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Subject: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:09 PM

There are official warnings of 18" to 24" of snow coming Friday and Saturday but I have heard rumors supposedly coming from two different government sources that we could get up to 36"

I guess this applies to the Shenandoah valley points north also.

Are you prepared?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:15 PM

Yup. I'll watch the news reports from here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:18 PM

We are as prepared as we get. It seems like it's gonna be wet & heavy....which means traffic hassles and broken limbs. I've filled the bird feeders and have a plastic tarp to cover the car...(makes it a 'bit' easier to clean off later...

We have food and don't need to go out, since I am sure our Mid-Winter folk festival will be canceled.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:22 PM

(One year, about 20 years ago, we had to dig our way IN to the festival after a snow...but we held it, and folks came out. But for a number of years now, it has been in a county school, and when THEY decide 'schools are closed', the janitors don't come to work and anything scheduled for the buildings is off.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:22 PM

A blizzard is more like 6 foot drifts in 2 hours.
I think we will get a foot of fluff over 8 hours.
At least I would prefer a dusting to a roof busting blizzard. opps did i spit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:27 PM

From what I understand a blizzard designation is given when a storm qualifies on three points:

Velocity
Amount of snow
Temperature

I remember several years back when I was touring by train through the American midwest and on to Canada and back across that what they were calling a blizzard in the Chicago to Detroit region didn't qualify.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:28 PM

Washington Post:

nowmageddon: Snowstorm likely to be historic
Crippling accumulations over 1 to 2 feet may be common


* Winter Storm Warning Friday morning through Saturday evening *

It is hard to believe that we're about to see another storm like we saw in December -- usually a once in several year occurrence. But it's real and it's becoming increasingly likely that a historic event is in the cards. If you have any doubts, check out this afternoon's satellite shot showing amazing moisture feeds into what is already a gigantic system. The time is now to make final preparations as we are less than 24 hours out from the start.

FORECAST IN DETAIL

Through tonight: The calm before the monster storm continues as skies trend cloudier. Lows in the mid-to-upper 20s.

Tomorrow (Friday): We won't warm much with clouds and precipitation inbound. Look for highs in the mid 30s, falling back to and below freezing as snow gets underway by the late morning or early afternoon. By evening, snow should be falling at a moderate pace with at least 3-5" of accumulation common across the area and rates increasing into the night.

Dangerous weather: This will be a high-impact storm any way you cut it. Heavy wet snow will create difficult digging out conditions and may lead to numerous power outages. To minimize the risk of injury during digging, it is best to clear snow often. Wind and near-blizzard (or even blizzard) conditions may occur overnight Friday and into Saturday, Blizzard Warnings are already up to our east and we did have them issued in December. Be prepared to be stuck where you are for at least 24-48 hours, if not longer as suggested through a message delivered by the state of Virginia. And if all else fails, check out this Snopocalypse D.C. web site for further instructions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:28 PM

Yeah, and I am purdy pissed off about it...

We just had 22 inches in Decemeber and it took me three intense days of tractor duty to dig out... The problem with where we are is that we are on the western side of the Blue Ridge at 1700 feet and when these things come in from the west we get hammered... The other problem is that our drive way is close to a half a mile long and narrow whyich means having to remove large depths of snow one front loader bucket at a time and backing up the hill and dumping the snow in the few places where it can be stashed... It amounts to hundreds and hundreds of buckets of snow... And my Kabota has no cab so it's cold and the snow just covers me and the tractor... But...

...I got beer and a little moonshine left... I got lots of firewood stacked up safe in the mudroom... Hopefully we won't lose electricity but I'll be fillin' the bath tub in the mornin' just in case we gotta have water for flushin' toilets, etc...

Worst part about all this is that I am supposed to close on the sale of the spec house I built down below a week from today... Ol' hillbilly really needs that to happen...

But, I guess we are ready... I've been thru these before... 31 inches back in the mountains of Wes Ginny...

But if it wants to go somewhere else that would suit me fine...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:30 PM

My weather watcher program says "heavy snow/wind". That still does not mean blizzard to me... I lived in Kansas, and have seen maybe 2 'blizzards', which was reserved for heavy snow coming at you sideways....

still, the system is supposed to be moving 'fast', so I supposed more wind than usual is possible.

(Oh...in Kansas, they didn't even say 'snow storm' unless there was a lot of snow and quite a bit of wind. Here, they call anything over 2 inches a 'storm'.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:41 PM

I wish I could post my pics. We have had as much as 1.62m in less than 12 hours with wind since I had camera... worse before that when I was a lad... I think I recall. As a lad, I had to crawl out the back door, put on my snowshoes and shovel just so we could see out the front room window.

Now, that ain't as bad as I have seen pics of elsewhere, but 0.6m don't seem so bad. It's all what yer used to, I guess.... and prepared for, indeed.

Good luck!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:48 PM

Back in '79 here, I started out for work one morning, and couldn't push the screen door open....and this was under a porch! We had over 2 ft. that night, but all it was was a heavy snow where the system had developed right over us and sat there. There was 'some' wind, but nothing like a blizzard. The whole DC area was shut down for 2 days.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:56 PM

story from the local NBC station, which has an excellent weatherman


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 07:39 PM

Fir the recond, when I do dig out I plan on findin' a weatherman and give him or her a piece of my mind!!!

Secondly, I prolly won't be around fir a while after tomorrow 'cause the snow will cover up the pudder-dish... Last time it was 4 days without pudder... The TV dish is biogger so I'm hopin' that I'll be able to get the Super Bowl on Sunday but, sheet fire, I might not even have 'lectricity...

But I got beer and some shine so I'll be fine...

Hey, that rhymes...

Nevermind...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 08:00 PM

Beer don't rhyme with shine!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 08:01 PM

cheap boilermker?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 08:45 PM

Shine and fine rhyme, 999...

Cheap, my butt, Bill... A gollon o' shine is over a hunnert bucks...

Worth every penny, too...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 08:51 PM

?? a GALLON?? wow... I can get 3 bottles of pretty good single malt scotch for that... and 2 excellent ones.

(I've tasted good 'shine.... I'll take the scotch...*grin*)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:32 PM

My wife was in the DC area for the snow in December. She's there now. Is there a connection?

Bobert, why don't you tie the house to that Kabota and just drag it nearer the road each winter?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:44 PM

Bobert, in Juneau there are a number of historical houses that were moved on skids on snow. They were pulled by phalanxes of mules. One three story house was pulled uphill 70 feet.

So Rap has an idea. Of course, you may find, in leafing out time, that you've lost your view...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:55 PM

I perfer Everclear with orange juice. I know there ain't no lead or methanol in it.

About $16 bucks for a fifth or $80 a gallon. 190 proof corn likker and no hangovers.

Only down side is it's legal and not so much fun.

I perfer blackberry brandy though for workin' outside in the snow. It keeps you warm somehow.

Any way, tie a rope from the back porch post to the barn and another to the outhouse you you won't get lost in a whiteout.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:55 PM

Also, if your house is uphill from the road it would be a LOT easier....


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 10:06 PM

Somebody thinks there is a blizzard coming.

Winter storm, blizzard warnings for Delaware up to 24 inches of snow possible

A major winter storm developing over the Gulf of Mexico has the potential to dump enough snow to paralyze parts of the mid-Atlantic region this weekend -- including Delaware, forecasters say, with up to 24 inches possible in parts of the state.

A winter storm warning is in effect from 4 p.m. Friday to 7 p.m. Saturday for New Castle County, the National Weather Service says. The service predicts 12 to 18 inches of snow upstate.

Quantcast

A blizzard warning is in effect in the same time frame for Kent and Sussex counties, where up to 24 inches of snow may accumulate combined with stiff winds that may produce whiteout conditions.

Sussex County emergency officials also warned there is a potential for coastal tidal flooding and residents should prepare by securing loose items.

The temperature tonight will drop to about 25, rising to the mid-30s on Friday. Precipitation may begin in the afternoon as rain or a mix of rain and snow, or a mix of snow and sleet, with little accumulation until it turns to all snow after 7 p.m.

Winds are expected to pick up around 1 a.m. Saturday. Gusts are expected to reach about 36 mph upstate on Saturday and 45 mph downstate during the day.

The temperature will drop to the upper 20s on Friday night and stay there through Saturday night, when it will drop into the mid-teens.

The Delaware Department of Transportation said this afternoon that crews will be out today and Friday pre-treating the roads in advance of the storm. These crews will be moving slowly and DelDOT asks motorists to allow plenty of distance around the vehicles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 10:32 PM

We are about to be paralyzed

Virginia Declares State of Emergency Before Impending Blizzard

Northern and western parts of Virginia are expected to see well over a foot of snow beginning Friday morning, prompting Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell to declare a state of emergency in advance of impending blizzard conditions.

McDonnell's Wednesday declaration authorizes state agencies to aid local governments in responding to storm conditions.

The purpose of the declaration is to allot extra preparation time for emergency and road management crews.

According to the Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT), 94 percent of the state snow removal budget has already been spent on earlier winter storms.

However, VDOT has an emergency reserve fund set up to serve as monetary back-up if future storms cause a need for more manpower and supplies.

VDOT wants people to know that despite budget concerns, road conditions will be first priority with this weekend's storm.

Residents are urged to stay off area roadways, with white-out conditions creating extremely hazardous travel conditions. High winds are also expected, with power outages a likely outcome.

Accumulation for this storm had the potential to match or exceed snowfall totals from the December mid-Atlantic blizzard.

The Washington, D.C. and surrounding metro areas are already very close to surpassing all-time winter snowfall records.

The function of declaring a state-wide declaration of emergency is to alert citizens that certain government processes, like postal services and schooling, may be suspended during a major weather or other emergency event.

Gumint agencies are also required to implement emergency preparation plans in response to the declaration.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 10:32 PM

"gusts" do not a blizzard make....try sustained winds of 50-60 MPH

It won't be fun in DC OR Delaware, but ask folks on the prairies of N. Dakota what a 'blizzard' is like.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:05 PM

Fortunately I live in Annapolis, MD, so this is of no importance to me....


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:08 PM

In the United States, the National Weather Service defines a blizzard as sustained winds or frequent gusts reaching or exceeding 35 mph which lead to blowing snow and cause visibilities of 1/4 mile or less, lasting for at least 3 hours. Temperature is not taken into consideration when issuing a blizzard warning, but the nature of these storms is such that cold air is often present when the other criteria are met. Temperatures are generally below 32 °F.

According to Environment Canada, a winter storm must have winds of 25 mph or more, have snow or blowing snow, visibility less than 500 feet, a wind chill of less than −15 °F, and all of these conditions must last for 3 hours or more before the storm can be properly called a blizzard.

Many European countries, such as the UK, have a lower threshold: the Met Office defines a blizzard as "moderate or heavy snow" combined with a mean wind speed of 30 mph and visibility below 650 feet.

Meteorologists refer to blizzard-like conditions with no snow falling as a ground blizzard, because all the snow is already present at the surface of the earth and is simply being blown by high winds. Ground blizzards require large expanses of open and relatively flat land with a sufficient amount of accumulated and loosely packed, powdery snow to be blown around.

NOAA: The Sioux Falls Forecast Office issues a blizzard warning when the following conditions are expected to occur for 3 hours or more:

   1. Sustained wind speeds of 35 mph or more, or frequent gusts to 35 mph or greater;
   2. Considerable falling and/or blowing snow that reduces visibility frequently to 1/4 mile or less.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:10 PM

It's all relative, isn't it? What is a blizzard in D.C. is not as much as what is a blizzard in Wyoming or other places mentioned. Though when you consider the humidity of the eastern snow, the weight is more impressive than that in parts west!

I agree with Bill, though. In WY, it is the sustained winds which really do make the snow come at you sideways without let-up which is considered a blizzard.

On the other hand, a whiteout is a whiteout, so be careful!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:26 AM

Sorry, Rap, about yer wife gettin a second dose... Most winters we don't get squt in the way of snow... Guess we're havin' a catch-up year...

Been snowin' here since before light... I went out to get another 5 gallons of diesel fuel... They were sold out at the place I usually get it so I had to ride around a little to get it... They're callin' for 22 inches-plus here in Page County...

As for moving the house??? I don't think the basement wants to get dragged down the hill... Plus, half the drive way is cut into the side of the mountain and very narrow and one little slip and the house would become a gravity test...

