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Just a song for Mudcat

Phil Edwards 11 Feb 10 - 04:35 PM
VirginiaTam 11 Feb 10 - 04:48 PM
Bill D 11 Feb 10 - 05:03 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 11 Feb 10 - 05:08 PM
olddude 11 Feb 10 - 05:18 PM
PoppaGator 11 Feb 10 - 05:18 PM
Amos 11 Feb 10 - 05:45 PM
gnomad 11 Feb 10 - 05:56 PM
Spleen Cringe 11 Feb 10 - 06:01 PM
Ron Davies 11 Feb 10 - 06:43 PM
Joe Offer 11 Feb 10 - 06:49 PM
Joe Offer 11 Feb 10 - 06:50 PM
gnomad 11 Feb 10 - 06:56 PM
Lonesome EJ 11 Feb 10 - 07:53 PM
Ron Davies 11 Feb 10 - 07:56 PM
Joe Offer 11 Feb 10 - 08:09 PM
Ron Davies 11 Feb 10 - 08:16 PM
Charley Noble 11 Feb 10 - 08:20 PM
Phil Edwards 12 Feb 10 - 03:51 AM
Waddon Pete 12 Feb 10 - 04:17 AM
MGM·Lion 12 Feb 10 - 04:27 AM
MikeL2 12 Feb 10 - 06:50 AM
MartinRyan 12 Feb 10 - 02:40 PM
Spleen Cringe 12 Feb 10 - 02:59 PM
MartinRyan 12 Feb 10 - 04:33 PM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 12 Feb 10 - 04:44 PM
MGM·Lion 12 Feb 10 - 10:05 PM
Janie 13 Feb 10 - 01:17 AM
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Subject: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 04:35 PM

Is it OK to sing from a songbook?
Is it OK to sing sitting down?
Should I leap in and seize every momentary pause
Or wait for my turn to come round?

Should folk songs be sung in a folk club,
In the pub, in the street or at all?
Must a club with a door that is open
Have standards that constantly fall?

Are new compositions the 'folk' of tomorrow?
Are folk clubs the place for the trad?
Have horses been heard to make music,
And would they get booked if they had?

Are traddies deranged or deluded?
Is it something they put in the beer?
Some people - myself included -
Think the chances are we'll never know one way or the other, and even if we did we certainly wouldn't all agree.

(But we're still here.)


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 04:48 PM

thumbs up, Pip.


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:03 PM

Captures the essence of the place... *grin*


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:08 PM

That's great. :0)


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:18 PM

I LOVE IT !!!


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: PoppaGator
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:18 PM

nice


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:45 PM

Well, Pip, you certainly tore the bark right off the tree with that one! Well done.


A


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: gnomad
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:56 PM

OK, (several) point(s) taken,
But shouldn't it scan? (and fit the tune in my head)


Ah....ANOTHER tune.

To answer your specific queries:

yes (but aspire to do without), of course, no, it would probably be appreciated, of course (otherwise it isn't one, mind you we need to define 'folk'), yes, sometimes, definitely, no (though I see where you're coming from), some are most are not (the filtration process is a state secret), a place (there must be others), not by me, see last reply, some yes some no some both some neither (why does this matter?), probably not (not everyone drinks beer, maybe it's in the air).

So now you know (or do you?) agreement is optional.

PS: Please define 'all'


I'm still here, but I can't prove it.


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:01 PM

Nice one, Pip! (though you'll not beat the spoof ballad you did at the Beech a while back, though - did you ever post that here?)

PS- the answer to the third question in the penultimate verse is "Nay, lad. Nay..."


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:43 PM

Excellent.

This is fertile ground.   The meter of the title suggested something like this to me--(though I will definitely say Pip's song deftly cut to the heart of the matter--and nothing more need be said.) But this is Mudcat after all and when has the fact that everything has been said ever stopped us before?

Anyway, with the motto that the best parody is that which changes the least:

Just a song for Mudcat
When the lights are low
And the flickering shadows
Softly come and go
Though the heart be weary
Sad the song and long
Still we need to know
Do we sing along?
Do we sing along?


