Art Thieme on Youtube

Subject: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 08:31 PM

I just found this and it is wonderful ... maybe someone posted it before I don't know but i just saw it ... absolutely wonderful

hobo song

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: maeve
Date: 26 Mar 10 - 09:54 PM

Thanks for linking to Art's song, Dan. He is one of the people I'd love to meet. Back before Christmas I'd been listening to lots of his music; I've missed hearing Art's singing, and I'm happy to have seen the array of photos used in the slideshow "video".

maeve

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Artful Codger
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 01:09 AM

I was inspired by the just-revived thread "Songs about art?" (synchronicity?) to jot down this little ditty:


He takes a guitar into hand
And strums a chord or three,
Then launches in with his gravelly voice
And croons a cowboy rondelee.
He grins with a smile that charms your heart
And it's wider than the Missouri
And I'll bet in his time he's sung more songs
Than even Nana Mouskouri!

He's our own Art Thieme,
And the truth must be confessed:
I suspect that there's a family tie
Between him and Brian Blessed.


(Okay, it needs a little work.) ;-}

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 01:38 AM

That is GRAND, ARTfulCodger!

Thanks, Dan, for the link.

maeve, you have prompted my memory...I'll those done this weekend.:-)

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: maeve
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 07:33 AM

Artful Codger- Nice one!

maeve

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 08:10 AM

0:55 - I want that shirt!

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 10:47 AM

Art is one of my music hero's

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 11:22 AM

wonderful!

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Art Thieme
Date: 27 Mar 10 - 02:22 PM

Old Dude, and all,
Thanks a bunch. It is appreciated. I've always loved that song---both Buell Kazee's old 78-rpm record of it -- with a different tune--or Hank Snow's version of it. I removed some racist aspects of the words that I did not wish to perpetuate.

Utah Phillips did it as a recitation more often than not from what I recall.

Art

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 28 Mar 10 - 09:52 PM

And here is
one of my favorites

Art Thieme Billy Venero

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 28 Mar 10 - 10:05 PM

Art Thieme - Santa Fe Trail

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Mar 10 - 10:08 PM

Thanks for posting these, Dan. It's always refreshing to hear them.

And hi, Art!

Jerry

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: DADGBE
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 12:39 AM

Keep up the good work, Art. Y'all sure sounded great. 'Course, anybody who was a friend of Utah Phillips can't be of much account hisself, But, keep on trying. Mebee in time you'll live it down.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 01:25 AM

Damn, that's good stuff!
Attaboy Art, and thanks Olddude.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 09:16 AM

And the State of ILL-I - Nois ....
Love it

State of ILLINOIS

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 09:35 AM

And the great Don Lang song
Here's to You Rounders

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 10:31 AM

Great stuff, Art!

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Art Thieme
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 11:23 AM

You people be too much, really! It's a small pond in which we swim, and thanks to you all for making it possible for me to continue to make a few waves on the surface of these modern waters.

Art

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 11:23 AM

Sheesh. I spent an hour or two of my *valuable* time listening to the videos of Art and Jerry. Marvelous stuff, and poignant. How swiftly time passes!

What kept me mesmerized was not only the quality of their voices but the vulnerability and tenderness that comes through. And Art's grin.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 11:32 AM

And you Art don't realize how much you have helped other musicians .. I couldn't play any longer, I thought anyway.. It was Bruce, and so many other catters including yourself playing through the pain that got me started again ... And the songs ... so many lost in time if you had not recorded them ... and your picking ... making me want to again pick the darn thing again and not feeling the string but picking and picking to get it back somehow ... You made a heck of a difference for a lot of people and your music needs to be heard by the young ...