As for Everclear??? Shine is shine and Everclear ain't shine...

Well, ol' Boberdz plan is to go out once there's about 4 inches of snow and plow what I can to both sides of the driveway and try to do that every 4 inches afterwards... The problem will be in that cut out spot on the mountain 'cause there ain't alot of places for the snow to go... Oughtta be interesting...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:30 AM

The Everclear Song by Roger Creager

Everyday in lunch in high school,
And all of my senior year,
I'd drink my Coca-Cola with a touch of everclear.
I never had to study math, science or history,
I'd have a chemical flashback to jog my memory.
In my junior year I swore I loved sweet Miss Sherrie-Ann,
One night I put some everclear in her Dr. Pepper can.
I thought it'd make her easy, but she took it pretty hard,
I took her home and rang her doorbell, left her lyin' in the yard.

Tequila dries me out, and beer just makes me fat.
Whiskey makes me nauseous, tell me who the hell needs that?
If you're thinkin' about drinkin', then the answer's crystal clear,
Its the invisible intoxicant....its called everclear.

I remember my church picnic in the spring of '89,
They had 4 fresh watermelon sliced right off the vine.
When they bowed their heads giving grace for the food,
Hey, I pulled out the bottle, and I soaked them melons good.
Well they never knew what hit 'em, when the potion went to work,
They had Grandma's doin' backflips, Grandpa's lookin' up their skirts.
They were singing Hallelujah and Willie Nelson songs,
Preacher said it was the best dang picnic,
That the baptists had ever thrown.

Tequila dries me out, and beer just makes me fat.
Whiskey makes me nauseous, tell me who the hell needs that?
If you're thinkin' about drinkin', then the answer's crystal clear,
Its the invisible intoxicant....its called everclear.

When I'm drinkin' everclear, I think I'm king of this whole world,
I'm bigger and badder than John Wayne and cooler than Steve Earle.
Until I wake up and I'm face down in the hall,
Hey, I'm completely naked, for a reason I can't recall.
Well I'm kinda, sorta thinkin' that maybe I met a chick,
'Cause there's perfume in the air, and there's lipstick on my neck.
Well I hope that she was pretty and I hope that she was kind,
Enough to leave my clothes somewhere they're easy to find.

Tequila dries me out, and beer just makes me fat.
Whiskey makes me nauseous; tell me who the hell needs that?
If you're thinkin' about drinkin', then the answer's crystal clear,
It's the invisible intoxicant....its called everclear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:02 AM

Hurrruuuummmmffff!!!

No one is cooler than Steve Earle, no matter how drunked up... ***grin***

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:33 AM

One blizzard in North Dakota has never been forgotten by my family.

It was just before Christmas, I think around 1930 (I wsn't born yet), and my father drove to town 10 miles away (The family was Amish but in North Dakota cars were allowed) to pick up some last stuff. He knew a storm was coming but thought he'd get home before it hit.

He bought his things but by the time he got them into the car the snow was flying thick and heavy. It occurred to him to spend the night in town but he didn't want to leave my mother alone with the children, plus if the roads were closed for any length of time there was stock to tend to. So he took off.

About three miles out of town his car started cutting out and finally quit entirely. He worked on it and worked on it but it was no go. By this time the wind was howling and visibility was just about zero. He thought about walking back to town but figured his chances of getting home were just about as good as they were of getting back to town. Besides, he knew the terrain – pretty flat - and the fences...

At home my mother fed the children an early supper then went out to feed the cows and horses.   They had long since tied ropes between various buildings and my mother clung to them, afraid that if she fell down she'd never find the house again. She milked the milch cow but long before she made it back to the house the wind tore the bucket from her hand and it flew away.

Safely back in the house she assured the children that Daddy would stay in town until tomorrow and promised them she would pop some corn and make some hot cocoa for a special treat.

It was long after dark when the door flew open and crashed against the wall. A snow-covered hulk lurched into the house. My mother screamed, the children started crying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 12:26 PM

Well... guess what? It started snowing lightly at 11:30AM...

I went out and did my preparations....as best I could. Moved car & van to the base of drive and covered them with sheets of plastic, leaving a clear area behind them where I can easily?? shovel when it's over, then I can move vehicles back and have 'relatively' clear access to street with as little shoveling as possible. Also lined up about 8 trash cans and plastic tubs in the narrowest area between house & driveway, so I can just lift and dump them, leaving some bare pavement underneath.

(Taking pics as I go... need to document this one! I 'may' go out and shovel several times during the evening, on my theory that doing 15 minutes on 3" 4-5 times is better than 3 hours of 20" when it's done.)

Y'all stay warm, ya' hear?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 12:33 PM

(and I hope no one gets even a 'technical' blizzard in this mess)

I see my 'general' guidelines about sustained winds and quantity of snow are reflected to the definitions Sawzaw posted.

The only blizzard conditions I was ever in was when I was young and in a house in the city....the drifts were amazing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 01:01 PM

lordy! Now some sources are saying we 'could' get 30"

"Snowfalls of this magnitude — let alone two in one season — are rare in the area. According to the National Weather Service, Washington has gotten more than a foot of snow only 13 times since 1870. The heaviest on record was 28 inches in January 1922. But the biggest snowfall is believed to have occurred in 1772, before official records were kept, when as much as 3 feet fell in the Washington-Baltimore area. Both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson mentioned the event in their diaries, according to the weather service."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 01:01 PM

"Saturday, February 6

Midwinter Festival Cancelled


   Dear Volunteers, Performers, Members and Friends,
While as of 8 pm Thursday evening Montgomery County had not yet made an official announcement, it is clear that the predicted snow is on the way, and that functions such as Mini-Fest, scheduled to be held in a school facility, must be cancelled. Fairfax, Loudoun, Stafford, and Howard County school systems have already announced that they will be closed Friday and that all weekend activities in school buildings are cancelled. Montgomery County will doubtless follow suit. "


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 01:35 PM

Did I mention that got firewood, deisel fuel and moonshine???

Let it snow... (not)

Been snowin' now since about 6:30 this mornin' but only about 2 inches so far (on top of what was left of the 6 we got a couple days ago...)...

At this rate I won't do my first plowing until late afternoon... I think plowing at 4 to 6 inches will give me half a chance by the end of the day of gettin' after it good tomorrow morning... Now we've heard numbers as much as 30 inches... I'm not sure how to go about diggin' out of 30 inches... I mean, there are only so many places I can put the snow...

Oh well??? I got shine, right???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 02:44 PM

My wife just told me that a Chicago TV weatherman said, "The Washington, DC area is forecasted to get 24 inches of snow. That's 23 1/2 inches more than they're used to."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 02:51 PM

We've HAD that ½" already...it's beginning to stick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Alice
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 02:57 PM

I was watching a weatherman today who explained that they measure the inches in water content, not how deep the snow really is. The snow will not be 24 inches deep, he said, but will be very wet snow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 03:59 PM

Snowin' like a sumabich here now... Still ain't accumulatin' much, however, 'cause it's a wet snow...

Just went out and at least shoveled the paths we'll be using for the next few days or weeks...

Where the heck is spring???

Oh yeah, internet has allready started its in and out trick 'cause we got satellite...

Speakin' of satellites, I heard on the radio this mornin' that ex-planet Pluto is purdy pissed off about being downgraded... Seems it is appearing redder and redder in the telescope... I'm kinda worried that it's gonna turn itself into a bigass meteorite and come put a hurt on Earth for being dissed... I donno... I wouldn't blame it, tho...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:04 PM

Mommy, what's a blizzard?
Is it cold, and is it white?
Do little kids get to stay home,
If it happens overnight?
Ever since we moved to San Diego,
I get chills down in my gizzard,
When my li'l daughter asks me,
Mommy, what's a blizzard?....


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:09 PM

Run! The sky is falling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:19 PM

Run! The sky is falling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:20 PM

Oh... I see what I did wrong... sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:27 PM

3-4 inches of the sky has fallen, so far. I have 'scooped'/shoveled twice so far, just to stay ahead while I can.(I am NOT gonna stay up all night).

Wet indeed, and I am using a pushbroom to shake the branches of our bushes that line the downstairs entrance, so they don't break, and so they don't block the path.

If this is gonna be one for the history books, I am gonna do my bit to fight it.

What we are worried about is potential power outages from limbs on power lines. We are cooking a couple things than can be eaten cold...and I have LOTS of peanut butter & bread! *grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard comming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:28 PM

Hmmmm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 05:30 PM

Wow. I just checked DC's forecast. Winter Storm Warning effective until 10:00 Saturday night. Some areas will rack up more than 30 inches.

Stay home, everybody!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rumncoke
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 05:32 PM

If you get some good stuff don't waste it - ship it to Canada for the winter olympics.

Anne Croucher


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 05:34 PM

Ship it to Canada? That's okay... just get the correct address... 3000 miles from me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 05:57 PM

Made the first and last pass down the driveway a couple times for the day... About 5 inches of really wet snow....

If anyone wants my snow then can have it for free... Come fetch... Take all...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 06:50 PM

At first I thought people were over reacting because of the whopper we got in December but now I am back to the blizzard mode.

I see they are calling for 20 to 30" in the WV panhandle. I was planning on going up there today for the weekend. Now I am glad I didn't.

I am sorry to say it but you are in for it Bobert. Maybe somebody can air drop a snowblower in there. Suburban living has it's advantages. I only have to shovel about 10 feet to get to the street.

Here they are calling for winds up to 40 MPH.

I remember in '58 we got about 12" but it was so cold it didn't melt and the wind blew up 20 foot drifts.

My maw and my brother got stuck halfway between DC and Annapolis where Wild world is now. We were in a Studebaker Golden Hawk which was pretty low to the ground.

We were stuck in a farmhouse there for 3 days until a big ass bulldozer with one of those huge V blades blasted through so we could get out.

Then we proceeded toward Annapolis and got as far as Davidsonville where Homestead Gardens is now. There was a big dip in the road that was filling up with drifts every 5 minutes after it was cleared.

A road grader would go through and about 6 cars would follow before it drifted shut. The grader would turn around and come back with 6 cars behind. The back up was so bad and getting worse we turned 'er around and went back to DC to my oldest bro's house for another 3 before we could get through.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 07:14 PM

Bobert, you need a flame thrower. And while you're at it, you can take out the annoying neighbor with the guns.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 07:27 PM

That reminds me, Magz... I owe Mudburg a thread on the gun-nut... Maybe I'll get it posted before the pudder craps out again...

Yeah, Sawz... Looks like we're gonna get us a blast... Right now it's, ahhhhhhhh, sleeting??? Go figure???

Hey, I got firewood, a good woman, deisel fuel, shine and beer... What else is there... Hopefully we won't lose power but if we do I also have spare water in 5 gallons buckets for an occasional flush...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 07:28 PM

Just tote in some of that snow and lay it down in the john before you need to flush...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 08:12 PM

crap! Lights just flickered... I do not like this


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 08:26 PM

Don't know how the pudder is gettin' thru to the satellite but...

...blowin' snow sideways right now and it's heavy...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:16 PM

there is no wind! The snow is so heavy in weight and sticky that power wires are piled with 6 inches of snow. My invisible nylon deer fence has collapsed from the snow sticking to the tiny filiments that form 2 inch wide squares.

Collapse hazards may be in the offing for flat roofed buildings in the area.

I wired the furnace so that if we lose electricty I can still keep the furnace going with power inverters attached to one of our cars.

At midnight I will make a pass with a snow blower since it can only handle up to 18 uinches at a time. With a brace on my knee I found I can walk well enough to go slow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:42 PM

Drive it over this way, Donuel! *grin*...It ain't far!

I just shoveled the 4" or so that have fallen in the last couple hours..(that is, I moved some of it sideways from the area I 'hope' to maintain... I shook my Yew bushes for the 5th time, 'cause they were bending double....

It is snowing pretty hard, but as Donuel says, not blowing much yet....we shall see.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:58 PM

In Wyoming there is always wind after any snow, but a blizzard generally would be both snowing and blowing. Sometimes, though, they get ground blizzards. NO wind during the snow, THEN hellacious
winds which pick up the snow and swirl it into white-out conditions, all blowing sideways.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:58 PM

another lights 'flicker'... I'd give 50/50 on us getting thru the night without a power failure


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:14 PM

Amos, your homage to Utah is delightful. He would have definitely appreciated it.



