Subject: Tune Add: THE NIGHTRIDER'S LAMENT From: alison Date: 12 Aug 99 - 07:39 AM Hi, Thanks to Big Mick singing to me through the computer (be still my beating heart *grin*), using mediaring..... here is a tune which is missing from the database. slainte alison
MIDI file: NIGHTR~1.MID Timebase: 480 Name: THE NIGHTRIDER'S LAMENT This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: MMario Date: 12 Aug 99 - 08:44 AM Isn't technology wonderful? But one small corner of my mind is saying "Dick is probably ready to KILL due to all the extra work that this is causing...." MMario |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: katlaughing Date: 12 Aug 99 - 12:46 PM Art Thieme does a beautifully haunting rendition of this song. Just superb. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Art Thieme Date: 13 Aug 99 - 12:32 PM Why do ya ride for your money? Why do you rope for short pay? You aint' gettin nowhere, you aint' gettin' your share, Oh, you must've gone crazy out there.
But they aint' never seen the Northern Lights, |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Dale Rose Date: 13 Aug 99 - 08:48 PM I have been looking around to see if I could find the earliest recording of this. I suspected that it could be Chris LeDoux, on Paint Me Back Home In Wyoming, 1978. So far, I have not found an earlier one, but since the copyright date in the DT says Mike Burton, 1975, it could well have been done previously. Anyhow, there is a FULL MINUTE CLIP from Amazon.com, taken from his 1983 album, Old Cowboy Classics, released on Liberty/Capitol in 1991. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Dale Rose Date: 13 Aug 99 - 08:53 PM Well, don't bother with the direct link to THE FULL MINUTE CLIP! Add Amazon to the list of sites that won't let you do that, I guess. It is easy enough though, just click on the OLD COWBOY CLASSICS, and THEN go to Night Rider's Lament ~~ that works. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Art Thieme Date: 13 Aug 99 - 09:28 PM I recorded it about then---on that LP on Kicking Mule that MAG just bought at auction here. Art |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Dale Rose Date: 13 Aug 99 - 10:21 PM Well, I thought of yours, Art, but my info was faulty, I guess. I checked at the Folk Music Performer Index, and it said 198?, so I didn't look any further. I DO know the first version I ever heard though, Ian Tyson on Old Corrals & Sagebrush, Columbia 38949, 1983. Now there was (and is) a good album. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Tiger Date: 14 Aug 99 - 07:19 AM Jerry Jeff Walker does this one on his 1975 album "Ridin' High" It's attributed to Michael Burton. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Peter T. Date: 14 Aug 99 - 12:43 PM Nanci Griffith does a nice version on Other Voices, Other Rooms (I or II, I forget which). There is a great yodel on it -- better check this out back home. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Frank of Toledo Date: 14 Aug 99 - 12:58 PM Don Edwards is the yodeler on the Nancy Griffith version; a real pretty version with excellent harmony can be hear on Sandy and Caroline's Folk Legacy Label, done by Gordon Box, Ed Trickett and Ann Mayo Muir with Ed doing the lead part... |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Frank of Toledo Date: 14 Aug 99 - 01:07 PM Sorry for the typo, Gordon dserves more than a Box it should have been Bok... The CD number of the Folk Legacy release is CD 1004. There was also a Nashville version by Suzy Boggus vocally well done by the typical Nashville arrangements thaat always seem to turn music into products..... |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Art Thieme Date: 14 Aug 99 - 01:13 PM Dale, You're probably right. My memory for date details is not what it was. I'm thinkin' we probably actually recorded it in the late 70s but it was issued in the 80s. I know I was playing a Gurian guitar then---hadn't won the D-76 in the raffle yet. The D-76 guitar was issued by Martin to celebrate the bicentennial. (If you're from the West, it's called the bisontennial.) It simply was too high priced to sell what with lower 70s prices, so the Old Town Fakelore ;-)Center got their investment back by the raffle method. I never did yodel. (We do what we can.) Art |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: katlaughing Date: 14 Aug 99 - 01:20 PM Jeez, Dale, I have an autographed copy of that Chris LeDuex, he used to come into the radio station in Casper all of the time; we gave him lots of airplay at KVOC country.I used to bawl my eyes out listening to Paint Me BAck Home in Wyo. when I lived back east, but I don't ever remember hearing this on that album. I'll have to dig it out and listen. Regardless and as much as I love Chris and his early stuff, I still say Art Thieme did the BEST rendition, well, unless my dad does one:-)! Love ya, Art! kat |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Dale Rose Date: 14 Aug 99 - 06:59 PM Art, my memory isn't any better. If I couldn't look things up, I don't know what I'd do! Sometimes even that doesn't help.
