Bands/Artistes withThe Same name

Subject: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 05:19 AM

On another thread some people got mixed up with Skid Row the 80/90s band with the same name as the Irish Rock outfit from the late sixties that fetured Gary Moore and Brush Shiels as well as Phil Lynott (for a short time) This got me wondering about other bands with the same names as earlier outfits such as Nirvana, The Charlatans, Kingdom Come, or even individual musicians with the same name e.g.Mick Jones - The Clash, Foreigner, Man - all different blokes!

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 06:29 AM

The Austin Lounge Lizards were just The Lounge Lizards until they found out there was a Japanese band that already had that name.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Smedley
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 06:34 AM

I'm sure I recall one or two British bands having to add 'The British...' or 'UK' to their names in the North American because there already existed an American band with the same name (even if the latter was incredibly low-profile and unlikely to be confused with the Brit act). But my memory has decided to refuse to remember any examples. Very helpful.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 06:46 AM

Liverpool & Detroit Spinners

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 06:55 AM

The early 80's 2 tone band 'The Beat' had to market themselves as 'The English Beat' in the USA.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:11 AM

Exactly was my 1st thought Mr Happy, and I'm sure there is less publicity/interest in Liverpool's Folk Spinners because of this confusion.

Unless the 'folk snobs' stop ignoring them I suspect no one will make the effort to re release their music and show the enormous influence they had in keeping folk songs plus the joy of singing along alive when I was young. I know some people call them the "didlee didlee' of English Folk but I disagree, their TV shows were so enjoyable.

The Spinners on ATV

http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/1308022/index.html

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:13 AM

The Drifters... the English band changed their name to 'The Shadows'...!

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: G-Force
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:14 AM

I know of two folk bands called Touchstone (but the British one may be no more).

Unbelievably, there are two accordionists in the UK called Rod Stradling, both at the top of their respective games. Fortunately their musical fields are different enough for confusion mostly to be avoided.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:19 AM

Apologies everyone the BFI link I gave above is restricted to UK Educational establishments & Libraries, I didn't know that at the time. Something definitely wrong with that, there should be public open access to the BFI archive - my 'rant' for today maybe.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:20 AM

I'm sure there is less publicity/interest in Liverpool's Folk Spinners because of this confusion.

Erm, I'm sorry but the American group was the one that was forced to change their name, hence the 'Detroit Spinners'. The Liverpool band continued as 'The Spinners'

Your comment makes no sense.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:26 AM

Nirvana

and

Nirvana

Same name. Seprated by an ocean and a number of years:-)

DeG

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Smedley
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:37 AM

The Detroit Spinners were only the Detroit Spinners in Europe. At home they were just the Spinners. Maybe something parallel happened to the UK folk group.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 07:37 AM

Good point Dave.

I trust that you'll agree that the second are the 'folkier' of the two?

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 08:06 AM

There is another Dave Sutherland who is quite popular on the contemporary/acoustic scene and who has made two or three albums.
No confusion as he was born some 270 miles further South than me; some thirty years after me and, I gather, is considerably more talented.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 08:09 AM

The 'Observer' gig guide advertised a gig for 'The Duncan McFarlane Band' in Leeds with the description
'Celtic Folk Rock' (which, by the by, was an incorrect description)

The following issue advertised a gig at the Brewery Arts Centre, Kendal, with exactly the same description.

Funny, thinks I - I don't know anything about that booking!
I telephoned the Kendal venue to enquire if they actually did have us on.
The conversation with the manager went like this...

DMcF: Hi, Duncan McFarlane here, I just want to check, as you appear to have booked us and I know nothing of it.
Kendal Arts Centre Manager: Oh... are you local to here?
D: No
KACM: Are you about 5ft 4''?
D: No
KACM: Are you completely bald?
D: No!
KACM: Are you ninety years of age?
D: NO!!
KACM: Hmmm. Well the Duncan McFarlane that I've booked is all of those.
Your band does play Glen Miller Big Band style material, doesn't it?
D: Definitely, no!
KACM: Then I haven't booked you at all!

The Observer had erred in its description. Lazily using the DMcF band description of the previous week for the very next instance
of 'a' DMcF Band that they encountered.