Dan

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 12:41 PM

This is a video of ART playing "Shanty Boys"

Art Thieme - Shanty Boys

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 04:31 PM

Folks Shanty Boy is actually Art performing, it is not a slide show but an actual performance

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST,jeff
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 05:22 PM

Cut my teeth in Chicago from '75 to '82 and remember that shirt REAL well(0:55). Art was/is the punniest man alive. While I've no love lost for plenty playing around town in those days Art was gracious, self-effacing, encouraging and ALWAYS genuinely interested. Heck of a song thief, too...I learned ALOT from being around him. ;-)

At a musical gathering once Art was idly picking at some plaster in the hallway of the building as we were climbing the stairs to the apartment. Tom Dundee said, "Art, you better stop that there might be asbestos in it."

Art not missing a beat, "Well, Tom I'm doing as best as I can."

All together now: GROAN!

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Art Thieme
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 07:30 PM

Dan,

I appreciate your putting "The Shanty Boy On The Big Eau Clair" up on You Tube; -- from that song-swap I did with Jerry R. --- W. N. Allan is said to have written it around 1872. Several of his compositions contained, at least, a line or two that, when you hear 'em, takes you aback a bit. At least, you scratch your head at his imagery. At worst, you just laugh out loud. In this song, for me, it is the line featuring the image of the hop lice dancing on the handsome shanty-boy's grave!

These ballads from the lumber camps of the Northern USA rival the ballads of the Great Lakes (that Lee Murdock sings so well these days) and also the cowboy gems like "Billy Vanero" and "Dobie Bill" "Blue Mountain" Del Bray's "Cowboy's Barbara Allen" -- even "The Pokegama Bear" that I learned from folklorist John Berquist.

Yep, I'm really glad to have these songs up there.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 07:46 PM

Anything else you want my friend just PM me and I will put it up and if we have no video I will do a slide show ...

always
Dan

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 08:02 PM

Listen to Art's guitar work on this one

Big Combine

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST,Paul Goelz
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 05:46 AM

Hi All,

An old No Exit fan here. Just wanted you to know that I have put a couple videos of Art up on YouTube. These are from the No Exit when it was at the Corner of Lunt and Glenwood, in 1982. Sure brings back memories.... the dim lighting, the ambient sounds, and most of all.... Art and his puns and musicianship.

Enjoy.

Paul Goelz

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 09:17 AM

Gotta see this video
Art at the no exit cafe

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 09:18 AM

medely

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 09:20 AM

Molly and tenderfoot
Molly

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 09:36 AM

Thanks Paul, I finally got to see Art play his 9 string guitar ..
Priceless

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST,Paul Goelz
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 01:05 PM

Molly and "tenderfoot"??? Have I had it wrong in my mind all these years?? I don't think so......

I think that is all I have of Art but I have a LOT more from the No Exit (the one at the NE corner of Lunt and Glenwood) from the same 1982-ish era. I'm in the early stages of digitizing it all and putting choice bits up on YouTube. Found a couple tunes by Jim Brewer that will go up soon.

Home video has come a long way since 1982, eh? Back then, it was a separate camera and recorder.

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: gnu
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 01:42 PM

My post went missing....

Great Stuff!

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 02:30 PM

LOL yea I can't type today Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 02:31 PM

got any from Jerry Rasmussen Paul ?

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: pgoelz
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 03:04 PM

No, I'm afraid I don't have any of Jerry. I know the name but I don't think I ever ran across him.

The ones that I remember off the top of my head that I DO have video of in addition to Art are Brian Gill and Peggy Compton, Ann and Jan Hills-Burda, Harry Waller, Jim Brewer, Stu Halliday, Byron Roche and Paul Breidenbach, Laurie Noell and Trish Alexander, Douglas Udell and a bunch more that I can't remember at present (I'm not in front of my home PC). I thought I had one of Dodi Kallick but I haven't found it yet. Most of my tapes are roughly catalogued but there are some omissions and I won't know for sure until I actually capture them and can examine what I have in better detail.

The big pain here is that these need so much processing (dark video, noisy, shifted black level, etc.) that it takes about 15X real time to process. IOW, 15 minutes of processing per minute of playing time. I can do maybe one per evening ;)

I also have lots from Adler House in Libertyvill as well as the Red Clay Ramblers at Troubles.

