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Subject: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:04 AM

Draught beer is its own thing. Bottled beer is simply not at all right for folk venues. What do you think?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:07 AM

If there's no draught, ie a keg only pub, then there's no alternative.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:08 AM

yes there is ....go to another pub! they will learn


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:13 AM

Is this WAV??? Hold on - WAV's a mead man...

Nowt wrong with bottle beer, Conrad - in my native Tyneside we drink bottled Newcastle Brown Ale in preference to many draught beers, a tradition I carry with me the world o'er.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:15 AM

I've done that too.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:20 AM

One of the troubles with Mudcat is what I can describe only as GALLOPING PRESCRIPTIVENESS ~~~

~~~ predicated on the inability of so many Catters to comprehend the simple principle that TASTES VARY.

Here is a perfect example...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:21 AM

Let me het this right. You think that bottled beer is not 'folkie' for some strange reason and think it should be banned at folk events?

I have seen some strange arguments on here but that round about takes the biscuit. I am not even going to explain why and on how many levels that is wrong! Whoever came up with that idea is obviously not a full shilling...

DeG


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 09:47 AM

There are plenty of wonderful bottle conditioned European beers. Far better in fact than some of the swill available on tap. most of the smaller breweries in the UK do a range of lovely bottled beers - stouts, porters, ruby milds, IPAs, honey beers, winter ales etc etc. Very few pubs could stock such a wide range on tap.

Just out of interst (and I know I shouldn't) why do you think bottled beer is "wrong" for "folk venues"? Do you think they might encourage dressing up and using napkins? Sounds like Morris Dancing to me...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Goose Gander
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:31 AM

Should banned beer be bottled?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:37 AM

What about cans?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: melodeonboy
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:41 AM

Cans are for baked beans and processed peas!!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Bernard
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:44 AM

I agree... they should supply tubes to enable you to plumb yourself in to the nearest cask of ale. No need for bottles, cans, glasses or tankards!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:45 AM

Most beers (the sort usually called "real ale") are better served under gravity, and are too fizzy out of a bottle, but bottled beer is better than things like "John Smith's Smooth" or most normal pub lagers.

If I were to go out for a beer at 4 pm every Sunday it would be a "regular beer".


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:45 AM

This is "Folklore"?

There is crap beer in kegs and great beer in bottles, and neither has anything to do with how well you sing Matty Groves.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: michaelr
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 10:59 AM

Ban the can, throttle the bottle. We must drink straight from the tap!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: SunrayFC
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 11:03 AM

this might just convince me to leave Madcats...... and to think I was told off for using capital letters and not putting UK in the thread title.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 11:53 AM

See you in detox.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: glueman
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 12:02 PM

You can buy a range of Bateman's beers, relabelled Aldi, for £1.13p a pint and very nice they are. Compared to some of the stuff I've been sold from a beer tap for three quid, bottled beer makes sense. All things being equal a pint from a barrel is better.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 12:41 PM

you are right broon can be better in bottles ....sometimes....


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 01:02 PM

Just out of interst (and I know I shouldn't) why do you think bottled beer is "wrong" for "folk venues"?

Maybe he thinks that horses drink out of bottles?

No, on second thought, I suppose he must mean that horses fill the bottles!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Goose Gander
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 01:59 PM

Should folk be canned in a Designated Beer Context, or should barrels be bottled?

Or bothered.

Or buggered.

Bah!


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: The Villan
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 02:18 PM

Maybe he has seen this

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2532/3721697508_bb9b496067.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 02:35 PM

Broon? as There's nee toon broon like a canny toon broon or some such. In the vernacular we call it Dog and it drink from a half-pint Wellington glass specially made for the purpose. In this respect Wiki is spot on.

Is right they brew it in Yorkshire now?


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 02:39 PM

wouldn't it be even more pure green energy efficient and 'folk'
to just swallow a few lbs of raw organic malt barley and hops etc
and just let the whole bleedin lot ferment slowly in your big fat folkie beer guts ???


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 02:45 PM

hi S'OP

Ah !! Newky Brown. Nowt wrong with that. generally I do prefer draught beer but there are some bottles that I enjoy for a change.

I used to work in Scotland and I enjoyed Youngers Double Century Ale again on occasions rather as first choice.

Not seen it around recently.

cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 02:51 PM

I used to drink quite a bit of Newky Brown before I moved to Tyneside - it seemed to have less body in its home town. As for another of S&N's Newcastle products, it was nearly enough to make me an ex beer drinker.

The bonus was that in England I could get Lorimer's.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 02:57 PM

hi

There's no such thing as bad beer.........some are just worse than others.

With regard to bottle versus draught , I suppose that once bottled it is difficult to meddle or not care for it correctly.

Some time ago in my local the landlord changed and the newcomer tarted up the pub but the beer was b....y awful.

Then one night we came in and the beer was on form....one wag at the bar enquired " Did someone break in last night and clean out the pipes??"

As for the question in the thread....as John McEnrow used to say " You can't be serious".

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 03:01 PM

Hi Dave

Ah The Caley.....now I have been oft hissed on that. But I only ever found it in and around Edinburgh.

Not seen it in England....I must change my glasses.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 03:11 PM