The Duncan McFarlane Band, fronted by a short, bald 90+, big band leader STILL plays Kendal Arts Centre annually
(practically their only gig since the man has all but 'retired' these days)
The folk-rock outfit - The Duncan McFarlane Band - still carries on with the same name - as we both reckon one
or other of us will outlive the other!! Thus freeing-up the name exclusively! ;0)

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 08:18 AM

When I tried to found out whether Asha would be playing anywhere near me in the near future I nearly gave up, there were so many other outfits using the name. I did find them eventually by adding Jackie Allen's name to the search.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 08:25 AM

From another thread here, it seems there are at least three "Betty Swallocks Band"s in the UK.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 09:28 AM

Well, these might fall into the "close but no cigar" category.

There's Andy M. Stewart and Andy Stewart. At the time I first heard of him, Andy M. was touring the US with Manus Lunny, but I don't think he was using the "M." I was confused when later I bought a tape cassette at a Scottish festival of "Andy Stewart." I was bitterly disappointed when I got it home and realized it wasn't the same guy. Later I developed some appreciation of the earlier Andy, so all was not lost.

There is (was) Jimmie Rodgers the singing brakeman, Jimmie Rodgers of "Kisses Sweeter than Wine," and Jimmy Rogers the bluesman.

There's Sheb Wooley and Shep Woolley, also on opposite sides of the pond.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 09:57 AM

For years I was under the impression that I was listening to Isaac Guillory as I would stumble home at 2 am on a Sunday morning and hear "Please Stay" by the Cryin Shames blasting out from the open windows of countless council estate flats.

Only many years later did I learn that the group in which Isaac had played in his younger days was in fact called the "Cryan Shames" , and was no relation to the British beat combo who recorded the Burt Bacharach song so beloved of party hostesses everywhere at one time.

Please Stay, by the Cryin Shames.

The Sailing Ship, by the Cryan Shames, 1967

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:10 AM

I believe there's now a young British band called the Rakes.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: doc.tom
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:30 AM

Then there's Quicksilver - possibly the only fully pro ceilidh/country dance band in England, with Mike Ruff, Chris Haigh & Bernard O'Neill (and occasional deps.) - who have been going since 1983 and there's Quicksilver - Hilary Spencer & Grant Baynham - who have been gigging folk and other venues in England since - ummm?

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Brakn
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:38 AM

Blue
and
Blue.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:39 AM

Musicians using the name Dave or David Evans:
an excellent finger style guitarist
the original lead singer of AC/DC
U2's "The Edge"
a Welsh classical composer
a banjo player
a bluesman

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:42 AM

Two Jackie Washingtons, both North American folk-music personalities.

The one I knew first was a young African-American who was part of the Cambridge/Boston mid-60s folk scene, who cut at least one album on the Vanguard label.

More recently, I learned of a Canadian folksinger of the same name; if I'm not mistaken, he passed away not long ago.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:43 AM

There's also the Dave Evans who ran Dorchester Folk Club in the 60s and married Julie Felix. I don't think he's any of the above.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: BobKnight
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 11:03 AM

Hedgehog Pie - Aberdeen
Hedgehog Pie - Newcastle

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,c.g.
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 11:23 AM

One of the Rod Stradlings plays melodeon not accordeon.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,aging cynic
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 11:29 AM

there are at least two bands called the Karma Farmers around today, with a few others in the past

u.s. version:
http://www.myspace.com/karmafarmers

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: michaelr
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 11:45 AM

Then there was the 60s San Francisco band Quicksilver Messenger Service, whose name was shortened to Quicksilver, and a country outfit called Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver....

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 12:12 PM

I believe tyhere are one or two other imitation Greg Stephens around. So far no extreme confusion has arisen. And I play in the Boat Band, and there was a bit of confusion when we discovered there was another one in Bristol. But I think they have changed their name to Gypsy's Kiss.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Feb 10 - 12:26 PM

Judging by Fred McCormick's current thread on the subject, there are two Phil Tanners. The Pembrokeshire singer, and also the nephew of Gid Tanner(of Skillet Lickers fame).

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 03:44 AM

Our band is called the Rakes of Rochester. Were not young but do live near Rochester. Its after a tune and dance of some vintage. I like to call the dance at the barn dances we do - its one of the easier progressive dances.

