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heintje and Don Kosaken Chor

mg 22 May 10 - 09:55 PM
Joe Offer 22 May 10 - 10:07 PM
mg 22 May 10 - 10:35 PM
Dave Hanson 22 May 10 - 10:52 PM
mg 22 May 10 - 10:56 PM
Joe Offer 22 May 10 - 11:07 PM
mg 22 May 10 - 11:23 PM
mg 23 May 10 - 01:06 AM
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Subject: heintje and DOn Kosaken Chor
From: mg
Date: 22 May 10 - 09:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnnrJ20RkKA&feature=related

Very pretty.


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 May 10 - 10:07 PM

MG, is that all you can say about it?

If so, why bother?

I hate threads that start with just a link. Why can't people take the time to say something about what they're linking to? It's not just you, MG. It happens time and time again. If you don't care, why bother starting a thread? Or why shouldn't we have a "nice links" thread and cut all the crap? But even then, why not say something about what you're linking to?

-Joe-

(this is my personal opinion, to which I am entitled, and has nothing to do with my position as a moderator)


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: mg
Date: 22 May 10 - 10:35 PM

Well, it is very pretty. I don't have a lot to say about it. Probably has something to say about post-war Europe and the devastation of the Netherlands and of Germany and the travesty of WWII..and of course the whole Soviet thing with the Cossaks that I know nothing about whatsoever..but others here do...Don't you want me to be multicultural? .mg


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 May 10 - 10:52 PM

What is the point ?

Dave H


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: mg
Date: 22 May 10 - 10:56 PM

Ntohing in particular. The post can be deleted if necessary. I like it when people point out pretty stuff though. mg


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 May 10 - 11:07 PM

    The Don Kosaken Chor (choir, chorale) comes with a broad spectrum of timbres, from the playfully instrumental sounding background of a solo part to the vocal authority of an operatic choir. The choir was founded in 1991 by Wanja Hlibka and George Tymczenko: both were soloists under Serge Jaroff in the world famous Don Kosaken Chor until its disbandment in 1979. The repertoire is the same as the former original choir's, with all scores being transcripts from Serge Jaroff's private music library, presently in the care of his son, Alexeij, in America. In the meantime the Don Kosaken Chor Wanja Hlibka has become a top "A Cappella" choir.

    Thanks to Hlibka's continuous activity and his absolute dedication to maximum performance, the choir continues to elate the public in spite of thousands of kilometres and hundreds of concerts a year. He is the guarantor of the high artistic level of the choir, whom he conducts, directs and dominates with nearly imperceptible movements.

    The choir performs live and without the aid of amplification even in such large venues as the Musikhalle in Hamburg, the Messehalle in Frankfurt or the Gewandhaus in Leipzig. For more than 10 years now the choir, under the conduction of Wanja Hlibka, has been touring and is giving concerts every year in about 250 cathedrals and concert halls. Television appearances on ZDF, SAT1, WDR1, ORF, MDR, ORB and RTL contributed to quickly growing popularity.


You'll find more .

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: mg
Date: 22 May 10 - 11:23 PM

here is another by the old choir...about a peasant revolt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEnSMa-lTzM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEnSMa-lTzM&feature=related

My own person relationship to this music? I don't know diddly about it but I love it. I lived in Seattle next to the Russian Orthodox church..and periodically I would be awakened to this type of music...and in the building..this was early 70s..there were many old Russians who had escaped the Russian revolution somehow...coming through China or wherever..many stories I did not ask for clarifications of and in accents I could not understand. But in the 70s there was talk all the time of revolution..and these old people were terrified it would be like it was before.

Also I think I was Ukranian in a previous life and taken out and shot in a field. I get like flashbacks now and then. Strongest when I was in Winnepeg of course.

Also, we have people here..one who said his German father died in Russia...probably many other sad stories on all sides.

I think the only thing that will help us all is not studying the history of the great wars etc. but listening story by story by story and putting names to some of this. I could tell you connections I know about here on Mudcat but it is not for me to say.

And of course we have had huge numbers of Russian and neighboring countries immigrate to my part of the world in recent years...some might be here... mg


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: mg
Date: 23 May 10 - 01:06 AM

Here is a song about a bell being rung on the steppes of Russia sang by a Buryat singer..Mongolian from Siberia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNv5ZvzTGJw&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNv5ZvzTGJw&feature=fvw

60 pages of comments in probably 10 languages..several people said it is the most beautiful song they have heard. mg


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: Artful Codger
Date: 23 May 10 - 05:06 AM

The song is "Однозвучно гремит колокольчик" (Monotonously Rings the Bell). The bell is specifically attached to a coach being driven down a lonely road. One of the most well-known Russian songs. Words by I. Makarov, music by K. Sodorovich.

I personally find this song nice enough, but far less captivating than many other Russian romances--it has never brought a tear to my eye as they have. If people think this is the most beautiful song they have ever heard, just wait till they hear the others! If you don't believe me, search for videos by Lyudmila Zykina, Boris Shtokolov and Oleg Pogudkin, for starters.


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: Artful Codger
Date: 23 May 10 - 05:09 AM

BTW, in the first clip, the choir is singing the song in German.

Also, the song pre-dates the Soviet regime--nothing to do with Soviet oppression or devastation.


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 May 10 - 12:40 AM

Why all the squabbling? If that's how you spell squabbling?

The words 'Don Kosaken Chor' in the thread title were all I needed to inspire me to click on the link, listen, and then explore similar pieces on YouTube. I enjoyed it and plan to return when it's not so late at night.

Thanks for the link, mg.


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: mg
Date: 24 May 10 - 02:25 AM

Here is butcher boy sung by a women's chorus with Russian words/tune??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oius1eEpghU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oius1eEpghU&feature=related

And I sure like that Mongolian man..what a voice. mg


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Subject: RE: heintje and Don Kosaken Chor
From: Artful Codger
Date: 24 May 10 - 03:10 AM

It might be easier searching for this song as "Скажи, скажи" (Skazhi, Skazhi = Tell, tell)--I'm guessing that "Skagi-skagi" is a regional pronunciation, probably with a modified g, akin to h or German ch. Nice find, mg.


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