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Barnsley singaround Easter 2010

GUEST,padgett 02 Mar 10 - 06:19 AM
My guru always said 02 Mar 10 - 07:40 AM
GUEST,padgett 03 Mar 10 - 05:35 AM
nutty 03 Mar 10 - 09:09 AM
Dennis the Elder 03 Mar 10 - 09:33 AM
r.padgett 03 Mar 10 - 10:04 AM
Zany Mouse 03 Mar 10 - 10:49 AM
GUEST,padgett 06 Mar 10 - 05:05 AM
Herga Kitty 06 Mar 10 - 12:08 PM
GUEST,Lady Nancy 07 Mar 10 - 05:03 PM
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GUEST,padgett 08 Mar 10 - 04:05 AM
GUEST,johnp 08 Mar 10 - 07:32 AM
GUEST,padgett 08 Mar 10 - 01:03 PM
GUEST,padgett 09 Mar 10 - 07:27 AM
GUEST,MC Fat (at work) 09 Mar 10 - 07:44 AM
GUEST,padgett 09 Mar 10 - 12:33 PM
r.padgett 11 Mar 10 - 03:16 AM
GUEST,MC Fat (at work) 11 Mar 10 - 04:50 AM
r.padgett 11 Mar 10 - 09:41 AM
r.padgett 12 Mar 10 - 09:31 AM
nutty 12 Mar 10 - 10:35 AM
GUEST,padgett 15 Mar 10 - 02:09 PM
GUEST,padgett 17 Mar 10 - 04:55 AM
scowie 18 Mar 10 - 04:06 AM
r.padgett 18 Mar 10 - 11:55 AM
scowie 18 Mar 10 - 12:37 PM
Betsy 18 Mar 10 - 08:40 PM
r.padgett 19 Mar 10 - 03:26 AM
GUEST,padgett 21 Mar 10 - 04:11 AM
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Subject: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 06:19 AM

Is on at the Shaw Inn April 2/3/4th despite a period when we had no club venue a new landlord Danny, is now in place and virtually all we had suggested will be in place as usual

Friday/Saturday/Sunday and club Monday night

I do hope that this eases any doubts, please pass the message on

Barnsley folk club continues every Monday in the upstairs room

Last night's visiting artists included Fyrish, Dave Kidman, John Booker, Michelle Howell, Dave Bottomley, Sarah Dobson, Peter, Dave and Stirrings editor Raymond Greenoaken on his 3monthly visit!! o and Ray Padgett (me)

Sarah is keen to encourage musicians for the early Monday evening session, songs etc from 9pm until gone 11 pm

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: My guru always said
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 07:40 AM

Sounds great, Ray! Wish we could join you but alas, we'll be a little busy ourselves at Easter *grin* Have a Fab Time!!!


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 05:35 AM

Yes enjoy yerselves flower

Dunt look like any body is coming to Barnsley then!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: nutty
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 09:09 AM

I'll be there Ray - I'm spreading the word so dont get worried


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 09:33 AM

Ray, I will also be there, some of the time an am looking forward to it.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 10:04 AM

O good!!

Hope to see you all!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 10:49 AM

Mick and I are thinking about it.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 06 Mar 10 - 05:05 AM

Looking foward to this and some characters been signed up for weeks!!

Hope to see Scowie, Hazel, Michael O'Leary Johns, Kevin Hall, Ken Hall and Marion, Dog Watch and others!!

My house is full!!

Graeme Knights coming early he says, and Jim Mageean and Graeme guesting on Sunday pm.

Might get rid of em by Wednesday with any luck!!

Monday night of course is the folk club and if all goes to plan the campervans will be in the Shaw yard and carpark

Now looking to firm up on Comperes for Friday/Saturday please let me know who is available

Thanks

Ray Padgett


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 06 Mar 10 - 12:08 PM

I'll be introducing Roy Bailey at Haddenham on 3 April - wishing you all a great time in Barnsley!

