Mudcat Tavern - Round 5

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: alison
Date: 10 Aug 99 - 08:32 AM

This is getting too long to load......

let's all hold hands and sing Wild Mountain Thyme

and we'll all go together to the Mudcat Tavern round 6

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 10 Aug 99 - 05:26 AM

...just seen Bron's confession re: Sospan Fach! There's shameful, girl! Despite being a Brummie, I came away from 3 years in Cardiff with Cosher Bailey and Sospan Fach implanted in my brain! There's an English & Welshlish (ie phonetic Welsh) version in the DT. I've probably got the Welsh written down somewhere... or were you just being modest?
Ever tried penyllion[spelling?] with voice and kazoo instead of harp? We could liven up this Tavern? No? Oh, all right then! Hwyl RtZ

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 10 Aug 99 - 04:44 AM

Thanks to your kind words, bbc, the boss has bought me a new tanker with bull bars, and a copy of the A-Z of the Galaxy for when you move again. He's trying out a new line in root beer flavour jello, as the Guiness bath seemed to be an aquired taste (and Mick's aquired most of it, I see).
He's not sure if velcro jumping while under the affluence of incohol breaches a city ordinance so you better move again soon.
Well, I'll just have a pickmeup, if I fail a breath test I'll blame the lab, get Legal Eagle to defend me, and there must be a Mudcat boffin who can prove my metabolism naturally produces high levels of blood in my alcohol stream.
Now I'll sit here quietly working out my top 10 jazz albums: Hot 5s; Bechet, Louis and the Clarence Williams Blue 5;Oscar Peterson Night Train;Jimmy Giuffre Train and the River;Basie Atomic Mr Basie;Ellington 40th Anniversary concert....open the cage. Perhaps the blues list is easier: Fred McDowell, Broonzy, Leadbelly, Bessie Smith, Sonny & Brownie, Elmore, Robert Johnson, Jesse Fuller, Howlin Wolf, John Lee....but which albums??? NO, it's no good, I'll try and think up some Deep Thoughts while PeterT is on holiday. No, shallow thoughts are my speciality. I'll stick to jello delivering I think!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 10 Aug 99 - 02:41 AM

Wait, dammit, WAIT! You will not close this bar until I have consumed one Baba Brau courtesy of Catspaw and two jiggers of nectar sent over by Mick. Thanks, guys...and Leej, I hope that Jack who may have Mudcat privileges wherever he is isn't offended: after all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, they say. And I did read two of his books back then, and sit on the floor to drink chianti and eat cheese and french bread, which somehow I associated with being Beat back then, and a few years later I wandered into City Lights bookstore but didn't find Ferlinghetti so I wandered up to where the statue of Saint Francis used to be: the birds were still there, anyway. --seed

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 Aug 99 - 12:46 AM

Let me close all the windows before we teleport to Round 6. Last time all of the tablecloths got caught in the vortex and were scattered all over Tiple Street. Alright, let me just assume the full Lotus position. Now bbc, click your heels together three times and say " there's no place like home... there's no place like home..."

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 10 Aug 99 - 12:28 AM

Well, folks, enjoy your drinks and conversation. I'm off to home to get a little sleep. Maybe overnight one of our computer gurus can waft us into Round 6! Goodnight!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 10:23 PM

True Leej....And as I write this, I'm also watching the HBO Special on one of MY favorites....a great 20th century philosopher that I'm always quoting...Lenny Bruce......Great film and sound clips so far.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 09:33 PM

seed... damn you to hell but that was pretty close to the truth. I haven't read any Jack in at least 20 years, so I don't know if his stuff would impress me like it did when I was a young freewheeling punk with an attitude and in constant search of "the meaning of it all." What I remember liking was the enthusiasm and sense of exploration in Kerouac's prose. Sometimes the rhythm and free association in his rants reminded me of one of Coltrane's sax solos. If I went back and read the same passages with my middle-aged eye, I might see only the glaring wrong notes.

I believe that the seeking and the breaking of new ground was what that generation of poets, novelists and musicians was all about. And when you tear down the barriers, the attempt to bring new order to the resulting chaos is often unsuccessful, sometimes laughable, but usually entertaining. The works they did should certainly never be given the status of cultural icons, since these guys were the foremost among iconoclasts themselves.

