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Great folk song lyrics

GUEST,JP 13 Apr 10 - 08:05 PM
GUEST,saulgoldie 13 Apr 10 - 02:28 PM
meself 13 Apr 10 - 01:05 PM
Fred McCormick 13 Apr 10 - 12:44 PM
GUEST,Jeff Parton 13 Apr 10 - 12:12 PM
GUEST,Wally Macnow 13 Apr 10 - 11:55 AM
GUEST,Wally Macnow 13 Apr 10 - 11:50 AM
PHJim 13 Apr 10 - 11:42 AM
Richie 12 Apr 10 - 11:20 PM
CET 12 Apr 10 - 08:26 PM
Joe_F 12 Apr 10 - 06:54 PM
GUEST,Bernie 12 Apr 10 - 06:51 PM
Commander Crabbe 12 Apr 10 - 06:28 PM
Tootler 12 Apr 10 - 04:54 PM
Stringsinger 12 Apr 10 - 02:26 PM
meself 12 Apr 10 - 08:36 AM
GUEST,Continuity Jones 12 Apr 10 - 04:43 AM
Commander Crabbe 11 Apr 10 - 08:14 PM
Bluegrassman 11 Apr 10 - 07:21 PM
Murray MacLeod 11 Apr 10 - 06:02 PM
autoharpbob 11 Apr 10 - 08:11 AM
PHJim 10 Apr 10 - 10:55 PM
MGM·Lion 10 Apr 10 - 10:39 PM
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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,JP
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 08:05 PM

Alistair Hulett, in my opinion one of our finest songwriters, sadly died a few months ago. A couple of samples:

And the old men lilt how the blood was spilt
On the banks of the river Boyne
Three hundred years of hate and fear
Clutched like a miser's coin

(Among Proddy Dogs and Papes)


The bailiff came wi' the writ and a'
And the gallant lads of the Forty Twa
They drove ye oot in the sleet and snaw
The Gaels of Caledonia
When yer house was burned and yer crops as well
Ye stood and wept in the blackened shell
And the winter moor was a living hell
For the Gaels of Caledonia

(Destitution Road, about the Highland Clearances)

Or if you want traditional, how's this for chilling:

They came to rob, they came to slay,
They made their sport, they went their way.

(Famous Flower of Serving Men)

or in a lighter vein

He gave her a wink and she rolled her eye
Says he to himself "I'll be there by and by."

(Lovely Joan)


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 02:28 PM

"And the ones who call the shots won't be among the dead and lame,
And on each end of the rifle, we're the same."

Christmas in the Trenches by John McCutcheon


"There's a pale drooping maiden who toils her life away
with a warm heart whose better days are o'er.
Though her voice would be merry, 'tis sighing all the day,
   Oh hard times come again no more.

Hard Times Come Again No More by Stephen Foster


Saul


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: meself
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 01:05 PM

Where are the eyes that looked so mild,
When my poor heart you first beguiled?
Why did you skedaddle from me and the child?
Johnny, I hardly knew ye.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 12:44 PM

A few verse from various Child ballads

I dreamed a dream last night, he said.
Such dreams are never good.
I dreamed by bower was full of swine,
And my bride bed full of blood.

Is Lady Margaret in her bower?
Or is she in her hall?
Or is she in her cold, cold coffin,
with her face turned to the wall.

Aft hae I played at the cairds and dice,
With my ain dear rantin' laddie.
But now I maun sit in my father's hall,
And sing bah to my bastard baby.

Willie stands at his hall door
and strokes his milk white steed.
When the rings they burst from off his fingers,
And his nose began to bleed.

Then up and spake the weather man.
I fear we'll all be be drowned.
For last night I saw the new moon
with the old moon in her arm.

Wha will lace mah shoes sae sma'
And wha will glove mah hand.
And wha will bind mah middle,
With a new made linen band.

Dinna ye mind, Lord Gregory,
When we were at the wine,
We changed the rings on our fingers,
And I can show thee thine.

