BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 10:08 AM

You, Don, have insulted the entire radish kingdom!!!

For shame!!!

B~

p.s. Congrats, GfinS... I was kinda hopin' for that 800 myself... Oh well...

BTW, does anyone else hear a pesky gnat buzzin' 'round the kitchen or is it just my imagination??? lol...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 12:47 PM

My humble apologies to radishes everywhere.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 02:30 PM

Still no answer from the highly educated expert on racisim.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 08:03 PM

I answered your moronish, childish question a long time ago...

You just didn't like the answer...

Tough!!!

Get a life, sawz...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 11:41 PM

Now the middle break starts a little off, (in my opinion), but he pulls it off, as he goes......(once he gets going, I Love the instrumental playing, 'against the beat'!!!!!

Here, Bobert, get your headphones.

Grab a lick or two!.....(practice, practice, practice!)

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 02:47 PM

I get in my hour a day no matter what else I'm doing... I really don't need any practice on the geetar but have been having problems remembering verses... To my own songs!!!

I found the headphones... Now I need a longer cord fir them 'cause the pudder ain't close enough fir me to see the screen and listen at the same time...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 08:54 PM

Sounds like true dedication, to me!!...(clears throat). Hey, as long as you're at it,..and HATE Fox 'News'...check this out!.....Just HOW could they do this??!!??....but I could!!

Bobert might not like this...........(wink)

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 09:13 PM

...and then there's this one...not at 'Fox'

Sure you don't need to 'practice on your 'geetar'??'

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 09:37 PM

Still no sound, GfinS....

As fir my geetar??? I can play anything that I want to... What more is there??? Might of fact, about 20 years ago my hands came to me and told me that they had declared independence... I know that my right hand was leaning toward it but I was hopin' to convine my left hand that it needed to stay in the fold, so to speak... But, no, they both told me to **** off... Since then I have tried to make suggestions here and there and I get they same from them... *** off, Boberdz!!!

I think that is terribly rude... I mean, hey, who's the boss here, anyway???

I donno about my pudder and sound... I plugged my headphones in and nuthin'... I need some time to mess with the wires... 'er rap the pudder with a small hammer... I donno...

Hate to be missin' all this music...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 10:21 PM

No sound??..No practice??...No great influences in your music from me???...NO WONDER YOU'VE FALLEN INTO THE ABYSS OF STUPID POLITICS!!!

GET YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER TO WORK!!!...JEEZ.....AND WHEN YOU DO, GO BACK TO THOSE LINKS....I thought you were able to hear them....I mean, how did you know it was good music, if you couldn't hear it???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 10:51 PM

I ain't got the time for no pudder right now... I livin' in a house with about 200 unpacked boxes and a wife wanting 500 plants planted yesterday... I livin' with a 1953 Spartanette trailer (my music studio) out back screaming to get blocked up and rewired and back up... I livin' with a pond about to go dry in 10 days if we don't get about 5 inches of rain (ain't gonna happen)... I livin' with the largest family reunion in history comin' at me 4th o' July...

But, I just took a few minutes off and wiggled my boney butt into the little area that I presently have carved out as my geetar space and asked myself, "What do I want to play (here) that I ain't never played before?"... Came up with an old Leo Kottke lick called something like "Machine #356" and hit it purdy good... Feel like Lightnin' Slim's "Nothin' But the Devil" before turnin' in and maybe Blind Lemon Jefferson's "One Kind Favor"...

BTW, for the record???

Having been born in the South, raised in the South, educated in the South and lived most of my life here in the South, the Tea Party is filled with ex-Klaners... You can take that to the bank!!!

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 12:59 AM

Well, there ain't no KKK'rs up here....but some folks are likin' the Tea Party. Me?..As I've said before, "I'm not with the 'party'..I'm with the band!"
...as far as 'takin' it to the bank'..last I heard, it was a sperm bank, and someone was tryin' to leave an unauthorized deposit!!...one of the tellers wouldn't allow his withdrawal......then found out, he really didn't have any real interest!!...that just compounded. What's worse, is the hired two homosexuals with hemorrhoids. Some of the customers were complaining about the speed bumps!!...I didn't know what the hell they were bitching about. The drive up teller told me all about it....then handed me a cheeseburger and fries!
...but all I ordered was a taco.
Never been back, since!

