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Who was Claribel?

Gutcher 27 May 10 - 06:36 PM
Artful Codger 27 May 10 - 07:49 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 May 10 - 07:56 PM
MMario 27 May 10 - 07:59 PM
Bill D 27 May 10 - 10:06 PM
Amos 27 May 10 - 10:43 PM
LadyJean 27 May 10 - 11:46 PM
Gutcher 28 May 10 - 04:48 AM
Artful Codger 28 May 10 - 04:56 AM
Amos 28 May 10 - 11:45 AM
catspaw49 28 May 10 - 12:13 PM
catspaw49 28 May 10 - 12:25 PM
Charmion 28 May 10 - 12:51 PM
SINSULL 28 May 10 - 12:56 PM
catspaw49 28 May 10 - 01:18 PM
Charmion 02 Jun 10 - 12:21 PM
An Buachaill Caol Dubh 04 Jun 10 - 11:28 AM
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Subject: Who was Claribel?
From: Gutcher
Date: 27 May 10 - 06:36 PM

The composer,words & music,of a favourite Scots song of mine is
given as Claribel.I have a notion that she/he composed more than
one song. Who was she/he & what are the dates?
The song that comes to mind is--"We"d Better Bide A-Wee"

Joe.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Artful Codger
Date: 27 May 10 - 07:49 PM

According to Wikipedia:
Charlotte Alington Pye Barnard (23 December 1830, London ? 30 January 1869, Dover) was an English poet and composer of ballads and hymns, who often wrote under the pseudonym Claribel.
Full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claribel

Her pseudonym turns up frequently in song books of the period.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 May 10 - 07:56 PM

Claribel was the pseudonym of Charlotte Alington Barnard, English composer of several old favorites including "Come Back to Erin" and "Bide a wee." Also wrote hymns.

I think she has been discussed before.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: MMario
Date: 27 May 10 - 07:59 PM

*blush*

I was going to say - which one, the cow, the clown, or the jeep

And I would have been wrong three times.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Bill D
Date: 27 May 10 - 10:06 PM

Why do I know the jeep was "Nellybelle"?


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Amos
Date: 27 May 10 - 10:43 PM

That was Pat Brady's jeep, Nellybelle. Pat was Roy Rogers' sidekick in the early years of cowboy TV. Roy and Dale always ended up singing "Happy Trails to You", while Pat Brady always ended up yelling "Whooooaaaaaa, Nellybelle!" at his jeep.

Claribel the Clown was a soda-water squirting rascal from the Howdy Doody show. Get your facts straight!

None of which has any bearing on the original, much more dignified, topic of this thread.


A


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: LadyJean
Date: 27 May 10 - 11:46 PM

Claribel the clown was a young actor named Bob Keeshan, who went on to become Kaptain Kangaroo.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Gutcher
Date: 28 May 10 - 04:48 AM

Thanks all for the information. The lady must at the very least have
slept with a Scotsman to have produced such a tear-jerker of a song,
we Scots being connoisseurs of the genre. Indeed "We"d Better Bide
A-Wee" is up there with a favourite gospel song in broad Scots that
I discovered was written by an American lady in 1860, she of course
had the advantage of having being brought up by a Scots nanny from
birth & had a Scots grandfather,her song being "My Ain Countrie",not
to be confused by the song of the same name compossed by Allan
Cunningham.

Joe.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Artful Codger
Date: 28 May 10 - 04:56 AM

I thought that sleeping with a Scotsman would drive her to distress because it was so disappointing. {ducks}

Wonder whom Gussie Lord Davis (the king of tear-jerkers) slept with.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Amos
Date: 28 May 10 - 11:45 AM

You should be careful about sleeping with those Scots. It can get you kilt.


A


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 May 10 - 12:13 PM

Ohio born Pat Brady got a first real break when he replaced his Ohio born freind Leonard Slye. While Pat went on to greater fame driving NellyBelle, Leonard got his bit of fame as Roy Rogers.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 May 10 - 12:25 PM

Ohio born Pat Brady got a first real break when he replaced his Ohio born freind Leonard Slye in the very popular western group, the Sons of the Pioneers. While Pat went on to greater fame driving NellyBelle, Leonard got his bit of fame as Roy Rogers.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Charmion
Date: 28 May 10 - 12:51 PM

Alas, I also am old enough to know about the clown (spelled Clarabel, I believe) and the jeep ... at first hand, what's more. None of this looking stuff up on Wikipedia for this pedant -- this time, anyway.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 May 10 - 12:56 PM

I remember all that too, Charmion. But I preferred Kukla, Fran and Ollie.
My sister-in-law was once in the Peanut Gallery. She lived in Buffalo.
SINS


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 May 10 - 01:18 PM

Don't feel so bad Charmion.....plenty of us who all too well remember right beside you!

The peanut gallery was Howdy Doody and although I had some of the Buffalo Bob and Howdy stuff, I too preferred Kukla, Fran, and Ollie too. But I was really saving my wish list grovelings for Davy Crockett trappings.....hat, shirt, records, replica Ol Betsy..........Hmmmmmm.....We seem to have hijacked the thread here......

Yeah....Clariibel.....poet type.......English.....hey, great..........wrote some stuff..........


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Charmion
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 12:21 PM

Ottawa was too far north to get U.S. stations without a heck of an antenna back in those days, so I missed out on the Kukla Fran & Ollie phenomenon and most of Howdy Doody.

Poets? Who cares about poets when we can gas on about our far-distant youth?


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 11:28 AM

Returning to Claribel: in one of the first book of Irish Songs (with musical scores) I ever bought, as a teenager, there was "Come Back to Erin" (and forty-nine others). Only one of these, a setting of The Air From County Derry, rose above the stave, and only to a G. However, admittedly as an "opp." note, the final phrase in Claribel's song rises to a Bb. It has been said that the melody of "Come Back to Erin", like many nineteenth-century "Irish" songs, has as little relation to Ireland as to Araby.


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Cool Beans
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 03:50 PM

But who was Claribel the Cow? Only cow I know is Elsie--all but forgotten, although here husband, Elmer, lives on as the logo for Elmer's Glue. And wasn't there a Claribel on The Lone Ranger radio show? Claribel Hornblower, or something like that?


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Subject: RE: Who was Claribel?
From: Artful Codger
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 04:32 PM

I know you may be easily distracted by tinsel, but please try to keep this thread focused on Claribel the songwriter, and start a BS thread for your childhood blatherings having sod-all to do with the original query.


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