LEJ

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 06:31 PM

Like I said Mick, I don't think Ol' Seed missed a thing!!! I had Karen read it and I busted a gut again as I re-read it. Seed, you're truly one off. .....Well perhaps two or three........maybe more!?!? And why don't you grab a flight with El Swanno back east here.......Hey if you belly up on the way back, at least you're in a Squad Unit with an EMT!!!!! Give that boy another one me too bbc!

And while you're at it I'll have a LaBatt's Blue before supper..........ahhhhh, still remembering the weekend....

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Llanfair
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 06:12 PM

Earl Grey, hot, please, Barbara. I hope white Astra Estates don't count as white vans!!, I'm a very courteous driver, for a social worker, that is. The floods in the UK aren't affecting us this time, just a lot of rain, but that's what it's supposed to do in Wales. Oh and I don't know the words to Sospan Fach, sorry. Hwyl. Bron.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 06:07 PM

LMA completely off...............my gawd, but I just read Seed's post....................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......it has to go into the book............bbc, send that man a double of John Jameson's very finest.........I don't know if I am going to get over this one.......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 01:42 PM

We *are* getting an interesting mix of patrons, these days! That table in the corner's free, sir. Put your buns down & I'll get you some tea. ;)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Peter T.
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 12:51 PM

And then how much of this is the real Zen, the axe through the still hub of the wheel of the mind, and how much the SCARED OF SILENCE SUTRA?
Name's Ryder, Japhy Ryder, ma'am and I'd be beholding to you for one of those dharma buns and a cup of whisked green tea.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 12:07 PM

Wait a minute, Roger. I'm not sure I got that order straight! I thought you wanted coffee &, then, in light of all your comments, I wondered if you needed the hard stuff? No delivery today! I don't want to be the one to tell LEJ; we depend on you to keep us in a variety of flavors, etc. Tough luck with the van guy! Duane's in traffic every day & it's about to drive him over the edge, literally! Please stay w/ us, Roger; we need you!

Neil, I'd love to sit a minute & have someone wait on me. You guys are all so kind! Yes, cream & sugar, please. That's my 3rd cup this morning, though. Gotta stop before I get jittery.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 11:49 AM

bbc, a large one , quick, no deliveries today, the tanker got rearended by a white van, then there were the floods in the UK, the boss can't understand why my delivery route keeps changing and it looks like the Tavern might move again soon. Plus Rick's set an entrance exam. I'm going to give up this life, go to S.America and learn the tiple or go south and blow up a possum or go to Oz and get the digeridoo players to teach me circular breathing on the kazoo.
I used to think Mr Rick ["I though I told you never to sing that (or anything), Roger"] and I had similar tastes: music, humour, now I find out he's a trekker! Gimme another, I'm gettin' maudlin.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 11:25 AM

bbc: Nahh....are you kidding? No hard feelings ... thank ye fer yer kind concern, but I'll be all right after I finish the shock treatments...besides....I wouldn't want to alien-ate myself from the best and most indefatigable beermaid, distilled-spirits slinger, and carbohydrate connoisseur this side of Cyber City. Who else would I get brave enough to serve me and my otherworldly friends? Let me get you a cup of coffee...you deserve to rest your dogs a spell. Cream and sugar?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 08:45 AM

Hey, Neil! Bottomless cup of coffee, comin' right up! No hard feelings, I hope?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 07:58 AM

bbc...coffee. straight up. no chaser. And keep 'em coming. Thank you......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 07:55 AM

'Morning, all! I'm not sure I've been getting enough sleep to listen in on the conversations in here, lately. LEJ, thank goodness for that bartender's training! I think I'll just try to fill the orders for awhile. Some of you have been waiting for quite a long time, but since I know we have patient customers...let's see. Hi, Doug! Irish whiskey for you. Nightcaps for kat & cat, unless you'd rather have this morning's made-to-order omelettes. We have any topping you can think of! Just order 'em up! Think I'll do a little tidying in the back room & get ready for the day! I'm goin' take a look at the IQ quiz while I'm at it. Bet I can get a high score!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 05:54 AM

I don't think you missed a damn thing Seed!!!LMAO!!!!......Truly well stroked man!!! Leej...set one up for Seed on me................still LMAO...................