Go to a friend's house, if you have any yet, and click on the licks. Jeez, those are good ones....and got more, too.
I don't step in shit, play with shit, eat shit, or stuff it in my nose...OR EARS!!!..so I'm picky about what I listen to!!!...HOWEVER>>>
I sure read a lot of it, on here!! (Good thing this ain't in Braille!)

Now Get Busy!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 08:30 AM

There are KKKers everywhere, GfinS...

The Tea Party??? Remember Glen Becks rally in DC??? Well, the had a picture of the crowd in the Washington Post and of the 300 of so folks in the pucture there was not one black face...

Hmmmmmmm???

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck!!!

Now, as fir my pudder and music, maybe tonight...

We have grand youngin' here today and I gotta play entertainment/social director for the youngin'... If it was up to me I've get the kid a stick with a nail in it and tell him to "go play" but the P-Vine says these kids don't play with sticks no more??? I don't get it...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 09:01 AM

Yeah?...and my mother is coming in, late this afternoon. Son is picking her up from the airport. True story!
....As for the KKK'ers, really, there are none that I know of here. Maybe all over the south. But none here...I'm, quite a way west of you...but then you know the south....Sorta 'Political Neanderthals'!....Oh,..ahem, (Clears throat)......I ALMOST forgot....Play yo' hah-monicah, boy!! ..Do it with that geetah, in yo' hands!....Play it real sweet, and low.....make them sheet-sters think about sweet times.......make em fo-get about ironing them sheet dunce hats!!....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 09:25 AM

I didn't know they ironed them, GfinS... You holding out???

Don't much matter if it's KKK or whatever... The Tea Party ain't for no black folks... Maybe that's part of its appeal to angry white people???

B~

p.s. Say "Hey" to mom, fir me...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 11:29 AM

Bobert has not answered my question ever. His last resort is to claim he did.

What was the answer I didn't like Bobert? You holding out??? You refuse to answer a straight up question?

Bobert can't name or enumerate any of the Dixiecrats even though he claims to be an educated expert on the subject.

Professer Bobert:

Students, we are gathered here today to learn about the shitload of Dixiecrats I told you about when I said "There were a shitload of them" So Google it yourself and prove I am right like always (no brag just fact). I don't have the time.

But perfesser, I see in the Google results you told us to read that it was a myth. That the Dixiecrats dissolved back into the Democratic party.

I have now spoken and answered all of your childish and moronic questions.

But when I Google "Southern Strategy" I am told it was a myth.

Also it says Pat Bucannan invented the term and it referred to Nixon's declaration that "we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the "party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice." And because of that he got 25% of the black vote in the south.

Can you please explain why that is that perfesser?

And what did LBJ mean when he said "we will have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years"? Was that a strategy to win the south?

C'mon Perfesser, you are letting us down after claiming you know all this stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 12:33 PM

Check out a lot of the ones around this one!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 01:41 PM

HMMMMMMMMMM this stuff I Googled up don't exactly jive with what the perfesser says about the racist Tea Party but he ain't that good at splanin things so I won't ask him why or he might get all mad and start callin me names:

