BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?

Subject: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:05 PM

Reichstag fire

(Feb. 27, 1933) Burning of the German parliament building (Reichstag) in Berlin. Allegedly set by a Dutch communist, the fire was used by Adolf Hitler to turn public opinion against his opponents, especially the communists. He enacted a decree suspending constitutional protection of personal rights, which effectively began the Nazi Party dictatorship. The fire was widely believed to have been set by the Nazis themselves, while others have argued there was no proof of Nazi complicity; it remains the subject of debate and research
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Eric Cantor blames Democrats for 'fanning flames' on threats

By JAKE SHERMAN & PATRICK O'CONNOR | 3/25/10 12:56 PM EDT

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor blamed top Democrats for "fanning the flames" regarding threats to members of Congress — and says his office in Richmond was shot at earlier this week.

Cantor, a Virginia Republican, said the heads of the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee are using allegations of harassment and threats to Democrats nationwide for political purposes.

Cantor said he doesn't release information about the incidents of threats against himself to the media because it would only ratchet up violence. But he did say a bullet shot through the window in his campaign office in Richmond on Monday evening, and he has received threats because he is Jewish.

"[I] have deep concerns that some, DCCC Chairman Chris Van Hollen and DNC Chairman Tim Kaine in particular, are dangerously fanning the flames by suggesting that these incidents be used as a political weapon," Cantor said.

Democrats and Republicans today moved to distance themselves from the violence. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said "we all reject" any derisive language used by protestors Sunday in the lead up to the health care vote. The top House Democrat said protesters and those engaging in violence and threats should not be lumped together.

Meanwhile, House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said that the "violence and the threats are unacceptable." Tea party organizers across the country have also condemned the threats and vandalism.

Republicans and Democrats have joint statement ready that would condemn the violence and threats directed at members, a Democratic aide said.

DNC Spokesman Brad Woodhouse said their response has been "entirely appropriate."

"Instead of trying to distract from the issue with more attacks, we would ask Mr. Cantor and other Republicans to join Chairman Kaine in working to ratchet down the rhetoric, condemn deplorable behavior and disagree on these issues without being disagreeable," Woodhouse wrote in an e-mailed response.

Cantor, the highest ranking Jew in Congress, said that security threats are not a partisan issue and they should be handled by law enforcement officials.

"I'm not naïve enough to think that letters, statements or press releases will prevent anyone disturbed enough to commit violence from acting," Cantor said. "But I do know that such letters statements and press releases can very easily fan the flames by ratcheting up the rhetoric, some would only inflame these situations to dangerous levels. Enough is enough it has to stop."

Another Republican, Jean Schmidt of Ohio, received a profanity laced voice mail this week in which the caller wished that the congresswoman had broken her back in a recent accident.

Boehner said rancorous debate on the floor of the House has been present over the past several months from both political parties. He said "threats and violence should not be part of a political debate" and denied seeing his members holding "Kill the Bill" signs on a balcony outside the Capitol — Democrats have said this ginned up anger.

He also dismissed calling Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio) a "dead man," saying he meant it in a political sense. Few noticed the quote before Driehaus himself brought it up, Boehner said.

When asked if Democratic members should be concerned about their safety — as House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Wednesday — Boehner didn't disagree.

"They're in the middle of this and I have no reason to discount what they said," he said.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35021.html#ixzz0jDj4gcN6

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amos
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:08 PM

Oh, my, the sins do cry aloude in accusation. False slander? Swyfteboating? Spreading false information? Oh, shame!! Whereever would the kindly conscientious Democrats learn such scurrilous skills? I cannot imagine...



A

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:10 PM

Eric Cantor can twist the 10 Commandments to sound like Satan's ideas....

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:27 PM

As can Obama.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:32 PM

I'm really ashamed that Eric Cantor is my congressman. I didn't vote for him, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:32 PM

Just typical one of our local Nazi's would post something like this....good job Bruce...maybe you should go out and burn some crosses while you're at it.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:43 PM

Amerigin,

It is the Democrats who are burning crosses.


I see that NO ONE can contradict the facts, and you all attack either the Congressman or the poster instead of addressing the facts.

I think that my point is proven, and see no reasion to bother listening to anything that some here have posted. Too bad- on occasiuon, I have learned from them, but now I know what they are.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:46 PM

Yeah? who are the ones making death threats against members of congress, calling them filthy racially motivated names? Your republicans.

