkle)

Even songs I first heard in early childhood like:

"When I wish upon a star" (in the original 'Pinnocio' film)
and "Somewhere Over the Rainbow"(Judy Garland in 'The Wizard of Oz')

For many of the above songs it depends on the occasion and the people present as to how the songs hit your emotions.
If there is a good lead singer or if there is a bunch of people that just sing their hearts out and all the harmonies start to work together - Wow! - they always blow me away and tears will flow.

I am often moved by lyrics/tunes/films/books by the power of the brilliant soul that created them..and thank God I am because it means that I am human and can be moved to tears..and I love that feeling! And as a bloke I am not in any way ashamed to say that.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 06:47 PM

"Carole King's "Goin' Back" can still produce prickly eyeballs"... and when it is sung by Dusty Springfield, who had a terrible life herself, it really is heartbreaking.

At one time I chose that song to be sung at my funeral... until I read that Dusty Springfield had had it done at hers. It is DEEPLY touching on several levels of emotionality :-(

mp


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 07:32 PM

I know the history of Fields of Athenry and that makes it even more powerful. It wasn't just made up out of whole cloth.
That chorus with the right harmony is beautiful.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 07:54 PM

Sawzaw mentioned "Will The Circle Be Unbroken"

One night in Oct. 1978, a couple days after Maybelle Carter died, this man come into the Red Fox Inn in Bethesda, MD, and played that song....on one of Mother Maybelle's autoharps.

He got thru it, but there weren't many dry eyes in the place.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE DADDY SONG (Bob Clayton)
From: Songbob
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 08:43 PM

An interesting subject. For me, sometimes it's one song, sometimes it's one singer, one song (sung by someone else, it'd be fine). But for my singing, the Ruth Pelham one mentioned above brings to mind one I wrote for a Bob Franke songwriting class at Pinewoods. I lamented that I kept rewriting as I wrote, and over-intellectualizing, so he told me to write from a child's perspective, about something emotional.

This is the result, and I've never been able to sing it all the way through:

        The Daddy Song

[Tune: "Cannonball Blues" ("Solid Gone")]

My Daddy left us, he left my Mom and me,
What a rotten thing to do to a little kid like me,
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.
Momma says my Daddy won't be coming back,
What kind of a man would treat a little kid like that?
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.

Cho:        

I feel like crying 'cause he's gone,
So much like crying 'cause he's gone,
My Daddy's gone.

I hate my Daddy, I hope he goes to Hell!
I'm not supposed to say that word, so don't you go and tell.
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.
When I get all growed up, when I get real big,
I'll never, ever, ever do the same thing to my kid.
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.

Cho:

Dad said he would take me to the movies and the Zoo,
But when I saw him falling down, it scared me clear all through.
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.
The fireman and police man came, and they took him away;
Now my Momma's crying, and there's nothing I can say.
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.

Cho:

I don't know what to think, like it's something that I did
To make him want to go away and leave his little kid.
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.
Now my Momma's crying, and I don't know what to do,
I might do it all again, and make her leave me, too.
He's gone, my Daddy's gone.

Cho:


Copyright (C)1990, Bob Clayton


Another song I would have trouble with is "The Boy Who Live Here Has Gone to War," from Sara Cleveland (and Colleen), but I've never learned it, since I can't even get through it hearing it as such.

And I recall a gathering of some of us here where we got into mining songs, and it was all I could do to finish "Sully's Pail."

But of songs I know, the one above is the worst for me.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 08:45 PM

Susanne:
"Jim Carroll, songs that move you (me, at any rate) to tears don't necessarily have to be sad."
I totally agree, including The Joy of Living.
I have been to four funerals where it was sung as part of the service (including Ewan's, where a recording of him singing was used) and each time it hasn't failed to move me to tears; the song and the circumstances in which it was sung.
My comment was aimed at the dirge-like approach by several singers; which I believe is totally contrary to the sentiment of the song.
On the other hand - Green Fields of France - no crying matter -
Jim Carroll

Willie Macbride You Bastard You.
Oh, youse know that big long song about Willie MacBride,
Well, to tell yis the god's truth, it turns me inside,
You'll hear it on the Shankhill, you'll hear't on the Falls,
And mostly from people who can't sing at all,
You go out to the pub on a Saturday night,
For a pint and the crack, a-and things are all right
'Till some boy with his shirt out
Slumps down by your side —and says:
"Zing-zzz z'wunn zbouzz Wllee Mmm-Bride,"

Ah, you say you don't know it (but this will not do)
For his plan all along has been to sing it to you.
He knocks over your drink, and takes off in a key
That wasn't constructed for Pava-Rotti;
And with the lines grinding on, Oh, the horror gets worse,
As it slowly sinks in—that he knows every verse.
With his arm round your shoulder, by now he's your friend—and
He's determined to sing this damn thing to the end.