Kat, how nifty to have that! From all reports, he is much to be admired, not only as a singer, but certainly as a rodeo man, an artist, and most importantly, as a person. I love all his things (well, maybe not the REALLY rock oriented stuff), and have all of his first twenty or so albums when they were released by Capitol in the early 90s, but only a couple of cassettes from the early days when he and his parents were doing it all by themselves. I read a neat story about his Mom. They had a tape duplicator at home, and she would set a timer and whenever the dinger went off, she'd stop her housework and put a new batch in, then they'd sell them from the trunk of their car at the rodeos that Chris was riding at. Indeed, for the first years, that was about the only place you could get Chris LeDoux recordings, rodeos and tack suppliers. How nice to be able to find them absolutely everywhere now, nearly 25 years later. And yes, the song, Paint Me Back Home In Wyoming is a real keeper weeper.
Tiger, sounds like Jerry Jeff wins the earliest derby, provided the copyright date of 1975 is correct. I haven't heard it, but I'll bet its a good'un too. I still lament the passing of Jerry Jeff's show on TNN, along with virtually everything else worth watching on The Nothing Network.
Peter and Frank, yes that is a good one too, but I have to confess that I seldom listen to the later works of Nanci Griffith, so I'll have to dig that one out to reacquaint myself with it. I also have to defend Suzy Bogguss just a bit, though I know you weren't really trashing her. Yes, it may be just a bit overdone, but unfortunately, that is what the public buys nowadays. And Suzy has certainly done her part over the years in selecting at least some material that is somewhat traditional in feel. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Frank Of Toledo Date: 14 Aug 99 - 08:28 PM You're absolutely right Dale, and no I meant none of that commentary towards Suzy. She has recorded some wonderful things by herself, Night Rider"s Lament, and Tom Russell's Outbound Plane just to mention two, and has also done some class material with Chet Atkins. My opinion was directed at the "powers" that be in Nashvillle that see only $$$ and not musical integrity.... |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: WyoWoman Date: 14 Aug 99 - 10:26 PM NIghtrider's Lament was one of the songs I sang when I won the High Plains Old Time Country Music female vocal first place (whew!). Did it yodel and all, but wasn't real secure on the yodel, so on the way down to the show, I was driving along in my black pickup truck, practicing my yodel over and over, concentrating fiercly, when suddenly I became aware of the Wyoming Highway Patrol flashing lights behind me and inviting me to please pull over. I told him I was practicing my yodel and, oh, by the way, the guy who was accompanying me was one of his fellow patrol officers, and he said, "Isn't that nice? Mike's a good picker..." and handed me a moving violation for $200. I was going 98 mph. Big fat hairy oooops! But I did get the yodel down pat and won the cheesy plastic trophy, $50 and, of course, glory. WW |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Peter T. Date: 15 Aug 99 - 07:11 PM Don Edwards, great yodel. Was that the yodel you did, Wyowoman, or your own brand? yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: WyoWoman Date: 15 Aug 99 - 07:17 PM Pretty much his, with slightly less flourish. His is such a distinctly cowboy/western yodel, isn't it? I have an album of his stuff and did "Prairie Lullabye" off of it. It's just the prettiest tune. Got a friend at the last minute to play fiddle for me and mmmmm. SO sweet. WW |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: katlaughing Date: 15 Aug 99 - 08:18 PM WW, mom and dad used to put me sleep with the Prairie Lullaby and I've not found too many people who know it. I wonder if it is the same one? bet has their old sheet music for it. I can't wait to hear you tomorrow night! kat |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: WyoWoman Date: 15 Aug 99 - 09:25 PM Oh, yeay. You're gonna be there! Far out! Did you see that we were side by side in today's paper? Cool beans. ww |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: katlaughing Date: 15 Aug 99 - 10:29 PM Yea, I saw that. Made me smile, good company and all that! Hey, gang, WW performs tomorrow night for our Summer Poetry & Music Series. First time I'll get to hear her sing! |