Go don your white hood and march for "pride".

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:47 PM

OfA fundraises off threats

The Democrats continue to take political advantage of reports of Republican vandalism and threats, with the head of the Obama campaign organization, Mitch Stewart, referring to the incident at Tom Perriello's brother's house in a fundraising appeal.

He writes:

A conservative blogger posted the home address of Congressman Tom Perriello, urging tea partiers to "drop by." Other members have had death threats. Democratic offices have been vandalized.

Please chip in $5 or more to defend health reform -- and those in Congress who fought to make it possible.

Full email after the jump.

Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:10:42 -0400

From:

[e-mail]

Subject: Urgent -- we need to act

Friend --

We knew that power concedes nothing. So did President Obama. So did the members of Congress who courageously voted for reform, knowing that the special interests and the extreme right wing would retaliate swiftly.

The attacks are fierce. Deceptive ads are hitting the airwaves in swing districts. GOP lawmakers are pushing to repeal reform -- and preventing the Senate from performing basic functions. A few Republican attorneys general have launched a baseless attack to overturn the legislation. But that's not even the worst of it.

A conservative blogger posted the home address of Congressman Tom Perriello, urging tea partiers to "drop by." Other members have had death threats. Democratic offices have been vandalized.

Please chip in $5 or more to defend health reform -- and those in Congress who fought to make it possible.Showing support for reform and those who fought for it is our number one priority right now. We're going all-out, organizing grassroots events around the country, running supportive ads on the air, and making sure that every American knows the truth about the historic legislation that representatives voted into law.

Members of Congress know that reform would not have passed without all of your incredible work. But we also know that it would not have passed without their courage.

Together, along with President Obama, we beat the insurance companies and brought affordable coverage to 32 million without it, reduced costs for families and small businesses, and created the toughest patient protections in history.

A few weeks ago, we made a simple promise to these representatives: You fight for health reform, we'll fight for you. It's time to hold up our end of the deal.

Please donate $5 or more:https://donate.barackobama.com/DefendThanks,

Mitch

Mitch Stewart

Director

Organizing for America

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:50 PM

I remember the GOP of Nixon's day trying to claim that Democrats burgled their own headquarters at the Watergate to drum up sympathy.

Same old lies. Sumbitches will try to spin anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:50 PM

Amerigin,

"Yeah? who are the ones making death threats against members of congress, calling them filthy racially motivated names? Your republicans."


1. Death threats? like the ones against Bush? Like the ones against anyone who opposed Obama?

2. The comments that have been criticised by BOTH sides have NOT been shown to be said by Republicans OR Democrats: BOTH sides have said they were "beyond the pale", and it is being investigated. Only one of Obama's "Black Shirts" would place blame when they did not have any evidence to support it.

Heil Amerigin!

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:57 PM

Who made death threats against Bush? Or to anyone opposed to Obama?

At least lefties don't go around posting bullshit other people wrote because we are too ignorant and lazy to have an original thought in their head.

BTW I am not an Obama supporter, I am just sick of idiots like yourself going around screaming fascism, or socialism, when you have no clue what those words mean. You use them interchangeably. There again you make assumptions.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:24 PM

"Who made death threats against Bush? Or to anyone opposed to Obama?"

You missed the 10,000+ pictures I showed Bobert when he claimed the same?




"At least lefties don't go around posting bullshit other people wrote because we are too ignorant and lazy to have an original thought in their head."

BULLSHIT! I will not waste the bandwidth to show all the posts that Amos cut and pasted against Bush.





"BTW I am not an Obama supporter, I am just sick of idiots like yourself going around screaming fascism, or socialism, when you have no clue what those words mean. You use them interchangeably. There again you make assumptions. "


I have only pointed out that the National Socialists used the same type of "Blame the enemy to take power" that Obama is presently doing.

They also built good roads, which we modeled our interstate system on. But YOU have to attack the person, instead of debating the facts- that makes YOU the fascist, not me.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:30 PM

Don't feed the troll, folks.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: DougR
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 05:46 PM

Kat: I don't think beardedbruce is a troll, he merely has an opinion that differs from yours and other contributors to this thread.

Amergin: I assume you have PROOF that Republicans are responsible for all of the things you accuse them of. I think rather than wasting time posting your information on the Mudcat, you would do a far better service to our country by sharing your information with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The number is in the phone book (look under Federal).

