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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:52 PM Donny: "(P. S. I think he loves me. That's why he can't seem to leave me alone. . . .)" You're the one who brought it back up AGAIN..in an attempt to derail the other topic! I just answered you. Pretzels anyone? And as to address you question about who is lying...I proved my point..you have yet to prove yours! And as to my education....Did it ever occur to you, that my rap about 'receptors', as 'off the wall' as they may have seemed, was just a little more than a 'wild guess'????...When NONE of the 'so-called experts' on here, probably ever heard of such a thing???? Problem is, just like Bobert, I have to cut through so much preconceived bullshit of yours, to prove YOUR points!!!..because of how much misinformation you guys have bought into!..and like I've said to both of you...I'M on YOUR SIDE...as long as 'your side' is rooted in TRUTH, and NOT political hackery and quackery!!! When you post on music, you are worth reading...but this other stuff is just political dogma!..same with Bob-Babes...that's why you're not getting anywhere..because as time goes on, the political crap, gets found out to be hogwash....and the truth prevails...I only hope our country lasts long enough to recognize what turner out to be truth, versus what turned out to be partisan manipulations, that tend to get people's eyes off the real things going on...like this thread, and it's diversions!! Fair enough?? P.S. You still were not even close to proving that I was lying...so, at this point, I'll offer you an 'Olive Branch':...quit accusing me of lying, and I'll stop insisting that you prove it!... ..and if you'd like to make a step further, you might actually consider deeper, the things I've run down to you....because I don't post on a LOT of threads,..only the ones that I KNOW what I'm talking about!(unless its for a quick quip). How 'bout it? (I make a lot better ally, than adversary!!....as you should have seen by now!!) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:17 PM No, I am not. Nor (no matter how much you lie about it) did I ever say that unequivocally. What I DID say, and what I AM saying is that according to the best scientific evidence available, there is a great likelihood that it IS genetic. Are you simply incapable of reading plain English? Sorry, GfS. You can't lay your gender confusion problem on me. It's YOUR problem. YOU deal with it! Don Firth (P. S. I think he loves me. That's why he can't seem to leave me alone. . . .) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 05:44 PM So, are you NOW saying that it is NOT genetic? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 26 Jul 11 - 05:35 PM You can not have a rational discussion with irrational people, Don... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 26 Jul 11 - 05:29 PM You really are a sad piece of work! Read what I said in those posts AGAIN!! I never said--anywhere--that it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that gender orientation is genetic. What I kept (and keep) saying is that there is a great deal of evidence to indicate that sexual orientation is determined by genetics. I get this information from sources such as Scientific American and Psychology Today. Argue with THEM! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 04:33 PM Before we go any further...answer yours first, as that's the order it came down!!!..and stop changing the topic!.... You CLAIMED I SAID something I didn't...now prove it or shut up! So, you 'almost' artfully avoided posted anything which shows YOU never said it was 'genetic' and shifted the topic onto a stupid, false and disputed post! Nice try!...but you are still lying!! Or THIS ONE: (From: From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 16 Aug 10 - 06:51 PM "Donny Firth: "No, GfS, we do NOT know that it is not genetic. YOU don't want to believe it, so in your mind, it isn't. But there is plenty of evidence demonstrating that gender orientation IS genetic. The specific gene or genes have not been isolated yet, but the basic principles of genetics established by Gregor Mendel in the 19th century definitely point to this being the case. I, and many geneticists, feel confident that the gene(s) will be found soon. If it hasn't been yet, that doesn't mean that it won't be." That is speculation. Since when have 'civil rights' issues, regarding the law, are passed on speculation????? You need to do a bit better....shit, let's speculate that 2012 everything is going to be destroyed..and pass a law that we party till then, at government expense!!..EQUALLY!! Nope!..Bad foundation to build a case on!! GfS Or THIS ONE: From: Don Firth Date: 16 Aug 10 - 07:26 PM "Rave on, little critter. There is ample evidence that gender orientation is indeed genetic to make the civil rights issue valid." And THIS ONE: From: Don Firth Date: 18 Aug 10 - 09:27 PM "Okay, both questions are answered by the fact that the "homosexual gene" is carried by one or more females in the family into which the homosexual male is born. And the gene in question seems to relate to an inconsistency, or "mis-timing," in when particular hormones are released to the male fetus when the female in question is pregnant." Don Firth AND THEN HE SAYS THIS NOW...on this thread!! From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 04:14 PM Don Firth:"GfS, you are, indeed, a liar. Or you, too, flunked remedial reading. I never said that same-sex orientation is genetic..." ...and I have more.......