    A black TEA party group started in Houston. It's called the Crispus Attucks Tea Party. (I'll leave it to you to find out about Crispus Attucks, if you don't already know the name.) Does this mean that the regular TEA party really is racist? Of course not. Nor is this new group. It's actually a neighborhood TEA party group for the 3rd ward in Houston, which is mostly a black neighborhood. We have neighborhood TEA party groups all over the country. I'm thrilled to learn that one has started in Houston's 3rd ward. (And, by the way, the supposed racists of the other TEA party groups in the area....you know the "all white old guy TEA party members" that everyone talks about were welcome at this initial meeting and many showed up. It's said that attendance was about half white and half black.) I'm also thrilled to know that this will be a model of TEA parties for black neighborhoods all over the U.S.
    The 3rd district is Represented by Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, and was the focal point of rampant ACORN-style vote fraud and widespread voter intimidation this past November. It is thus fitting that this tea party had its inaugural meeting right down the street from Lee’s residence.
    With the typical politesse and considerate attitude of conservatives always left unreported by the press Rep. Lee was extended an invitation to the event. And with typical leftist rudeness, Lee snubbed it. Wonder why? These are her constituents, after all. I posted about Congresswoman Lee the other day. (You have to see this. Lee claims that repealing ObamaCare would violate the 5th and 14th amendments.)It's no wonder that the first black TEA party started in her district. Here's part of the press release provided by the Crispus Attucks TEA Party.
    Black Conservatives Form The Crispus Attucks Tea Party in Houston Texas. Our primary objective is to break the cycles of dependency and decay that continue to anesthetize and hold captive too many Black families and neighborhoods. We provide continuing series of speakers, seminars, training and practical business support services designed to help Blacks fully assimilate into and be competitive in American society. Our objective is to teach all Americans the fullness of the history of Blacks in America and to help Blacks gain control of their lives and the destiny of their children. Only by understanding our full and true history will we all of America be liberated.
    Lessons learned from decades of intrusive Social Engineering, Social Justice Policies and the Welfare State are left out of text books and routinely ignored by those profiting from them, however, they cannot be denied. One need only take a walk through what is left of our Black communities. Houston’s Sugar Hillbecame 3rd Ward which was a thriving Black enterprise zone without any government programs or subsidies. Enter stage left, The Great Societywhich offeredAn FDR Chicken In Every Pot and An LBJ Check In Every Mail Box. Now Houston’s 3rd Ward looks like a war zone and Black families are almost extinct. Spawned in the ’60′s, these social engineering experiments, government programs and the arrogant utopian value systems which produced them, continue to produce urban decay, increasing cyclical welfare dependency, increasing tax burdens (for those who pay taxes), the demise of the Black family, fatherless homes, skyrocketing out of wedlock births, more abortions than births, a rise in Black militancy and separatist activity and theft of real political power from all of those living in Black neighborhoods.
    Neither political party has been intellectually honest with itself or Blacks. The Crispus Attucks Tea Party unleashes the anesthetized political giant rendered helpless by an unending stream of government programs funded by tax dollars. Programs, welfare checks and the demise of pride and the work ethic have robbed Blacks of their identities and their dignity. They have devastated Black neighborhoods and rendered them politically and economically impotent. The Crispus Attucks Tea Party will shift political power away from race bating politicians, games of Three Card Monty played by highly skilled political operators and race hustlers who base all political activities and campaigns on race. Operating within Black districts these charlatans have proven incapable of acting in the best interest of those they claim to represent.
    The Crispus Attucks Tea Party is part of America’s rapidly growing Tea Party movement. Starting with Houston’s 3rd Ward, it will focus all of the power amassed across America by the Tea Party movement directly into targeted Black neighborhoods across America. Yes !! .. Our army operates .. Inside The Belly Of The Beast . The Crispus Attucks Tea Party is a non-partisan, neighborhood movement. It provides a base of operations for the descendants of Black Slavery who realize that welfare checks and government dependency are key elements of their destruction. The corresponding destructive cycles have destroyed lives, families and their neighborhoods. Government dependency holds Blacks hostage. It precludes true liberty and forever blocks full assimilation. Our mission includes building series of strong neighborhood operating bases made of business people, elected officials, Constituents and Voters, living and working in hostile areas . Intellectually honest Constituents living in Black neighborhoods want them to be safe and to thrive while becoming less dependent on the tax dollars of others. These Constituents want disciplined classrooms and globally competitive educations for their children. They want full control of the schools, stores, businesses within their neighborhoods and real futures for their children. These things will come only when Constituents living in these neighborhoods feel that they are worthy of them. The Crispus Attucks Tea Party will help Blacks take those steps forward. The Tea Party moves .. Into The Belly Of The Beast .
    The Crispus Attucks Tea Party promotes and fights for the founding principles originally defined by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Our core principles include personal responsibility, education, a constrained and transparent government, a balanced budget, self sufficiency, full assimilation and the development of viable Black businesses. that create jobs. We identify & vet viable Conservative candidates that are willing to fight for our mission, our principles and the issues we embrace. Candidates and elected officials who are commitment to American, want to maximize the value American Citizenship, share our values and demonstrate full support of our issue oriented efforts are welcome to support them. For more information on our inaugural meeting or the Crispus Attucks Tea Party

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 02:32 PM

OOOPS I left something out:

But it wasn’t just black patriots who came to the Crispus Attucks Tea Party.

At least half of the 75 or so people who attended the first meeting are white and have been defending the rights of taxpayers for a while.

Then there’s Marie Johnson, a longtime Black Democrat. She’s fed up with the direction the country is going and wanted to see what the movement is all about.

It (race) didn’t make any difference to me as long as I had a tea party and we get together, said Johnson.

Tea Party patriots are supposed to be racists (even though many people of various skin colors, blacks, Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, support the Tea Party movement and attend events, and even though several black Americans are leaders within the Tea Party movement), yet according to this report about half of the people at this Black Tea Party were white.