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 06:26 PM

The mindless filibustering by Republicans on healthcare shows that they have in fact no respect for democracy. Those who do (oddly called democrats) have only one choice.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 06:31 PM

Republican leaders have been encouraging and inciting violence from their supporters for the last few years. There is more than ample video and other evidence to prove this. Blaming the Democrats for what the Republicans have been doing consistently for years is pretty dishonest. But that's hardly anything new.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 06:56 PM

Sup with the devil you need a long spoon. Tea spoons maybe tend to be a bit too short.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:15 PM

I think Bruce, is right is accusing Cantor of shooting his own office.

Who else would do it?

Some anti-NRA liberal?


Doug the Republicans are on public recorded record egging the Teabaggers and militia men on. No one is accusing those cowardly weasels in suits of doing violence themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:20 PM

Eric Canter, who BTW is my representative, is a pathological liar, a creep and an arrogant jerk... He would sell his own mother to win an election...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: olddude
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:41 PM

This place can attract shit faster than my work boots ...

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: kendall
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:51 PM

And I would remind you all that personal attacks are not permitted!

If you can't make your point without name calling you don't have much of a point.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: olddude
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:59 PM

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    Ingredients
                  1 cup butter, melted
                  1 cup white sugar
                  4 eggs
                  1 (15 ounce) can cream-style corn
                  1/2 (4 ounce) can chopped green chile peppers, drained
                  1/2 cup shredded Monterey Jack cheese
                  1/2 cup shredded Cheddar cheese
                  1 cup all-purpose flour
                  1 cup yellow cornmeal
                  4 teaspoons baking powder
                  1/4 teaspoon salt

    Directions
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       3) In a separate bowl, stir together flour, cornmeal, baking powder and salt. Add flour mixture to corn mixture; stir until smooth. Pour batter into prepared pan.
       4) Bake in preheated oven for 1 hour, until a toothpick inserted into center of the pan comes out clean.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amos
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 08:12 PM

The use of fear tactics to assume power was demonstrated by RUmsfield, by W, by Rove to several orders of magnitude more effect than anything OPbama has done. The comparison is ridiculous on the face of it, Bruce. Do I need to remind you about the axis of evil, the WMD, the near-term nuclear capability of Iraq, the missiles able to reach our shores--all complete bushwah? C'mon. His den of liars was thicker than slime mold on the corpse of due process.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 09:10 PM

Amos,

Obama has been doing all the rest that Bush did, so why not?


You seem to ignore the prohibited missles found in Iraq, the chemical weapons ( hundreds of artillary shells) , and the active PROGRAM of WMD development that was found. I know you want to believe you can rewrite what happened, but Obama has not taken over EVERYTHING yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:01 AM

Bruce,

That is a fantasy. Besides, Bush and Cheney and Rice were talking about mushroom clouds, not 20 year old artillery shells. The fear mongering was there. I saw it on "Meet the Press" with my own eyes.


On the other hand, saying that the Democrats were attacking themselves as the NAZIs started that fire is beyond stupid.

Did Congressman Lewis spit on himself?
Did Barney Frank call himself "Faggot?"

I don't think so.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Songbob
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:08 AM

The police have concluded that the shot that hit "Cantor's office" was actually fired into the air, and struck the window of a meeting room OCCASIONALLY used by Cantor's staff (their offices are elsewhere in the building) while on its downward path, breaking the window but not even penetrating the window-blinds. The shot seems to have been random, and bears as much relationship to an "attack" as the stray shot that bounced off Lou Dobbs' house last year (his rural home was hit by a spent shell during hunting season).

And Cantor used this to blame Democrats of exaggerating the threats!

Republicans have raised the art of "playing the ref" to a high art, which is why they are called Right-Whingers. They have inflamed the passions of the "tea party" (which itself is a wholly-owned subsidiary of AHIP and the GOP -- look up the history of the funding of the early "town meeting" protests if you don't believe me) and loosed the dogs of racism, fear, and abject stupidity on the public, and refuse to take responsibility for the same.

Death panels
Socialism
Tyranny
Baby-killers
And more

... are the names and claims they made, rhetoric so overblown and extreme that thinking people realize they are simply lying. But those who choose not to think for themselves take those claims as Gospel and act on them.

The Tea Klux Klan has now claimed that the Congressmen they spat on and shouted epithets at brought it on themselves by walking through the crowd! You can't make up things like this!