A woman I know used to say that when she saw movies like Holiday Inn, with snow gently falling, she was convinced it was soap flakes.

She said it couldn't be snow:   snow actually is horizontal, dirty, comes from the west, and it stings.   That's the way it was in Iowa where she was from.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:30 PM

Heck, if the wind ever stopped in Wyoming everything and everybody would fall over.

Sorry, no snow here yet. Just leftovers. And we need snow, especially in the mountains, 'cause the snowpack is only 60% of normal for this time o' year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: maeve
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:31 PM

Keep warm and safe, y'all.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:32 PM

Nice and quiet in Maine...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:48 PM

Do they bury the power lines in Maine?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:51 PM

Only when they go dead, Bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:04 PM

LOL, reckon so, Rap!

BillD...good luck on keeping power!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Severn
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:20 PM

Power to the People! Not Powder......

Trying to figure out what to do a movie marathon on.....
Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd? Hitchcock? Old Westerns?

I have a booklite if the power goes. I may finish off the Wiki Coffin mysteries.....


Whatever, I'm now finally retired from the Post Office, where I was due in at 4am no matter what the weather.......

...AND LOVIN' IT!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:08 AM

Now it is O-ficially being called the Blizzard of 2010 on TV and in the weather forecasts.

It is difficult to tell how many inches we have had because it is drifting so bad.

One guy got out of here in a CJ type Jeep a little while ago. He had snow tires on all fours but he could only go about 20 feet at a time. Then he had to back up and get up some momentum to go another 20 feet.

The snow was deeper than his ground clearance so his whole jeep was dragging a path through the snow.

I am staying right here. we will be OK as long as the power stays on. Fortunately we are near a substation fed by a power transmission line and not a lot of trees to come down a mess up things. All the power lines in the whole community are underground.

Looks like we will get at least 30". I would not bet against getting 36".

It may possibly exceed the 36" snowfall that Washington and Jefferson both wrote about in the 1770's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:09 AM

So, how much ya got? gettin?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:11 AM

Sheet fire!!!

Lotta snow here... Gonne be at least 3 days diggin' out...

Internet in-and-out so I'll just leave it at this...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:14 AM

I just read 24", lightning overnight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:14 AM

Oops... 18" to 24".


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:20 AM

I'll report my totals later... I'm preparing myself mentally for the shovelin' it's gonna take to get back to the tractor... Ain't no way of walkin' thru this stuff, that much is fir sure...

Snow sucks, BTW!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:48 AM

No... it blows.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Severn
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:01 AM

Snow also BLOWS, Bobert, if you catch my drift.

Some kids came up to my townshack, approachable since I shoveled a trail last night and cleared outside the out swinging front screen door to make sure it could open, and asked for $20 to shovel me out. I pointed out which one was my car, and they looked incredulously, like "What? You want us to do the car too?" I sent the three of them on their way. I told them to work my side of the street, as the winds blew drifts up to the front doors that have no overhang and that some who didn't do preventive naintenence and could not get their front doors open would probably gladly pay. I'll go out myself, burns or no burns and do the townhouse steps after breakfast. Then I'll hibernate here in Hiber-space.

When I was a kid, we were lucky if we could get $20 for a whole suburban house walkway, driveway and car. I just have steps.There's no biz like Snow Biz!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:20 AM

We still have power....because the huge top part of the Elm tree in front just missed the lines when it fell this morning.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:20 AM

Must be 2ft. out there, and still snowing,


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:38 AM

Sorry to hear about the tree, Bill. Glad it didn't take out the power, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:52 AM

I can see 3 other limbs down within a half block...one seems to have knocked down one line, but maybe just telephone. It will be 2 days before I'll be able to go far enough to look around the neighborhood...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:55 AM

George Washington Jan 29 1772: "being fully 3 feet deep everywhere at level."

"The same snow continued all last night and all this day with equal violence"

"the deepest snow which I suppose the oldest living ever remembers to have seen in this country."

Thomas Jefferson Jan 26 1772:

"The deepest snow we have ever seen. in Al-bemarle it was about 3.f. deep"


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:04 AM

Just measured 22" on my back deck (just a couple of miles from Bill), and still coming down pretty hard. They're still predicting another 4-8" before it winds down this evening. A couple of my macho neighbors have dug out their cars already. Seems kinda pointless to me -- our one-block dead-end street is so low on the plowing priority list that it's going to be several days at least before they or anybody else can get out. I think I'll dig out slowly over the next few days..

I think I'll go do my taxes...

Just PLEEZE let the power stay on!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:07 AM

We're gaining on you, George & Tom!

I wonder if they'll be posting Mudcat archives in 250 years...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:09 AM

Looks to me like it's snowing harder in the last hour...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:11 AM

180,000 people without power in general DC area... I guess we're just lucky...so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,fretless
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:18 AM

Yup, it seems to have picked up again (Arlington VA). Back in '96 I shoveled things out when the storm was about half done, and by the time it was over it didn't seem to have made any difference. This time, I'm clearing a run for the dog every few hours (a spaniel; it's way over her head out there), but that's it. Short of keeping the bird feeder full, I'm using today to stay inside and catch up on my reading.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:32 AM

DC mayor just said it's right at 22 inches, and we're expecting enough more to approach the 28" record of 1922..It is snowing right steady as I type. The birds are as happy as birds get in this, as I filled everything yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 12:23 PM

There are two storms merging over Maryland for a grand finale.

"Winter Storm Warning:

Issued at: 10:02 AM EST 2/6/10, expires at: 6:15 PM EST 2/6/10

Winter storm warning remains in effect until 10 pm est this evening,
A winter storm warning remains in effect until 10 pm est this evening.
Precipitation type, steady light snow.
Accumulations, an additional 3 to 5 inches today with total accumulations of 25 to 35 inches, with some locations possibly receiving locally higher amounts across western Maryland and the eastern West Virginia panhandle.
Timing, snow will continue through late this afternoon. Snow will taper off by 7 pm. "


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 12:31 PM

It's snowing heavily in Richmond but nothing like you guys are getting in DC. Just looked out on my deck - it's around 5 inches now. A lot of the precipitation that fell last night was rain and sleet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 12:35 PM

Rain and sleet... that's the nasty part. And, I see the temp is around 32F so the snow must be heavy shovelling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:06 PM

If it's snowing in Richmond, maybe also in Hopewell, which should make my Mom happy. She loves to sit and watch it fall. My brother is there to dig out and go get stuff from shop if necessary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:18 PM

26 years in this house, and this beyond anything I have seen.

here was last Dec.20 (looking from my driveway toward the house)

here is the beginning of this storm (looking from up in the house toward the driveway)

and here it is this morning (bushes flattened!)

The problem we are going to have is that it will be colder, so this won't melt soon, and there's no easy place to PUT snow that we will be shoveling. Fortunately, the house beside the driveway is vacant, so I can shovel a lot from the drive right into that yard...if I can toss it that high...*wry grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:33 PM

DON'T KILL YOURSELVES SHOVELLING!!! Especially with such wet heavy snow -- wait til it stops (if you can) and then take it REAL slow and easy. This is not the time to discover you have a heart problem...

And, when you finally get the roads cleared, be very cautious. SUVs are not invincible -- and most people in your area just don't have enough snow driving experience.

Hope your power stays on!

Sending warm wishes from New Hampshire,
Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:41 PM

Fortunately, we have nowhere we need to be. We have food for days, and no work to go to. My son will shovel when his boss decides to open the store where he works. (It's two long blocks to the bus stop, and the buses won't be running till late tomorrow at the earliest.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:47 PM

Dead on advice, Linn. Learn to play banjo or bagpipes or both, because when the snowplows come through you're gonna have to shovel out the driveway again anyway. AND this is a great time to do those things since the neighbors aren't going to come over a complain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Alice
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:53 PM

Yup, that's a heck of a lot of snow all right, Bill.

Nice photos.

I have a lot of broken branches still buried under the first storm in October that I'll have to assess when spring melts everything. The cotoneasters were flattened, and the cherry tree still has one bent branch buried under a drift.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:56 PM

weird! I heard that you should go out and shovel every so often from beginning to end of snow fall. That way, what you are shovelling doesn't get a chance to get deep and so is not so heavy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:57 PM

Bill,
Thanks for the pictures. Stay warm and safe. That looks like my worst nightmare.
SINS, in almost snowless Maine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 03:05 PM

Just measured again -- almost 25" and still coming down! Definitely a record for me, and I've been in this house for 38 years now...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 03:08 PM

My son & I just dug to those cans, and shook the bushes, and moved 5 of the cans & just dumped 'em beside the path... so now we are 'almost' TO the drive way. The flattened bushes were quite an obstacle....and there was one fewer, because I dug it up last Summer and made that wild piece I posted on the other thread. If THAT Yew bush had still been there, it would have been 'interesting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 03:10 PM

Yeah, Nancy...I measured 24" in my back yard 3 hrs. ago. I suppose there's been about another inch or so since...still snowing, though smaller flakes and lighter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 03:21 PM

Note: We have 24" of heavy, compacted snow, as opposed to maybe 18" of light, fluffy snow in mid-December. I did our entire drive way in an hour back then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 04:24 PM

Hey all! Checking in from a bit NW of Bill, Nancy and the rest of the FSGW crew. We had 18" over here in Rockville as of about 11am this morning when I made the first attempt of shoveling. I'm about to go out for the 2nd. On the bright side, the folks our complex hires to deal with the common sidewalks (and the street) have been through. OTOH they shoveled or blew a lot of that between our cars.

One power outage sometime early in the morning. Don't know when it started, but the power was out when the cats woke us up demanding breakfast at 6:30am. It went back on while we were trying to get back to sleep.

Other than that, just sipping tea and watching DVDs and TiVO.

Oh yes, and I'm mightily *PISSED* the storm wiped out BOTH the MiniFest and a James Keelaghan concert in Baltimore. Been a few years since we've seen Keelo.

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 04:59 PM

Just skyped with my Mamma in Hopewell VA. She says it is coming down hard. In the time we were chatting it had just started to come down and by the time we finished everything was white. Mu brother is not with mom, but my 17 year old niece and her friend are with her. My sister and her partner are just down the road.

I get worried because my Mom is 82 and a bit on the frail side.

Good to know her twin, my aunt Dot is not at her cottage on the Chickahominy. The power always goes out in these storms. But she is also in Hopewell, staying with Uncle Bob (the older brother).


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 05:01 PM

"I've been in this house for 38 years now..."

No offence, but you gotta get out more often.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 05:07 PM

I hope you folks are being careful with your backs AND HEARTS. The kinda snow you're describing is a serious danger to the people wielding the shovel. Most of you (myself included) ain't spring chickens anymore, so be careful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 05:24 PM

I'm sub-contracting the hard stuff to my 27 year old this time...6'4" and Kung-Fu trained. He isn't 'fond' of the job, but we feed him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 05:34 PM

Ain't no grasshoppers out there, I hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 05:50 PM

I think we're finally about done with this. Weather Service radar shows the storm finally moving off. 25" is enough for me, thank you very much.

I guess I'll just take the shoveling slo-o-o-owly. And maybe I can get one of the macho neighbor guys to help. I don't expect the plow for several days, so I couldn't get out of my street anyhow -- even a 4-wheel-drive Subaru can't go if the snow is higher than the bumper. Fortunately I can walk to my doctor appointment on Monday afternoon. I just hope I can get out by Thursday, when I'm supposed to start out for Maine. How ironic is that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:07 PM

Here is why I cant find an undisturbed area to measure the snow depth.

Washington D.C. Continues to Be Blasted by Huge Snowstorm and Blizzard

February 06, 2010 Jake Emen

The massive blizzard in the Mid-Atlantic region is continuing to drop snow at a steady, fast pace. The huge predictions for snow put the entire region into a frenzy, and as of Saturday, February 6 everything is basically shut down in the Washington D.C. Metro area.

I've been recounting the blizzard since it began early yesterday morning, and you can read more updates on my D.C. Blizzard Updates blog. You'll be able to see how the storm has progressed all throughout yesterday and today, as well as snow totals and accumulations and more. Thank you everyone for all of the kind comments I have received there, and I will continue updating that as the day continues.

As mentioned, from my area in Rockville, Maryland, which is north of Washington D.C., everything has come to a standstill. As of about 1:30 pm Saturday, there was about 20-22 inches of snow on the ground, with another 3-5 inches of snow on the way. This will satisfy the 24 inch predictions, but come short of the 30 inch predictions, and the circulating rumors that the Pentagon held briefings warning of 48 inches of snow.