In other words, white Tea Party patriots chose to go to an event with black Americans. These white Tea Partiers made a conscious decision to spend their time around black Tea Partiers. These racist white Tea Party patriots went of their own volition to an event where they knew there would be a lot of black people.

I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t sound like a single one of the racists I’ve ever encountered. Only in the mind of a Leftist does that sound like racist behavior.

That can’t be good at all for liberals, who are seeing their propaganda campaigns falling flat all round them. The Democrat Party once had a lock on the votes of black Americans by shamelessly pandering to them, but the Americans of all skin colors, black Americans are waking up to the empty promises of liberalism. One of the Crispus Attucks Tea Party attenders, Texas State Representative James Early White (R-TX District 12), a black Texan, is proof.

You see, like Marie Johnson, Tea Party patriots don’t care what color your skin is. It’s the Left that’s obsessed with skin color. As long as your heart beats red-white-and-blue, you’ll fit right in at any Tea Party event.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John P
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 02:51 PM

The Tea Party claims to want to follow the Constitution. The document doesn't mention gay people or marriage, but it does place a lot of importance on equal rights and equal treatment under the law. Here are a few items from a quick internet search about whether the movement is, at least in part, bigoted and/or just doesn't understand how our government (as spelled out by our Constitution) works. There's LOTS more where these came from. If they don't want to be called racist, bigoted, or ignorant, they should stop acting like it, and start slapping down their members who do.

From a new survey by the University of Washington: "The data suggests that people who are Tea Party supporters have a higher probability"—25 percent, to be exact—"of being racially resentful than those who are not Tea Party supporters," says Christopher Parker, who directed the study. "The Tea Party is not just about politics and size of government. The data suggests it may also be about race."

From a New York Time/CBS poll:
"According to the New York Times and CBS, only about 16 percent of Tea Party activists support same-sex marriage. Most (52 percent) think that the problems of people of color get too much attention. Most (59 percent) think that Glenn Beck is a pretty righteous dude."

From Montana Tea Party leader Tim Ravndal's facebook page:
"Marriage is between a man and a woman period! By giving rights to those otherwise would be a violation of the constitution and my rights."
From one of his friends: "I think fruits are decorative. Hang up where they can be seen and appreciated. Call Wyoming for display instructions." Wyoming, you'll remember, was the scene where in 1998, Matthew Shepard was brutally beaten and hung up in a field. Shepard died several days after he was found. Ravndal's responce: "Where can I get that Wyoming printed instruction manual?"

Freshman Tea Party GOP Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler (R-MI)compared same-sex marriage to polygamy, incest, marrying children, and even to a three-year old driving a car.

Michelle Bachman:
Both she and her husband, by all accounts her most trusted political adviser, believe that homosexuality can be cured. Speaking to a Christian radio station about gay teenagers last year, Marcus, who treats gay people in his counseling practice, said, "Barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined, and just because someone feels this or thinks this, doesn't mean that we're supposed to go down that road."

In 2004, Bachmann gave a speech warning that gay marriage would lead to schoolchildren being indoctrinated into homosexuality. She wanted everyone to know, though, that she doesn't hate gay people. "Any of you who have members of your family in the lifestyle, we have a member of our family that is," she said. "This is not funny. It's a very sad life. It's part of Satan, I think, to say that this is gay."

An Ohio Tea Party listing of what has to be in place for a Republican to get their support:
1. The Right to Life is a Constitutional right, therefore innocent human beings should have legal protection from conception until natural death.
2. The regulation of Carbon Dioxide in our atmosphere should be left to God and not government and I oppose all measures of Cap and Trade as well as the teaching of global warming theory in our schools.
3. Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman, any other type of Union is not marriage.
4. Children should not be placed into foster homes where the parents are homosexual, bisexual, or transgender.
5. Parental consent should be required for sex education that teaches more than direct abstinence.
10. I oppose the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy of the military and believe that all same sex partners should be banned from combat duty in the military because of the propensity to transmit blood-borne diseases in the theatre of battle.
11. I support a law that will allow the people to place on a ballot all collective bargaining agreements of all government associations, unions, and guilds, for their expressed approval. Defeat of such an agreement would mean government workers would not be immune from the free market system.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 03:22 PM

"The Tea Party claims to want to follow the Constitution. The document doesn't mention gay people or marriage..."