It has been a bittersweet experience starting to pour through these. So many people I have lost track of and who may never know how they touched my life. But I'm glad I did the geeky thing (at the time, at least) and took my cumbersome camera and recorder to places like the Exit in its heyday so those experiences can live on.

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 03:42 PM

and an excellent job you did Paul, thank you for sharing, these are treasures for sure

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 07:29 PM

Never heard Billy Vanero done better.

One of my fondest memories is of the Hartford folk festival back in the 70's. Art and I did a comedy workshop. What fun.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 09:35 PM

Kendall,
That was a magical festival for me also. Good times and memories -- for certain sure. I'n still using some of those lines I stole from you! What was thgat one? A fellow in Idaho wants to buy a hundred pounds of potatoes at a roadside vender's stand. The seller's responce: "I won't cut one in half for anyone!" --- Just one of many...

Paul, Old Dude, and all:
These videos are like walking through a time warp. If I'd known we'd be having this hightech stuff here in the future, I might've done a tighter show and learned my songs better. It's pretty ragged; I do hope some of it is "right" too.

Thanks a lot! I do hope a couple of my songs might speak to mod folks.

Art

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 09:45 PM

Sorry for the typos! I must be tired.

With only dial-up here, I haven't been able to see these yet. (We've been waiting for some phone calls today.) Maybe it'll download faster late at night?? I'll try letting it come onto my computer while I sleep tonight.

Art

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST,pgoelz
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 06:18 AM

Art Art Art..... your shows were ALWAYS "right". And never ragged that I remember. In fact, they flowed beautifully. I tried to record you (audio only) once with the idea of putting it together into a shorter sampling and discovered that I couldn't without destroying it. One tune flowed into another or into a related story or a joke and it just didn't make sense when edited.

If you haven't noticed yet, there's one of Jim Brewer up now. So I have Wednesday and Thursday nights covered.....

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST,pgoelz
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 06:21 AM

OK, how the heck do you log on here? I registered yesterday and was logged but here at home, I don't see a way to log in. My username still says "guest".

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: maeve
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 07:09 AM

Paul- Look at the menu at the top right of this page. Click on "Log in" and you'll be able to type in your user name (pgoelz.) Then enter your password, click and you're all set.

Thanks for your posts with Art Thieme links. He's one of our treasures.

maeve

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 09:03 AM

Here is an original one Art wrote called "Julia Belle Swain Blues"
Julia Belle Swain Blues

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: pgoelz
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 09:28 AM

Interesting. Using IE at present but from home was using Firefox. Neither show a login menu item anywhere on the page. I have found you can get there by clicking MEMBERSHIP, and have logged out and in that way to test it.

You are very welcome re: the videos of Art. I am just glad I had the foresight to shoot them all those years ago.

I think that is all I have of Art but I have video of the 1981 No Exit Christmas Party rendering now for upload later today. Jim Brewer is already up, and a two tune medely by Jan and Anne will be up tonight.

There is lots more to come. Search YouTube for my username "paulgoelz" and you will find them all as they arrive.

Since some of the No Exit crowd seems to inhabit this board, I'll start another thread instead of hijacking Art's thread ;)

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Art Thieme
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 11:13 PM

I did let the ten minute medley download last night.

Paul, thanks again. It's interesting to see, nearly 30 years on, how I chose to deal with the strangely loud crowd at the Exit that night.

I started with the all-purpose Guabi Guabi -- fun picking and the rather nonsensical lyric--the way I sang it anyhow. The talkers slowed down trying to hear what the hell I was saying; also a few tossed in "pun-liners" got a few more people listening. This was another era of hard times, 1982, so next I put in the great song from the last depression, We've Got Franklin D. Roosevelt Back Again. It was perfect for those times just like it'd be appropriate for our depression now---and it's a good one to sing along with. I think next I went into the instrumental of the Russian song Meadowlands which grabs folks real well. (I worked that out from Frank Hamilton and Pete Seeger's collaboration LP album on Folkways called NONESUCH.