In Montgomery County and the D.C. area, public transportation is basically completely done with. Above ground metro stations in the D.C. area have been closed since last evening, as have been Montgomery Country Ride On buses. All local businesses also appear to be closed.

To the area's credit, the local government seems to be pretty proactive about getting the snow cleared as much as possible right now. The roads are still a disaster - but a lot of progress has been made.

In combination with the steady, wet snow, there have also been wind gusts exceeding 30 mph. This has created an environment with a minimal amount of visibility, and areas with drifting snow. Some snow drifts just walking along the streets have accumulated to over 4 feet in depth. It's easy to get lost in there.

There have been some reports of power outages all throughout the region, and even just venturing out to a few local streets there have been a handful of downed trees and large branches from trees. It seems the situation could get worse before it gets better, but the snow is expected to stop by later on this afternoon.

As for me during the rest of the D.C. blizzard, I'll be bunkered down. I'm set to go with the essentials - chili ingredients, beer, wine and chips - for the Super Bowl tomorrow afternoon, and I certainly won't be attempting to leave the house at any point soon. Stay safe and warm out there!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: DougR
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:29 PM

Snow. It's white isn't it?

DougR
(In warm, sunny Arizona)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:08 PM

"I'm sub-contracting the hard stuff to my 27 year old this time...6'4" and Kung-Fu trained. He isn't 'fond' of the job, but we feed him."

Ya keep feeding him he'll keep coming back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:09 PM

"DougR
(In warm, sunny Arizona)"

The most unkindliest cut of all . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:17 PM

"Ya keep feeding him he'll keep coming back"

Didn't I read that on another thread?

He would go in a minute if he was finished with school and had a decent job. (currently working for barely more than minimum wage for a guy who squeezes a dollar so hard it yells.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:19 PM

My wife just called from Silver Spring on the land line. Seems like her cell phone couldn't get a signal. Land lines are NOT obsolete.

She also can't get Comcast-supplied Internet, although they do have cable television working.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: kendall
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:21 PM

I'm glad I live in Maine. Two feet of snow is a minor, temporary inconvenience here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:34 PM

"Blizzard hammers east coast; two killed
Posted at: 02/06/2010 9:59 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) - Trees have toppled onto apartment buildings and cars as a blizzard batters the Mid-Atlantic region this morning. Two deaths have been reported.

Airlines canceled flights, Amtrak canceled service and churches called off weekend worship as officials warned people to just stay home.

A record of 2½ feet or more is predicted for Washington alone. As of early Saturday, parts of Maryland had seen up to 20 inches of snow.

Forecasters say it could be the biggest storm in the nation's capital in modern history.

Blizzard warnings have been issued for D.C., parts of New Jersey and Delaware and some areas west of the Chesapeake Bay. Tens of thousands in the region are without power."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:34 PM

Strange, Rap....we are getting Comcast just fine, and we are 'technically' in Silver Spring.(Wheaton) Since it all comes in on the same cable, I have no idea why part of it works and not the other.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:35 PM

"Snow Storms Wallop Canadian and American East Coast
CFRA News Staff
Saturday, February 6, 2010

Residents of Newfoundland are waking up to 45 cm of newly fallen snow.

In St John's, many schools, businesses and government offices were closed yesterday.

High winds and blowing snow made travelling difficult.

Flights were cancelled in and out of St. John's and busses were ordered off the roads Friday afternoon.

Meanwhile, a huge blizzard is blowing through Washington D-C!

Residents of the U.S. Capital are hunkering down for the weekend as 70 cm of snow is expected.

Snow is expected from Baltimore to northern Virginia and parts of West Virginia.

Forecasters are expecting a mix of heavy snow and strong winds which they say will make travel ``very hazardous or nearly impossible.''

The U-S National Weather Service calls the storm``extremely dangerous'' -- "


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Janie
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 08:57 PM

Glad you still have power, Bill. Hope it lasts.

Mom and Dad are being slammed so bad, but other places in WV are. It is such a wet, heavy snow, and apparently packing some wind. Gonna bring down tree branches onto powerlines in a lot of places.

Wondering what the weather is like at Mudcat Central and if we should be prepared for Max to experience a power outage. This morning, Facebook was having weirdness so i had trouble getting to the Mudcat group, but that is a good back-up place to "talk", should the Cat go down.

The group link at the bottom of the screen was not working, but when I entered Mudcat Cafe in the search box, it took me to the facebook Mudcat group.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Phot
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:35 PM

Hope you are all keeping safe over on the other side of the pond, brings the little bit of snow we had last month into sharp relief.

Look after each other.

Blessings Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:56 PM

Officially we got 27" here, 30" nearby.

We are two inches shy of the season record.

Snow is expected Tuesday 30% Tuesday night 60% and Wednesday 50%


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 09:17 AM

Well, well, well...

First of all, we got a shit-load of snow... In some places it's prolly close to 28 inches and others a mere 24 inches, depending on wind drifts, etc...

Second of all, my biggest mistake before the snow was putting the tractor into the equipement barn nose first... My thinkin' was that I wanted to keep the deisel engine outta the cold wind Open side of the barn)...

Problem was that it took an entire half an hour of using the rear blade to push and push snow at various angles and blade heights in order to get the tractor turned around where I could use the front loader...

But I finally got it turned around and spend the entire morning and afternoon diggin' out... So far I've made it 300 feet of the 1300 or so feet of driveway... That ain't all that good but I think I can do 400-500 feet today... It's slow because I'm having to go down get one buck full of snow and then back the tractor up to an area that I cleared yesterday where I am stacking the snow... The piles are right at 8 feet tall which makes it real interetsing in there because I can't see anything but stacks of snow in a horseshoe all around me...

Ahhhhh, I do have a friend who has a real big tractor (with a heated cab) who is going to try to make it down below today and work from the bottom of ther driveway... If he can get 500 feet then I'll be out by Tuesday... If not, with the snow we are expectin' Tuesday night I might have to walk out and hitch a ride to town for more beer... The shine is almost gone...

But, we never lost power so that's a good thing and...

...go Saints!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 09:52 AM

Nancy: Can we join you in the irony? We're headed to Boston on Friday. 8-)

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:41 AM

This weather doesn't bode well for this year's crop of eagle chicks. My wife has been watching two nests on the webcams in the greater DC area, Blackwater in West Virginia and Shepherdstown in Maryland. In both nests the eagles had already laid eggs. The eagles were valiantly trying to keep their nest bowls free of snow but by this morning the WV nest looked overwhelmed and it's very cold. The eggs need to be incubated at a constant 105 degrees F. and that's not possible under these extreme conditions.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:48 AM

Never had any luck tryin' to clear snow with a blade on a tractor but I never had any chains either. I keep thinkin' snowblower, snowblower.

I only need a snow shovel at home but I have to pay someone to plow snow elsewhere. Never was a problem since 2003 except in the last three years it is costing more and more.

I might spring for a snowblower and some chains for my 'Bota. If not a front one, a rear mounted one at least.

That way there is no problem figuring out where to put the snow. You just fling it 20 feet and make it deeper elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:57 AM

I try to blow it onto the driveway of the neighbor who stole my fence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:01 AM

Even though I get a crick in my neck working backwards, I think a rear mounted 3 point snowblower would be better. That way I can still have the bucket on the front for touchups.

The hitch will raise the thing up and down with no hydraulic hookups needed, just the PTO shaft which is needed either way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:05 AM

My wife is now stranded in Silver Spring until the 11th.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:21 AM

This story is for Bobert:

Back when we were living in South Bend, Indiana, we decided to buy a snowblower. We got a Craftsman from Sears: 22 inch opening, 5 horsepower, electric start, self-propelled (but you still gotta guide it), dual stage, all that good stuff. Didn't use it much the first winter.

The second winter, well, we had about a foot and I used it to clear out driveway, the sidewalk, the neighbors' sidewalks, and the alley. Did that a couple of times (note that Indiana gets HEAVY WET SNOW).

Then I moved down to No. Kentucky, where it historically doesn't snow all that much. Back in South Bend, it snowed forty-four (44) inches in a weekend. My wife used the snowblower several times during that storm, clearing as I'd done (the driveway opened into the alley).

She who had been questioning the need for such a big, powerful, machine realized just how downright RIGHT was I. Now every winter when the stores have their snowblower sales she's right there, wondering if it's time to get a 24 inch or a 30 inch or, God help me, a 36 inch.

Just keep saying to yourself, "This is one of those times when bigger really IS better."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rumncoke
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:43 AM

OOOOHHHH - THAT Washington -

It is just weather, of course, nothing to do with climate change.

Remember that the Canadians are sweating for snow for their Winter Olympics - they brought tons in by road and it melted in the rain. Poor things.

Maybe the US could save the day(s) with refridgerated trucks and trains to store and move snow in for the main events. Always assuming anything is moving at all.

We never got more than a sprinkling of snow when the rest of the UK was snowed under for days, so it is really the luck of the draw - though sometimes I think that the weather can have a wicked sense of humour.

Anne Croucher


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: jeffp
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 01:04 PM

I want to reinforce the warning about shoveling snow for us "older" folks. My wife is in the hospital right now from a heart attack caused by shovelling last weekend's snow. Fortunately, it was mild and she's expected to recover fully, but it could have been a lot worse. I've got 3 twenty-somethings shoveling our driveway and front walk. I'm happily paying them the money to do it. BTW, I'm in Crofton, MD and we got at least two feet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 01:10 PM

Well, I donno about that snowblower Sawz... First of all it's too small... Maybe a 60 inch???

I was tellin' the P-Vine that I thougth maybe I oughtta get another dump truck... I used to have one back in Wes Ginny but left it there 'cause it wasn't particually roadworthy... But if I found an old dump truck I could use it as a good farm truck and put a bigass V-plow on it and leave it up here which is the highest part of the farm and wait until the snow had melted and then just make one pass down the hill with it??? I donno...

They keep saying that it only snows like this every 20 years so maybe I'll just do what I'm doin'... 15 gallons of deisel on hand and a 2 gallon jug of hydraulic oil...

Went out at 10:20 and worked until 12:30 and got 210 feet more of drive way open... At this rate I might hit the 500 foot mark by the end of the day... I donno... I'll be gettin' into some tougher areas purdy soon where I'm goin' to have to carve out an area back in the woods for snow as the driveway get real narrow and drops off purdy steep... No place for the faint of heart, fir sure...

Stll haven't heard from my buddy who said hes' gonna work a little on the bottom end... Hope he shows... We gotta be out Tuesday to sign papers on the spec house I built that we have sold... Not gonna miss that, fir sure...

But, mighty purdy up here in the mountain... Beautifil sunny day...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 03:17 PM

Bobert, have you considered tunneling?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 03:29 PM

About a week ago, we had a small-flake, cold, fluffy snow. I had two blowers that I sold to buy a Honda 'cause they got tracks and a hydrostatic drive and are known to REALLY blow.

Now, not a word of lie... it was the FIRST time this winter that I used it (I got a guy with a tractor, on accounta my back, but I still need a blower for te stuff he can't do).

I can easily blow snow from alongside my garage onto my neighbour's garage... about 100'... when he's not at home, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 03:59 PM

Back in April of 1982 we got 2 feet of snow in one storm. The Maine turnpike was closed for almost two hours.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 04:00 PM

What's this I hear -from NPR - that another storm system is expected to hit the DC area on Tuesday night? Stock up, folks. Remember all the things you forgot last time.

And here I sit in Alaska where it's mild and wettish.

At last night's concert they announced the first crocus of spring. I realize that a thousand miles farther south, crocuses are popping up all over- but it is almighty early for us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 04:12 PM

We may not even be dug out by Tuesday... the street has been plowed, but we have almost the only driveway for two blocks, so there is 6' of slushy, plowed 24" deep 'stuff' before we can get TO the street after we have gotten TO the vehicles.
The plow makes no attempt to do one extra push to clear that area.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 05:19 PM

I'm screwed...

The guy who was gonna work down at the bottom was a no-post... I'm gonna call him later tonight but if he can't posdt tomorrow, I'm gonna have to call in Plan B, Mr. Garnett... He'll post...

I finished right at 550 feet today but, geese, I ain't half way out... It wouldn't matter so much but we gotta make it out on Tuesday to sign papers... If it weren't for that I wouldn't care...