Up then crew the red, red cock,
And up then crew the grey.
The eldest to the youngest said,
"It's time we were away"

The day does dawn, the cock does crow,
The chunnering worm does chide.
If we be missed out of our place,
A sore pain we must bide.

Woe be, woe be, my love he cries,
Woe be to your family.
Oh Don't you see my own heart's blood
Come trickling down my knee.

There was a lord in Edinburgh,
And a false, false lord was he.
he came a courting a rich king's daughter.
And married thought she.

For love comes in at my bedside,
And love lies down beside me.
Love so oppressed my tender breast.
And love will waste my body.

The stalk is withered dry my love.
So shall our hearts decay.
So be content to prove my love.
Till God calls you away.

Marvellous stuff!


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,Jeff Parton
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 12:12 PM

Re the Tom Paxton song about 9-11, it's

Firemen pounding up the stairs while we were running down

That "pounding" is such a powerful word, so evocative.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,Wally Macnow
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 11:55 AM

Also

I gave her the ring. She gave me the finger.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,Wally Macnow
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 11:50 AM

Perhaps my favorite

"I asked her for water, she give me gasoline." - Tommy Johnson "Cool Drink of Water Blues"


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: PHJim
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 11:42 AM

Maybe I should call her up
And even if she laughs at me
At least I would get to hear her voice.

Fred Eaglesmith


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Richie
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 11:20 PM

One of my favorite stanzas, that I used in one of my songs:

A cowslip ain't no kind of slip,
To slip upon a cow.
That's whay a catfish never answers,
To a cat's meow.

Richie


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: CET
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 08:26 PM

Well, Cdr Crabbe, it seems to me that Murray has it right, and that your response is a bit petulant. If you sing the song the way you punctuated it, you are singing gibberish. Kavangh's work deserves the respect of getting the punctuation (and the meaning) right.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Joe_F
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 06:54 PM

If I am forsaken, I'll not be forsworn,
And he's surely mistaken if he thinks that I'll mourn.
I'll get myself up in some right high degree
And pass as light by him as he can by me.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,Bernie
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 06:51 PM

Ian Tyson again,from his latest,"Yellowhead to Yellowstone"...
...a song to his estranged[and only]daughter...one of the saddest and loveliest of all...

Poplar trees are turning,how long has it been now
since I heard a word from you
since you blessed me with a smile
how long has it been ..

Evertything is so still;I can hear a dog bark
though,like you,he's far away
though like you he's gone from me
how long has it been....

How our horses couldn't wait to run
school bus afternoons in early fall
the races that you always won
through the fields of our dreams...

Now i'm waiting out the flight delays
waiting for the storm to pass
waiting for the sky to clear;and I see your face
I don't think I know you,but I know I love you
... still ......


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 06:28 PM

I do


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Tootler
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 04:54 PM

Commander Crabbe wrote:
It was originally a poem and if I ever read it as such I promise I'll punctuate it as such. Until then, while I choose to sing it, I'll arrange it and perform it any way I want. Of the many times I have done so, no one has ever complained that I got the punctuation wrong in that line.

All very well, but if you sing those last two lines the way you punctuated them, they completely lose their meaning. As they are effectively the "summing up" at the end, then the rest of the song loses its meaning.

Raglan Road is a superb song, but is not easy to sing because the phrasing of the words and the phrasing of the tune do not always match, so you need to think very carefully how you are going to phrase it so as to make the meaning clear to your listeners.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Stringsinger
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 02:26 PM

She's like a swallow that flies so high,
She's like a river that never runs dry,
She's like the sunshine on the lee shore,
I love my love and love is no more.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: meself
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 08:36 AM

"It was originally a poem and if I ever read it as such I promise I'll punctuate it as such. Until then, while I choose to sing it, I'll arrange it and perform it any way I want. Of the many times I have done so, no one has ever complained that I got the punctuation wrong in that line."