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:26 AM

So, please remember to carry on a peaceful discussion. I deleted the worst of the personal attacks.
By the way, what's that Internet rule? - Something like: if you resort to making reference to Nazis, you lose the debate. If that's the case, this debate was lost by the thread title.
Bruce, please try to remember that thread titles are supposed to describe the contents of the thread, not make a political statement.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 03:15 AM

The pattern with the Republicans has been to identify a dire threat, describe a way to neutralize the threat, and then give the order to do it. All using plausible deniability. Take Sarah Palin, for instance. She identified the threat by describing the Democrats who were trying to pass the health care reform bill as people who were out to kill your grandma and who were going to set up "death panels" who would issue death orders for anyone they deemed no longer productive. She described the method by superimposing rifle cross hairs over a map showing the locations of the people who supported the bill, and she gave the order when she said, "don't retreat, instead, reload". And soon after that, the people on her hit list started getting death threats. That's incitement.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 03:43 AM

STOP!!!

I seriously think, after either listening to, or watching the 'news' media, that the desired effect is beginning to take hold! I listened to Rush, and Hannity on the radio,...then watched ABC, and MSNBC, then listened to NPR's 'interview' about these various charges and topics.

I wanted to see how they were being reported, and what was being said, about each other, and I was quite amazed. Personally I'm beginning NOT to believe EITHER SIDE!!!...and that a lot of this is contrived propaganda to CREATE hostilities amongst us all. I'm beginning to see more clearly, what I have suspected for some time..and that is, that the agenda of yet another 'behind the scenes' player(players), is fanning the fires, and distorting the facts, yes and possibly even create attacks on themselves, to blame the other, for the purpose of instigating civil unrest......

Yes, there were charges made, from the Dems...but hardly any evidence to back up the charges..HOWEVER, some of their criticism of the Repubs, were NOT ALL WRONG EITHER!!

I firmly believe that the rhetoric on BOTH sides has been a bit inflammatory, to further DIVIDE us, than it is accurately reporting FACTS!

Before you all begin strangling each other, and hating each other, try watching and listening to how both sides are reporting, and exaggerating, and even spinning the stories! Believe none of it...just listen to the divisiveness, and watch the results...and DON'T get dragged into it, and fooled AGAIN!

Make music......not arguments to make your brothers and sisters your 'enemy'

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 03:56 AM

The evidence is out there in video and print form, GfS. We can see for ourselves the way the Republicans and their media mouthpieces have been inciting violence. It's right there out in the open for everyone to see. As are the results, which are being investigated by the FBI.

I have been very aware of what they have been doing, not because the news media told me about it during the last few days, but because I have been observing it myself for the last two or three years. You can't brainwash me in to believing that what I have been observing for the last two or three years never happened just because you say it didn't. That's just not going to work.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 04:06 AM

Yes, Carol, it is being INVESTIGATED by the FBI, but the investigation is not complete. Right now a lot of this stuff is ONLY allegations, and some of it is showing No truth, and some is has NOT been determined WHO ACTUALLY DID what is being charged....That is ALSO being reported...so let's not jump to emotional driven conclusions!

There are CLEARLY, VERY CLEARLY, LIES being told and believed on both sides. Let not your political inclinations blind your eyes to this....besides, "A wise man(woman) hears ALL, before he(she) speaks", ..and we have NOT HEARD ENOUGH, with PROOF, as to who and what is being done, by whom!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 04:14 AM

Oh, I am sure the Americans of African descent Congresspeople coordinated being spit on and having racial slurs yelled at them, as well as Barney Franks made a deal to be called faggot by some yelling, seeming maniac. Yup...going back to the incitement over the years, I am sure a couple of pro-choice, abortion-providers who were gunned down in their home and church planned all of that, too. Might as well have strapped suicide bombs to them and let them go out being martyrs. Good grief, logic is scarce around these parts.

BTW, as a registered Democrat, I have requested a name change to this thread. So far, no go. I feel it is a personal attack on those of us who support President Obama, intimating we are "nazis" and I think it should be modified. I also abhor the fact it will probably attract bnp thugs.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 04:23 AM

Like I said, GfS, the incitement is all right there out in the open for everyone to see.

