Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version

Subject: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 10:12 AM

It's not for me, honest! A friend was asking last night ...
Now, I've tried the DT an I can't get any results from the Forum search, even though I know the original song has been discussed, so it's back to silly questions once more. This friend claims to have heard a rude version, but can't remember any details. Any offers considered!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 12:05 PM

WHY?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: Lighter
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 12:43 PM

Are you sure it wasn't some other song just set to the melody of Greensleeves?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 12:57 PM

Why not indeed ........ I tried the http://wychwood.wikidot.com/songbook (for adult eyes only) but isn't there or the other songbook linked on the site.... but there are some other great takes on folk standards. I wonder if other reenactment groups may have it in their R&R time repertoire, or is it more likely to be found in Rugby supporters extensive song lists.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 01:34 PM

As MtheGM says, WHY?

Keep in mind that lyrics with rhythm and rhyme are hard to get out of the mind. I don't know how many beautiful melodies have been ruined for me because I have heard trite or nasty lyrics to them.

If an unsuspecting listener thinks your friend is going to sing a beautiful 'Greensleeves' and then your friend sings a stinky version, 'Greensleeves' may be tarnished for that listener forever.

Just tell your friend you couldn't find any lyrics like that.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 03:06 PM

The tune for Greensleeves---often titled "Which nobody can deny---has been used for a multitude of broadsides and political songs. It survives.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 03:11 PM

I vaguely remember a version that used Green Stamps in lieu of Greensleevs.
All I can remember of that is a bit of what I think, was the last verse.

He took her Green Stamps every one,
and cashed them all in with the pretty one.



Or words to that effect

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: Leadfingers
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 03:35 PM

I was deliberately steering clear of 'Green Stamps' though I could post it if any one is interested ! My version is from 'Reprints from
Sing Out'

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 05:27 PM

Well, in the Beggar's Opera, the lyrics to the tune are:

Since Laws were made for ev'ry Degree,
To curb Vice in others, as well as me,
I wonder we han't better Company,
      Upon Tyburn Tree!
But Gold from Law can take out the Sting;
And if rich Men like us were to swing,
'Twould thin the Land, such Numbers to string
      Upon Tyburn Tree!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Greensleeves - mucky version
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 05:32 PM

Why?? No idea! He asked me, and as I didn't know, I passed the question on to the experts. And no-one will be under any misapprehensions about what he'll be singing.

Subject: Lyr Add: THE BATTEL OF WORCESTER
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Apr 10 - 05:49 PM

Here's another one:


THE BATTEL OF WORCESTER.

All you that be true to the King and the State,
Come listen, and Ile tell you what happen'd of late,
In a large field near Worcesters gate,
Which no body can deny.

Brave Sir John Byron, true to the Crown,
VVith forces too few, 'tis very well known,
VVent thither, 'tis said, to keep the Town,
Which no body can deny.

But whether 'twas true, ye have learn'd to guess,
As for my own part I think no lesse,
To give you a taste of our Future successe,
Which no body can deny.

Thither came Fines with armes Complete,
The Town to take, and Byron defeat,
Provisions were made, but he staid not to eat,
Which no body can deny.

But as soon as he heard our great Guns play,
VVith a Flea in's ear, he ran quite away,
Like the lawfull begotten Son of Lord Say,
Which no body, &c.

Nay had the old Crop-ear'd his Father dar'd
To approach the walls, his design had bin marr'd,
For Byron would not have proved a VVard,
Which no body, &c.

Pox on him he keeps his Patent yet,
But I hope next Term he shall not sit,
'Twas but quam diu se bene Gesserit,
Which no body, &c.

But now behold, increased in force,
Hee comes again with ten Troups of Horse,
Oh bloudy-Man he had no remorse,
Which nobody, &c.

They marched up boldly, without any fear,
Little thinking Prince Rupert was come so near,
But alas poor souls it cost them dear,
Which no body, &c.

The Prince like a Gallant man of his trade,
Marcht out of the Town till this quarter was made,
Sir, the Enemies are near at hand it is said:
Which no body, &c.