That's because almost no one knows or cares what this poem/song means, and they are quite content to enjoy it as a meaningless but tuneful jumble of words and images, or to impose on it whatever fanciful interpretation comes into their heads. See the pertinent threads for examples of same.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,Continuity Jones
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 04:43 AM

Now it's been 25 years or more
I've roamed this land from shore to shore
From Tyne to Teign, or Severn to Thames
From moor to vale, from peak to fen

Played in cafes, pubs and bars
I've stood in the street with my own guitar
But I'd be richer than all the rest
If I had a pound for each request

For 'Duelling Banjos', 'American Pie'
It's enough to make you cry
'Rule Britannia', or 'Swing low...'
Are they the only songs we English know?

Seed, bark, flower, fruit
They're never gonna grow without their roots
Branch, stem, shoot
They need roots

After the speeches, when the cake's been cut
The disco's over and the bar is shut
At christening, birthday, wedding or wake
What can we sing 'til the morning breaks

When the Indians, Asians, Afro-Celts
It's in their blood, below their belt
They're playing and dancing all night long
So what have they got right that we've got wrong?

Seed, bark, flower, fruit
They're never gonna grow without their roots
Branch, stem, shoot
They need roots and

Haul away boys, let them go
Out in the wind and the rain and snow
We've lost more than we'll ever know
'Round the rocky shores of England
We need roots

And a minister said his vision of hell
Is three folk singers in a pub near Wales
Well, I've got a vision of urban sprawl
There's pubs where no-one ever sings at all

And everyone stares at a great big screen
Overpaid soccer stars, prancing teens
Australian soap, American rap
Estuary English, baseball caps

And we oughta be ashamed of all we walk
Of the way we look, at the way we talk
Without our stories or our songs

And the guy next door's a west indian fella
but we get on well chat about uri gellar
and next to him there's an African born
but he always helps me mow my lawn

How will we know where we come from?
If this Sat Nav gives up and dies
We've lost George Cole and the tv remote
behind the sofa that's where it lies

Seed, bark, flower, fruit
Never gonna grow without their roots
I'd go out now and tend that garden
if I could only find them blasted boots

Haul away boys, let them go
Out in the wind and the rain and snow
Out in the hail and the fog and the sun as well
down past the piggery with it's awful smell
We need roots


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 08:14 PM

Murray

My most humble apologies!

However, you try singing the line with your punctuation to the the last bar of "The dawning of the day", the tune to which it is most frequently sung.

It was originally a poem and if I ever read it as such I promise I'll punctuate it as such. Until then, while I choose to sing it, I'll arrange it and perform it any way I want. Of the many times I have done so, no one has ever complained that I got the punctuation wrong in that line.

Quote "I do so hate to be pedantic" Hmmmmmmmmm! Maybe not I think.

Yours mistakenly

CC


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Bluegrassman
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 07:21 PM

The farmers dog can only bark
But the cold north wind can bite.
From a Butch Hancock song called "You've never seen me cry" and performed by the Flatlanders.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 06:02 PM

I do so hate to be pedantic, but Commander Crabbe has got the punctuation badly wrong in his line from Raglan Road, notwithstanding the fact that most people mistakenly sing it the way he punctuated it.

It's not:

When the angel woos, the clay he'll lose, his wings at the dawn of day

It is:

When the angel woos the clay, he'll lose his wings at the dawn of day.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: autoharpbob
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 08:11 AM

"If it wasn't for the 'gators, I'd sleep out in the woods"

"T'would been better for us both had we never, in this wide and wicked world had never met
For the pleasures we've both seen together, I am sure love I'll never forget"


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: PHJim
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 10:55 PM

They say I am feeble with age, Maggie
My steps are less sprightly than then
My face is a well written page, Maggie
But time alone was the pen.
They say we are aged and grey, Maggie
As spray by the white breakers flung
But to me you're as fair as you were, Maggie
When you and I were young.