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 01:47 AM

It was almost forty years ago that I read On the Road and I didn't see too much to it--just a bunch of blather by some guy who'd found the world in his navel although he had to keep dusting the lint from it to see clearly enough to remember where the orgone collector was so he could find his friend with the wine and doobies--which helped to clarify the images projected by his goddamned umbilicus a little bit, so it wouldn't look so much like just some twisted flesh down there below his nipples and just at the top of the line of pubic hair rising from his crotch--which was what he really wanted to contemplate, which he knew was closer to the source of all secrets than a vestigial nutritional conduit which had lots of meaning when his mother was eating for two but which had lost it when it got cut and tied off, the only concern after that being whether it would be an inny or an outy but Burroughs obsessed about it when he should have given a bit more thought to the holes he kept poking into the veins at his elbows for the sustenance offered by his new mother the eyedropper--no, I couldn't see much there when behind in San Francisco were--lumped into the same generation--Ferlinghetti and Ginsberg and Corso and Rexroth and a bunch of others just as alienated from the "you in your goddamned Brooks Brothers suit, you son of a bitch" types who had--after all--killed Dylan Thomas but somehow found lots to think about without twisting into a lotus with fingers and thumbs formina a triangle framing their goddamned belly buttons--but reading Kerouak as projected by Neil and Leej makes me think maybe I missed something, so maybe I'll give The Subterranians another chance.

--seed

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 01:36 AM

Hey group....howzabout a nightcap...I gotta' get some sleep. Jeri ain't around is she......that catapult dnag near killed me.

Hi there Kat my luv.........let's talk about you visiting your son in the Hoosier state. This has been a great weekend, ya' know? Next one, we're heading to Kentucky to retrieve the boys and I'm getting anxious already. C'mon let's grab a table ....... aw fergawdsake Leej!!! There is STILL jell-o on these chairs..........No I ain't takin' the soap, you can FUGG it yourself!!! Hell man I GAVE YOU THAT SOAP!!!......get Cletus. I think he's passed out over in the Possum's Arse fountain....grab another chair Kat......yeah, here's one.......Hey, could we get some drinks please guys.......I'll shut up and just sit here quietly with Kat. Okay?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 01:15 AM

Hey bbc, would you believe I know EXACTLY what Neil is talking about. Must have been my in-depth training as a bartender.

LEJ

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 01:10 AM

Hi! Colin! Long time no see! Welcome back to the Mudcat & belly up to the bar wid us!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: DougR
Date: 09 Aug 99 - 12:34 AM

bbc:

My you're up late! I received your photos today and thanks for returning ours. You and Duane are a mighty handsome couple and your son favors you mightly!

I think at this point, a nightcap would do nicely and then its off to bed for me. If it's no bother, an Irish Whiskey would hit the spot, thank you.

DougR

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 11:09 PM

Hi, alison! Good to see you! Tea it is! Yes, I set aside a blueberry croissant for you, but there's jelly doughnuts today, too. Just watch the ones that Neil's been at. He claims one talked back to him, but I think that was after he'd been chatting at the bar too long! Oh, hi, Neil! It's good to see you, even though I don't understand half of what you're saying. Sorry if I've been playing mommy too much. What can I getcha?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Ballygally Whistler
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 09:55 PM

Umph........

lost,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Colin'''''''