Where, where are they? Prince Rupert cryes,
And looking about with fiery eyes,
Some thirty behind a hedge he spyes,
Which no body, &c.

This Forlorn-hope he no sooner saw,
But 4. or 5. more did towards him draw;
He asked, who's there? one answer'd him, haw,
Which nobody, &c.

The man you'll say was rudely bred;
The Prince shot a Bullet into his head,
His haw had been better spared than said,
Which nobody, &c.

Prince Maurice then, to second his Brother,
Discharg'd his Pistol and down fell another,
'Twere pitty but news were sent to his Mother,
Which nobody, &c.

Lord Digby slew one to his great fame,
So did Monsieur de Lisle and Sir Rich. Crane,
And another French man, with a harder name,
Which nobody, &c.

Prince Rupert to his own Force retired,
And bad them not shoot till their Doublets were fired,
His Courage and Conduct were both admired,
Which no body, &c.

He Charged but twice, yet made them shrink,
'Twere hard to get off now one would think,
Yet both can do it as easie as drink,
Which no body, &c.

Then amongst ye, quoth Sir Lewes Dives,
For a good Cause you know alwayes thrives,
His heart in his shoulders cost many mens lives,
Which no body, &c.

John Byron did as bravely fight;
To the Prince of Wales his great delight,
He came home in safety and was made a Knight,
Which no body, &c.

My Friend David Walter in Doublet white,
Without any Armes either rusty or bright,
Charg'd through them twice like a little spright,
Which no body, &c.

But oh Prince Maurice, where was he?
Where one of us would be loath to be,
Surrounded with Butchers three times three,
Which no body, &c.

These men of East-cheap little said,
But all their blows at his head they made,
As if they had been at work at their Trade,
Which no body, &c.

Then came a French-man fiery and keen,
And he broke the Ring and came in between,
Ere a man let a fart not a Butcher was seen,
Which no body, &c.

Brave Lord Wilmot, by whose hands did fall
Many a Rebell stout and tall,
Came to him without any Armes at all,
Which no body, &c.

Their Horses then close up they spur'd,
The wounds they gave were all with the Sword,
Their Pistols proved not worth a turd,
Which no body, &c.

But the Parliament having quite forgot
To Vote that Sandys should not be shot
By the hand of a Mounsier he went to the pot,
Which no body, &c.

Douglas a Scotch-man of great fame
Was slain that day for want of the same;
The Houses in this were much to blame,
Which no body, &c.

Of all their chief Commanders that day,
I hold it fit I should something say,
His name was Brown, and he ran away,
Which no body, &c.

If a few more o'em should shew such a freak,
Both Houses surely would quickly break,
And honester men would have leave to speak,
Which no body, &c.

They fly, they fly, Prince Rupert cry'd,
No sooner said, but away they hy'd;
The force of his Armes they durst not abide,
Which no body, &c.

Subject: Lyr Add: THE MOTHER COUNTRY (Benjamin Franklin?)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 04 Apr 10 - 11:11 AM

And from that noted singer-songwriter Benjamin Franklin, we have:

The Mother Country
(Benjamin Franklin?)

We have an old Mother that peevish is grown,
She snubs us like children that scarce walk alone;
She forgets we're grown up and have Sense of our own
    Which nobody can deny, deny,
    Which nobody can deny.

If we don't obey Orders, whatever the Case;
She frowns, and she chides, and she loses all Pati-
Ence, and sometimes she hits us a Slap in the Face,
    Which nobody etc.

Her Orders so odd are, we often suspect
That Age has impaired her sordid Intellect:
But still an old Mother should have due Respect,
    Which nobody etc.

Let's bear with her Humours as well as we can:
But why should we bear the Abuse of her Man?
When servants make Mischief, they earn the Rattan,
    Which nobody etc.

Know too, ye bad Neighbors, who aim to divide
The Sons from the Mother, that still she's our Pride;
And if ye attack her we're all of her side,
    Which nobody etc.

We'll join in her Lawsuits, to baffle all those,
Who, to get what she has, will be often her Foes:
For we know it must all be our own, when she goes,
    Which nobody can deny, deny,
    Which nobody can deny.


RG