(But, Boberdz... Yer down to only 6 beers...)

Ahhhhh, I'm gonna have to get out on Tuesday if I have to walk out...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 05:38 PM

Your street is clearly higher on the plowing priority list than mine, Bill. Not surprising, actually. I'm just hoping they get here by Sometime Tuesday -- just in time for the next round!

I'm taking the digging-out slowly. I shoveled a pedestrian walkway to the street this morning (phase 1), and this afternoon I got MOST of phase 2 -- digging out the car -- done. Now you can see that it's a car, not an igloo. But my back's starting to hurt, so I'm quitting till tomorrow, when I hope to be able to clear the rest of the car with a snow brush (assuming I can get the door open to retrieve the brush...). Phase 3 is the hardest: digging out the driveway wide enough for the car to get through -- not to mention cutting through the plow-leavings. And it's getting harder to dispose of the stuff -- I'm having to lift it pretty high to toss it into a spot I'm not going to have to dig through later....   Ain't this FUN?!

Kendall, you can gloat all you want about how well you handle the snow in Maine, and how much of it you get. I spent four winters in Waterville, and I know Mainers take it in stride and deal with it matter-of-factly. But the fact is that this much snow is a real rarity here, and the municipalities can only justify allotting so much of their annual budgets for something that happens so rarely. Our December storm (15" here in Kensington) made it to eighth place in DC's ALL-TIME biggest snowstorms, and this one (25" here) was ranked 4th, thereby pushing the December one to 9th. Two such big storms in one winter is downright FREAKISH! Anyhow, I'm looking forward to seeing you next weekend, if I can get out of my street...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 05:52 PM

Nancy... I'll swear by the trick of getting a roll of 6 mil plastic from Home Depot, and cutting off a chunk big enuf to cover 'most' of your car...then after you push most of the snow off, you just peel the plastic off and car is clear! No ice in the door...etc.

I have used that twice here to save cars from a predicted ice storm.

(heck, I'm due for a new roll for leaves next year....maybe I'll save you a chunk..)

Darriel & I got 'almost' to the street tonight...I guess we'll finish a path tomorrow....just in time to get out to the store too late to get anything before the NEXT round....


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: maeve
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 06:15 PM

I'm thinking of all of you dealing with the snow this week.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 06:35 PM

doot doot doo, lookin out my back door

http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/blizzard1.jpg


http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/blizzard2.jpg


http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/blizzard3.jpg


http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/blizzard4.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 06:35 PM

Thanks, Maeve, but really this is just an inconvenience -- NOTHING like what you've had to deal with this winter!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: maeve
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 06:39 PM

The snowfall you're dealing with is a bad one for your area. I've dug my way through enough snow storms to empathize with anyone who's struggling to deal with one.

I'd rather face ten blizzards than what my husband and I are facing now. Keep yourselves warm, Nancy and all.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 06:39 PM

find the dog in pic blizzard 4


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 08:50 PM

Look at it this way, it will keep congress from doing anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 09:01 PM

Horrors!!! Where did this rampaging buzzard that is menacing Washington DC come from? Is it a really big and fierce buzzard? Has it carried off children and dogs?

Oh, wait....um...

Sorry. Never mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:09 PM

Blatt Blatt Blatt, Now Hear This:

Issued by The National Weather Service
Baltimore/Washington, MD
8:46 pm EST, Sun., Feb. 7, 2010

... WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

* PRECIPITATION TYPE... SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS... POTENTIAL FOR 5 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW.

* TIMING... MID TO LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

* TEMPERATURES... TEMPERATURES AT OR JUST ABOVE FREEZING AT THE ONSET TUESDAY AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL DROP INTO THE MID TO UPPER 20S TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.

* WINDS... LIGHT SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS TUESDAY BECOMING NORTH- NORTHWESTERLY 15 TO 25 MPH WEDNESDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 10:13 PM

Not a buzzard, a big lizzard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:14 PM

Donuel, beautiful photos, esp. the first one!

jeffp, I am glad your wife will be okay. It's a caution which bears repeating. Thanks for the reminder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 07:46 AM

I was just thinkin' that at the rate I am gettin' dug out that I might be out by Wedenesday...

Now Sawz goes and orders up another snow storm...

These danged Repbs are mean... *grin*...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:59 AM

Bobert, you need a snowmobile or, as they call them out her, a snow machine (also useful for other applications).


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 09:38 AM

Rap, ol' buddy... Neither of those things would get down my driveway... They would get about 30 or 40 feet and the front ends would plow up a wall of snow 10 feet tall in front of them...

I just got off the phone with a guy who has a backhoe to see if I could get him to come out and dig out the bottom 400 or so feet... Hahaha, was about all he had to say.... Apparently the Town of Luray has gone around and drafted every piece of large equipement that is in the area... Like conscription...

I'm waitin' until 10:00 when it up around 15-20 degrees before trying to get Mr. Kabuto outta bed... It was 3 degrees at 7:00... But goin' up to a balmy 34 degrees today so I should get another 500 fett done by the end of the day...

Snow sucks!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 10:11 AM

Beautiful pictures but be very careful, guys. As the snow melts and weighs down the branches and wires, some will come down. Don't be standing under them when it happens.
It will melt eventually.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 11:20 AM

Beaubie, is it possible that the people you are to meet with for the 'signing' will also find it difficult to get there? Have you thought about postponing the ceremony?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 11:49 AM

Bobert, them ain't plows. Them things drive ON TOP of the snow. Now,this is a plow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:18 PM

Blatt Blatt Blatt, It's up to 10 inches now:

* ACCUMULATIONS... POTENTIAL FOR 8 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW. THERE IS A GOOD LIKELIHOOD OF SNOW IN EXCESS OF 10 INCHES.

* TIMING... MID TO LATE AFTERNOON TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

* TEMPERATURES... TEMPERATURES NEAR FREEZING AT THE ONSET TUESDAY AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL DROP INTO THE UPPER 20S TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:25 PM

Yeah, Eb... Just got off the phone with the closing attorney's para-legal... She's gonna talk with the purchaser's attorney and see what's what??? Then, if Thursday is still a "go" I reckon we could concievably walk down to the road tomorrow (before the next snow) morning, have someone pick us up... By the end of the day I'll be around 400 feet from the road (all downhill from there) so that wouldn't be terrible... Of course, delaying the closing a couple days would be the civilized thing but ol' hillbilly needs to get this spec house off his back so if it means walkin' thru a little snow then so be it...

Now as fir Raps snow mobile??? I think that thing would get stuck in a dry parkin' lot, ol' buddy... It ain't got any clearance... Ain't you see those snow machines they use where it really snows??? They got 10 feet of clearance and got chains that go down and turn a sprocket on the spindle... Ya' gotta climb a laddert to get in 'um... That's what I need!!! lol...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Alice
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:29 PM

stop shouting


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:31 PM

It is probably that the place he copied the report from uses caps...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:34 PM

Big storm headed towards Chicago too. Yuk. Sorry folks.
SINS, still relatively snow free.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: maeve
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:36 PM

Bill's correct. The National Weather Service /NOAA uses all caps in their online reports.

How are you all coping with the snow?

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:36 PM

I sympathize. The temperature plummets here at night, ends up around an unliveable 50 degrees F., and barely creeps up to a lousy 65 F. by 9:00 in the morning. The trees, grounds and roads are all covered with piles of sunlight, which dazzles the drivers who forget how to drive during sunlight hours, and make all kinds of stupid mistakes. We have to sweep the stuff off our driveway in order to get out without being blinded....



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:45 PM

It seems we (DC area) are to be on the Southern edge of the new storm, which will hit PA and further north..(Sorry, Maine)

We could get from 4" to 8" or so. This one will be colder, so easier to shovel, but some blowing and dangerous for homeless and those outside.

*Sawz...make clear which area YOU are concerned with... Delaware?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:45 PM

Sorry. All I did was copy and paste what the weather channel had on their site Issued by The National Weather Service
Baltimore/Washington, MD
11:58 am EST, Mon., Feb. 8, 2010


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 01:46 PM

Amos... face East and BLOW!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 02:02 PM

Cabin fever setting in, Bill? You rarely rise to the occasion.
We are supposed to get a dusting Wednesday - in Maine terms 4-6"


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 02:09 PM

nawww...I get out of my cabin every 2-3 hours...have only foot or so of icy snow and I'll be all the way to the street!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 02:14 PM

(we could easily manage for another week before groceries become a problem, but we MUST keep up with the snow, because our driveway entrance gets buried by the plows, and I can't afford to wait until I do NEED to be out to start....and Darriel has these two days off to help. If he wasn't here, I'd be forced to pay someone.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 02:30 PM

About that closing, Bobert...

It may be that with technology, you don't actually have to be there. If you expect it to go smoothly, you might be able to fax in your signed documents.

I believe that there are procedures in place to make facsimile signatures acceptable even in court documents.

Why don't you have a talk with the person in charge and see what can be done if you can't clear your driveway?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 02:33 PM

Donuel, you said to find the dog in Photo 4.

Is it the quadruped-shaped object to the left of the tiki torch?

If so, isn't your dog getting a little too sedentary?

========
We have had light snow here in Missouri - just enough to be beautiful. I have five cardinals outside my window right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 03:22 PM

Ok, here are images from my last 36 hours

We are essentially there... we have one day before more snow...

(that last one is out of order)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 05:42 PM

Back by Popular Demand:

Mo Snow:

issued by the national weather service
baltimore/washington, md
3:04 pm est, mon., feb. 8, 2010
... winter storm warning in effect from noon tuesday to 7 pm est wednesday...
the national weather service in sterling virginia has issued a winter storm warning for... which is in effect from noon tuesday to 7 pm est wednesday. the winter storm watch is no longer in effect.
* precipitation type... snow.
* accumulations... 10 to 20 inches.
* timing... mid-afternoon tuesday through wednesday.
* temperatures... temperatures near freezing at the onset tuesday afternoon. temperatures will drop into the upper 20s tuesday night and wednesday.
* winds... light southeasterly winds tuesday becoming northwesterly 15 to 25 mph wednesday.
precautionary/preparedness actions...
a winter storm warning means significant amounts of snow are expected or occurring. the combination of snow and strong winds will make travel very hazardous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 05:54 PM

Those darned Republicans will do anything to stop DC from working...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 06:07 PM

I guess the Peps are tough or at least hard-headed- they don't seem to mind being inconvenienced themselves, just so long as they can have an impact on the good folks.

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 06:42 PM

Okay, I have added two people to my "must kill" list...

Sniff, I loves Amos like he was my brother but after the sweeping sunshine off their driveway, I'm gonna have to kill him... Yeah, it's gonna a bad thing but, hey...

And ppor ol' Sawz... Just never knows when to leave things alone... Gotta order up more snow so killin him won't be a hard... I mean, I been out there for three whole days digin', diggin' and diggin' more and he goes and orders up some more of this... The boy gotta go...

Yeah, leeneia, we're on to that but, as per usaul, there are other things goin' on that are harder to get a hnadle on...

Now, here's the kicker... Every piece of equipement in the County has been commondeered by the governement... Yeah, make ya' wnat join the tea baggers (lol)... But my buddy, Ed, who works on one of the larger farms in the county and has the Rolls Royce of tractors... I mean, this baby has a heated cab with surround sound stereo and a bigass one yard bucket and bigass engine and tires and all the cool stuff that folks write country songs about... Well, he just called and he's gonna give it a try... Yup, night and everything... He's gonna drive that bigass tractor up into Pine Grove tonight and try to dig the rest of the hill out... Man, geeze oh Pete...

I mean, I don't care if he actually break thru-- Well, that's not true seein' as I was resolved to walkin' the heck out in 24 inches of snow tomorrow for beer-- but the thought that this guy is gonna do this fir me makes me humbled... Yeah, I do let him use some property I own and don't charge him no rent but, hey, this is a biggie... Maybe he will break thru and I'll be drivin' out to get my beer tomorrow... Then maybe I'll buy a winning lotta ticket at the beer joint and buy California... Yeah, that's what I'llo do... I'll buy California and throw Amos out... Then I won't have tyo kill him!!! That would be nice... Maybe Amos could live in a snow covered state without no beer... Hmmmmmmm???? I'm kinda likin' this...

Come on, Ed... Bust thru, Baby, Bust thru... (Kinda a Ms. Sarah ripoff...)