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 09:23 PM

LEJ, I don't normally get clouded up meself but that last italicized passage.....gets you right where you live...or die. Damn, the last thing you need around here is a weepy drunk, wouldn't you think...what with the ghosts, jello pit, velcro wall (and concomitant activities all of dubious redeeming social value, but fun nevertheless)... and especially when you go mentioning the likes of absinthe...when people say your bar is well stocked, they really mean well stocked...hope you don't advertise that too loudly, though...probably wouldn't sit well with the boys down at the BATF - they're probably looking for just one more excuse so they can pull the license on this place anyway, as if all the above reasons weren't enough. I don't have words (for once) to express my gratitude at your offer ...I am honored and accept your gift with deep and humble reverence. Makes me feel a little guilty too because now I feel obligated to settle my bar bill. Could I pay in magic mushrooms? I'll have be a little surreptitious around Burroughs with this absinthe, though - he'd want a drop or two and it wouldn't mix well with the other medications he's taking...by the way, he says the cannon is a nice touch and where'd you get it? He'd like one for himself. bbc, there's something to be said for getting drunk before noon, and seems as though there is a traditional (fiddle?) tune to bolster my argument, called "Whiskey Before Breakfast." I appreciate your concern all the same....maybe next time I'll take you up on the coffee first, hold the roll and croissant, thank you. The tomato juice sounds good, with a dose of pantothentic acid on the side...supposed to counteract the deleterious effects of alcohol, or so I'm told... And I poked that jelly donut because I didn't like the expletive it hurled at me. If the donuts don't have anything nice to say at that time of the morning, they shouldn't say anything at all. The mother ship is waiting for me now....one for the road and then I'll be gone, if I'm not too far gone already.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: alison
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 08:40 PM

Hey Bron,

Just adapt Sospan Fach to include a few US football teams..

Who'll beat the cowboys /69ers......etc....

I need tea.... it's early morning, I assume someone took over from me behind the bar because I've been asleep..... any blueberry croissants left?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 02:22 PM

Thanks, anna--watching my weight! Just the tea for now.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: annamill
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 02:08 PM

Heh heh. My son, who is 22, just discovered me on the Tavern. He read a few postings and has decided we're weird. What does he know!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: annamill
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 02:02 PM

Is that all, bbc? How will you keep up your energy? How about a nice toasted bagel? Well, I'll get your tea while you decide. If you change your mind just let me know.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 01:57 PM

Hi, anna! Thanks for the offer! I think I am due for a short break. Just a cup of tea w/ milk & sugar would be nice. Thanks!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: annamill
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 01:09 PM

Good morning Everyone,

Ahh..just the thing for my music jones. That sounded wonderful Bron. bbc, if you don't mind I'll have the same as Rick. I've never had Labatts, but right now that sounds good. Oh, by the way Rick, a "live long and prosper" from me too.

May I help in the kitchen? Would you like me to get you something, bbc. You've been working so hard. You could sit and listen to bron. What can I get for you?

Then I may go out and sit on my beach for a while. I'm on vacation you know.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 12:56 PM

Sorry Bbc, I spent almost 20 years singing in taverns where the clientel was definitely NOT mudcat style. This little fantasy would have been wonderful back when I first hit the road.
LOve
Rick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 12:52 PM

Hi, Rick, haven't seen much of you in here! Coffee, eggs & bacon, w/ a Labatts chaser? If you say so. How about a doughnut? You need your energy, after yesterday's get-together!

Hay, Bron! Cup o' tea! Thanks for the song!

Who's next?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Llanfair
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 12:31 PM

Oh, all right, I'll have a cup of Earl Grey with just a teeny drop of milk, thanks. Iechyd dda means "good health". I am a bit grumpy at the moment, but it will pass. Right, here goes
"I'll sing you a song, and a very pretty one................"
Bron

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 11:09 AM

Hi there, although I'm not much of a drinker, I'll have a Labatts Blue, and some scrambled eggs and bacon. But first a Large, Black coffee!
Rick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 08:18 AM

You go ahead & sing, Bron! All the women (at least, most of them) will be listening & even some of the men! Care for a cup of tea before you start? I've been meaning to mention that Bill left us some good English tea. It's available, w/ the coffee, every morning 'til 11 am, any time zone--free at the bar, help yourselves! We also have a full selection of herbal & decaffeinated teas & coffee, to suit every taste. This morning, we have jelly doughnuts & cinnamon crullers. Hey, Neil! Don't go poking your finger in, to see what kind of jelly it is! Take your chances w/ the rest of us. Here, I'll cut one in half & split it w/ you. OK? Enjoy!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 08:14 AM

Bron, I am NOT watching football, and I'm more than willing to listen to you sing 'Creeping Jane,' providing you tell me what 'Iechyd dda' means!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Llanfair
Date: 08 Aug 99 - 05:03 AM