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,Lady Nancy
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 05:03 PM

Wow! Back in the mid-70s I remember the Easter festival when it was council-run and we camped on the municipal playing fields and it SNOWED like big time!

Hope to make it at least for the Saturday. What goes on during the day, or is it just an evening thing?

Be nice to catch up with you, Ray, as well.

LN


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,Lady Nancy
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 05:04 PM

Er, can you PM me your personal e-mail, Ray. My computer crashed at Christmas and my address book is lacking many addresses.

Thanks
Hilary


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 04:05 AM

LN (Hilary)you like me need to log on so that I can pm you!

However will probably send you an email, I think that you are on talktalk still?

WE start on Friday late pm about 6pm and finish upstairs later


Saturday start 12 noon musicians downstairs until 6pm, singers etc upstairs until 6pm

Break and restart upstairs from 7 or 7.30 upstairs only (Sat)

Sunday from 12 noon Alberts Skiffle band, followed by Jim Mageean and Graeme Knights from about 1.30, shanties NE songs etc

Survivors after that!!

Phew had enough already

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,johnp
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 07:32 AM

Hi Ray
where are alberts skiffle band from? not heard of them before


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 01:03 PM

Alberts Skiffle band are from the Rivelin Valley folk club in Sheffield

They did the warm up last year when we were at the KEEL Inn

They did a fine job last year with Albert doing his party piece too!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 07:27 AM

Not too long now but there is also aBarnsley festival over the

period 19/20/21 March late advertised and it has Eliza Carthy with

Dave Burland and Gerry McNeice on 19th at the Civic, Demon Barbers

Kerfuffle, Jez Lowe and

Dana and Susan Robinson witha showcase of locals in the afternoon at Kingstone school on 20th from 2pm until 7.30pm (Saturday)

Martin Simpson. Lau, Gilmore and Roberts, Pete Morton and Megson at Kingstone school on 21st March

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work)
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 07:44 AM

Glad to see things are progressing Raymundo. Should be there Saturday as usual for most (if not all) of day.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 12:33 PM

Hope to see you on Easter Sat Jimmy

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 03:16 AM

Mcs still needed for Friday and Saturday

Offers from Dave Kidman and Dave Nuttall/Brian from Wakefield contingent

Musicians for session downstairs catered for and Roy Hardacre coming as usual

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work)
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 04:50 AM

i'll be there for the afternoon at least Padge


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 09:41 AM

OK JIm

I'm not sure whether Lady Alfreada (spelling sorry) is coming, twas rumoured! Maybe Brian Colley from Hartlepool

I do know I will be very busy

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 09:31 AM

RE fish

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: nutty
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 10:35 AM

i could do some MCing Ray. Also don't forget Ken Hall and Dave Howden - they are invariably available for MC duties.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 02:09 PM

Thanks Hazel

Dave Howdon and Ken, Dave Nuttall and Brian, Dave Kidman

I am just awaiting who else is coming? who likes to MC?

Joe and MO?

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 17 Mar 10 - 04:55 AM

Easter

So Friday arriving ppl let me know ETA please. If no one about,

there is initially a good cobbled area for parking around the pub until we sort out the camper parking inside the area.

Singing hope to be underway at 7.30 at least Friday

Saturday start at noon

Sunday noon and very likely downstairs set up with Alberts' Skiffle band with Jim Mageean and Graeme Knights from around 1 to 1.30 start

survivors session probably upstairs and may be some staying until Mon/Tuesday for the folk club

Note campervan area at a premium

For those needing extra strong beer there is a "beer off" 100 yrds away, but not for drinking in the pub please

Those staying with me when are you coming and when are yer going!!

Sorry tired already!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: scowie
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 04:06 AM

Raymundo! You missed a GOOD DO at the Station Inn Oxenhope,Dave and Mick Shaw made it, and had to take all the flack for your non-appearence.
I will round up the gang and let you know full details about uz Lankys stopping with you, but its a full LANCASTRIAN BREAKFAST (i.e.an English plus Chadwicks black puddin' off Bury Market),for me served in bed with a gallon of Guiness to start the day off right.
I look forward to enjoying some of that legendary Yorkshire hospitality.
Get it right and i may get Cafferey to help you with the washing up!
Chin up old bean! Scowie.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 11:55 AM

O hell!!

