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Subject: RE: nowt as queer as folk concert From: buddhuu Date: 11 May 10 - 05:28 AM I sort of see the OP's point (at least, what I hope was his point). While events that promote understanding and tolerance are great, there may be a slight risk that some of them serve to reinforce perceptions of difference. Perhaps perpetuating an us-and-them artificial separateness. If the point is to celebrate those differences, and specifically to highlight the contribution made by that group, then fair enough. Unfortunately we are surrounded by knobheads who do not celebrate variety, and who are hostile to anything that doesn't conform to their template, which is where the risk comes into it. If the point is to advance the acceptance of all colours, flavours, orientations etc etc, then perhaps that aim might be served by promoting events that include everyone. Thus at a gay/lesbian event, have performers who are gay, bi, straight and all stations between. The point of the exercise, namely the promotion of acceptance of a spectrum of sexual preferences, would be served, but with the active inclusion of everyone. It would be more a living, breathing example of acceptance and unity than an event where only one group was allowed to perform. I think I've probably explained my thinking pretty badly... Events where all performers are a member of the group whose interests are to be promoted are fine, and I support them. Just saying, maybe they miss an opportunity. [/£0.02] |
Subject: RE: nowt as queer as folk concert From: Ruth Archer Date: 10 May 10 - 06:02 PM Like events dedicated to the work of, say, Black and Minority Ethnic performers, such concerts give a visibility to the artists who fall into this category, and help those artists to unite the two halves of themselves: the musician and the person. If you think this is unnecessary, perhaps you should have been at the concert and heard Tim Van Eyken's incredibly moving observations about this. "is the next concert going to be one that celebrates heterosexual performers?" One could argue that the majority of concerts actually celebrate heterosexual performers, and heterosexual songs. After all, many folk songs are about male-female love, relationships, and shagging. Why should gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered artists not have the chance to celebrate their own relationships and sexuality in the same way? In a perfect world, of course, gay and lesbian people would be able to sing songs which celebrate their sexuality within a regular folk concert and the audience would not bat an eyelid. Sadly, that's not quite where we are in the folk world, so until that day comes, it seems rahter churlish, if not even somewhat bigoted, to begrudge GLBT folk singers and musicians one single concert. |
Subject: RE: nowt as queer as folk concert From: The Awkward Recruit Date: 10 May 10 - 05:55 PM I was also at the concert. I'm straight but enjoyed it immensely. I would have appreciated the music whatever the sexual preferences of the performers, and of course normally their sexuality should not affect their bookings. However, the concert was the final one in a series of Folk against Fascism events that took place last week. These were designed to show Nick Griffin and his supporters, who have been attempting to hi-jack folk music, that the scene is inclusive of all the diverse groups who make up Britain today. For example, the day before's concert at the South Bank included African, Asian, Turkish and travellor performers. The conceert was also very moving, as some of the performers told their stories of the prejudice they had encountered in their lives. Maureen Musson |
Subject: RE: nowt as queer as folk concert From: GUEST,Stephen W Date: 10 May 10 - 05:15 PM I attended and had a great time thanks. I'm gay and it was nice to have a gig dedicated to gay folkies. It was a long day too, I didn't leave until after 11.00 pm. It was a bit cold for Pimms on the lawn but we managed anyway. Stephen W (Trying to be sophisticated..) |
Subject: RE: nowt as queer as folk concert From: Vic Smith Date: 10 May 10 - 04:08 PM Whoops - not logged in - so the above will be deleted so:- was this organised by the EFDSS? No, but it generated a lot of interest and apparently - we were out of the country at the time - was a great success. It has also generated a really interesting debate on sexuality and performing at http://froots.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5230 which, largely, has developed without recourse to insult. |
Subject: RE: nowt as queer as folk concert From: GUEST Date: 10 May 10 - 04:03 PM was this organised by the EFDSS? No, but it generated a lot of interest and apparently - we were out of the country at the time - was a great success. It has also generated a really interesting debate on sexuality and performing at http://froots.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5230 which, largely, has developed without recourse to insult. |
Subject: nowt as queer as folk concert From: The Sandman Date: 10 May 10 - 03:41 PM what does being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender have to do with playing music? ok, all these groups play music, but doesnt this become something that excludes all the performers who dont fall into this category. music should be something that is judged on its merits,the sexual preference of performers,should not be the reason why performers get asked or not asked to play at a concert,whether those performers are hetro sexual or bisexual or homosexual or trans gender. is the next concert going to be one that celebrates heterosexual performers? peopes sexual preferences should not have any bearing on whether they get musical work,that should be decided on the quality of their music. was this organised by the EFDSS? |
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