George Johnson


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 10:39 PM

I buyed me a little bull about four inches high
And everybody feared him that ever heard him cry
For when that he did bellow it was such melodious sound
That all the walls of London came a-tumbling to the ground
Sing tadladay


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 07:29 PM

ENGLAND 1914: Ralph McTell

"But the gas-lamps stand like soldiers, Hiss warnings to the wind
Their evening vespers prophecy of war."


THE SETTING: Ralph McTell

"Outside the trees they grew starlings like apples. Their bustle and chatter, not dampened by the rain."


The Wild Geese/Norland Wind: Violet Jacob

And far abune the Angus straths I saw the wild geese flee
A lang lang skein o' beating wings wi' their heids towards the sea
and aye their cryin voices trailed behind them on the air
Oh wind Hae mercy, haud yer wheesht, for I daurna listen mair.


Deep Dark River: (Lloyd Roberts)

And always I hear the stir of men slipping
Down the Chaudiere, their thin blades dripping
Catch the low wraith of a long bark canoe
And the wilod sweet chansons of a phantom crew


The Outside Track: Henry Lawson

And one by one and two by two, they've sailed from the wharf since then.
I've said goodbye to the last I knew, the last of the careless men
And I can't but think that the times we had were the best times after all.
As I turn aside, raise a lonely glass and drink to the bar room wall.


Raglan Road: Patrick Kavanagh

When the angel woos, the clay he'll lose, his wings at the dawn of day.

CC


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 07:21 PM

"That's why traditional lyrics tend to work better for me than most singer-songwriter lyrics - they make you see something, rather than spending a lot of time telling you about it."

Well put CET, there is a sparse and direct commentary with most Trad. lyrics which assume the listeners complicity irrespective of how 'otherworldly' or unreal the circumstances depicted are.
There is a magic in this as it triggers the listener into a childlike suspension of disbelief, or so I think...


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Mr Fox
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 07:11 PM

If you had been a practical man,
You would have been forewarned.
You would have seen that it never could work,
And I would have never been born.

- Never any Good, Martin Simpson

I see angels on Ariels in leather and chrome,
Swooping down from heaven to carry me home

- '52 Vincent Black Lightning, Richard thompson

Brown hair zig-zag around her face
And a look of half-surprise
Like a fox caught in the headlights
There was animal in her eyes

- Beeswing, Richard Thompson

Then he became a burning bush
With a flame that leapt so high
And he sang the song the spider sings
When she comes to court the fly

- Jack Rowland, Trad/Martin Carthy

Great silence hung from tree to sky
The woods grew still, the sun on fire
As through the wood the dove he came
As through the wood he made his moan

- Famous Flower of Serving Men, Trad/Martin Carthy

As I walked out one fine spring day
I saw twelve jolly dons decked out in the blue and the gold so gay
And to a stake they tied a child new-born
Then the bells were rung and the songs were sung and they sewed their corn

- Scarecrow, Lal Waterson


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: CET
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 06:24 AM

Richard, you beat me to it with Child Owlett! It's one of my favourites - better described as stomach-churning rather than heart-rending, but doesn't it just put you in the moment?

That's why traditional lyrics tend to work better for me than most singer-songwriter lyrics - they make you see something, rather than spending a lot of time telling you about it.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Tootler
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 05:22 AM

Was there ever a greater cry of anguish than the last stanza of "The Well Below the Valley"

For seven long years I'll be ringing the bell
But the Lord above may save my soul from porting in Hell!
At the well below the valley O

From a woman who had committed incest (most likely been forced to) with her uncle, brother and father and had killed or seen killed the babies resulting from these liaisons.

I found an almost identical verse in an American version of the Cruel Mother when the ghosts of her murdered babies tell her

For seven long years you'll be ringing the bell
In seven long years you'll be going to Hell

Puts an entirely different complexion on essentially the same verse yet equally powerful.

Burton Coggles: sorry for pinching your suggestion or is it a case of "great minds" [grin].


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Bert
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 03:30 AM

When the wind whistles cold on the moor at the night
All along down along out along lee
Tom Pierce's gray mare doth appear ghastly white....