So you bringing the black pudding then?

I will get the bath for the Guiness washing workshop flower, plenty of cheap price Guiness available from the "beer off" in Racecommon Rd

Me, I am happy to take you to my favourite breakfast cafe in Doncaster Rd next to NACODS

O I use ONLY the micro wave and NO fat of any description so washing up is not on the itineray.

My cholestrol wont stand it

So when you coming then??

[That'll see 'em off]

Glad you had a good do at Oxenholme, I think Fyrish went too?

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: scowie
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 12:37 PM

Raymundo, Fyrish did indeed attend, absolutely, Marjorie with her chello stole the day, and many a heart went with it amongst uz Lankies.We are thinking of adopting them.
Also Frank and Sheila Lewis. time served folkies whose contributions continue to improve and inspire,it was all much to our satisfaction.
It's a pity you could not afford the fare, but rest easy the next is a little closer to your golden acres, it will be at the Buffet Bar Stalybridge Station on the Huddersfield to Manchester line, date to be annouced.No dodging out this time Raymundo, or your credentials will be called into question, who knows we may even decide to LANCASTRATE you, and make you one of uz own!!!!
AH bi seein' thi, ah best skedadle! Scowie.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: Betsy
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 08:40 PM

Scowie ,
Can I watch someone drink a gallon of Guinness for breakfast ? - I think not - methinks a Lankie getting a bit carried away


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 03:26 AM

I seem to recall Frank Lewis won the Shanty competition at Redcar ff one year

Does he still make Bodrans!!

Hya Betsy, he's a big lad is that Scowie, glad I have a shower ~ he's not bathing in Guiness in my house (nor drinking from it!!)

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 21 Mar 10 - 04:11 AM

Busy time here, off to York for a YG meeting and finish off at Barnsley Roots festival with Lau, if I make it!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: r.padgett
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 03:54 AM

Tired out again after YG meeting, good turn up for Mttgs

Jimmy do you want to do some compering on Saturday? Devil makes work for idle hands??

The bookies is 50 yrds away btw

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 03:14 PM

Looking good now

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: ossonflags
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 04:18 PM

Will see you in't Shaw Sunday afternoon Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: ossonflags
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 02:57 AM

feresh


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: scowie
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 05:24 AM

Raymundo & Co.   The hour draws nigh, the tension builds....I will be accompanied by my brother Alan, his first time at a Folkie event, so please Ladies have a care with this virgin material, he's no where near as case-hardened as I am!
I hope you have been saving up Raymond, as I haven't and someone will have to pay the bar bill!
Cheers Chappies.....Scowie.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 06:24 AM

Scowie, not known at this address!!

Booker has sent me maps of China and Outer Mongolia and four sandwiches ~ I think he trying to say something

Looking forward to seeing all and hope all works out

Campervan space for Fri/Sat is scarce!! hope we can get away with one or two around the pub

Mick ~ Sunday campervan space may become available as weekenders go

Survivors for Sunday and Easter Monday looking promising too, folk club Monday night of course

Sunday will be fab, got Alberts Skiffle band and the Graeme and JIm

I bet no one wants to go home!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: ossonflags
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:23 AM

Cheers for that ray ; will only be up for't arternoon and that.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work)
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 05:37 AM

Will be there around noon Raymundo. Only coming for day (I think ?) will play it by ear when I go. Perhaps early evening maybe later if I can get a lift back.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 01:52 PM

Upstairs
Saturday start at Noon with me John Booker and Scowie in charge (or not)

2 until 4pm Dave Nuttall and Brian in charge
4pm until 6pm Dave Howdon

7pm with Judie or A.N.Other to be decided from who comes on the day

Saturday Downstairs, musicians etc Roy Hardacre and friends and who comes until 6pm

Upstairs from 7pm (only)

Sunday 12.30 Albert' Skiffle band

Sunday Jim and Graeme from 1.30pm down in the main pub (£5 please!!)