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 06:48 PM

Man, I LIKE beer, but I hope I never think I NEED it that bad.

Amos....blow HARDER.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 07:03 PM

The Wife and I went over to the Safeway and it was closed.

The roof fell in.

There is six foot banks of snow along all the highways. The turn lanes are not cleared.

People have to walk in street. Every place there is a place to walk is like a WW2 trench.

Half of the parking spaces are piled up 12' high with snow. Some piles look to be nearly 20' high.

There is no place to put it and maybe 20 more inches coming.

Snowmageddon is here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 07:25 PM

Well, Bill, the shine is almost gone!!!

What's a guy to do??? Drink water??? lol... No, seriously, what's a guy to do???

That's what it is like here, too, Sawz... I have piled snow as high as my bucket goes which is.... Ahhhhh, high... Everywhere we go it's just like that... Sorry about havin' to kill ya' but that extra snow was uncalled for... Don't take it personal 'cause i'm gonna have to kill Amos, too...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:04 PM

I done told you to move to the tropical clime of Idaho, Bobert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:09 PM

"What's a guy to do???"

Be like those Jivaro indians...plan a-head.

Beer don't spoil if you buy several cases. Oh...you DID? Well, gee.....

We were lucky...went to Safeway which has an underground parking garage, and it was fine. No milk, bread or bananas, of course, be we have milk for a couple of days and bread for a week... got boneless chicken breasts on sale and various snacks. We'll survive up to a week or more if we don't get out at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:18 PM

Bill:

I am of the opinion you-all should move to Southern California, frankly. The photos demonstrate that this "winter" of which you speak is not healthy for you. Or that car, either, which I last saw looking much happier in the parking lot at Camp Getaway.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:44 PM

Beaubear, I think your change of plans is a good one. Buy California - one can always use a California. And I think a change of climate would do Amos a whole world of good. It's for your own good, Amos, so don't cry so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:52 PM

Bobez:

Well, you'd have to unload that hotel first, so your credit looked good, but iffen you did that, I think Awhnoldt might jes' sell it to you. You do realize it's a turn-around operation, upside down and in the red, but maybe a nice advertising camapign or something would fix it up.

Don't ask me for help, though. Kick me out of California and I am likely to head for the Maldives or the ISlands of Kama Sutra or somp'n...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:54 PM

There, Amos... You heard it from the high chief-ess...

Better pack yer bags... Nevermind packing the shorts and flip-flops... You won't be in need of 'um in the tundra...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 09:11 PM

That dang El Niño starts right there in San Diego Caleefornia and causes all this crap to be blown all the way over here.

They say every trend starts on the left coast and spreads to the rest of the US.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 11:24 PM

You folks in the US have weather. We, in Canada, have climate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 02:20 AM

Crap

another 20 inches headed this way. The roof already has 6 tons on it.

I have moved 3 tons of snow already from the driveway and out back.
Driving is a wild slide ride on the unplowed connecting street.
The power has been out twice. I put an inverter on the one car but it wouldn't start after shoveling 50 feet to get to it. Then I put the inverter on the Buick and got the furnace blower up and running with an extension cord until the power came back 3 hours later.
Safeway grocery store is out of eggs tomatos bananas produce in general but I did get a watermellon ?!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,LynnT
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 05:26 AM

Sunday morning there were a flock of over 100 robins high up in our oak trees, soaking up the early sun. They were so puffed up for warmth, they didn't look like robins at first. The neighbor says the gang had been there over a week, eating the holly berries, though those are all gone now -- probably why the robins weren't there yesterday morning. I've never seen flocks of them before. They must have come north in last week's warm weather, then gotten caught in the storms. This was in Lanham, a couple miles east and south of Bill's house (think 2:00 on the Beltway clock-face). Another friend says there's a flock like that in her oaks over in Tacky Park too, closer to where Bill lives.

Hope they don't all end up as birdsicles.

Lynn T


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:02 AM

Well, I gotta a big machine on the way!!! Hooray!!!

Might get out just in time to get snowed in again???

Climate/weather, weather/climate... Ya'll Canooks can talk all ya' want but you can't even hold a winter olympics 'cause ya'll don't got no snow... You gotta import it... What's that all about???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:50 AM

10 - 20 inches expected tonight and tomorrow...

Lonely here at work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:02 AM

Lynn, you can help the robins by providing water. If there's no free water, they have to eat snow and lose precious body heat to do it.

They also eat sunflower seed in winter when there are no insects. Other seeds too, perhaps, but I'm familiar with the sunflower.


Bobert, too bad my fax idea didn't work. Glad to hear about the neighbor with the tractor.

Dont buy CA till you've checked the liability issues - landslides, fires, vulcanism etc. There's a reason CA is a bargain right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 01:18 PM

re: moving to S. California... when deciding between a deep snow every 15-10 years and fires, mudslides, earthquakes and huge budget problems every year, I think I'll stay put.

(typed this BEFORE the next snow, which might make me think twice)

I am as ready as I can be....


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 01:21 PM

I'm with you, Bill.

(But I do wish they'd plow the damn street...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 01:37 PM

You're on the list, Nancy....as my daddy used to say: "Next October, at 4 o'clock"

I'm sure the light traffic down there must be a virtue....350+ days a year.

(Some idiot in a plowing truck did our street again last night, neatly covering up parking spaces that folks had spent 2 days digging out! Several people went out and told him to GO AWAY!}

The problem is that once they start a run where it 'seems' to be a good idea, they can't just stop at selected spots in the middle. They gotta find a place for the final load, and stuff keeps escaping off the sides, like it was designed to do. I did convince him to push one big pile into an empty spot on the curb, creating one parking space to replace one he buried.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 01:38 PM

Well, betweem my tractor and my buddy's bigass New Holland we "got her done".... What's it been??? 4 days on the tractor??? And more snow comin' tonight and tomorrow??? I can live with 12 inches... Anymore and I'm gonna...

(Ahhhhh, what are ya gonna' do, Bobz???)

I donno but I'm workin' on it...

At least I'll have beer...

No, shine left...

Sniff...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 01:40 PM

Just for the record, kids, I was raised in High Snow country, Connecticut and Vermont. That's why I am so content to leave snow in the memory file and enjoy sunlight in real time.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,LynnT
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 03:20 PM

I did see the robins drinking snowmelt on the cleared driveways before they moved on.

We've been putting out seed, Leeneia, and even trekked out to Annapolis yesterday to replenish ---safflower in one feeder, peanuts in another, suet seedcakes, and mixed millet etc in another. Periodically the grackles mob through and push everyone else out of the way, but otherwise it's eastern juncoes, nuthatches, titmice, cardinals, a pair of mourning doves, an occasional bluejay, and the odd downy or spotted woodpecker taking turns. Richard says he's seen an eastern towhee, but I missed it.

Lynn


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 05:23 PM

Well, Blizzard #3 of the season has begun in earnest here on God's Holler... I wish it could just snow 24/7 forever... I love being without beer... An' electricty... An' water... An' I Love Lucy" reruns... An' my computer... I just loves it!!! Maybe some who is better connected with the Big Guy could arrange that for me... I woud be so appreciative...

...'an 200!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 05:30 PM

As I posted earlier the roof failures are now beggining.

I made a roof snow rake out of 3 pvc pipes and t fittings and u fittings glued with pvc cement and steel duct tape.
The middle is double 3/4 tubing bound by duct tape so it does not bend too much.
On the rake end I strung nylon string like a snow shoe lace.
It is 30 feet long and flexible enough to work on a second story.
On one story roofs it will go all the way to the crest.
It takes 30 minutes to make.

The average house here has 6 tons of snow on it. Another 20 inches will compromise many more roofs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 05:37 PM

Ok, Bobert...you got it. He'll even add character to the snow for you.

Anything else I can do?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 05:39 PM

I did some on my roof, but just had no energy & time to do it all. I did clear a metal awning which was looking shaky.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 07:02 PM

Well, we finally got the plow! -- Shortly after the second snowstorm started. Still predicting 10-15" for this area by tomorrow evening. We shall see....


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 07:09 PM

Did some more on my roof...especially clearing around the vents which come up from the bathrooms. No way I can physically 'clear' the entire roof, but there are spots I want to relieve.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 07:31 PM

Sheet fire, folks...

If you live in a somewhat well built house yer roof ain't gonna collapse on you... And if you live in a crappy-shack then most likely yer roof ain't gonna collapse on you yet...

...I turned on the news tonight an' that's all the news folks want to talk about???

Like what are they tryin' to do??? Scare the crap outta everyone, 'er what??? next thing ya' know the hospiatls are gonna be filled up with people who allready have 20+ inches of snow on and around their houses out there with ladders trying to get up on their roofs with shovels... Now ol' hillbilly might not be the brightest bulb in the shop but I can see it now... Thousands of people with broken this an' thats... Oh, those will be the lucky ones... Lotta o' 'um be dead from fallin' off roofs... I mean, this is somekinda Darwin experiement, right??? Scare everyone into thinkin' that their roofs are gonna fall on them and then see how many are stupid enough to try to get up on their roofs with shovels???

I mean, I'd love to blame this all on Rush Limbaigh 'er someone else as evil but these newsfolks ain't all Rush wanta-bees...

Hey, a little common sense, por favor... Don't get up on you roof!!!

And Bill-Dee... I didn't get that cartoon??? Maybe too much moonshine over the last few days but I really didn't get it but...

...I'm smart enough to not be up on my roof...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:23 PM

The snow rake I made is handled from the ground. Thats why it has a 30+ft flexible shaft and angled snow shoe like rake at the end.

No one should try getting on an icy roof that is already heavier than the roof has ever been in its lifetime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:34 PM

Well, Donuel... I know that you is smart 'nuff to stay off the roof and also smart 'nuff to invent somethin' to get the snow off the roofs...

I wish that the DC TV stations had you on their programs tonight... All they talked about was collapsed roofs with no, none, nada, zip on what to do other than the implied: "Get the snow off yer roof"

Even Bill-Dee, our resident philosohy major, was perhaps up on his roof, I donno... But maybe...

I mean, lets get real here... The chnaces of yer roof fallin' in are alot less than yer chances of gettin' hurt 'er gettin' dead from gettin' up on yer roof in the middle of a blizzard...

Wished the news shows had talked more about that than scaring the crap outta everyone... I'll guarentee that the ERs will be filled tonight with people tryin' to get snow off their roof...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:46 PM

I was up there...deep snow...easy footing...cleared the vent pipes and a valley that collects extra stuff. Easy footing, took NO chances...I'm not crazy.

    well...not about snow...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:52 PM

Today I was on a ladder cutting fallen branches off my internet cable wire with a 8ft. extendable pole chain saw. When I was through, the wire went back up about 10 feet. Then I;
made the rake, went shopping twice, walked the dog twice, cleared more snow..
all the while on a crutch and in relentless searing hip pain.

Now after a dinner of BBQ ribs, salad and mac&cheese I am full of pain killers motrin vitamins and all is well in the world as I listen to Joshua Bell and complain about the snow on mudcat forum.



PS I recomend the movie 'The Invention of Lieing" The way it handles religion is the best I've seen in awhile. I give it 2.7 stars as an offbeat comedy.

I give 'The Man Who Sued God' 3.2 stars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:53 PM

Bill you madman!   Correction... YOU SPRY MADMAN!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:07 PM

Yeah... I am almost embarrassed to still be able to do all that at 71.
I have shoveled more snow the last 4 days than I have in 15 years.

I can't say I don't feel it, but I durned well am gonna do what I can do! (soon... nice, hot shower)

(Oh...maybe I will scoop off the first 3 or 3 inches of new snow from my path and driveway. It is STILL easier to do 4 inches 3 times than 12" at once.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:37 PM

They sell rake-like things to pull snow off a roof. Probably don't have them in DC though, and probably not for two-story houses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:39 PM

While you're at it, consider those folks with FLAT roofs and what the snow is doing to them -- not just the downward pressure, but the leaks being forced open.

Is this...could this...be part of a government plan to create jobs in the building industry? Or, it just occurred to me, a plan by Bobert??


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:51 PM

Thank goodness Richmond won't get much of it - they're saying just a couple of inches. I think north of Fredericksburg is where it gets serious. I'll be thinking sympathetically about the folks in DC but am mighty grateful that we'll be spared.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 10:03 PM

ahhhh...NICE hot shower! I feel almost rejuvenated! Time go go out and shovel the....naawwww....let it snow!