CHORUS:
Did he sing the song badly?
Did they gulp their pints madly?
Did we all fall asleep before we'd finished our round?
Did the barstaff cry, "Last drinks" to stir us?
Did the punters cry, "Thank God it's o-o-o-ver"?

You slip out to the jacks for a quart'r of an hour,
Kill time at the TV set out in the Bar,
And then you sneak back thinking he might have tired,
But he's still choking on gas, tangled up in barbed wire;
And for ten minutes more he continues this rant
Again, and again, and again till you can't
Care that he's up to his oxters in gutters in trench—es, or give
Two tupp'ny damns where the red poppies dance.
CHORUS

Oh, Willie MacBride why the hell did you die?
The trouble you'd have saved if you'd come back alive.
If you'd got a good job, or signed on the b'roo—
We wouldn't have to endure this ould mush about you.
Aye but maybe it's better for you that you're dead
With the green fields of France piled up over your head;
For the trouble you've caused us since that day you died,
Oh, rusty shrapnel's too good for you, Willie MacBride.
CHORUS

And you, Eric Bogle, just what was your game?
White crosses mark out the road to your fame.
Could you not guess the Fureys might drive us insane?
Can you not call them off?—Jasus, we're not to blame!
And why d'you complain about shellfire and smoke?
Sure with PA and cig'rettes, the pubs are no joke.
Where we drink to his mem'ry each weekend we're broke
Makin' Willie Mac Bride's fans consumptive ould soaks.
CHORUS


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Bernie
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:05 PM

Don Williams "Old coyote town",written,[possibly]by the great Bob McDill...maybe Don too...not sure...
....written about an old-timer living out his days alone in a dying town in west Texas....
"like horses,the pickups are parked out in front of a cafe that dont'
need a name...as old men rock,and tumbleweeds roll,past the boarded-up
windows on Main...

" and the interstate rumbles like a river of steel,to a rythym that won't ever slow down
as cars,and trucks,and time pass by that old coyote town...

Daddy falls asleep in the living room,on the sofa with the TV on..
sometimes he waits for a call from me,sometimes he waits too long..
but I still think of those people,and that place that they love...
how much longer will they be around??...
'till it's "ashes to ashes,dust to dust"for their old coyote town...

...no tumbleweed where I come from,but that's my father in that song...I learned it when it came out;never been able to get through it,never will....


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 10:13 AM

Strange though it might read, the "Cherry Tree Carol" has me choked up.

"The Lambs on the Green Hills".


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Cats
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 01:40 PM

Home Boys Home.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 01:48 PM

Porter Waggoner sang one titled Jeannie's Afraid of the dark. A real tear jerker. My ex used to call these songs emotional rape.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Amergin
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 02:14 PM

Tom Lehrer's Hold Your Hand In Mine...is such a lovely sentiment, makes me blubber every time.


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY SON JOHN (Tom Paxton)
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 05:08 PM

Bob (Deckman) Nelson and I rarely do "cause" songs, so when we do, it generally has a fair impact on our regular audiences. When we put the program together for our reunion concert in October of 2007, we scheduled two songs toward the end of the program. Just go right into them without introductions and then say nothing afterward, just let the songs speak for themselves.

I was going to sing
The Green Fields of France
(No Man's Land)
(Words and Music by Eric Bogle)

Well, how do you do, young Willie McBride,
Do you mind if I sit here down by your graveside?
And rest for awhile in the warm summer sun
I've been walking all day, and I'm nearly done.

Well, I see by your gravestone, you were only nineteen
When you joined the great fallen in nineteen-sixteen
Well I hope you died quickly, and I hope you died clean
Or poor Willie Mcbride, was it slow and obscene?

CHO:
Did they beat the drums slowly? Did they play the fife lowly?
Did they play the dead march as they lowered you down?
Did the band play 'The Last Post' in chorus?
Did the pipes play 'The Flowers of the Forest'?

Did you leave a young wife or a sweetheart behind?
In that loving heart are you forever enshrined?
And although you died back in nineteen-sixteen
In that faithful heart are you always nineteen?