An attempt by the poster to divert discussion of fiscal and governmental issues to social issues.

We have a government ehat spends $1.00 for each 57¢ it takes in. Enough is enough. Balance the spending with federal income, or at least make an attempt.

Churches are involved in social issues. Take the subject of with your priest or Rabbi.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John P
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 04:42 PM

Sorry PDQ, as long as the Tea Party (and the rest of Republicans) try to force their social ideas down the throats of the rest of us, the subject is fair game. Yes, churches are involved with social issues, but so is the Tea Party. If you don't like it, take it up with them. This thread isn't about our economic system (I agree that our economy is screwed), it's about the Tea Party and whether or not they are a terrorist organization. In general, I think the "terrorist" label should be saved for more extreme activities, but trying to force me to live according to their religious principles is a form of terrorism, and is wildly unconstitutional as well. Showing up at political rallies with guns is a form of terrorism. Hurling racial and sexual epithets at Congresspeople is a form of terrorism. Many of us remember the 60s, when racial epithets and guns combined to make a lot of dead black people and civil rights workers.

The Tea Party claims to want to follow the Constitution, but all the evidence suggests they don't have a clue what it actually says. They claim to want "freedom", but they seem to be OK with decreasing or withholding freedom from anyone who isn't them.

Even on the economic front, their solutions are so childishly naive that it's frightening that they managed to get so many of their partisans into Congress. Yelling "STOP" isn't really a valid economic policy, nor is doing away with our ability to regulate the fatcats that caused the economic problems in the first place. I firmly believe that we should have a balanced budget, but trying to get there without adding new revenue just isn't going to work. When I pay more than 25% of my wages in taxes while billionaires and hugely profitable corporations pay nothing it means that there are huge sources of income that we're not using. Besides being terribly unfair.

Maybe the question shouldn't be whether or not they are a terrorist organization, but if they are a clueless organization.

Oh, and what kind of strangeness causes you to refer to me as "the poster" instead of using my name like everyone else does? Rather odd . . .

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 04:47 PM

I also told a Sharon Angle supporter to tell her heroine to "shut up" about abortion and other social issues. If she couldn't do that, she should get lost.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 05:00 PM

Very well reasoned post, John P...

And pdq and I actually agree on Sharon Angle... She just didn't ever figure out that somethings that come into one's head should just stay the heck there and not in the public domain...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 05:16 PM

Balance the spending with federal income, or at least make an attempt.

No problem, PeeDee - all it would take is restoration of taxes on the wealthiest Americans to the 50% rate they paid during the Eisenhower administration, instead of the 18% they pay now, thanks to failed VooDoo Economics docterine.

The TeaPublicans could do that tomorrow.

Get after 'em, why don't you?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 07:00 PM

Oh, BTW the poll is stupid! Notice they didn't ask Democrats or Republicans what they thought of people OUTSIDE THEIR party.
just an attempt to bring nonsense issues, to cloud the matter!

OH!!! and another thing, Yes, this sex thing may be bigger than you think!
The Anthony Wiener issue, has divided parts of the Obama Administration, as well. Some of his closest cabinet members, are thinking of challenging him in the primaries!! The Attorney General sides with the N.Y. congressman, and has the 'goods' on a lot of 'inside Obama stuff'. He has threatened to resign, and form an alliance with Wiener, to run!....It will be the Wiener-Holder ticket!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John P
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 07:50 PM

hee hee hee. Wiener-Holder ticket. I love it!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 07:53 PM

GfinS...

I got the puuder workin' but still don't have a long enough cord... Loved the Michale Grimm song "Fallin'"... Real soulful... I got a few songs like that in my song collection but most of the gigs I do folks don't want to hear anything that doesn't get their pant legs a'shakin'...

Saws...

I hate to tell you this but you computer has tailored itself to the kinds of websites that cater only to the right wing and is blocking you from the others... Computers do this... They learn you and then give you only what you want...

Go to a library and use their computers that will not have built in prejudices and biases... Google up "Dixiecrats" and "Southern Strategy" and you'll get a wealth of information about stuff that I assume you are clueless about... Then maybe after you learn the true American History then you'll understand how the parties did the switch in the 60s...

But then again, maybe you like being ignorant??? Hey, that's your business... Not mine...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 02:06 AM

As far as I know, its original and has first appeared in 'Mudcat', by 'Yours Truly'. Cut and paste it, and E-mail it!!

Finally, a post of mine that 'John P' likes......I won't wonder 'why'!

