The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)

Subject: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 04:26 PM

Any Mudcatters with an interest in or involved with traditional music in Wales? Read on ... Trac are organising a day of networking and information sharing aimed at publishers, event organisers and performers on March 27th at the National Waterfront Museum in Swansea, starting at 10.00 am.   There will be a welcome from Frank Hennessy and various speakers lined up to talk on topics relevant to each interest group (and some relevant to all of us), and we're hoping this might be the first step towards a Welsh version of Folk Arts England or even the Americana Folk Alliance. We're also arranging some time specifically for meeting each other and chatting, and the ticket price includes a buffet lunch.
So we hope you'll want to come along! To book a place (as indeed places are limited) you should email or phone the number on the website .   £10.00 in advance or £15.00 on the day itself.
Pm me if you have any queries that aren't addressed on the website!

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 04:28 PM

Ooops ... where do these typos come from? That's North American, not Americana ... didn't engage brain swiftly enough when fingers played with the keyboard!   And I won't even mention the misplaced full stop.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 03:04 AM

What's a ' tradiator ' ? is it some sort of traditional radiator ?
certainly a word I've never heard before.

Dave H

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Splott Man
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 04:01 AM

Freshly coined for the event - it's allowed you know.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 04:07 AM

What's a ' tradiator ' ?
Someone who wields tradition? Just as a gladiator (not those on TV) wields a sword (gladius)?

Just a thought

Nigel

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 05:06 AM

Yep. Tradiator = a traditional music activist. Good in Welsh too: Traddiatoriaid.

I'll be there - obviously.

Got some good speakers lined up. I just spent yesterday with Huw Williams and Robin Huw Bowen doing workshops in the gypsy unit at Monkton Priory School, Pembrokeshire - and both of them will be speaking on the 27th. We've also got DK from MediaSnackers who, I've heard, is great at explaining how tradiators can best use social networking and new media.

Times are going to be very tight for professional musicians and for promoters (pro or voluntary) over the next couple of years. This event is a first step in trying to get people to network, and think laterally; in unity is strength, and all that ...

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 05:38 AM

I'm wondering who will be the first to write the tune for the March of the Tradiators ...
So come on, Mudcatters - sign up!

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 05:48 AM

"Tradiator = a traditional music activist."

Lol! Tradiator! Would make a top tee shirt slogan!

Plus it also reminds me of a name for a dinosaur, which is also apt on a level..

not quite this...

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 06:02 AM

Well, I dunno Crow Sister. I think I bear a certain resemblance to the second on the left ...

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 06:46 AM

"I bear a certain resemblance to the second on the left"

Aha, well Sian you really aught to top up your fake tan and add a headband to that outfit if you want to appear as much of a superhero as the rest.

So know we know what you lot look like, what are the Tradiator's superpowers?

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 07:50 AM

Survival against all odds.

Predicting the future. ("Don't go for a soldier, don't join no army. for the dove she will leave you; the raven will come and death will come marching at the sound of a drum")

umm. Will try to think of others ...

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 06:35 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Charmion
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 09:27 AM

Another power of the tradiator: ability to launch and organize major popular events with ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 10:43 AM

Charmion - spot on, but how did you guess?!

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Charmion
Date: 14 Mar 10 - 11:59 AM

I get around in my tea-break -- to the Orkney Folk Festival, and Whitby Folk Week, and the Getaway (Folklore Society of Greater Washington), and the Indian Neck Folk Festival (somewhere in Connecticut), and the Celtic Roots Festival (Goderich, Ontario), and Summerfolk (Owen Sound, Ontario), and the Ottawa Folk Festival ...

Tradiators appear in the oddest places. You'll know there's one in your neighbourhood when you spot a grimy poster that says something like "New trad band seeks guy/girl with small-pipes ..."