Isn't it bloody typical!!!!!! The first time I get up the nerve to sing, and it's the start of the bloody football season!!!!!! Flamin' Norah!!!!!!!!!! Bron.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 08:32 PM

Yum!!! Mind if I sit down for a few minutes, Lonesome? That sounds great!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Angus McSweeney
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 08:31 PM

Foster's sounds great to me! I'm good ol' USA, but I consider our American brews (like Budweiser)in the same vein as the old Monty Python folk. Question: Why is american beer like making love in a canoe? Answer: Because it's **cking close to water! Foster's will be just fine.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 08:25 PM

OK...on a lighter note :)

Since the football game tonight is being broadcast live from Sydney Australia ,tonight is Shrimp on the Barbee Night at the MT, and along with that delicious barbecued prawn we are offering a delicious mango chutney sauce for dipping, and Ice-cold Foster's on tap. Or ice-cold Budweiser for all of you Oz phoaks looking for an exotic American brew. There will be open mic tonight at Half-time and after the game. Be here Mates!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 07:26 PM

Tonight it's two for one on all your drink requests whenever the Broncos score. And stand away from the muzzle of the cannon, cause I'll be firing it to celebrate each touchdown. There's no shot in it, but the muzzle blast from the powder will give you double-vision and ringing of the ears.

And it was like Cassady to go in search of Death in the same way he came at life, with a manic grin and a heart full of curiosity, leaving no room for fear- tripping across weathered black ties oozing tar in the Mexican sun, kicking sparks from loose gravel, flipping a sledge hammer into the air to count three and catch it by the handle, his powerful frame drained by the drugs and the sleepless nights, fooling himself that his indomitable will and life/spirit could face up to Death and dog her down, calling, daring Death to come at him and wrestle in the desert, in the magnificent Ratlands where the contrasts were clear - good/evil life/death light/shadow energy/inertia. And only Cassady and Death were party to that last episode, and he was found like Thor fallen with his hammer beside him, with his big fists doubled up and bloodied, and a grin clenched in his face, and with his clouded eyes staring straight up into a sky as blue as the edge of eternity.

I have a little liquid left in this bottle of French Absinthe, Neil, and if you want it, this wormwood's for you, pal.

LEJ

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Llanfair
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 07:26 PM

Hiya, all, I've been having a few identity problems, but I'm here now. A pint of Murphy,s and a bag of crisps, please, and I feel like singing tonight, how about "Creeping Jane" for starters? Hwyl, Bron, oh, and Iechyd dda. (translate THAT)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 06:31 PM

I'm back behind the bar again, helping myself ...

Saturday night, saturday night/ We'll all get together on Saturday night ...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: bbc
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 05:55 PM

Glad you'll liked the croissants! I've been out for a bit w/ my best girlfriend. Had to catch up. Has Lonesome been taking good care of you? Neil, Neil, I'm not sure I should get you a second, after how that 1st one did cause you to run on! Are you *sure* you're not better off w/ the tomato juice? I could try lime wedges on the side, for variety. Guinness & a straw for Jeri-girl. I'm afraid it BYO-vitamins, here. Sorry. Look for the new photo page soon! kat, we've got plenty of croissant & these aren't a bit fattening. Have the almond *and* the chocolate. They'll do you good! OK, up-to-date! Who can I get something for?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 04:15 PM

Thanks, bbc, but I DO have a penchant for almond croissants! Last summer, I was really looking forward to going to the Au Bain Pan at the mall in Waterford, CT, when visitng my daughter. Their almond croissants were really good. I was devastated to learn they were no longer in existence. Now, the no carb lifestyle doesn't allow them, BUT there's always cyberfood!!! So let me at 'em, I don't care if it's later in the day! I want my croissant, THEN I'll switch to chocolate!

Neil....keep that stream of consciousness gowing and you'll be bucking Kesey over at his publishers! But, I am inclined to think I'll be the same as Jeri, never quite ready, always one more FUN thing to do!

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Tavern - Round 5
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Aug 99 - 03:55 PM

Oh, yes, annap, and forgot another reason why I regret missing your gatherings. (check out recent LYR ADD). Happy summer!
yours, Peter T.