You wanta know hoe serious the snow is? We just had a half-grown raccoon on our birdfeeder! He was hanging from a limb lime squirrel and barely reaching sunflower seeds in the top compartment. We took flash pics and went out on the porch 10 ft. away and all he did was look and try once more.
   I don't think he got enough to help his obvious hunger, but it was just too hard for him and he finally gave up. Kinda feel sorry for him, but not a lot I can do. (Last year we had 'em in the attic. I plugged the hole and we thought they were gone.)

Tough on everyone, this weather.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 10:09 PM

Yessiree -- my wife was going to fly out of BWI on Monday. Then she was flying out on Thursday. Now I hope to meet her in SLC on Sunday.

Look, she's a nice person and all, but I would like her back home for a little while.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 10:57 PM

Think she'll bring the snow with her, Rap?:-)

BillD..I wanna see those pix! Puir little guy. I hope he survives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 11:59 PM

Rapaire, Home Depot had 48 roof rakes for sale last Sunday but they are all gone, so I had to make one and improve upon its design and reach.

Necessity is the mother of intention, um infection, aha invention.

Frank Zappa is its father.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 07:53 AM

Well, looks as if we are gonna dodge part if the bucket here in Pine Grove Holler... About 4 inches of new snow and maybe another 4 before it stops... 4 + 4 = 8, right??? 8 < 28, right??? Works for me...

Snow-rakeless Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 08:46 AM

The roof on our Safeway did not collapse. It was leaking so bad they closed the store along with another one that was leaking.

The roof on a firehouse in Fairfax county collapsed and another is in danger.

However with the 25"+ snow we have plus maybe plus another 10 to 20 will be hard roofs. And guess what? More coming on Monday. Right now it says showers.

We are now under a Blizzard warning.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:01 AM

Good news, Sawz... Gonna be in the high 30s for the next several days... Lotta snow gonna melt...

Hadn't heard about the Fairfax Fire Station roof but then again I'm purposely stayin away from the TV other than an occasional check in...

The snow has really lightened up here... Looks like about 5 inches... I'll give it another hour and then go out and shovel the paths around the house and work on the driveway...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:04 AM

There is no blizzard coming to the DC area. Obviously it's already there -- and brought friends. Just plain old party crashers. You should call the cops and have them removed before all your booze is drunk up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,bigrickpa(no cookie)
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:06 AM

up here on the mason-dixon line, we have a ft. of new snow with 20+ expected along with winds 25-30 mph and gusts to 40.as of 8:30 this am, we've had 42 in. since fri. bobert, you're right about not getting on the roof, but i don't want to lose my house, so i'll have to take the chance. flat roofs are not made for this, the store i am remodeling in md was sagging enough to crack and buckle the walls i had done last week when i went in mon. night. don't know about now, cause i ain't leavin' home til' this is over!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:14 AM

They were saying Richmond would get off lightly - but here's what I woke up to this morning and it's still coming down... Snowy Richmond


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:50 AM

There have been more roof collapses in Southern Maryland and they are giving warnings on the Eastern Shore.

One guy had his roof collapse under him when he was trying to clear the snow.

The building departments will have a heyday over this and over react just like they did in 1973 when a high rise under construction collapsed in Bailey's Crossroads Virginia.

For years after that it was almost impossible to get a permit. It was like they just didn't want anything built.

Anyhoo the wind is picking up now and it is hard to see across the street. Supposedly we have 7 1/2 " of new snow so far.

Yesterday I was going to move several big piles of snow in a parking lot out of the way to make room for some more big piles. It took me 4 hours just to move one pile with my 1/2 yard bucket. I gave up on the rest.

I am afraid when I get all outfitted with a 3 point snow blower it will be another 5 to 7 years before we get this much snow. By then I probably wont be able anyway.


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From: Bat Goddess
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 10:00 AM

Gotta sign in to see your pictures, Mary -- and if you decide not to do that, the site gets you in a loop within the site so that you can't back arrow back to Mudcat.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 10:09 AM

When I got up at 7:30, there was maybe 4-5 inches of new stuff. Went to take a bath and do a few other things, and just looked outside again -- it's snowing like crazy! If it keeps up like this all day, we'll have LOTS. Still predicting a total of 8-12 for this area for Round 2. Wonder if I'll be able to get out on Thursday morning?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 10:23 AM

You call that snow, mary??? That's what we would call a dusting... Just funnin'...

My fondest Richmond snow memory was bad around '83... I think it was Feb 17 or 18th 'cause there was a party scheduled for the 17th in NoVa and I had it written on the chalk board in the hall... Anyway, a bunch of folks from Richmond went up to this party 'cause it was being thrown by a woman who had moved up there... Sunday mornin' rolls around and they said it was gonna snow so I beat feet back to Richmond... Started snowin' hard around Ashland and I barely made it back to my house in Woodland Height just south of the James River...

I was smart 'cuase everyone else go snowed into that 2 bedroom apartment in NoVa... Think there were about 15 people and it took days to get them out...

But nevermind them...

The day after it snowed was a Monday and I was workin' for the City of Richmond as a social worker and they told everyone to stay home from work... Reckon there was around a foot of snow, which for Richmond is alot... So me and my dog and my wife took off walkin'... Walked over the Lee Bridge and thru Oregon Hill to the Fan District where we visited with friends and made the best of it... I took my ol' Honetwell Pentex 35mm camera with me and still have a dozen or so pictures of that snow that I took during the day...

The End of My Richmond Snow Story...

Now, ya'll who are in the middle of the worst of it... Be safe... No gettin' up on the roof, por favor...

Now I'm gonna get bundled up and go have at my new snow...

Later...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 11:22 AM

We are now within a couple inches of the snowiest Winter since 1899 in the Wash area. 54 in. is the record, and it's over 50 in places. As Nancy said, it's snowing pretty steady, with moderate wind. I am not even going OUT for awhile, much less on the roof.

(You DO provide roof repair for those who take your advice, huh, Bobert 'ol buddy?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 11:59 AM

Maryland and DC just cancelled plowing because it is too dangerous. Hunker down folks. I would love to snuggle in with a good book and a glass of wine but ALAS no snow in Maine. I am beginning to feel like Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 11:59 AM

Well, I DID go out....in front to refill the birdfeeders. It wasn't bad...

(the new snow is colder and ligher...not difficult to make a 10 ft.pathh to the feeders.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 12:05 PM

Seems to me you all in Maine and the area had your share earlier......now if you really feel left out, I'll send this on up...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 12:15 PM

I think the "blizzard" designation has to do with wind and white-out conditions, which we ARE getting. That's why the plows have stopped for a while. The Maryland transportation guy said they didn't order them stopped, but told drivers they have the option to pull over until conditions improve.

At the moment I can hardly see out my window, because the wind has plastered snow to the screen.

Say, check out this cool video., which Animaterra linked to on Facebook. I'd seen it on TV a couple of days ago, but then couldn't find it again. Check out the trees in the background.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Alice
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 12:40 PM

Very cool video! Thanks for linking that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 01:12 PM

No, Bill, I ain't relacing no roofs and I ain't replacing no legs or arms that might get broken off from folks thinkin' that gettin' up on their roofs is a good idea...

Cool video, Nancy...

Ahhhhh, real sorry for and Mudders who are stuck in the white out... It missed us by about 30 miles to the north from what I can tell...

The good news is that there is this round yeller thing in the sky right behind it and everyone shoule see a little of it before the end of the day...

We got lucky here... 'Bout 6 inches... I've allready plowed it down to the road but have problems at the bottom of the hill with ice... Took a half an hour of serious Back draggin' (tractor term) to bust it up enough to make it back up that section of driveway but it's gonna need either some meltin' or some more back draggin' before it will be passable for my 4WD truck...

Hope everyone is safe.... An' warm...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 01:19 PM

Jeepers! Up here in the Great White Frozen, the snowmobilers are pissed!

In Moncton, New Brunswick right now... 5C, sun, no wind. Haven't seen such a nice winter for near ten years.

Ahhhh... shhhhhhhh, not so loud, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Alice
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 01:21 PM

and the poor little teddy bear in the video foreground got buried


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 01:40 PM

I am watching TV video of guys with shovels AND a small snowblower removing snow from school roofs. Someone is concerned.

Flat roofs are a real concern, even though this snow is lighter than the last one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 03:28 PM

National weahter service says: "BLIZZARD WARNING NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING"

It is snowing like hell and looking at the radar map it is just rotating in place and not moving off to the east or northeast as usual for any storm system. More moisture is coming ashore in New England and turning into snow while the whole thing is circulating CCW.

Even if it stopped right now it would take a week to get back to normal. I don't have any front steps anymore. Not a damned thing is moving out there.

Maybe this was what those rumored secret Pentagon briefings were about. I heard 36" Others said 48". Looks like if there were warnings like this it would not be kept secret.

I am wondering about people with oil heat or LP gas heat. How are they getting deliveries? I have Natural Gas heat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 04:01 PM

Just heard that this season's total snowfall has surpassed the all-time record with 54.9". So the winter of 2009-2010 has had even more than the famous winter of 1898-99. And there's several more weeks of winter left to go...

Actual snowfall is tapering off now, but it's kinda hard to tell, because there's still so much wind it's all blowing around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 04:14 PM

My son & I have cleared the walk from our downstairs door to the drive, and an area behind the car, which is parked almost to the street. So...it won't be TOO hard to get onto the street...whenever the street is worth getting onto. Shoveling was 'relatively' easier than last time, except for the higher piles to toss it over.
As Nancy says, the snow is a bit lighter, and not building up so fast. I think the worst is over as far as accumulation....digging out the whole state? HA!
Governor O'Malley just said ALL counties are 'red' for a state of emergency...and *grin*...he told folks to STOP demanding that their streets be scraped down to the pavement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 04:24 PM

Well, as they say out here, "This is Idaho. It snows here. Sometimes it snow a lot. Get used to it."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 04:33 PM

This Maryland...it often doesn't snow at all here. We don't intend to get used to it.

(Sorry about your wife, Rap..we thought she'd be honored to be here when we set the all-time snow record. We'll send her home in a few....mumble...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 05:53 PM

Yeah, well, winding down it may be, but lemme tell ya, it's still miserable out there. And it is still actually snowing -- the blowing and drifting is just an added bonus. Looks to me like we've had 10-12 inches this go-round, but it really is hard to tell because of all the drifting. And it's cold, too. Every shovelfull gets blown back in my face after I fling it as high as I can to reach the top of the existing pile. And maybe someday I'll own a warm hat that doesn't slip down over my eyes every 2-3 minutes.   Piss and moan, piss and moan....

So Phase 1-B is now complete: I have a path to the street, for whatever good that does. Street is once again completely impassable, and I guess we've slipped down to the bottom of the plowing priority list again. For a while last night I thought I might actually be able to get out on Thursday to start off for snow-free Maine, but right now it's not looking too good. We shall see.

The only good news (other than that I still have power) is that under today's layer of snow I found the newspapers for Saturday through today, obviously delivered in the brief interval between last night's plowing and today's impassability. No mail yet, though -- not even bills and ads.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 08:11 PM

The snow is waist deep so having to use a crutch or a staff is actually utilitarian and helps balance in slippery spots. Shoveling on crutches, cutting branches etc is not that hard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:27 PM

It has slacked up here but there is one last hopefully short blast coming.

The record for a single winter in MD was 62.5" in 1996.

Four hours ago it was up to 77.3" for the season.

This is the worst season for me and everybody I know. The big problem is it did not melt between the first two storms in January.

It is going to be a long time before this melts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: M.Ted
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 12:39 AM

I grew up in the Midwest, and thought I'd moved away from all this, but I guess not.

The last thing I did before it started to snow yesterday was to get a crisp pile of tens from the ATM, for the nice people who come around and offer to dig me out, because I know that whatever they ask will be cheaper than the co-pay for an ER visit-


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 03:43 PM

How are things in the DC area today? We have a meeting with a Food Safety Organization in Arlington tomorrow morning (Friday) and can't contact anybody in their offices - I'm assuming they're closed. Anybody have an idea of what it will be like Friday (i.e. how close are they to digging everybody out?) We don't really want to drive all the way from Richmond only to find nobody there...are businesses starting go go back to work???


