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Arts Council UK requests public input

VirginiaTam 17 Feb 10 - 02:16 PM
VirginiaTam 17 Feb 10 - 02:19 PM
Howard Jones 17 Feb 10 - 04:24 PM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 17 Feb 10 - 06:46 PM
Dave MacKenzie 17 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM
sian, west wales 17 Feb 10 - 07:18 PM
VirginiaTam 18 Feb 10 - 02:42 AM
Howard Jones 18 Feb 10 - 04:34 AM
Ruth Archer 18 Feb 10 - 05:12 AM
VirginiaTam 18 Feb 10 - 11:54 AM
Howard Jones 18 Feb 10 - 12:20 PM
Ruth Archer 22 Feb 10 - 03:50 AM
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Subject: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 02:16 PM

This email directed secifically to me by colleague because of my "folk" links. Yeah! Sometimes, I bang on about the woeful disregard of traditional music and dance by council arts and festival services.

So follows the content of email.

Achieving great art for everyone: a consultation

Hello

Firstly may I introduce myself to you. I am the new Director of Arts Council England, South East. I would like to invite you to take part in an important consultation which aims to identify the future priorities for the arts.

The arts have flourished in the last 15 years, and there is now a genuine acceptance that they are part of our fabric as a nation. We want to build on that strength, but in our constantly changing environment, we need to work together to achieve the very best for the arts and opportunities to engage.

Earlier this month we launched our consultation - Achieving great art for everyone – which sets out Arts Council England's understanding of the current landscape, celebrates the success of the arts and identifies areas for the development over the next ten years

We want to hear your thoughts on the way forward. Your views will inform our long term strategic framework and our next set of investment decisions.

To take part in the consultation, please visit

http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/consultation/


The consultation will close on 14 April 2010.

We look forward to hearing your views - thank you for your contribution in advance.

Sally Abbott

Director, South East
Arts Council England, South East


So who will take up challenge to input your ideas about traditional music and dance?

http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/consultation/taking-part/



TAKING PART

The consultation process is running until 14 April 2010. Find out how your responses will help shape our future.

You can take part in the consultation process in a variety of ways:

contribute by answering the questions
comment on think pieces
You will need to register to answer the consultation questions, or login if you have previously registered with an email address.Taking part

The consultation process is running until 14 April 2010. Find out how your responses will help shape our future.

You can take part in the consultation process in a variety of ways:

contribute by answering the questions

comment on think pieces

You will need to register to answer the consultation questions, or login if you have previously registered with an email address.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 02:19 PM

May I request that if any visitors to this thread frequent other folk music and dance forums, that they kindly post this info on them.

The more we get this out there, hopefully the more consultations The Arts Council will receive from folk enthusiasts (if I dare call us that).

I am off to Twitter and Facebook it now.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Howard Jones
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 04:24 PM

Whilst we all probably share VT's opinion about "the woeful disregard of traditional music and dance by council arts and festival services", are there things that the Arts Council is already doing to support folk? I'm aware of the funding for the EFDSS, which is of course very welcome, and hopefully its effects will be seen beyond Camden.

Are there other examples? I don't want to put forward suggestions which ignore what they are already doing.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 06:46 PM

ACE have been funding Folk Arts England for several years - that funding is coming to an end, and the EFDSS has become a regularly funded organisation (RFO).
ACE has just funded fRoots magazine's free cover mount CD of English performers, and is funding a selection of young English performers to go to SxSW in Texas in march http://sxsw.com/ which is one of the biggest music conferences/showcases in the world apparently.
A couple of years ago, ACE withdrew funding from several folk-based RFOs, including TAPS and Folk South West. ACE continues to fund Wren Music.
There's some examples anyway.
Derek


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM

Is Arts Council funding a good thing? I remember Kent Opera. Premiered Judith Weir's "A Night at the Chinese Opera" and some other good things, and then the AC withdrew funding.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: sian, west wales
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 07:18 PM

I'd like to request a change of Subject title here. There is NO Arts Council UK. This is Arts Council ENGLAND.

Arts Council for Wales has a Taking Part paper out for consultation as well which is a desperately watered down version - almost unrecognizable - of one which was written through a process of workshops and consultations with the voluntary sector.

I shall make a point of looking at ACE's document to see if there are similarities. I do recommend that the folk/trad community respond in strength as it keeps the genre visible.

sian


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 02:42 AM

I do recommend that the folk/trad community respond in strength as it keeps the genre visible.

Thank you Sean.

This is exactly what I hoped to accomplish from this thread. Local authorities, district and town councils may not sneer at folk music and dance, but they certainly (for the most part) do not regard it as "art."

I have the great good fortune to be sitting adjacent to the Arts Development and Cultural festival Offices for my local authority. I am constantly tweaking for traditional music and dance, whenever I hear this or that project.

Getting some results too as I have added local folk clubs and venues to this site.

http://www.exploreculture.org.uk/home.html

And the Cultural Festival office is producing a new brochure of events in the authority. On the front cover is picture of Morris Side and the manager is frantically trying to locate one or more sides to perform at the One World One Essex Gala on 3 May. I have explained it might be difficult as most Sides will be involved in May Day celebrations either locally or afield. But this inclusion of trad arts, I hope is to my constant niggling.