Or are you a stranger without even a name
And closed in forever behind some glass pane,
In an old photograph, torn and tattered, and stained,
All faded and yellow in a brown leather frame.?
CHO:

The sun shines bright on the green fields of France
The warm summer breeze makes the red poppies dance
The trenches have vanished long under the plow
There's no gas, no barb wire, there's no guns firing now

But here in this graveyard, it's still no-man's land.
The countless white crosses stand mute in the sand,
To man's blind indifference to his fellow man
And a whole generation all butchered and damned
CHO:

I can't help but wonder, young Willie McBride
Do those that lie here know why that they died?
Did they really believe when they answered the call,
Did they really believe that this war would end wars?

Well, the sorrow, the suffering, the glory, the pain
And the killing and dying were all done in vain.
For young Willy McBride it all happened again:
And again, and again, and again, and again...

CHO:
Did they beat the drum slowly? Did they play the fife lowly?
Did they play the dead march as they lowered you down?
Did the band play 'The Last Post' in chorus?
Did the pipes play 'The Flowers of the Forest'?
And Bob was going to follow with
My Son John
Words and Music by Tom Paxton

My son, John, was a good boy, and good to me.
When we had hard times, well, he stood by me.
We were in work and out of work and on the go.
If he had complaints, I never heard of one.
He would pitch in and help me like a full grown man.
My son, John. John, my son.

My son, John, went to college and he made his way.
Had to earn every penny, but he paid his way.
He worked summers and holidays and through the year,
And it was no easy struggle that he won.
But he laughed at the ones who thought he had it hard.
My son, John. John, my son.

My son, John, got his uniform and went away.
With a band playing marches, he was sent away.
And he wrote me a letter, when he had the time.
He was loosing his buddies one by one.
And I prayed, and tried not to read between the lines.
My son, John. John, my son.

My son, John, came home yesterday; he's here to stay.
Not a word, to his father, have I heard him say.
He seems glad to be home, but I can't be sure.
When I ask him what he'd seen and done.
He went up to his bedroom, and he closed the door.
My son, John, John my son.
He went up to his bedroom, and he closed the door.
My son, John, John my son.
I'm afraid I had to wimp out. As we approached this part of the program, I knew I could never get through "The Green Fields of France" without getting severely choked up, especially knowing what Bob was going to follow it with. So I just whispered to Bob, "I can't do it!" He understood, nodded, and went into "My Son John."

Very effective song, which he did very well, and the message undoubtedly got across. Actually, the two together like that might have been a bit too much.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 05:17 PM

That line...and it all happened again, and again, and again gets to me evrytime.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 05:21 PM

"There but for Fortune" because of the writer's great humanity.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 05:24 PM

Yeah, that's the point where I probably would have lost it, if I hadn't before that.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GRex
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 04:35 AM

For me it's 'The Last of The Great Whales' (The Last Leviathan)    by Andy Barnes.

                GRex


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 04:45 AM

Although it is not strictly a folk song, and I am not a christian, the hymn "Be Thou my Vision" has me in tears every time alike.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:04 AM

Yes, Bryn - isn't it an old Gaelic melody which might account for it ?


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:13 AM

Possibly, Mac, but in "Ancient & Modern" the tune is "Slane", composed 1913.

A close variant is the tune to "Banks of the Bann".


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Jan 10 - 02:44 AM

'Willie More': esp the version which ends "The last heard of him he was in Montreal, Where he died of a broken heart", the precision of which I find peculiarly poignant for some reason.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Sapper in the Far North
Date: 28 Jan 10 - 06:11 AM

Home, Lads, Home.

Took me several months of practice to be able to sing it and occasionally I still crack up.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 28 Jan 10 - 06:16 AM

"The Ladies go Dancing at Whitsun"

It has resonances with family stories for me. Never met the lady, but she lost her boyfriend in the Great War, married late in life, lost her pension as a result and he died within 18 months. Never met the lady.


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Subject: RE: Songs You Can't Sing for Crying
From: Micca
Date: 28 Jan 10 - 06:31 AM

Breaking up while trying to sing? How about this, theres a song (It hasnt got a complete tune yet,) I can't even READ without breaking up!! And I wrote it!!! It came about in a curious way, MMario and I were both looking for the words of a song mentioned in a series of books we had both read in which only the chorus was ever given, after much searching we concluded that that was all there was and someone would have to write the rest of the song. I had a try , I dont know where I got what came out on the paper but it was and is scary, someday maybe we will get a tune and a bridge for the verses, I know how the tune for the chorus goes but ssome time will need the tune for the verse and bridge.


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