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Two of a Hind
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 06:10 AM

Who do you make the cheques payable to and where do you send them.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:13 AM

Two of a Hind .... go to the Trac website and all the details are there.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Two of a Hind
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:41 AM

I does'nt actualy give that specific information. I take that make cheque to TRAC and send it to the PO Box 428 in Cardiff.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 11:08 AM

Yes, Two. Thanks.

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 03:55 AM

refresh again ...it's coming soon, folks ...

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Two of a Hind
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 12:59 PM

Cheques gone in the post

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Two of a Hind
Date: 17 Mar 10 - 12:35 PM

And I'm sure it will be worth getting up at daft O'clock to go across to Swansea.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 17 Mar 10 - 06:51 PM

I'll serve you a cuppa with my own lily-whites on your arrival ... as long as you let me know who you are and I'm not up to my plectrum sorting something out ... !

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 17 Mar 10 - 06:52 PM

And if Sian is too busy I may not be ... we'll do our very best to make your early start worthwhile!

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Two of a Hind
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 12:52 PM

A cuppa on arrival, it's getting better every day.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 01:12 PM

Maybe I'd better have a bacon butty in reserve ...

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Krassis
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 08:26 AM

Should be lots of useful information

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 12:01 PM

Absolutely .... still a few places available!

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Krassis
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 08:11 AM

And I believe that every subject will be delivered in Welsh and English, is that correct.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 05:09 PM

There will be translators on hand, yes, of course! So all perfectly clear in Welsh or English.

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 06:17 PM

Actually, to be strictly correct, the language of delivery depends on the presenter ... so, for instance, DK from MediaSnackers will be doing his session on taking advantage of New Media & Social Networking in English. But, because there will be translators present, discussions can take place in either language.

Looking forward to seeing everyone. Seems we have a decent sized group coming.

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: GUEST,Two of a Hind
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 09:17 AM

Dear all who made us feel so welcome and part of this endeavour to promote traitional music in Wales. It was great to meet so many people that were only names on paper before, Dave Parsons, Joy, Sian, Cas the Boys from Loughor folk club the Pontardawe team and others who's names escape at this moment. Sian many thanks for the bacon butty it was much appreciated. Not forgetting Blanche who did an excellent job co-ordinating the day.
Right, where do we go from here, as you now know there are informal agreements between some of the clubs already regarding booking and discounted tickets for our members who visit other clubs, can this be co-ordinated even further offering more benefits to all our members, can Trac set up sheet music on your website of common tunes and songs, fidel ffadel, march of the men of devon, Mychynlleth, Alan y mor and so on and other that you wish to promote. Is it possible to organise concerts/dances various areas in conjunction with local groups that could financialy benefit from them (best kept village committee) that could attract their own membership or following, allowing us to highjack them at some stage by letting them know where there local club or dance is, discount block booking trough trac for festival tickets. Subsidised workshops to the membership of affiliated clubs.

Do not go gently into that good night

Enough of my thoughts, thank you all, lets do it again.

Terry & Ann

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: sian, west wales
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 10:01 AM

Thanks for the thanks Terry, and I hope the bacon butty sustained you on your way home.

I think underlying everything we discussed is the fact that "In Unity There is Strenght". I've started a list of things I'm going to bring up with the Arts Council!

And I'm definitely going to contact my Elected Representatives - or those who are touting for my vote - regarding the small venues exemptions in the Licencing Act. Lots of useful contact info at Live Music Forum ... which is NOT the gov't's LMF, but the earlier independent one.

trac is, btw, trying to work out ways of getting more tunes and songs up on the web. We've started a Youtube channel (early days) and we've got some dribs and drabs of funding to do more with MP3s, et al. I'll let you know as they become available.

Generally, I definitely think that - if nothing else - we at least meet up on a regular basis. Lovely to put faces to names!

sian

Subject: RE: The Day of the Tradiators (Wales)
From: Anne Lister
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 03:33 PM

I'll get my thoughts in order tomorrow and send something off to you, Sian - but I drove home feeling extremely warm and fuzzy that it had all gone so well.
So if anyone is reading this thread who didn't attend, make sure you get to the next one!