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: beeliner
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 12:57 AM

Townes VanZandt: "Silver Ships of Andilar"

Of those that sailed the silver ships
From Andilar I am the last
The deeds that rang our youthful dreams
It seems shall go undone
North for the shores of Valinor
Our bows and crimson sails were made
Our captains were strong, our lances long
And our liege the holy king

The hills did turn from green to blue
And vanish as on the decks we watched
But every thought in that noble company
Was forward bound
To the lifeless plains of Valinor
Where reigns the dark and frozen one
And with tongues afire and glorious eyes
We pledged our mission be

The clime from mild to bitter ran
The wind from fair to fierce did blow
Oath and prayer did turn to thoughts
Of homes left far behind
Longed every man for some glimpse of land
And the host that did await us there
But each new day brought only a sea
And sky of ice and gray

Thanks give no word can drag you through
Those endless weeks our ships did roll
Thanks give you cannot see those sails
And faces bleach and draw
Ice we drank and leather did chew
For the oceans are unwholesome there
The dead that slid into the seas
Did freeze before our eyes

Then a wind did fling the ships apart
Each one to go her separate way
The sky did howl, the hull did groan
For how long I do not know
And what men were left when the winds had ceased
Grew dull and low of countenance
For soldiers denied their battle plain
On comrades soon must turn

So one by one we died alone
Some by hunger, some by steel
Bodies froze where they did fall
Their souls unsanctified
Until only another and I were left
Then just before his flame did fail
We shone ourselves brothers-in-arms
To serve the holy king

Perhaps this shall reach Andilar
Although I know not how it can
For once again he's hurled his wind
Upon the silver prow
But if it should my words are these
Arise young men fine ships to build
And set them north for Valinor
'Neath standards proud as fire


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 12:03 AM

A woman is a branchy tree,
A man a singing wind, wind;
And from your branches carelessly
He'll take what he can find, find,
He'll take what he can find...

Get home to your father's garden
Where you may weep your fill
And think on your own misfortunes
Brought on by your wanton will

The King looked o'er his left shoulder
And a grim look looked he;
"An 'twere not for my oath, Earl Marshall," he cried,
"Hanged you should be!"

And he took her by her lily-white hand
And he led her away to the hall
And he cut off her head from her neckbone
And kicked it against the wall!

The Brown Girl she was standing by
With knives both keen and sharp
Between the long ribs and the short
She pierced fair Eleanor's heart

"Oh never will I forget, forgive,
As long as I have breath.
I'll dance upon your green green grave
Where you do lie beneath."

And so on and so on and so on...

Aaaahhh ~~ say what you will: they just don't write 'em like that any more...

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 10:52 PM

The silence of a falling star
Lights up a purple sky


This is gorgeous.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 10:39 PM

Another traditional floater I would nominate is the "Sad is the fortunes of all womankind" opening stanza which is the topic of another ongoing thread at this moment.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Acorn4
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 04:06 PM

"Money doesn't talk, it swears, propaganda all is phoney!"

Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 02:17 PM

"MtheGM lamented the absence of "quotes from actual folk songs". As one pedant to another, I would point out that there were a few of those (in the narrower sense of "folk songs") before his posting." ===

Indeed, Richard, your post, pedant-2-pedant, made me check back: & there was indeed one [count them 1] post from Stringsinger containing several lines among a selection which would indeed qualify.

Pedantic apologies ···

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Mavis Enderby
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 02:14 PM

Tootler, you beat me to it with Brigg fair!


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 02:10 PM

"Having said that I don't know how many (if indeed any?) Americans recognise any distinction between traditional (very old) and contemporary (not so old) folk music. Honest here." GUEST CS
=====

One who most assuredly did, Sis, was the late great Sandy Paton; don't think I have ever met anyone much more conscious of the distinction.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 02:08 PM

MtheGM lamented the absence of "quotes from actual folk songs". As one pedant to another, I would point out that there were a few of those (in the narrower sense of "folk songs") before his posting.