Subject: Chords req.: The Nightrider's Lament From: Genie Date: 21 Jan 03 - 10:18 PM There's a dispute among some folkies in my neck of the woods re the chords to this song. It may stem from folks hearing different versions. Since I can't play ABC files, do any of you folks have the chords handy? (The chord pattern would probably settle the tune questions). Genie |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: GUEST,Q Date: 21 Jan 03 - 11:41 PM Cowpie has some chords. Ian Tyson version from Jerry Jeff Walker, it says. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: GUEST,Q Date: 21 Jan 03 - 11:43 PM They have two versions on Cowpie. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: open mike Date: 22 Jan 03 - 02:00 AM i love this song! weconsider it our theme song at the butte folk music society...is that cuz we're all crazy?! does anyone know of any other songs by Michael Burton? |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: GUEST Date: 22 Jan 03 - 03:46 AM Have sung the song for years. The best version in existence is by a folksinger from Cleveland, OH named Alex Bevan. Sweetest Welsh tenor I've ever heard. He may have recorded it on an album called 'Springboard' in 1976. There's several great, self-penned songs on it. One's called 'Rodeo Rider' which is, basically a rewrite of NRL, but a great song, nonetheless. Had a regional hit with a ditty entitled 'Skinny Little Boy'. He was a contemporary of John Bassette's whose claim was an EP called 'Weed and Wine' which had the title song and one called 'Hestler Street'. Ooops...I digressed...sorry. Alex's version of NRL is well worth digging up if you can find it. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Rex Date: 22 Jan 03 - 02:23 PM I've known Alex Bevan for some years. He's still doing the shows and cranking out CD's now. Even his old records are available on CD. He's even got a website (http://www.ncweb.com/ent/alex/) And yep, his Rodeo Rider is on the Springboard album. I'm pretty fond of that song and often sing myself at places. All that being said, I've never hear him do the NRL on any recording or any show I've seen. So I'm curious to know if you recall what album if any. I hope to hear him sing it sometime. Ayep, he's a good singer. Heck of a guitar picker too. Rex |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Lane Date: 22 Jan 03 - 09:46 PM Great tune.... played it for years also... Genie - if you haven't found the chords, its pretty simple. Verse is: G C G D C G D G Chorus: C G D, C G D, C D G C Am D G. If you need it, I'll write it out for you, just PM me... By the way... always wanted to learn the yodeling part? How the heck does one learn to yodel??? Lane |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: open mike Date: 23 Jan 03 - 03:44 AM by riding bucking horses--and landing wrong! no, actually there is a cut on a kids "album" by cathy fink and marcie marxer that teaches a simple yodel step by step-staring with a 2-note glottal stop. I think it is an octave jump alternating "ah" and "ee" sounds...try that for starters if you can decipher the lesson #1.. it has something about grandma sliding down the bannister or else it has something to do with making ice cream- that's all my memory banks can dredge up right now. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: GUEST Date: 23 Jan 03 - 11:11 AM Hey Rex, Had an 'endorsed bootleg' version(meaning I had permission)recorded through the mixer from a show at the 'Flipside' in Cleveland Heights. Gave a copy to Alex and made some for friends. Mine's been lost for years. Maybe, if you ask Alex to sing it he'll record it on his next cd. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Bullfrog Jones Date: 23 Jan 03 - 11:25 AM I enjoy singing NRL, too, but have never attempted the yodelling. Inspired by Lane's question, I put "How to yodel" into a search engine, and guess what? There's loads of people out there just waiting to teach us! Unfortunately they all want us to give them money. Anyone got any free tips? BJ |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: GUEST Date: 23 Jan 03 - 12:01 PM There's a song called 'Teach Me How To Yodel' in which the process is explained. I'll start another thread and try to give the basics as I know them. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: GUEST,Rex on the work 'puter Date: 24 Jan 03 - 08:13 AM I hope Alex does record this. I should like to hear it. Rex |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Genie Date: 24 Jan 03 - 09:23 PM Lane (and others), yes, the chords are easy -- if you are sure of the tune. It's the tune (for the verse) I'm not positive about in places. I have two different sets of chords for the song, and they differ enough to affect the tune in a couple of places. BTW, Amos learned this from Mudjack last summer at Camp Runamuck. Mudjack does a helluva good job on it, and now that Amos has sorta made it his theme song, he does a bang-up job, too. Genie |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Nightrider's Lament From: Lane Date: 24 Jan 03 - 10:01 PM Genie, There are some variations on this song... and I've jammed with Mudjack on it - his version varies from mine (different does not mean "right")... anyway, if I can help you learn it, I'd be happy to... could send you an MP3 of "my" version, if you wish.. Lane |
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