(just thought I'd help you out!) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: frogprince Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:49 PM "Not to get to personal, but to squash any type of statement about my father already being gay, I'll explain this. He was molested when he was a child by his father and uncle. He learned how to deal with the shame and pain of this act by storing it inside and never talking about it. This, undoubtedly, led to prolonged psychological effects that plagued him and eventually chose him to choose his lifestyle." ",...and by the way, what you are saying, even by posting that bit of nonsense is, that homosexuality was NOT genetic, but acquired through someone's dad and uncle molesting someone...and that caused the person, to be a homosexual...not consistent with your own rap!...So make up your mind!" By what twist of reasoning can you say that. by quoting a post sent from your computer, Don is "saying" what that post claims to assert? If I quote from Mein Kampf, making it plain that I'm doing so only to expose the nature of the book, does that constitute my supporting the philosophy in that book? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:31 PM Here's another perfectly fair question, GfS. Having established (TWICE) that the post in question came from YOUR computer, if YOU didn't write it, then who did? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:24 PM Game, set, and match, GfS. You're twisting and writhing like snake in a noose of your own making. Give it up. You're only making yourself look like even more of an ass than you already do. By the way: when and where did you receive your degree in psychology? What agency issued your certificate as a psychological or marriage counselor? Where and for how long have you practiced? Since you have made the claim, these are all fair questions. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:02 PM Oh yes, I KNEW you'd pull up that one...what you FAILED to pull up, is my post saying "I DID NOT AUTHOR that post", and asked Joe Offer to check it out as well!...and asked Joe to take it off!!..but he elected to leave it on, because he stated that, yes, in fact it did come from my computer...but IN FACT, I did NOT write that post! Nor did I Author this bit of folly.."Not to get to personal, but to squash any type of statement about my father already being gay, I'll explain this. He was molested when he was a child by his father and uncle. He learned how to deal with the shame and pain of this act by storing it inside and never talking about it. This, undoubtedly, led to prolonged psychological effects that plagued him and eventually chose him to choose his lifestyle." My father was NEVER molested as a child!..nor any of the above post is remotely true!!! What I do suspect is, someone else wrote that post, and the one at 12:38!!..and if you remember I refuted that post!...but you simply ignore that! Lying through omission. Perhaps it was one of the musicians who was at the home recording, who thought this argument was stupid..I don't know...but that is and was a post NOT made by me, nor is it true, in any sense! Get over it!! ,...and by the way, what you are saying, even by posting that bit of nonsense is, that homosexuality was NOT genetic, but acquired through someone's dad and uncle molesting someone...and that caused the person, to be a homosexual...not consistent with your own rap!...So make up your mind! So, you 'almost' artfully avoided posted anything which shows YOU never said it was 'genetic' and shifted the topic onto a stupid, false and disputed post! Nice try!...but you are still lying!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:35 PM Okay, GfS, when I cited a couple of things you said on a previous thread (the Prop 8 thread), you denied it that you said it, and in your post of 25 Jul 11 - 04:14 p.m. above, you called me a "LIAR," all in caps. We've done this little dance before, and you keep coming up looking like a horse's ass. Case in point: On the Prop 8 thread, you kept insisting that there was absolutely nothing genetic about gender orientation, and offered as proof that you, a counselor, had cured homosexuals of their abnormality. When challenged on this, you went on to present more evidence for your position by offering the following bit of personal history: Subject: RE: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage BanThis is followed by— Subject: RE: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage BanThen, I once again confronted you with the question of why you are so adamant about there being no genetic connection in the face of so much evidence that there might very well be, and that the book was not closed yet. I pointed out what you had said about your father's defection, and offered the suggestion that perhaps your intransigence on the issue was prompted less by any scientific knowledge, but more by fear of what your own genes might contain. You then had a wall-eyed fit (which was a dead giveaway that I had hit a nerve!), swore that you have never said anything like that, then made the hysterical accusation that I had posted that under your name! I PMed Joe Offer about your claim that I had written that post rather than you. He PMed me back, saying that he could not guarantee that you personally had written the post about your father, BUT that, checking the IP address from which the post came, it had come from YOUR COMPUTER. Not mine! So there you have it GfS! You lied. And then you lied about lying. And then you tried to wipe the egg off your chin by accusing ME of lying. And now you're doing it AGAIN. GfS, repeatedly you get caught with your pants down and your hand in the cooking jar. Not to mention, the egg on your face. No, I doubt that you were ever any kind of counselor. If you ever were, then God help your patients! But this I DO know: You are badly in NEED of some serious counseling. You are one sick puppy! Now, knock off this crap, GfS, and let sane people get back to the discussion at hand. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:07 PM "Look guys, the Tea Party's appeal is to citizens who are freaked out, as to the way things are, and have been in Washington." Only stupid fantasy seekers think that. The Tea Party is a clumsy rebranding of the Republican right wing fringe |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 12:54 PM Another baseless theory! Look guys, the Tea Party's appeal is to citizens who are freaked out, as to the way things are, and have been in Washington. A great deal of them haven't even heard of the Koch's....even though, I would agree, that the Koch's are funneling money and support into the party. Do I agree with everything they say?...NO. Do I agree with everything the Democrats say?...NO. Do I agree with the GOP?..NO Do I agree with everything Mudcatters say??...Well, so far they haven't had much of anything coherent to say, other than they are a bunch of discontented whiners, whose so-called 'left' leaning mindset is obviously coming unraveled...and instead of making 'adjustments' and/or 'corrections', even in the light of FACTS, some just turn into nasty little bitches. Oh, and Don,..remember what you are looking for? This is your claim that I said: "And then, you went on to claim that YOU were a counselor and HAVE cured homosexuals of their homosexuality." The part about being a counselor was indeed correct..the other, well you just made that up!... But this is what I did say, "Personally, I don't care how a person takes their sex....but that should be a personal matter..and not rub it in all our faces, and force us to accept it as law!!...even when it goes against the majority will of the people." AND THIS: "Thank God for natural selection! When the stupid idiots don't get it, let nature step in and give them a clue!! Personally, there is no need to legislate a thing! This whole thing is a backlash to the homosexuals pushing their agendas down everyone's throat...and excuse the majority for objecting!!!!! Whether you like it or not, homosexuality (until the politically 'correct' assholes, pushed it onto the medical community), has always been listed as a dysfunctional behavior, where one gender, through one of several reasons, develops a sense of inability, to resolve understanding and communication differences with the opposite sex, usually from hostility, emotional focus, and unforgiveness towards a like gender parent and reverts to a pubescent experimental stage, of sexuality, which causes little or no challenge to expand beyond immature behavioral patterns.....Much the same behavior is seen in younger girls who like to 'dress up like 'mommy'(which is normal for pre-pubescent girls), homosexuals like to dress up like 'married'. To actually push that agenda onto a functioning society, is the product of a group of people who have physically matured, and not emotionally matured as well.....And if you don't like it, that is only a product of your political bent...which of course, is not to be confused with mental health." OR THIS: "Ok, Then give a name to two people who proclaim publicly that they want to live together, and have children that they conceive themselves, and raise that family together. HINT: Its a name they use world over, from Samoa, to Tibet, Europe, Asia, China, Russi, Australia, South, and Central America, North America..and recognized globally. Then ask yourselves, is this the same situation that warrants the same name of two people who have an inability to do that, because of their sexual orientation. It's called 'Marriage'...and I KNOW, so you don't have to beat a dead horse, that not all couples who get married, don't do it, for the reason of having children..however, that IS the model, and families ARE the basic fabric of civilizations and societies. It is no wonder, why 'redefining' what that basic building block is, that some people, whether religious based, or not, see that eroding away of that foundation, see it as a threat to their nations, culture, or society...especially when they are so vehement, in their attacks! If they want a different sexual 'preference'..they don't have to advertise is and throw it in everyone's face!..In like manner, nobody, inquires on here as to their sexuality to deny them of any dialogues or rights! Do we have to know how your wives squeak, or how you groan, or where you like it????...I do-o-o-n't think so!! So, if they want to do what they do, the way they do, then call it whatever they want...but it is not 'Marriage' as known the world over, by every established society....any more than when a little girl dresses up in mommy's dresses and wears her high heels, makes her a woman or mother!!!" OR THIS?: "From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Jan 09 - 04:40 AM" Or THIS GEM...From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Jan 09 - 04:40 AM: " Acceptable??? To whom? me? No..I think its lame, unnecessary, dysfunctional, dishonest to one's own self, lying to himself about his own gender, and