However there has been a preponderance of recently-composed songs throughout this thread. Perhaps this reflects a general (though by no means universal) difference between the old songs, which tend to be largely matter-of-fact about the events recounted, and the new ones, which more often describe explicitly what the protagonists felt and thought.

For words that "take your breath away" how about the description of the fate of the innocent Child Owlet? (The following is hastily pasted from the DigiTrad. Other versions are similar.)

There wasnae grass nor heather knowe
Nor broom nor bonnie whin
But drappit wi' Chylde Owlet's blood
And pieces o' his skin

There wasnae stane on Elkin Moor
Nor yet a piece o' rush
But drappit wi' Chylde Owlet's blood
And pieces o' his flesh

Or the climax of the version of The Daemon Lover, where he grows taller than the ship's mast and dashes it to pieces?

Richard


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 02:06 PM

Vaughan Williams once said that he thought 'Searching For Lambs' had the most beautiful tune he had ever heard. Some of its lyrics are quite lovely also:

How hero-like the sun do shine
How pleasant is the air
I'd sooner rest on my true love's breast
Than any other where...

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 02:00 PM

The OP said: "I hope this won't turn into trad vs. non-trad thread. What I had in mind was a discussion of lyrics with power, so whether it's singer-songwriter or trad.that does it for you, have at it."

Yes, I had similar thing resulting from another thread I initiated recently where I put "folk" but meant something quite broad. My summation would be that it would be helpful if people creating threads clearly deliniated their terms and wants in the OP. I used the term "folk" when I was meaning "traditional & singer/songwriter" others read "folk" to mean "traditional only", so I had to explain the broader terms of my OP. Having said that I don't know how many (if indeed any?) Americans recognise any distinction between traditional (very old) and contemporary (not so old) folk music. Honest here.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:54 PM

"I hope this won't turn into trad vs. non-trad thread "

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No, indeed CET; this is one thread where contribs from both sides of that divide, right across the spectrum, should be welcome. I made that earlier observation because it seemed from the first few posts that traditional wasn't getting anything of a look-in at all.
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"That said, it would be interesting to hear from folks on my side of the Atlantic about traditional lyrics that take your breath away," you go on.
Can I suggest one such from over here: "Hug you & kiss you & tell you more lies Than the cross-ties on the railroad and the stars in the skies". That certainly a very beautiful one, & certainly from your side of the Atlantic, because over here, our railWAYS have SLEEPERS, not cross-ties.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Tootler
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:40 PM

And surely, one of the most beautiful love songs ever written:

It was on the fifth of August
The weather fair and mild
Unto Brigg Fair I did repair
For a love I was inclined

I got up with the lark in the morning
My heart was full of glee
Hoping for to meet my love
Long time I wished to see

I looked over my left shoulder
To see who I could see
And there I spied my own true love
Come tripping down to me

I took hold of her lily white hand
And merrily sang my heart
For now we are together
Never more to part

For courting is a pleasure
And parting is a grief
And a false hearted lover
Is worse than a thief

The green leaves they may wither,
The roots they may decay
Before that I prove false to her,
The lass I love so well.


The simplicity of the language makes it more telling.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:35 PM

There are so many great songs and with true bits of poetic brilliance in them. The quote from Brave Wolfe is an excellent example. How does one find just a few to choose from.

Ian and Sylvia's song The French Girl, I assume by Ian Tyson just captivates me again every time I hear it. The line from Along Side the Sante Fe Trail She had a smile like an acre of sunflowers brings to me a face I haven't seen in 40 years but I remember it still.

And Henry Lawson's poem set to music Reedy River is just one rolling collection of pictures. I don't have a favorite but those I mentioned will do until I find one.

Don


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Tootler
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:30 PM

There's not enough quotes from Traditional songs on this thread. They are the true folk songs.

The sheep's in the meadow, the kye's in the corn
Thoo's ower lang in thy bed, bonny at morn.