Followed by Survivors session (maybe up stairs or down)

MOnday probably day sing and Folk club Monday night

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 02 Apr 10 - 02:35 AM

Hope some of you come
It starts 7pm tonight

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 02 Apr 10 - 07:30 AM

Seeya there!


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: Lady Nancy
Date: 04 Apr 10 - 04:59 PM

I was there with Ced yesterday (Saturday) and we had a wonderful time. Downstairs in the afternoon with the musicians - a totally diverse set of musicians and instruments, but we still managed to find tunes in common! then in the evening we joined the singers upstairs and the quality was really very good!

Well done those who organised it and if it wasn't for the animals here (horse, dogs and hens) we'd've stayed for the whole weekend.

LN


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 04 Apr 10 - 05:44 PM

Yep - just got back! A brilliant weekend, and big thanks to Ray for organising it. In the diary for next year already...


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 06 Apr 10 - 06:42 AM

Yes thanks to Dave KIdman, Dave Howdon, Judie Knight, Brian/Dave ~ all who came

Graeme and Jim who did a great Sunday pm and dropped in Young 'Uns and Mick McGarry and John Thrall (2/3rds T'Owd Chyvers!)

Thanks to John and Joy [Dogwatch] and Ken and Marion and Carole , Jo and Mo, Sue, Reg

Steve and Maggie Robinson who hosted guests at home (as did I)

Scowie ~ still looking for his voice, John and Dorothy

Any one I missed, O musicians Hilary (Sandrigg) Ced, Dave and son Martin [Brackenrigg!] Tony and Mel, now who was the concertina guy (who was good!) The Lone Ranger?

as Raymond Greenoaken says, keep taking the tablets!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work)
Date: 06 Apr 10 - 06:51 AM

Had a good Saturday despite the lack of any proper beer. Nice to meet the usual suspects and play some new stuff. well done Padge and John B


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 04:40 AM

Whoops, Dave's son from Brackenrigg is Patrick

JImmy, we were lucky to still have the Shaw, I reckon Danny and his crew did a fine job, despite other than the beers he was able to stock and sell

See you later and thanks for your songs

Cheers


Ray


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: scowie
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 03:02 PM

I was there Friday and Saturday, and despite loosing my voice to a asthma/chest infection thingy had a great time, as did my brother Alan who was with me, and exposed to it for the first time.It's a great room to sing in, it reminded me of so many of the old folk club rooms that in the past we shared with the Buffalos and Masons, their decorations were always about, the accoustics were superb, and aided the singers. No gripes about the beer from me, of it's type it was good, and we have to be grateful for small mercies these days with pubs shutting wholesale. The singing was superb, good to see all the usual suspects were out in force after the winter break,also the music session was excellent and very difficult to tear oneself away from whilst getting a refill.
All in all, a very enjoyable weekend, many thanks to Ray Padgett for his kind hospitality, it was all very much apreciated by two Lanky stalwarts!
Cheers Scowie.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,Charlie
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 03:16 AM

Hey Ray, The concertina man in the bar was Geoff Wright, also of Brakenrigg Country Dance Band.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: MC Fat
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 03:22 AM

Not griping about the service and welcome from Alan and staff which was superb. I know the landlord really enjoyed the musicians downstairs cos i was sat with him and Scowie you are right about the upstairs room it's a cracker, I reckon it was an old pub 'music hall'.


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Subject: RE: Barnsley singaround Easter 2010
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 04:13 AM

Thanks for all the kind words

The upstairs room had until a few years ago been host to at least two Buffalo Lodges and they certainly had problems getting the buffalos backside out of the wall!! when they moved the horns

What is the difference between a Bison and a Buffalo?

You can wash your face in a Bison! [for our American friends]

Ray


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