Have fun with it!

Regards with a Wink!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 09:45 AM

"They learn you and then give you only what you want"

Like yours? If so, where is your info on the shitload of Dixiecrats?

You spend so much time dreaming up these deceptions to avoid answering a question and then you claim you don't have the time to answer the question.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 12:54 PM

'Tis a common tactic to avoid answering questions, that tend to scratch the surface, of a mountain of disinformation, and exaggerations, commonly know in the real world, as lies!

in another thread, about 'lying bastards', look at all the stuff that came in, about the lies this administration has dumped on the public, only to be embraced by those who support their particular lying bastard!!...The same goes for when the 'other' lying bastard party is in 'power'(?)..(as if either party has their own power).

When someone outside the loop, makes advances, whether it be Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin lies and bad mouthing spring up like gushers! Pretty soon, everyone is tired of hearing about them, and the glittering shimmer wears away, and they're yesterday's news. I guess the next in line will be Michelle Bachman. (The left tend to despise women who rise up, and who are successful, even if it from an opposing view!)
BTW, when I checked on Dennis Kucinich, this is what popped up....(don't let is piss you off too much!).

Just found this....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 03:24 PM

Oh, Here's the full story.....I'm sure it gets fuller, just follow the links!

Humm dee dum dum....

Responses?????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 04:19 PM

"...he {Obama}violated the War Powers Act, which requires him to come to Congress within 60 days for approval once initiating hostilities and we also say in the suit that even though the president had the approval of NATO and had the approval of the UN Security Counsel, those two institutions to do not trump the United States Constitution in the fact that the president has to come back and get approval." ~ Kucinich

George Bush and George W. Bush went before Congress at least four times to get our military actions approved. Both gave truthful information and followed the law.

Lyndon Johnson went to Congress with a completely bogus incident in the Gulf of Tonkin to have his pissing contest with Uncle Ho approved.

Slick Willie tried to bomb Serbia back to the Stone Age without Congressional approval. In fact, Clinton ordered the bombing of seven nations, all done with questionable legal standing.

There seems to be a pattern here when it comes to Democrats and Republican following the law. Carter, I believe, avoided the problem by having no discernable foreign military policy.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 04:53 PM

I'm not currently taking part in this thread.

It's pretty getting deep and--um--aromatic--around here, and my hip-waders are out being repaired.

CLICKY

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 08:20 PM

Me neither, Don... Arguing with right wing bloggers who are paid to write garbage and then post it on the internet as being factual is a complete waste of time... I split my time more wisely than to engage in arguing with paid morons whose only job is to frame issues to make their crooks look good and the good guys look like the real crooks...

The entire right wing is way deep in so much bullshit and mythology now that they can't come up with lies fast enough to out do each other...

My hip-waders are also out being repaired...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 08:21 PM

Well that's a convenient way to duck out!

I do not, however, think that the Republicans are without fault, when it comes to this....They both rapidly respond to the phone call from the international bankers, and mega-corps.

I think the more the Obama administration and so called 'liberals'(not to be confused with real liberals), fuck up, the less we'll be hearing from their naively fooled supporters. The 'fuck ups' are all to obvious!....and harder to be spun to even 'look'right!

"Something is happening here,
What it is ain't exactly clear...."

Then remove your head from that hot, wet comfy zone of 'rest'!!!

.....besides, it stinks there....but some just got too comfortable there....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 10:30 PM

No duck-outs and no endo-anal cranial insertion (at least on the part of Bobert and me), but we've come to the conclusion that it's a total waste of time and energy to try to have a rational discussion with a couple of people who consider no viewpoint but their own (or what they're parroting from Right-Wing blogs), and spout-off non-stop with their eyes shut and their fingers in their ears.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 10:54 PM

And it's far more productive and effective to talk to real people in the 3D world, write letters to one's political representatives and the editors of various publications, and talk with people face-to-face.

The internet is a great tool for politicking, but there's one thing about talking with people face-to-face. And that is that they have to stick to the subject, and they rarely respond to what you're saying with personal insults. Because there is always the chance that they might be served a knuckle sandwich for talking to someone the way certain people here on these threads do constantly when they don't have a sane answer to someone else's valid point.

There are a couple of other grass roots organizations besides the "Tea Party" who don't make as much noise, but their influence will be felt very strongly, very soon. Organized as a reaction to the excesses of the "Tea Party," but, I might add, they could hardly be called "reactionary." Intelligent and well-informed, meeting through the internet, and getting together when possible in each other's living rooms.