sad...and I understand it! Absolutely tragic!..from both sides. Acceptable?..Maybe to you ..but then you have given yourself little option...and intentionally stay comfortable in your lack of knowledge or understanding. That, too, is sad. Personally, I think that unless a man, mounts a woman, and with her hearty help, at least one time in their life, for the soul purpose of bringing forth a life, and willing to raise that child with her, keeping LOVE as the central focus of their family, you can take all the mystics, politicians, religious fanatics, and used car salesmen, and go bark and howl at the moon, for anything they want...and it won't take away the fact, of the wonder of that miracle, nor will they argue it away. Doing that, is the hottest experience humans can do well, on this planet!...Now if you haven't done that...what did you want to say??? I can't hear you......... (Don't even post it) Or THIS ONE: (From: From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 16 Aug 10 - 06:51 PM "Donny Firth: "No, GfS, we do NOT know that it is not genetic. YOU don't want to believe it, so in your mind, it isn't. But there is plenty of evidence demonstrating that gender orientation IS genetic. The specific gene or genes have not been isolated yet, but the basic principles of genetics established by Gregor Mendel in the 19th century definitely point to this being the case. I, and many geneticists, feel confident that the gene(s) will be found soon. If it hasn't been yet, that doesn't mean that it won't be." That is speculation. Since when have 'civil rights' issues, regarding the law, are passed on speculation????? You need to do a bit better....shit, let's speculate that 2012 everything is going to be destroyed..and pass a law that we party till then, at government expense!!..EQUALLY!! Nope!..Bad foundation to build a case on!! GfS Or THIS ONE: From: Don Firth Date: 16 Aug 10 - 07:26 PM "Rave on, little critter. There is ample evidence that gender orientation is indeed genetic to make the civil rights issue valid." And THIS ONE: From: Don Firth Date: 18 Aug 10 - 09:27 PM "Okay, both questions are answered by the fact that the "homosexual gene" is carried by one or more females in the family into which the homosexual male is born. And the gene in question seems to relate to an inconsistency, or "mis-timing," in when particular hormones are released to the male fetus when the female in question is pregnant." Don Firth AND THEN HE SAYS THIS NOW...on this thread!! From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 04:14 PM Don Firth:"GfS, you are, indeed, a liar. Or you, too, flunked remedial reading. I never said that same-sex orientation is genetic..." ...and I have more.......(just thought I'd help you out!) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Stringsinger Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:47 AM State of denial. Where's the sanity? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:30 AM Now that's a stretch. You and Don should open a pretzel factory! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Stringsinger Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:29 AM The Tea-o-Cratic Party is made up of radical religious people who are not secular and don't believe in Separation of Church and State. As a result, they believe that government as it stands now should be destroyed and replaced by a Christian Theocracy. This is the real basis for their opposing any legislation that Obama is offering. The Republicans have been taken over by these theocrats and that explains their obstinate adherence to a totally phony "austerity" program which is calculated to destroy the Obama presidency and castigate Democrats. Both the Democrats and Republicans are in denial and this issue doesn't get mentioned as a result. There are some libertarians who are opposed on philosophical ratrher than religious grounds and followers of Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand but they are in the minority when it comes to the Tea-o-Cratic Party. In the meantime, the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove are playing the religious card for all it's worth by supporting it as a means to their ends. It's not only an economic war that governs Republican policy but a Culture War as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 26 Jul 11 - 09:35 AM No duct tape here... Just busy and went out to hear T Model Ford last night in some dive in Charlotte... You are 100% wrong on the Koch brothers spending, GfinS... The stuff above the table makes Soros's look like chump change... Then, like an iceberg, 90% of it is under that table (legally) now that the Republican packed Supremes have opened up the doors for massive right wing corporate money to flow into elections without any disclosure or restrictions... All one has to do is pay attention to the "media buy" time to see who has the big $$$s... Haven't seen one single progressive ad in over a year on televison (cable of) but the corporations are hammering Obama every night... Thousands and thousands of media buys... But you don't care about that as long as it's your side that has rigged the deck, do you... John is correct... You ***are*** a hypocrite... You blast the corporations one day saying they control everything on "both sides" but have no interest in the reality the big $$$ ain't going to progressives, or centrists but 99% to you right winged heros... Hypocrite!