What about the Loose Women ( morris side from the village of Loose).

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 04:08 AM

An informative post, FloraG ~ but how related to topic of the thread?

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 04:09 AM

Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) and Ian A Anderson (Blue Blokes 3, Tiger Moth, Hot Vukltures, etc)

The latter famously appears (with the former, and various members of Fairports, Traffic and others) on the cover of the Island Records sampler 'You Can All Join In.' Apparently, someone in the Jethro Tull camp kicked up such a fuss about two musicians having the same name that Island subsequently decided that Ian A couldn't actually join in after all..

Other groups... The Charlatans, The Heartbreakers, The Dominos

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: melodeonboy
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 05:51 AM

Kent-based cajun band Wild Turkey had some problems because there's an American band of the same name, so they changed their name to Dindon Sauvage!

There also appear to be two bands called Loose Change in Kent. One of them was hosting a folky/acoustic session at The Good Intent in Rochester several weeks ago. When I contacted Loose Change via the website number to book a spot, I ended up talking to someone who plays for the soul band, Loose Change, who had no idea what I was talking about!

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,ernest
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:52 AM

Allan Taylor - singer/songwriter
Alan Taylor (member of Jolly Jack)

John Wright (with and without Catherine Perrier)
John Wright (John Wright band) - I think they are not the same person

Wild Geese (german based irish group)
Wild Geese (different group)

Dave Arthur (with Tony)
Davey Arthur (with Fureys)

Taverners (Blackpool?)
Taverners (of Brighton)

Jack Elliott (miners songs)
Rambling Jack Elliott

Sonny Boy Williamson
Sonny Boy Williamson II

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Mo the caller
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:06 AM

Googling Hit Punch ceilidh band gives 2 bands, who seem to have added bits to their names to avoid confusion.

Preston HOT PUNCH barn dance band

and

the original HOT PUNCH ceildh band.


I sometimes work with the Family Band, we are the only one in Cheshire but there are others.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 01:39 PM

To MtheGM
Steve talked about a band called the Rakes.

Loose women are a chart pop group - I think.

With the ease of checking on the internet I think new bands/dance sides should make an effort to try not to use existing bands names.

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: doc.tom
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 02:27 PM

Jack Elliott (miners songs)
Rambling Jack Elliott

The real Jack Elliott (miners songs), introduced himself at the Albert Hall as Stumbling Jack Elliott - just to make sure!

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: open mike
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 04:03 PM

Kristina Olsen A fine instrumentalist (acoustic guitar, steel-body slide guitar, saxophone, concertina and piano) as well as a powerful songwriter with a big bluesy voice, has this web page : http://www.kristinaolsen.net/ Her latest c.d. is Quiet Blue.

the "other" (Kristina Olsen from Newburyport Mass) says: I have become extremely active in the peace movement after losing my sister Laurie on September 11th. I've been to Afghanistan and most recently Iraq, to bear witness to the suffering of the people there and to do everything in my power to prevent a war against Iraq. I have played music for the people in the countries I visited as well as to many people here at home at Peace gatherings, vigils, walks and Peace Conferences. The name of my Cd is 'Home to Love' and the most
likely requested song is called: 'The Art of Being Kind'.


also i found these two..
http://www.steve-turner.co.uk/music.htm , a British Concertina player

I also have a friend Steve Turner who plays in his band:

http://www.thecoyotes.net/CoyoteAboutUS.html



AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER SIMILARITY..
i found other bands called coyote...here is just one..
http://coyotesmusic.com/

Subject: RE: Bands/Artistes withThe Same name
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 06:40 PM

There is a very good American folksy/bluesy singer songwriter by the name of John Bosley, http://www.myspace.com/johnbosley    not to be confused with John Bosley, the lead singer and multi instrumentalist with up and coming Suffolk based folk/rock band 'The Bounty Hounds' http://www.bountyhounds.co.uk/ , who, if you will forgive the gratuitous self promotion, you can see this year at Rochester Sweeps Festival, The Suffolk Folk Festival (Woodbridge), Sellindge Music Festival, Ely Folk Festival, Spratton Folk Festival, Moira Furnace Folk Festival and Swanage Folk Festival