Stay tuned.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 12:29 AM

Well, that's a bunch of home-made shit!
First of all, the ONLY forum or blog I EVER go to is this one!..So you found yourself a tag-a-long.
Meanwhile, I was going to ask one of you astute warmongers, to justify how we come to attack Libya, without going to Congress, whether we have a NATO, or any other alliance!! This is bullshit, and you bloody well know it! You are both just playing 'follow the leader'..no matter how illegal, unethical, un-Constitutional, and matter of fact, treasonous!!

Is Dennis Kucinich wrong??..in calling a spade a spade?..Is he 'too far right' or 'too far left' to your liking???..Do we now follow the 'man' instead of the laws and ideals, this country is supposed to be about???? Are you craving a dictator, to tell you what we are going to do??..instead of following the laws and protocols, already established, as to our behavior, in this world???

I think you don't have any rational, legal basis to stand on, other than you like the guy you were led to believe was really a 'liberal'..and being as you identify with that, you are too locked, as in 'brain-locked' to admit that you've been deceived!!
Hey, its not too late...I kept saying through-out quite a few posts, and threads, "Snap now and avoid the rush!"...You guys are the moral equivalent, of the Nixon hanger-onners, true believers, who still supported him, and wanted him to stay, even as he was waving 'Fare well' from the helicopter, AFTER he resigned!!..probably crying in your beer about Anthony Wiener, as well!!......just because he is of you party...no matter how fucked up, he is!

You probably still think Oblab-Face thinks more of the poor under-trodden, than his corporate/financial 'sponsors'...just because he, and the momentum of the media, conned you suckers into thinking he was something that he is not...in the least!

So, is it any wonder, that a 'Tea Party' sprang up???....even if they might be off a little, here and there??....What did you expect?? I'm willing to bet doughnuts to dollars, that there are a lot of sincere people out there, who belong to the Tea Party, who are NOT gun toting KKK'rs, not racist, not Republicans, who just are frustrated with the bullshit 'Change we can believe in' crap, that is worse than Bush. Actually, in my thinking, the was, is and never intended to be ANY difference....other than appealing to 'liberals' who were fooled long enough, just to shut them up!

Well, cowboys, got news for you...YOU AIN'T 'LIBERALS'..hell, you don't even believe in a Democratic government! ...nor our Republic!..or you would have called it the way it was!

Shit, I don't even know if you play anything musically, except the radio!

Oh well, I think what is self evident, is self evident...and there is a faction of loons out there who will believe any corrupt notion, that wraps itself in a package of 'OUR SIDE'!!!

I really hope Kucinich has half the integrity, as he portrays himself to have.....I don't know, though..he did oppose Obama care, up to the end.........................................almost!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 12:43 AM

Oh, and Pee Ess...I'm NOT a right winger, either!...I think you are more for 'corporatism' than 'socialism' as well!!

Personally, I think ALL the 'isms' can take a flying leap!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 12:56 AM

My Gawd, you're clueless!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 01:07 AM

In fact, you couldn't get a clue if it was the middle of clue mating season, you rubbed your body with clue musk, then dashed out into the middle of a field full of horny clues and did the clue mating dance!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 08:25 AM

Don: "My Gawd, you're clueless!!"
Don: "In fact, you couldn't get a clue if it was the middle of clue mating season, you rubbed your body with clue musk, then dashed out into the middle of a field full of horny clues and did the clue mating dance!"


I guess if that's all you got, or, if that's all you have for a rebuttal, you ain't got too much, do you??? Instead, you say something semi-quasi inflammatory, that DOES NOT address the issue, just more namby-pamby name calling.

Oh, and I'M clueless????? I didn't vote for the fuck-nut!!!!

'Cluelessly' not as fooled, as you,

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 09:47 AM

Hdere's the deal, GfinS...

You know that I'll wrestle around with you when time permits because I am wrestling around with *YOU*... Wrestling around with cut and paste right winged paid bloggers is a complete waste of my precious time and I'm sure that Don feels the same way...