By then folks were with me, so I knew I could get people to pretty much really listen to and hear Tom Dundee's great song --- A Delicate Balance. --- I do hope all of Paul Goelz's tech work on this will allow you to hear Tom's wondrous poetic lyric.

It's good to see that, even though this medley was on the fly and off the top o' my head, it went down just about the way I wanted it to happen. I hardly ever planned sets. And most times I never did a song the same way twice. Maybe that's why I was always a solo! (And I never had to share the pay ;-)--- Good bottom line--actually and monetarily...

This is fun!!

Art

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Neighmond
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 03:28 AM

Is there a CD we can buy? Preferably from someone that gives the cat a cut?

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 06:17 AM

Ah, but all these years later I STILL remember that you didn't play Meadowlands right ;) Remember how you used to lift the capo to get that low note that was below the lowest note on the guitar? I always thought that was cool and was waiting for it...... notice how I went in on the fingerboard about the time that note was due. But alas......Oh, and if anyone is missing the sound of the espresso machine, it comes in right on cue at the very beginning of the Franklin Roosevelt part of the medely.

My technical wizardry can't do much for the sound, unfortunately. At least not yet. I'm hoping some day that there will be software available that can deal with excessive reverb but so far I'm not aware of any. I don't remember how I mic'd that but I think it was either a PZM on the floor or a cardioid on the table. I didn't like the idea of extra mics in the audience sight line, so whatever I did, it was well out of sight.... and too far away for really good sound. It doesn't help that it is in mono either.   

On the other hand, I think it unintentionally captures the "feeling" of the place. It was NOT quiet and the audience didn't always listen. There was a cover charge but it was minimal ($2 maybe?) and not everyone was there to hear Art. The ambient sound on those recordings takes me right back to the Exit.

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: maeve
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 07:25 AM

Paul- The menu I mentioned is at the top right and you'll see "Quick Links". Click on the little arrow to the right of those words and "Login" along with a dozen or more other menu possibilities will appear. Click on "Login" to select it then click "Go". I'm using Firefox and have used IE also. If your computer is allowing Mudcat's inoffensive membership cookies to stay you shouldn't have to do this every time you visit Mudcat.

Lots of enjoyable Art Thieme song links on the thread already. Thanks, Dan and Paul.

maeve

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: olddude
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 09:24 AM

This stuff is Priceless I think, If you had not recorded it Paul it would be lost and the rest of us would have never got to see and hear a master performer ... thank you again

Dan

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: pgoelz
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 10:17 AM

Ah, found the login you mentioned. Cleverly disguised, I might add ;)

You are very welcome re: my recordings. Interesting to think back upon those times. Truth be told, I did it because I was a techie geek who loved folk music and was fascinated by TV and video, not because I had any thoughts of preserving something. But looking back at it, I am so glad I did.... and even moreso because no one else was. I don't think I ever saw another video camera in the place. Consumer video wasn't exactly cutting edge by 1981, but it was not something anyone could do by running out to the corner store either. Consequently, there doesn't seem to be much folk video coverage of the late 70s into the mid 80s aside from actual TV shows. What I would have given back then for my current camcorder..... the size of a Coke can with vastly better resolution and low light capability.

My goal is to capture all (approx.) 80 hours that I have from the various folk venues and then figure out how to make as much of it available as I can.

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 09:58 AM

Speaking of classic Chicago area folk performers, Paul, Glenn Shubert finally sent me a cassette of seven of his songs. You didn't get any videos of him from Adler house, did you?

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: pgoelz
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 12:31 PM

Pretty sure I did get some of Glenn. I have a couple birthday concerts and he must be in there somewhere. I don't think I recorded any of the jams though. Prolly should have, ya know......

Paul

Subject: RE: Art Thieme on Youtube
From: pgoelz
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 02:20 PM

I just looked and I have either an open stage set or a concert of Glenn. Stay tuned. It may be a while but I'll get to it.

Paul