Non Folk Session at Warwick

Subject: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 08:26 AM

On the Saturday (24 the July)of the Warwick Folk Festival there will be a session of non Folk music incorporating 20s - 30s, Jazz, Blues,
Music Hall and Country and Western, Music and Song, which will be hosted by Will Fly and myself. No rules, any instruments,just come along and enjoy yourself. There will be guest(booked) artists popping in during the session. It has not been tried before at Warwick,it would be lovely to see some of you there.
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 06:53 AM

We have now received confirmation of this event
It will be Sat 24th July The Millwright Arms Warwick
12 (midday) to 3 PM
No admission charge
I hope some of you can make it.
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 10:24 AM

If I am not stewarding &/or dancing &/or sessioning. Warwick has so much going on!
Millwrights Arms
map out towards Leamington, past St John's Museum. Nice looking pub, used to have a regular session.

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: GUEST,Aspara gus
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 01:17 PM

I don't get it. Why would I pay 60 squid for a ticket for a Folk festival and then go an listen to Not Folk Music. Folk is a pretty big umbrella - but Jazz! I'm with Alexei Sayle when he said 'there are two kinds of jazz - and they are both crap !'

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 01:59 PM

Look forward to not seeing you.
This is part of the street festival ,there is no charge. There are plenty of Folk events for your sixty quid. This is for musicians that enjoy folk, but also other music.
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Will Fly
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 02:12 PM

Al and I were up at the Bradfield Weekend last year, and helped to host a session at the Royal at Dungworth on the Saturday lunchtime. A number of the "folkies" there joined in with gusto with some tunes from the 30s and 40s and clearly enjoyed the contrast with the mainly traditional content of the weekend.

As Al has said above, it's free and is part of the street festival - no charge - come or stay away as you please. As for folk festivals being nothing but folk, a quick look at, say, the recent Cambridge Folk Festival should disabuse you of that. As for Alexei Sayle and his opinion on jazz, who gives a toss.

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Leadfingers
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 02:26 PM

Shades of Bill Caddicks 'Rough Music' sessions at Bracknell Festivals
where the idea was to perform things you would NOT do in a Folk club ! Might almost be worth a run up for th afternoon !

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Dave Earl
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 02:36 PM

Well I shall be at the Festival (Stewarding)and, if there's nothing more that I want to do at that time I might wander over to that session.

I used to attend the "Anti-Shanty" sessions at Shanty festival so I don't have a problem with the concept of a "Non-Folk" session.

Will and Alan are from my part of the world anyway.

Dave

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: GUEST,Rich
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 02:41 PM

But why go to a folk festival to do this? Can't you stay at home and go to your local pub and do it? Or (how about this for an idea), go to a jazz festival! I hope I won't see you at Bradfield this year.

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Mavis Enderby
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 03:07 PM

Be there if I could - from your list I'm an almost exclusively non-folk musician myself! I suspect it will be very popular...

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 03:25 PM

I will be at Bradfield Rich but I shall probably be playing mostly folk music as both Will and I do. I cannot understand this aggression. Folk consists of all types of music some only recently written, do you walk out every time there is a bit of music you think might be an old rock or jazz number ?
Loosen up ,it is a bit of fun outside of the festival walls.
One of the best and most accepted of past Folk Bands were "The Hop "
who went down a storm at the Late Night Extra at Sidmouth ,their style was Jazz/ Folk.
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 06:10 PM

I must stress this is not an Anti Folk Session, I have been performing folk now for nearly forty years, it is just something slightly different to what you would normally expect, but interesting to note that at the last five folk clubs I have attended there has been an element of non Folk in every one. Recently a lovely version of "Fools Rush in" sang beautifully by a young lady with guitar accompaniment.
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Leadfingers
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 06:22 PM

Note that the objectionable types are Hiding Behind GUEST status !!
Folkies never used to be so narrow minded - Except for the Dance/song Schism , and the Trad/Contemporary schism and the With/without intruments Schism And all the other silly schisms !

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 08:59 PM

I could really enjoy debating this one - if there was any point!

Suffice it to say that I would never accuse Cambridge of being a FOLK festival - but given the time and opportunity and money I might well have enjoyed some of the artistes they have had over the years.

Tee hee

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:00 AM

A festival weekend offers various forms of entertainment and this is just a three hour session for those who like to play folk music (as we do) but also other types of music. What debate is required for that. At Whitby a number of Folk Musicians formed a Rock and Roll band. It was packed out with crowds outside listening to the music and people inside dancing to it. It was a fantastic success and great fun. It was full of folk singers and performers. It was not considered a threat to the folk World, but a fun evenings entertainment.Peta Web and the Titanic Syncopators with Tony Engle Saxophone (great X concertina player and part of Webbs Wonders)has been playing the Folk Clubs performing 20s to 50s numbers. No one has pointed out that shock horror she is not singing Folk Music.
I agree Leadfingers that once again a few people on this site love to stir things up behind a mask of secrecy.
Al (not masked)

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Cllr
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:14 AM

Sounds Brilliant Alan, I may pop in myself to the session just to have a listen.
Just one question though... What is non- folk?

I'll get my coat, Cllr

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Will Fly
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 05:37 AM

Coincidentally, I was playing with three other members of our ceilidh band (Unreel) as the main guests at Stuart Reed's monthly Acoustic Music Session in Brighton last night. Our set list included, among other things, several traditional tunes - and some (non-folk?) compositions such as:

Dimming Of The Day (Richard Thompson)
Da Slockit Lite (Tom Anderson)
The Ashokan Farewell (Jay Ungar)
The Spoot O'Skerry Reel (Ian Burns)
Waltzing's For Dreamers (Richard Thompson)
The Bay Tree (Andy Cutting)
In Continental Mood (Andy Cutting)
Flat World (Andy Cutting) - yes, we like Andy Cutting
Glen Kabul (Old Blind Dog)
Niel Gow's Lament On The Death Of His Second Wife (Niel Gow)

Loads of applause from all concerned - a very pleasant evening, if I may say so. So don't get your coat, Cllr! :-)

The title of this thread is perhaps slightly misleading - in the Warwick programme the session is advertised as:

20s to 60s session: popular music from the mid-20th century. All genres and styles welcome!

There's no earthly reason to exclude folk music from this - and nearly all the tunes I've listed above in last night's Brighton set would fit the session description. What I'm personally hoping for is three hours of friendship and fun (and beer), welcoming all comers who want to play some acoustic music of their choice in an informal and inclusive atmosphere. I don't think that this three-hour slot is exactly subversive, given the scope and size of the overall festival!

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 06:59 AM

Thanks Cllr we will be pleased to see you. Thanks also for your message of support , much appreciated.
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:32 PM

Alan do potential artists have to book a spot or is it just turn up?
My son who is non folk is interested in displaying his wares.

Frank

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Will Fly
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:55 PM

It's just turn up as you are. No booking required. As it's a session I hope he won't mind if people join in!

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: Alan Day
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 06:02 PM

We will look after him Frug,what does he play?
Al

Subject: RE: Non Folk Session at Warwick
From: GUEST,frug
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 07:03 PM

He's a singer songwriter with semi acoustic guitar. Powerful voice and don't fuck with me lyrics. He's developing a strong local following. Oh the joys of youth !!