As for Kucinich??? I agreed with him on Iraq and Afghanistan... I'm not totally sold on the NATO participation but more because the US has had to carry the load with NATO for years... Gadaffi, however, should not be attacking civilian areas indiscriminately... That's called genocide...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 11:19 AM

..and we have laws regarding when and how we go to war!..not that that means any difference to you, and the Obama devotees! ..and I don't know where you get this 'right wing blog' shit.
Is Kucinich too 'right wing' for ya'?
Was Reagan right to bomb Libya, but Obama is OK to do the same???
Did Libya attack us??...as it did while Reagan was in office?
Do you support the U.S. being the 'policeman' for the rest of the world?
Is it our 'normal' policy to interfere with other nation's civil wars?..or are we instigating them?
Did you support Johnson's Vietnam policies, as well???
Did you support Bush's war on Iraq?
Afghanistan?
Pakistan?
Somalia?
..or do you only LIKE so-called 'liberal' started wars?
It sounds more like to me, that we are just supporting ANY, and ALL mid-east unrest!
Did we bomb Northern Ireland?..or make big moves to fuck with the IRA?
...or the Basques?
Kenya?..Uganda?
This unilateral warmongering is now justified because you THINK Obama is a liberal!!!!!??
Is Kucinich wrong??
Do you think, with Kucinich breaking ranks with Obama, that this is 'unifying' the Democratic party??

Personally, I think either party is OK..AS LONG as they uphold the Democratic process, as laid down in the Constitution, and stop with the corruption, that makes the 'policies'!...and this ass-brain has done everything in his power to circumnavigate AWAY from our supreme law of our nation!!..Including how the so-called 'Health Care' bill was passed...and then in the name of 'equality', hands out waivers to his cronies!! You think that's just ducky, huh???

Now, I expect none of these questions to be answered, from you two, but rather blither-blather, and some half witted, asinine name calling and accusations!
The reason is YOU DO NOT HAVE A MORAL OR LEGAL LEG TO STAND ON!!
Frankly, when it comes to hypocrisy, the far left lunatics, who have captured your thinking, are more akin to mentally ill, two faced, double standard morons!!!
But, be glad..at least you have company!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 11:22 AM

....and ah da' peepo sed, "Ah-men"!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 12:03 PM

Oh, and while we're at it......How come we ignored the calls from the Iranian people, when they begged us for their help??

How about the Egyptians??

..and remember Tienanmen Square?

Where were the phony 'liberals' there?
Did you ANY support ANY of this??..Or just filling your shoes with the crap running down your legs?

Bullshitters!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 12:17 PM

Bobert has displayed his entire knowledge of who the "shitload" Dixiecrats were that turned into Republicans or how many there were.

Exactly how many are in a shitload and how would he know if there were enough Dixiecrats to make a shitload?

Ziltch.

In an effort to hide his lack of knowledge he resorts to ad hominem attacks calling the people that ask him "ignorant" and spends hours claiming he is too busy.

All of which leads me to believe that Bobert is a Blowhard.

He could prove he is not a Blowhard by producing some facts to support his claims about the shitload of Dixiecrats but I think he would rather keep avoiding facts and proving he is a Blowhard.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 12:44 PM

Here's the deal, GfinS...

The invasion of Iraq was 100% bogus...

Yes, the UN and Congress did pass resolutions that specified that Baush would have to use an invasion of last resort... That never happened...

Hanz Blix went before the UN in late January, 2002 and reported that the Iraqi's were not only cooperating with the UN inspectors but had allowed the inspectors to inspect where ever they wanted... Hey, that is exactly what both the UN and Congress were looking for with their resolutions...

2 weeks later Bush ordered up the invasion!!!

That violated the "spirit" of the resolutions and therefore the entire war was in violation of the spirit of both the UN and Congress's wishes...

That's the way it went down and I can furnish you with the exact date of the report and the exact language of Blix's report, if you like...

This isn't a matter of debate... It's a matter of common sense...

Like I said, I am not 100% with or against Kucinich and Co... What I am against are people who voted for the Congressional resolution on Iraq who never peeped up when they knew perfectly well that Bush hadn't lived up to what Congress wanted or authorized...

That is 100% USDA Choice "Hypocrisy"...

I am sick of the hypocrisy of 100% of the Republicans... And, yes, some of the Dems, as well...

Yo, Sawz...

Sorry, pal, but I'm not reading your posts any more... You have lost all credibility and you are a patent liar, too... So your stuff gets scrolled by as in ot even looked at.. You should have played straighter in the beginning without all this obsessive garbage... You have completely marginalized yourself in my book...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 02:19 PM

Bobert: "
Here's the deal, GfinS...
The invasion of Iraq was 100% bogus..."

Okay, I agree with you on that one!...So what makes it OK to invade the rest???

gfS