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 26 Jul 11 - 09:12 AM In all seriousness, GfS, mouth farting is a very good analogy for what you and the Tea Party do: a rude noise, a bad stench, and nothing behind it but a lot of hot air. You and the Tea Party claim to want freedom but your thoughts on the matter are so shallow as to be laughable. You are unable to articulate anything other than a morass of disconnected thoughts that don't bear even the most cursory examination, but you like to display them loudly at every opportunity. Anytime you get tired of farting and me calling attention to it, try discussing the meaning of freedom or the Constitution. We'll have a great conversation. Until then, PPFFTT! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:47 AM Johnny: "Oh, shit, I already tried that. I think I'll go back to calling attention to your fart mouth. It's way more entertaining and seems to produce the same results from you. More farts! PPFFTT!" Hey, if I want any shit from you, I'll squeeze your face! Jeez!..It sounds like a barroom brawl!..well maybe a coffee house brawl..and some of you are sure getting a lot of lumps!..but before the 'barkeep' shuts the thread down(even though it HAS been rather entertaining), Let's wait for Donny-Babes to find that mysterious, elusive post!...We may be on here a lo-o-o-o-ng time! Bobert found the duct tape....and while using it, I hope he found out a LOT more stuff about the Koch Bros. that he never knew before..(He should have thanked me!) What a turkey shoot!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 26 Jul 11 - 12:43 AM Sorry, GfS, you're doing all the farting. It's my new term for people like you who are fantastically hypocritical and don't have anything cogent to say but keep spouting off in public anyway. This is a big similarity between you and the Tea Party. Your posts are as stinky and offensive as farts. Get it now? I'll try to be more serious: What do you mean when you talk about freedom for Americans? What is your understanding of what it means to run our country according to the Constitution? Oh, shit, I already tried that. I think I'll go back to calling attention to your fart mouth. It's way more entertaining and seems to produce the same results from you. More farts! PPFFTT! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Jul 11 - 12:27 AM John. you seemed obsessed with farting....What is this?..Mating season?? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:56 PM Like being forced to buy health insurance???? Ah yes, the old shift the ground and attack on another topic ploy. Always useful when you can't make a rational response to the actual conversation. PPPFFTT! More farting in public, GfS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:35 PM Doing or saying nothing is a prescription for the domestic terrorists to act out thier plans. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:27 PM John Petty:"....Constitution but don't have the ability or the willingness to articulate what freedom really means or what the Constitution actually says." Like being forced to buy health insurance???? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:19 PM PPFFTT! Whew! That stinks. GfS, PLEASE stop farting in public. That's all you're doing, you know, until you can explain why you, like the Tea Party, talk a lot about freedom and the Constitution but don't have the ability or the willingness to articulate what freedom really means or what the Constitution actually says. You and they both claim to love America, but clearly don't like Americans. PPFFTT! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:19 PM While you're sniffing, find this one, too: Don posts: "You, on the other hand, have indicated in former threads (although you later denied it) that you have very good reason to be afraid of your own genetic make-up, hence your knee-jerk reaction to any mention of the possibility that genes have anything to do with sexual orientation." Anyone can say anything, and you put words in people's mouths, that they NEVER said!..but proving, the words YOU say I said, as shown earlier in this thread, becomes quite another thing! ...and you've been called on this dumb tactic of yours, before.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:12 PM But I do know that a dialog has advantages with such people... I can't see how trying to have a rational dialog with ignorant idiots, lunatics and psychopaths would help much, either. Assuming its even possible- which I doubt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:00 PM AHA thank you Greg, that is a good question. When dealing with a group of repressed men who have deep affection for secret societies and a love affair with guns we have to first know they exist and second open them up to any kind of communication to have any hope of educating or defusing the dark violence that is both real and inevitable from such men. Stig Larsen wrote about the dark right wing in the crevides of Scandanavian society. He recieved many death threats in response to his two novels. What percentage of the US Tea Party has a similar potential as the Norwegian Nationaist terrorists I do not know. But I do know that a dialog has advantages with such people while shootings and jail is a response that comes too late. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 25 Jul 11 - 08:42 PM I suggest we try to embrace the tea party Hmmm.....embrace ignorance, stupidity, cupidity & lies. Don't see how that'll help much. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 25 Jul 11 - 06:22 PM Okey dokey. It'll take a bit of time because the thread where you made these self-revelatory statements runs over 4,000 posts, but my afternoon is fairly loose. Might be later this afternoon or tomorrow morning, but just remember, you asked for it! Boy, is this gonna be a snort! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 06:11 PM Do it! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 11 - 04:45 PM Hey, he is having a good time. Is it at the expense of someone eles' sensibilities and feelings? Probably. When actual sanity prevails I suggest we try to embrace the tea party that lives in various members to perhaps disuade the contemptuous cultural competition and selfishness that often leads to sensless shootings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 25 Jul 11 - 04:38 PM Tell you what, GfS, I can go and get your posts from the Prop 8 thread and either link to them or cut and paste them here, so that people can verify for themselves just who the liar is. I'd be happy to do it for you. Or would you prefer to just get off this bus and save yourself a whole septic tank full of embarrassment? Your choice. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Jul 11 - 04:22 PM Wow... Someone needs to take a chill pill... And it ain't don... Hmmmmmm??? Who could it be??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 04:14 PM Don Firth: " GfS, you are, indeed, a liar. Or you, too, flunked remedial reading. I never said that same-sex orientation is genetic. I said—and cited a number of articles (Scientific American, for example), presenting the case that there is strong evidence to indicate that sexual orientation is genetic, although as yet the genes themselves have not been located. There ARE differences between the brain structures of heterosexuals and homosexuals, but at this point it is not known for certain if these differences are the cause or the result. That is a scientific and carefully reasoned position at this stage of the research, holding ultimate conclusions in abeyance, pending further research. You, on the other hand, have claimed unequivocally that homosexuality is a matter of free choice, and that it can be cured through counseling— And then, you went on to claim that YOU were a counselor and HAVE cured homosexuals of their homosexuality. By the way, don't try to deny that you claimed this, because I can link people to the posts where you said it." YOU ARE A LIAR!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 25 Jul 11 - 02:42 PM GfS, you are, indeed, a liar. Or you, too, flunked remedial reading. I never said that same-sex orientation is genetic. I said—and cited a number of articles (Scientific American, for example), presenting the case that there is strong evidence to indicate that sexual orientation is genetic, although as yet the genes themselves have not been located. There ARE differences between the brain structures of heterosexuals and homosexuals, but at this point it is not known for certain if these differences are the cause or the result. That is a scientific and carefully reasoned position at this stage of the research, holding ultimate conclusions in abeyance, pending further research. You, on the other hand, have claimed unequivocally that homosexuality is a matter of free choice, and that it can be cured through counseling— And then, you went on to claim that YOU were a counselor and HAVE cured homosexuals of their homosexuality. By the way, don't try to deny that you claimed this, because I can link people to the posts where you said it. In carefully monitored studies of attempts to "cure" homosexuality through counseling, often including such methods as "aversion therapy" (Example: presenting some manner of homoerotic stimulus and then subjecting the patient to electric shock), the figures indicated that the counseling and therapy were either totally ineffective or were actually psychologically damaging to the subject. Out of two hundred subjects, after the course of treatment, there was, within a few months, a 68% recidivism rate, some 23% abstained from sex altogether, determining to remain celibate, about 30% (note that these percentages are not exclusive; there were overlaps) had to be treated for severe depression, and six of the subjects committed suicide. Other attempts at "conversion therapy" have produced similar results. So much for "curing" same-sex orientation through counseling. By the way, GfS, if you were EVER any kind of counselor, then I am the Grand Exalted PooBah of the Nine Galaxies! And, GfS, before you try to do a riff on me, I am not homosexual, never have been homosexual, don't plan on becoming homosexual, and have never engaged in any kind of homosexual relationship or activity. And I have been happily married—to a woman of great loveliness and talent—for thirty-four years. You, on the other hand, have indicated in former threads (although you later denied it) that you have very good reason to be afraid of your own genetic make-up, hence your knee-jerk reaction to any mention of the possibility that genes have anything to do with sexual orientation. Stop chewing your fingernails. It's a nervous habit and it's unsightly. Don Firth P. S. New York State has just taken a long step toward civilization. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 25 Jul 11 - 02:28 PM Now enough of that stupid and inane bullshit!! Get it? Got it! Good! Well, no, I still don't get it. You haven't explained why -- whether gays are that way genetically or not -- you claim to want freedom for all Americans but want to limit freedom for some Americans. Perhaps we should take another tack: What is you definition of "freedom" as it applies to Americans' belief that we are the "Land of the Free"? What does this freedom mean to you? Should all the freedoms any of us enjoy be applied to all of us, as we are promised in the Constitution? If not, why not? I know that the right wing has tried to make the concept of a nuanced response into some sort of nancy-boy response, but those of us who want to solve actual problems understand that these are big, complicated issues that can't be solved with slogans and quick answers. The big problem with your positions on the Constitutionality of gay marriage is that it only goes to the first, most basic exchange of ideas on the subject: "They don't deserve it!" seems to be your basic message. You don't seem to be able to address the 2nd point that comes up (which is "why not", in case you want to know), much less the tenth. Sorry, you can blow me off as much as you want, but your inability or unwillingness to reconcile your own contradictory statements turns you into the farting asshole I mentioned earlier. Screaming "FREEDOM" without any real desire for freedom for all is just hypocritical and rather stupid sounding. No one will take you seriously as an intelligent human being. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 02:02 PM Bobert: "Guess some folks think that if they ***SCREAM*** loud enough it will make their arguments correct... Seems over my life time the folks who have to scream are the ones who are the most wrong..." I'm sure that most of your life people have been screaming at you! ...and I'm not wrong,...as you know! Until then, "Silences is golden...duct tape it silver"!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Jul 11 - 01:22 PM Gettin' ***NOISY*** in here... Guess some folks think that if they ***SCREAM*** loud enough it will make their arguments correct... Seems over my life time the folks who have to scream are the ones who are the most wrong... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 25 Jul 11 - 01:01 PM I see the humour in you mocking hyperbole. I enjoy the irony? Isn't that enough? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 12:54 PM Correction of a word...delete the other post, please! John P: "Hey GfS, please tell me how you can claim to want freedom for all Americans and to follow the letter of the Constitution while also inveighing against gay folks having equal treatment under the law and curtailed freedoms." Like ALL you have to rail about is those who TRUTHFULLY Know what the homosexual is and is NOT! You, and your ilk, seem to ONLY care about that one hot button issue..(as if that is another sign of 'maturity') So here it is, one more fucking time, the homosexual issue is NOT a genetic deal...and no one, not even our illustrious Mr. Firth has produced one shred of evidence linking homosexuality to genes...not even when he produced a link to a study, conducted by a homosexual researcher!!!..who claimed that there was NO conclusive anything of the sort!..THEREFORE, it could not, or cannot be given Constitutional guarantees under the 'race, creed or color clause'!..HOWEVER, they can do just about anything they want to do, under the 'pursuit of happiness' clause. Anyone who argues, that marriage is the same as a 'domestic partnership' is guilty of twisting definitions to fit an agenda. Conversely, those who argue FOR not allowing Homosexuals, to co-habitate, as domestic partners, on religious grounds, are also in error, as so far as 'religious' arguments, are not binding Constitutionally!!! The rest is just some segment of a political wing trying to make hay, and loopholes in the supreme law of the land! Now enough of that stupid and inane bullshit!! Get it? Got it! Good! In regards to the Kochs, Soros, IMF, AND THJE REST of the 'special interests'....as I've been saying for over three years on here, IT IS THE CORRUPTION of our system, and the propagandist's indoctrination, in the media owned and influenced by those same, corrupt 'pieces of shit' people, that has the whole of the country completely disoriented! Everybody, at present, is awaiting some sort of 'deal' or resolution in regards to the 'debt ceiling'. Everybody is blaming the 'other party' for holding things up.....HERE IT IS(believe it or not, and argue about it or not)...The 'remedy' is NOT going to be made by a political party, of either side...it will be made BY THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY GUYS, FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE, NOT OURS AND 'DELIVERED' through the 'party system' to the public, and the people WILL NOT be represented, nor allowed to make a choice. In other words, we will be dictated to, sans ANY Democratic process, by and for the furthering agenda of the globalist's bankers, for the purpose of setting into place THEIR system of THEIR control!! You don't like it????...well don't blame me, for telling you the TRUTH! Jeez! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 12:49 PM John P: "Hey GfS, please tell me how you can claim to want freedom for all Americans and to follow the letter of the Constitution while also inveighing against gay folks having equal treatment under the law and curtailed freedoms." Like ALL you have to rail about is those who TRUTHFULLY Know what the homosexual is and is NOT! You, and your ilk, seem to ONLY care about that one hot button issue..