The Capitol Hill police consider the threats to be legitimate, and they have beefed up security. Members of Congress who have been receiving threats have been provided with added protection. The authorities are taking these threats very seriously. It's not just Democrats crying wolf.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 04:30 AM

With all the video recordings of the events, no one has caught anyone calling Frank a fagot, nor has anyone caught people spitting on each other,..but their was video of a man cupping his mouth to be heard, and that was 'reported' as he was spitting.....but the video offers no proof of that.

Please don't be a naive dupe. Don't believe ANYTHING reported, that cannot be proved, nor believe ANY politicians claims of threats, though I'm sure they get them, unless they are proved!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 06:54 AM

GfS... if they had closeup video of the incidents and interviewed the perps bragging about it, you would claim it was staged. These things ARE happening.....and the incidents from the right outnumber anything from the left both in number and in degree.

(no, bb... you cannot find a similar Dem example for every stupid Rep breach of decency....even though, as I have noted for years, that's your standard argument form)

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 11:06 AM

From: olddude
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:41 PM

This place can attract shit faster than my work boots ...



Geez olddude, where do you work?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 11:23 AM

"Bruce, please try to remember that thread titles are supposed to describe the contents of the thread, not make a political statement.
-Joe- "

"BTW, as a registered Democrat, I have requested a name change to this thread. So far, no go. I feel it is a personal attack on those of us who support President Obama, intimating we are "nazis" and I think it should be modified. I also abhor the fact it will probably attract bnp thugs.

kat "


BS: KKK/Tea Party Day


Free speech is a wonderful thing, as long as you don't let those you disagree with have it...

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: olddude
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:02 PM

Neil
LOL, trying to clean up my yard from Weiner dogs .. LOL and I wasn't referring to anyone, just the storm these topics always bring ... anyway here is my take on this topic for sure:

Sunny Side Of Life
        

There's a dark and a troubled side of life
There's a bright and a sunny side, too
Though we meet with the darkness and strife
The sunny side we also may view.

   Keep on the sunny side always on the sunny side
   Keep on the sunny side of life
   It will help us every day it will brighten all the way
   If we keep on the sunny side of life.

The storm and its fury broke today
Brushing hopes that we've cherished so dear
Cloud and storm will in time pass away
The sun again will shine bright and clear.

Let us breathe with a song of hope each day
Though the moments be cloudy or fair
Let us trust in our Saviour away
He keepeth everyone in his care.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:20 PM

The title of this thread is an excellent example of the kind of underhanded rhetoric that marks the very worst of poltiical yammer, and is in fact thinly disguised hate-speech with no redeeming social value. It is designed not to encourage communication, but to crush it under a blanket of over-associative fear and repulsion. Oh, and it is also a low-class mud-brained insult.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:31 PM

Amos,

Your lack of comment when others post similar threads that you agreed with gives you no room to comment now.


I had to aim my insults at the people posting- so if it is low class, that is just a reflection upon you.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 12:38 PM

They have plenty of physical evidence of the things that have been done, GfS. There's a brick with a note stuck to it, a cut gas line, and a lot of recorded phone messages.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 01:08 PM

Gee, and Amos and Bruce get along so well together when they see each other in person.....

(come to think about it, I was sitting between them, which may have helped to keep the peace)

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:21 PM

Joe,

Amos and I are friends- we just don't agree with each other on political things. I endeavor to treat him here in the threads just as he treats me. - The golden rule applied.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:26 PM

I know, Bruce - but you guys make me laugh....other people take your squabbling so seriously.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:36 PM

Bruce:

Your effort to blame me for your poor taste is understandable, but it will not shift responsibility. In all fairness we should both strive to be more eloquent and articulate, and less histrionic, in our postings. But the idea that you are bitching in order to stoop to my level is just more of the same old rhetorical dishwater.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:37 PM

I am not responsible for the errors of other people-


I have enough of my own to deal with.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:40 PM

Amos,

I accept responsibility for my postings: When will you accept it for yours?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 02:47 PM

Thanks for the good news, Bruce. Let me point out that I have never blamed my postings on you, while you have repeatedly insisted you were just imitating my example in your own decisions, I know that is not your basic nature, and it always rang very false whenever you used it as an excuse.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Democrat's Reichstag fire?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 05:38 PM

Keep your fingers crossed, with all this hysteria and incitement.

A sobering statistic: every President since Franklin Roosevelt has faced at least one assassination attempt, apart from Eisenhower.