The bird's in the nest, the trout's in the burn,
Thoo troubles thy mother at mony a turn

We're all laid idle wi' keeping o' the bairns.
The lad winnot wairk, the lass winnot lairn.


Trad Northumbrian.

I'm sure that any parent whose children are teenagers or older will recognise this scenario.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: PHJim
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:04 PM

Wilder Than Her - Fred J. Eaglesmith

Well I'm wilder than her, and what else can I say
But I guess that's why she fell in love with me
She's a house on fire, she's got all those charms
I'm a house on fire, too, but I got four alarms


And I'm wilder than her, and it drives her out of her mind
I guess she thought that she was just one of a kind
But she's a summer storm, and I'm a hurricane
One just blows through town, one blows the town away
And I'm wilder than her



When we go drivin' in our cars, racing through the night
She can drive as fast as me but she stops at all the lights
She says it's 'cause I'm crazy and she's probably right
But I think that the reason is that I'm twice as wild

chorus

But when she takes my hand and she looks me in the eye
I see something that I've never seen in my life
She takes the fire and turns it down low
She takes the night and makes it not so cold
She takes the distance and breaks it into miles
She makes my life just a little less wild


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: PHJim
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:02 PM

The silence of a falling star
Lights up a purple sky
And as I wonder where you are
I'm so lonesome I could cry


Hank Williams


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: CET
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 12:54 PM

I hope this won't turn into trad vs. non-trad thread. What I had in mind was a discussion of lyrics with power, so whether it's singer-songwriter or trad.that does it for you, have at it.

That said, it would be interesting to hear from folks on my side of the Atlantic about traditional lyrics that take your breath away.

There are plenty of fine songwriters that don't manage to achieve this: Lennon/Macartney to name two. I wouldn't include many Bob Dylan songs either. Much as I like his music, he never wrote anything (IMHO) that equalled the emotional impact of Stan Rogers or Ian Tyson at their best.

Here's some more:

La reine a fait faire un bouquet
De belles fleurs de lise
Et la senteur de ce bouquet
A fait mourir Marquise

(Le roi a fait battre tambour)

Hard to get any simpler than that and it's all there in high definition - the bitter hatred of the queen for the Marquise, who is only the victim of the philandering king. You can practically put yourself in the room in the royal palace where the Marquise dies alone.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: mrmoe
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 09:58 AM

Carl Watanabe's "where the uplands roll"

if you say my name where the uplands roll
and the answer you get ain't very kind
they'll be spoken by my hard friends of old
and my hard friends of old, I don't mind

I met a green eyed girl where the chaparral rolls
and grows high up to meet the yellow pine
her name and age best be unknown
it's enough just to say she once was mine

she was fair but her ways were much fairer yet
and her laughter could dance against the wind
her manner charmed everyone that she met
'til they held her as dear as next of kin

each young man placed his wealth and his soul in her hand
but none of them could be so proud
for she did choose a stranger to the land
and she came to me with her head bowed

our wedding day would come when the spring flowers bloomed
like two horses we danced into the sun
the stallion pranced and the mare would follow
before our wedding day a child would come

soldiers kill and we honor them with fortune and fame
but a baby who's harmed not one life
but is early to come is bathed full in shame
so must die unborn to a doctor's knife

as the doctor took our unborn babe
seeds of sorrow took root upon her mind
in her body the poison from his unwashed blade
left a wound who's cure we'd never find

so if you say my name where the uplands roll
and the answer you get ain't very kind
they'll be spoken by my hard friends of old
and my hard friends of old, I don't mind

but if they say not a word about me at all
but are reminded of a young girl once so fine
then listen close to the words that they recall
and they'll tell you of a girl who once was mine


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 09:42 AM

The whole of
'I sowed the seeds of love' takes some beating.


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Subject: RE: Great folk song lyrics
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 09:37 AM

GREAT THREAD ... I'll contribute after I wake some more ... Bob(deckman)Nelson


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