(as if that is another sign of 'maturity') So here it is, one more fucking time, the homosexual issue is NOT a genetic deal...and no one, not even our illustrious Mr. Firth has produced one shred of evidence linking homosexuality to genes...not even when he produced a link to a study, conducted by a homosexual researcher!!!..who claimed that there was NO conclusive anything of the sort!..THEREFORE, it could not, or cannot be given Constitutional guarantees under the 'race, creed or color clause'!..HOWEVER, they can do just about anything they want to do, under the 'pursuit of happiness' clause. Anyone who argues, that marriage is the same as a 'domestic partnership' is guilty of twisting definitions to fit an agenda. Conversely, those who argue FOR not allowing Homosexuals, to co-habitate, as domestic partners, on religious grounds, are also in error, as so far as 'religious' arguments, are not binding Constitutionally!!! The rest is just some segment of a political wing trying to make hay, and loopholes in the supreme law of the land! Now enough of that stupid and inane bullshit!! Get it? Got it! Good! In regards to the Kochs, Soros, IMF, AND THJE REST of the 'special interests'....as I've been saying for over three years on here, IT IS THE CORRUPTION of our system, and the propagandist's industrialization, in the media owned and influenced by those same, corrupt 'pieces of shit' people, that has the whole of the country completely disoriented! Everybody, at present, is awaiting some sort of 'deal' or resolution in regards to the 'debt ceiling'. Everybody is blaming the 'other party' for holding things up.....HERE IT IS(believe it or not, and argue about it or not)...The 'remedy' is NOT going to be made by a political party, of either side...it will be made BY THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY GUYS, FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE, NOT OURS AND 'DELIVERED' through the 'party system' to the public, and the people WILL NOT be represented, nor allowed to make a choice. In other words, we will be dictated to, sans ANY Democratic process, by and for the furthering agenda of the globalist's bankers, for the purpose of setting into place THEIR system of THEIR control!! You don't like it????...well don't blame me, for telling you the TRUTH! Jeez! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:32 AM Well, Jack, my hyperbole is usually done for satirical reasons. I seek to leaven the constant political bile and nastiness around here by making fun of it, thereby perhaps pulling the mask off the darker emotional passions that are driving it. Will it make any difference? Probably not! But then, neither does all the self-righteous raving on these political threads by the soreheads who come here to fight with one another every day make any difference to anything either! So we're all dead even on that, aren't we? We do it simply because it gives our minds something to chew on for the moment...and because we can't resist not doing it. ;-) I know that. I see it plainly. How about you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:12 AM Thanks, LH. I think that you in particular might be on shaky ground criticizing hyperbole. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:08 AM Little Hawk: Dante. Sorry, Don, I beat you to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:07 AM VERY funny cartoon, Jack! ;-D I like it. But why stop at merely calling the Tea Party a "Terrorist Organization" in the ridiculous title that labels this thread? How about: BS: The Tea Party a Plot to End ALL LIFE AS WE KNOW IT???? or BS: The Tea Party more dangerous than Hitler on Steroids???? or BS: The Tea Party bent on sucking the blood from virgins and raping minority children???? I mean, hey, folks, let's get right down to calm reason here and address the serious political issues of our time, shall we? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:59 AM Hey GfS, please tell me how you can claim to want freedom for all Americans and to follow the letter of the Constitution while also inveighing against gay folks having equal treatment under the law and curtailed freedoms. If you want to be part of a discussion you have to reconcile your contradictory statements. Otherwise, no one has any reason to take you seriously, you see. You become nothing up some asshole farting. You don't want that do you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John P Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:54 AM Where does GFS claim any one has a liberal idiot conspiracy brainwashed agenda? He didn't. Nor did I say he did, Lazy McLazy. Wake up! Or are you being conversationally obstructionist on purpose? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:35 AM Being as there is an over abundance of squirming, and finger pointing, and nasty gibberish, try Googling "'ALEC' Koch"....being as I have to do your homework for you...while you're too busy being partisan, and stupid! Jeez, I can make a better case than you can, AGAINST the Kochs! You're all too busy with petty shit, that's thrown out there, for small minded grazing!!!...I bet YOU didn't know that, did you???!!! What a bunch of ninnies!..including. Soros has the same shit!... So..Do you want Koch's agenda?..or Soros's...or the IMF'?.....Or would any of you be interested in the TRUTH, in the 'news(?) media' and letting the people decide...in this 'so-called' Democracy?????????!!!!!!!!!????!!!! Now shove it! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 25 Jul 11 - 08:56 AM Don Firth, you need to look at this link. You bear part of the blame. |