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:49 PM

Hmmmm. I thought "Just a Song for Mudcat" would be sung to the tune of Just a Song at Twilight, but Pip went in another direction.

I could start one for the "Twilight" melody:
    Just a song for Mudcat, can we live in peace?
    Can we all pretend that Others aren't diseased?
    Can we sing together, songwriters and trads?
    And come to the conclusion That others aren't so bad?


Well, no, on second thought.....forget it.

love,

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:50 PM

Uh, oh....Ron Davies had the same idea. Ah, well, I guess that's proof that great minds think alike.

Right, Ron?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: gnomad
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:56 PM

So, at least three of us heard the same tune?

I just know I am no songsmith, my mind is more grate than great.


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 07:53 PM

It's ok, but it ain't Folk, :>}


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 07:56 PM

Yours is great, Joe.   As I said, fertile ground.

"Blessed are the peacemakers."   

We can argue about anything, can't we? Does it prove we're alive--or just cantankerous?


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:09 PM

Aw, Ron, isn't there a difference between "lively discussion" and "beating the shit out of your fellow man"?

I prefer the former.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:16 PM

Well, sometimes the border is hazy--though I wouldn't use your second phrase anyway.

It's true some of us do stray across the border sometimes.   Good thing the Minutemen are not the border patrol--and good thing it's not the Iran border.


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:20 PM

Pip-

Nice but it's not a shanty!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 03:51 AM

ON THE B.S. LINE

Three hours into the session and the beer is running dry
Hey, Joe Offer and the elves all modding
The singer's got a book out and the standard isn't high
Hey, Joe Offer on the Mudcat-oh...


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 04:17 AM

Darn...got to clean the coffee off the keyboard!.......again.....

(Note to self...don't drink coffee and read Mudcat at the same time!)

Good renditions folks.. keep 'em coming!

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 04:27 AM

Great, Pip. You didn't specify a tune: wonder why I found myself singing it to tune of the Earsdon Calling-on Song ['Good people give ear to our story']? What tunes sprang to other Catters' minds as they read Pip's gr8 lyric?


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 06:50 AM

hi Pip

Great stuff......but it can't be true to mudcat......it's too short.....needs at least 40 verses to qualify....lol

Spot on my man

Cheers

Mikel2


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 02:40 PM

Joe, Ron

Must be an age thing - the same thought struck me!

Just a song for Mudcat, as the light grows dim,
And the trolls and flamers, come a-wandering in
Though their thoughts be venomous, full of spleen - and wrong!
Still to me each evening, comes Mudcat's song
Comes Mu-u-u-d-cats sweet song!


I'll take me tablets....


Regards


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 02:59 PM

"full of spleen"

Oi! Ryan! Watch it now...


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 04:33 PM

It's enough to make me cringe... ;>)

Regards


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 04:44 PM

Are you starting something Radish! Eh? Eh?


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 10:05 PM

Mustn't niggle, Nigel!


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Subject: RE: Just a song for Mudcat
From: Janie
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 01:17 AM

to the tune of Yangste River Shanty

My lyrics notebook I'll see no more
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
Since I learned the big boys don't approve no more
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus:
Away Boys, away oh
She don't have every word memorized
Away Boys, away oh
Let's walk away, out of the room


Well I love to listen and I love to sing
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
But learning lyrics ain't my only thing
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus

I got a heart, and voice and a heritage
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
Just a back porch singer with a kid to raise
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus

Got something to say with the songs I choose
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
But I ain't no performer, ain't musical news
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus

50 hours paid just to feed my son
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
'Nother 15 or 20 'til the chores are all done
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus

Jeezus, where's that song that I wrote out long-hand
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
I know it's in RUS but I daren't take a glance
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus

Know what that song means from the depths of my soul
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
What's the middle verse-just a big black hole
Away Boys, lift and walk away.

Chorus

The moon don't care if I read a line
Away Boys, Awa-ay oh
The moon don't care if I've not the time
To memorize the whole damn song

Chorus


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