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 04:48 PM

It's bright & sunny, but chilly. No buses running, and all govt. offices closed, as crews try to catch up. It's possible to get about on main streets, and many side streets, but not always easy to park anywhere, as that's where the snow was put. By Friday, it will be... ummm... 'better'. I'd wait until I got a phone call thru and confirmation of meeting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:00 PM

We got out today... But not without one wild, white-knuckle ride down the last 300 feet on the driveway (straight down, BTW) on the tractor with the front bucket tilted all the way down with so much pressure on the blade that the front tires (steering) were off the ground a good 4 inches and the rear blade adjused down toward the starboard side... Lotta chewin' goin' on there... Didn't break anything but that sumabichin' driveway's stranglehold on our freedom!!!

Life is good...

Tell, ya'll what... I just might look into that snowblower that Sawz found... Maybe a 5 or 6 footer, tho...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:09 PM

We did get a confirmation. The person we are supposed to meet with has been stuck at home with his family and no electricity. He said that come what may he WILL get to work on Friday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 12:22 AM

There were 5 and 6 footers on Criagslist, not too far away.

We officially got 20 more inches. We are up to 79.9" for the season, breaking the previous record of 62.5" by 17.4" We are 4" shy of the record for February.

We dug out today and it was not too bad. Not near as bad as I thought it would be.

The street is clear and dry. Some guy had a Bobcat stashed in his garage and he did the street. A gigantic loader looking thing with a plow did the road.

I don't believe much is open for business so we just stayed home.

School is closed for the week.

The postman must be buried in a drift somewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,fretless
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 08:42 AM

So here's Friday: the federal and Arlington county governments have reopened, schools and such remain closed, and the public transit system is still only partially functional (limited bus service; subway only to underground and a limited number of outdoor stations). My Metro stop is above ground and shut, and I'm telecommuting.

And here's a wish for the able-bodied neighbors who haven't bothered to shovel their sidewalks: may the melting snow flow merrily into your basements!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:36 AM

We live on a street that doesn't have sidewalks. Not sure why...there are sidewalks starting about a block & ½ away, but there's an area of about 5-6 'blocks', criss-crossed by 6-7 streets, where they just didn't bother. My street is a major route for kids to walk to a couple of neighborhood school, and *shrug*...they just walk in the street....and a lot of them with an 'attitude' (4-5 abreast, reluctant to get out of the way of cars).

Well, it does save ME the work of clearing walks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 10:16 PM

I had to go to Arlington today - I could see the aftermath of DC's "Snowmaggeddon". Incredible - I saw cars still buried up to their roofs and in some cases you could only see the very tops of the parking meters! Traffic was a mess and heading back to Richmond we got on Route 1 and it was paralyzed, so we decided to try some side streets. Well those side streets were still snow covered - DEEP snow covered. A truck ahead of us got stuck and it took around 20 minutes and three people pushing (being all dressed up for a business meeting we couldn't help) to get it going and unblock the street. Richmond's snow was pretty tame in comparison, although of course it still brought everything to a screeching halt and decimated the grocery store shelves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: maeve
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 12:53 AM

Nancy King arrived safely in Maine.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 10:27 PM

Got mail today but the garbage man is nowhere to be seen and there is no place to put out the garbage.

We are still looking at 6' snowbanks along every street and road with 10' High plies at the intersections.

Another Alberta Clipper is headed this way for a Monday night snowfall. Hopefully no too deep, a few inches but hell, we are getting toughened up and ready for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 10:38 PM

Grab some more groceries, everyone!

maeve, thanks for letting us know. Glad to hear that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 07:34 AM

1 to 3 inches is what we're hearin' so no reason to panic...

I spent 3 hours yesterday diggin' out the 200 foot drive way to thr speck house that I am right in the middle of sellin'... Most of it hadn't been touched since the snow before last so was deep... But at least if we get a phone call from our buyer this morning from DC sayin' he wants to come up (down) and see his house he'll be able to drive to the door...

I'm going to be checkin' into the snow blower... The part that kinda concerns me is that seein' as the the driveway goes down from our house and barns it seems that I would have to work backwards or I'd be driving over and thru snow with the tractor before the snow blower got there... In a deep snow that definately woudln't work 'er the tractor would be stuck in no time with snow banked uo against the front of it...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: GUEST,fretless
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 11:18 AM

Article in the Outlook section of the Wsahington Post this AM explaining why brown snowless hills in Vermont and snowdrifts in DC are EXACTLY the weather we can come to expect with global warming. Not that this will silence the skeptics...


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 11:20 AM

Hey, guys? I'm looking to sell some top quality Canadian snow that has collected on my roof and yard during December/Jan/Feb till now. It's clean, it's pure, it's cold, and it's Canadian. And the price is right! PM me at your earliest convenience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 11:28 AM

I'll take it if you bundle it up, Little Hawk. We're about to forget what snow looks like in southeast Alaska.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 11:52 AM

VANCOUVER NEEDS YOUr snow!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 09:26 AM

Bobert:

Congrats on selling your spec house. You probably have a lot of sweat equity in it.

It ain't easy selling anything these days much less getting a loan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Nancy King
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:05 PM

Hey, Maeve, thanks for updating folks! Yes, I did make it to Maine, though getting out of my street was a chancy business. Anyhow, I had a lovely time there (sans snow!), and it was great to see -- and hear! -- Maeve and many other good buddies. Dan and I both had a fine time, despite the long drive. The drive home always seems particularly tedious, but we made it to his house in PA last night about 10 pm, and I got home to Maryland about noon today. Getting into my driveway was challenging, but I made it! Still LOTS of snow around here! ...and more expected today and tonight, though not much, and mixed with rain. Ugh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:14 PM

"We ain't sure eggsactly what yer gonna get on YOUR street tonight, but we can predict you ain't gonna like it."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: maeve
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:20 PM

You're welcome, Nancy. It was a treat to all gather together and sing. I'm glad you and Dan arrived home safely.

We're expecting several inches of snow to make an entrance in Midcoast Maine sometime Tuesday afternoon/evening.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:24 PM

6" or more due tomorrow in NH and SW Maine. YUK! But 6" isn't much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:17 PM

We ain't sure eggsactly what yer gonna get on YOUR street tonight, but we can predict you ain't gonna like it."


You're right. It plummeted to 58 last night here, and an hour after sunrise it had only gotten up to 65¼ F. I hate winter... Friend of mine said he had to go find his furnace the other day it got so cool after sundown. Can you believe that?



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: gnu
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:40 PM

Little Hawk... send us a taste before we cough up the coin?
Gee... we still don't have much. And even though it has been snowing steadily since before dawn (Moncton, New Brunswick), there's only about two inches. And it's not staying on the pave much. Temps to be 0 to 3C all week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 03:41 PM

Bite us, Amos!!!

Beem snowin' here allready today but stopped fir now... But if we end up with 6 inches, so be it... That is two trips down the driveway with the rear angled blade down and we're out... No biggie...

As fir this area being the new ski capital of country, I wouldn't go building the chelets yet... These el ninas ain't all that consistent... Next year will prolly be like the last 10 or so...

Sweat equity, Sawz??? Nah, jus' the sweat... Lost a bunch of money but with the housing market in the crapper, I'm just gald to have it behind me...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:36 PM

Well, we were ready...but it seems to be over.

Hey Nancy.... you need to have connections! ...and put out milk & cookies hot coffee. see what you can get?

They cleared our entire block and kept going....not sure how far.





(Yeah... I know...it makes no sense how they allocate snow removal resources...but it sure relieved the stresses in MY area)


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 12:50 AM

Today's snow fizzled out. Maybe an inch or two.

Combined with what we already had on the ground it was enough to keep the schools closed tomorrow.

I told my wife, a teacher, we might as well give up on this year and start over again in the fall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 10:54 AM

I'm glad I'm not commuting anywhere these days. It looks clear until you reach a spot where lanes narrow, or a turn lane is blocked.

A 4 lane road that narrows to 3...or 2½... for even 100 yards is just a 2½ lane road with miles of parking lot. We found one of those yesterday. Took 15 minutes to cover what is usually a 3 minute trip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 08:25 PM

Another 5 or more inches?

The snow has melted to the point that I can see a few patches of grass in the yard.

The schools finally opened on time Monday.

The roadsides have been cleared but there is an ugly aftermath.

The filthy looking roadside snowbanks have mangled up road signs, mailboxes and shopping carts protruding like mammoth bones on the tundra.

Surprise. They are warning about another 5 or more more inches.

Issued by The National Weather Service
Baltimore/Washington, MD
5:58 pm EST, Tue., Feb. 23, 2010

Winter storm watch remains in effect from late wednesday night through late thursday night...

A winter storm watch remains in effect from late wednesday night through late thursday night.

* precipitation type... Snow.

* accumulations... Potential for snow accumulations of 5 or more inches.

* timing... A mix of rain and snow wednesday evening will become all snow between midnight and 3 am wednesday night. Snow is expected to continue thursday and thursday night.

* temperatures... Lows in the upper 20s wednesday night. Highs in the lower to mid 30s thursday. Lows in the upper 20s thursday night.

* winds... Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph wednesday night. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts around 35 mph thursday and thursday night.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A winter storm watch means there is a potential for significant snow that may impact travel. Continue to monitor the latest forecasts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 09:41 PM

to where? I just saw a report that says 'some' snow in DC area, but major differences according to exactly where you are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 09:47 PM

http://www.weather.com/weather/newscenter/alerts/nswxcategory/MD?from=news_alert_natl_states


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:02 PM

tsk... that asks me to 'sign in' with a password.... for a WEATHER report? I'll look it all up tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:30 PM

Glad the next one ain't gonna hit my farm... I have allready named my driveway "Big Muddy"... The P-Vine and I are in NoVa at her sisters but I left my tractor at the bottom of the hill in case we gotta leave the car there, put our stuff in the front bucket and ride up to the house on the tractor...

I hate snow...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: M.Ted
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 11:16 PM

If it begins snowing, I have no doubt that it will continue to snow until it stops. After that, we'll just have to see what happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:25 AM

The link to the weather.com does not ask for a login for me.

Anyway it seems Mother Nature is sparing the DC area from the brunt of the storm. It has shifted northward and it is predicted to be a real Blizzard with high winds.

http://www.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?article=2

These links are very slow right now

http://www.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&article=0


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: SINSULL
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:38 AM

Looks like this one is bypassing us as well. It will be in the 40s today thru Thursday. GOOD!


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: fretless
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:04 AM

Nothing but a tiny drizzle! I hope the kiddies who were counting on a snow day still got around to finishing those homework assignments.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:22 AM

My weather program just alerted to the high winds forecast (up to 60 MPH). I guess we will miss the snow, but I always worry about wind, as I have an Elm tree on its last legs limbs. We lost the center section in the snow, and the crew who cut it up called it in as a hazard....it's 'on the list' to be cut/trimmed. If two of its limbs come off, the power line right in front of my house is in danger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:51 AM

2-25-10 Accucast:

"On top of creating whiteout and blizzard conditions across parts of the Northeast, high winds accompanying a strong nor'easter will be forceful enough to cut power and cause damage to property.


From northeastern Pennsylvania and northwestern New Jersey through much of upstate New York, winds will whip snow around for several hours, lowering visibility to a quarter of a mile, or even less. This will nearly shut down travel through the area.


Strong onshore winds in eastern New England, where mostly rain will fall today, will bring above-normal tides, coastal flooding and beach erosion. Wind gusts could reach up to hurricane force along the coast, while gusts to 60 mph are possible farther inland.


Meanwhile, strong offshore winds south of the storm will lead to lower bay and estuary levels in the mid-Atlantic region."


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 12:08 PM

It's about 34 degrees F. at 42d Street and Broadway in the heart of Manhattan. The rain is coming down in sheets and the pedestrians huddling under umbrellas or hunched against the wind cannot get where they are going fast enough. It is a bustle of insulated minds in pain, banging against each other like gamma rays.


And even Pismo Beach in Central California looks a little cooler than usual.

Even San Diego's beaches are a little overcast.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Blizzard coming to DC area?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 26 Feb 10 - 11:22 AM

I am experincing some snow but I don't think it will accumulaye largely because the high winds are blowing it away.

I hate to think of what it is like up north from here.

It snowed all night in PA NY and NJ were blanketed all night and there is still snowing in places but the winds are up to 60 MPH.

The are calling it a snow hurricane, worse than a blizzard.

http://www.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?article=2


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