It is not their fault. it is just not on their radar. This Arts Council consultation is an opportunity to change this.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Howard Jones
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 04:34 AM

Thanks Derek. What's the EFDSS planning to do with its ACE funding? I can't see anything about it on the website?


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 05:12 AM

Howard, the ACE funding falls into 4 quite prescriptive areas - in other words, the Arts Council has laid out several broad strategy areas to which EFDSS will be working:

Artists development - showcases, touring networks, national and
international opportunities
Sectoral development - annual conference and other networking and
exchange opportunities
Communication and information - PR, lobbying and advocacy, on-line
directory and other on-line resources
Education and learning - from grass roots to professional development


The funding is contingent on EFDSS delivering in these areas, and strategies for delivery are currently being created.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 11:54 AM

ACE funding to EFDSS is good. But it is not what this thread is about.

This is about people... ordinary people giving their input to the Arts Council of England, via the link I provided in original post.

Please register and complete the consultation. Please encourage others who want to see a change of attitude toward English traditional performance art among the movers and shakers of "culture."

Simples.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Howard Jones
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 12:20 PM

VT, I just want to make sure any comments I make aren't already being covered by the ACE grant to EFDSS. Otherwise they'll quite rightly say they have addressed those issues. Indeed, they could simply say they're giving substantial sums to EFDSS who should know better than them where they're best directed. However since the grant is actually for very specific areas (mind you, I'll have to consult my Artspeak-English Dictionary to understand what they are) that does leave other areas open to comment.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 03:50 AM

Tam, I understand what you wanted to do with this thread. I was simply responding to a question that was asked, which will allow the person who asked the question (and hopefully others) to make more informed responses to the consultation.

In any case, you may not think that EFDSS funding is what this thread is about, but I can assure you that it's relevant. When I spoke to the lead officer for folk within the Arts Council's central office last summer about the idea of creating a folk development agency for the East Midlands, he told me to wait a good two years before even applying - at the moment, the Arts Council's priority is in working with EFDSS as its strategic delivery partner, and any other large-scale folk-related proposals will be seen as doubling up on provision and will not be prioritised. Smaller-scale projects: fine. But anything strategic and long-term will not really be considered within the next 18 months. So the EFDSS funding is certainly relevant in any consultation process which the folk community is involved in.

This will, in my opinion, be even more the case now that ACE has re-structured, budgets have been cut and staffing has been reduced (this process finishes at the end of February). Even the lead officer for folk has now moved to one of the regional offices, which is a real concern, in my opinion. ACE does not have the staff or the resources to keep a beady eye on quite so many delivery agencies; that's one of the reasons why, instead of breaking up the RFO money previously awarded to Folk Arts England into lots of little chunks for lots of folk projects and organisations, it kept it in one pot and gave it to another single organisation who could act as a conduit. This way, the Arts Council only has to monitor one organisation's performance in responding to the strategic areas, rather than the work of all the partners whom EFDSS will work with in order to fulfil the strategy areas ACE has created.

With regard to this being "ordinary people giving their input to the Arts Council of England" - forgive me for sounding jaded, but ACE's "consultations" are somewhat notorious for their ineffectuality. As I see it, consultation is often the opiate of the people. I don't mean to suggest that it's pointless taking part, but I do absolutely think that, if we want to be taken seriously, it will help to be as informed as possible about what ACE is already doing with regard to folk provision, and their current priorities in that area.


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 04:31 AM

Over the last ten years or so The Arts Council of Ireland has given tremendous support to the traditional arts over here with financial support of projects which would have been unthinkable otherwise and by having elected representitives on their committee.
The winning of this support has been very much a two-way street, with hard work and dedication from performers and researchers.
The gains that have been achieved have brought young people to the music in their thousands, guaranteeing its survival for at least another two generations.
If you want to see material results of the hard work that has been put in, visit the Irish Traditional Music Archive in Merrion Square if you are in Dublin; if not, visit their web-site, where their magnificent collection of recordings is beginning to be put on line.
It is not so much a case of getting The Arts Council to recognise traditional music, but rather one of those who are involved taking themselves seriously as artists. I really don't believe you can have one without the other - try as you might, the mountain won't come to Mohammed.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Arts Council UK requests public input
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 05:56 AM

Jim, you are right of course. There are already some exciting projects in the offing as a result of the ACE EFDSS money - Tim van Eyken, as the new artist-in-residence at Cecil Sharp House, is developing a new project which is exactly the sort of thing you're talking about. I am not sure how public the plans are at this stage so I don't want to say any more, but it will be all about presenting really good quality, professional work and people taking themselves seriously as artists - and that includes their own development.

Similarly, the recent £35k of funding for the new Demon Barber Road Show project is all about artists developing themselves professionally and taking their work to the next level. I have to say, watching the Roadshow at Cheltenham Folk Festival last week was a revelation - even though I know that the project they've received funding for is not the current Roadshow, it seemed clear that the work they have been doing recently with dancers from other genres and with professional choreographers has simply lifted the quality of the performance, especially the clogging. I have seen the Roadshow many times previously, and I was still blown away by its current incarnation.

It's stuff like this which will convince the funding powers-that-be that folk arts can stand alongside other artforms in terms of quality and professionalism - and, for better or for worse, that is what bodies like ACE are interested in funding.


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