Anyone passing through Todmorden be sure to pop in to The Bare Arts Brewery - great beer, great bottles & great company. I did a gig there a couple of years back - Pic Here. Well away on the imperial stout by the 2nd half, but the audience were too....


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: vectis
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 04:15 PM

The beer "down under" is like frozen gnatspee so a bottle of decent British ale is very welcome.
If there isn't any good beer at a venue then bottled half decent is fine.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: 3refs
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 06:57 AM

This is alarming

Beer contains female hormones! Yes, that's right, FEMALE hormones!

April2009, Sydney University and scientists released the results of a recent analysis that revealed the presence of female hormones in beer.

Men should take a concerned look at their beer consumption.

The theory is that beer contains female hormones (hops contain Phytoestrogens) and that by drinking enough beer, men turn into women .

To test the theory, 100 men each drank 8 schooners of beer within a one (1) hour period.

It was then observed that 100% of the test subjects, yes, 100% of all these men:-

1) Argued over nothing.

2) Refused to apologize when obviously wrong.

3) Gained weight.

4) Talked excessively without making sense.

5) Became overly emotional

6) Couldn't drive.

7) Failed to think rationally, and

8) Had to sit down while urinating.

No further testing was considered necessary!!


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Bernard
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 09:28 AM

I've also heard their accuracy when throwing 'arrers' (darts if yer furrin) came into question...


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: GUEST,dicky boy
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 10:28 AM

ALTHOUGH DRAUGHT BEER IS ME FAVORITE TIPPLE NOWT WRONG WITH BOTTLED WOLD TOP QUIET NICE IN FACT .


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: The Villan
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 11:44 AM

3refs, you forgot to mention how it affects the sensory receptors that create an illusion and makes all women look beautiful and like models. As each pint is consumed, so the illusion improves.

The downside is the next morning when you wake up and look at your good lady. The illusion is shattered well and good.

I'll get me pint


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: theleveller
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 12:16 PM

"ALTHOUGH DRAUGHT BEER IS ME FAVORITE TIPPLE NOWT WRONG WITH BOTTLED WOLD TOP QUIET NICE IN FACT . "

Wouldn't know, dick, I'm still waiting to try a bottle :)


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Beer
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 01:17 PM

I got it. Lets use plastic bottles of beer.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 02:20 PM

When we went to Sudbury last Summer, visited the Green King brewery:
Willy Wonkalike


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: GUEST,3refs
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 08:43 PM

And then it turns into "Sudbury Silver Foam"!


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Bugsy
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 09:26 PM

Suibhne O'Piobaireachd and Dave McKenzie, you should come down to Australia. We have Newcastle Brown on Tap here! I think it may be one of the few places in the world where it's available.
(Now watch me be proved wrong) ;)

With regard to bottled beer at folk clubs, who cares what it comes in as long as it tastes good!

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 11:02 PM

"broon" (I have never heard neukey anywhere but usa) is available in any large draught beer oriented bar in Baltimore. Hardly a brew pub without it. But not as fresh as it could be as the price is higher than it should be so it sits for I think longer than it should another reason to eliminate price greed.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 11:04 PM

bottles would not be too bad if they could deliver them to me twelve at a time asking for them individually wastes time and causes thirst rather than quencing it


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Bugsy
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 02:49 AM

Vectis.."The beer "down under" is like frozen gnatspee..." Where about are you based "Downunder"? We have some pretty decent beers over here in WA.

CHeers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 03:47 AM

"And then it turns into "Sudbury Silver Foam"!"

Better make that "Bury Bubbles" (I meant Bury St. Edmonds not Sudbury) and while I'm at it I aught to add a belated extra 'e' too.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 10:03 PM

I find that bottled beer is far different animal than draught. I remember my first guinness. I got a bottle first thing when I got to london in the 70s from germany. Still can't stand bottled guinness and can't afford it at $6.00 - 7 a pint.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Mar 10 - 03:39 PM

Speaking of animals:

I'll be there with my guitar and my six-pack of "Moose Drool."

[Montana micro-brewery.]

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 14 Mar 10 - 03:59 PM

No-one has yet mentioned the folk art of pouring bottle-conditioned beer... White Shield anyone?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Mar 10 - 04:56 PM

I've poured a few White Shields in my time - great head!


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Mar 10 - 04:56 PM

Unless it's bottle-conditioned, bottled beer is filtered, pasteurised and carbonated. This radically alters the flavour of the brew. If you like the taste, go for it, but the only bottled beer I'll drink is bottle-conditioned. Try Summer Lightning or any of the bottle-conditioned ones from Sharp's - Special Bitter, Single Brew Reserve or Chalky's Bite are all superb. If you visit the brewery shop you can even get bottle-conditioned Doom Bar which is far superior to the standard bottled Doom. A lot of supermarkets are selling Duvel in 330ml bottles for about £1.70 these days (it's over 8% so plenty of wallop for yer dosh) which is a silly price for such a brilliant brew.


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 01:45 PM

Should bottled cider be banned?


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 07:45 PM

Not until they get more places to provide it draught locally.

Actually I looked into getting a keg of woodchuck and found it terribly terribly expensive. Outrageously expensive. One would think they would like it to become more popular. I was going to serve it via the tap on my apple and eve art truck last summer.

Conrad


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 01:53 AM

Hell yes!!!..It doesn't even compare to bottled hot dog water!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: should bottled beer be banned
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 08:45 PM

Shhh! You don't recognize me in my Groucho glasses!

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

*#2 PHEASANT*
(The Proud Bird with it's Head up its Tail)


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