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BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid

Lox 04 Jun 10 - 08:05 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 04 Jun 10 - 08:38 PM
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CarolC 04 Jun 10 - 08:55 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Lox
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:05 PM

Carol,

From what I can gather there are many Israeli and non Israeli Jews who are dealing with the same personal conflict vis a vis recognition of genuine anti-semitism on the one hand and anger at the Isareli administrations policies and actions on the other hand.

Of these people I have met a couple with very strong minds who are able to keep their focus despite intense family pressure and ridicule and despite the animisoty of Anti-semites, and who have a very clear agenda on the subject of what needs to change in Israel.

Like all people and countries worldwide, most people are vulnerable and manipulable, and they are played buy the media and by lies, while a minority of hard working courageous informed people sacrifice their health and the ease of comfy social acquiescence for a life of honesty and free expression.

Free expression is not a conferred right, it is a state of mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:38 PM

The Israelis would not permit the cement, and some other construction materials to go to the Gaza strip; such materials are banned. They would be kept and not sent on to Gaza.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:42 PM

God forbid the Gazans be allowed to re-build the buildings the Israelis bombed to smithereens. Or eat nutmeg.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:55 PM

I felt really bad for her, Lox. She's had quite a struggle. I felt especially bad last night when I saw what she wrote. I told her I have blood on my hands, too. I don't think that made her feel any better, though. She has a much more difficult set of choices to make than I do.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:20 PM

She's just passed the port of Alexandria in Egypt. They're saying 3 hours if she doesn't encounter any pirates.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Peace
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:21 PM

Israel has fucked up BIG time with the whole Gaza issue. George Bush did better PR while he was president. IMO, the UN should take over and send in peace-keeping troops and I don`t mean maybe. I have been an Israel supporter for most of my life. For the first time I have as little love for Israel as I do for most countries in the mid-East. I am not about to white-wash Hamas or any other groups that use the Gazans as a tool for propaganda, but the letter I`m penning to Netanyahu--assuming it gets to him--will make clear my extreme disappointment that the ONE country in the world that SHOULD understand the lot of the Palestinians doesn`t. It`s horseshit and I don`t care who knows it.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Emma B
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:31 PM

Peace, that post means a great deal to me as one who has frequently found myself at odds with you over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza

I only hope that it may mean something to Netanyahu too.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:57 PM

One sad side effect is that the Windows for Peace concert in Leeds this weekend has been cancelled. A movement meant to build bridges between Moslems and Jews using music. Probably doesn't do much, but wtf.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 10:23 PM

Update on the Rachel Corrie posted about 20 minutes ago.

http://www.ipadio.com/phlogs/Gaza_TVNews/2010/06/05/Gaza-TVs-phlog-Israeli-Naval-Ships-On-Way-To-Intercept-Ra


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 10:39 PM

Israel attempting to board.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 10:40 PM

Go here for live stream...

http://www.livestream.com/shiptogaza


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 10:42 PM

Rachel Corrie has been taken by pirates.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 10:49 PM

http://www.ipadio.com/phlogs/Gaza_TVNews/2010/06/05/Gaza-TVs-phlog-Rachel-Corrie-Ship-Now-Boarded-And-Under?displayMode=website


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 10:56 PM

Why couldn't Israel just escort the ship to a Gazan port, and inspect every item as it came off the ship and confiscate any weapons?

Oh wait. They'd also have to confiscate children's toys, wheelchairs, concrete, and nutmeg. That might be embarrassing with the world watching.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 11:02 PM

Plus, that would be recognizing the people of Gaza as human beings rather than as their door mats.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 11:08 PM

There's going to be a lot of boats and ships heading for Gaza in the next few months. A lot of boats and ships.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 11:18 PM

Twitter feeds are reporting that the passengers of the ship are saying that she has not been taken but is only being followed by the Israeli pirates. This is very strange.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 11:20 PM

twitter feed


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:34 AM

She's still steaming toward Gaza. Somebody tweeted that one of their Facebook friends in Gaza can see her about 20 miles off shore.


And here's a good resource for information about the flotilla...

The Flotilla Archive


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 02:04 AM

More fabricated evidence from the Israeli government...

http://aliabunimah.posterous.com/proof-emerges-idf-audio-of-radio-communicatio


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 02:27 AM

The pirates are ordering the Rachel Corrie to go to Ashdod. the ship has refused two times.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: freda underhill
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 02:31 AM

Time to look at an important thread started by Emma b last year, about An Arab Israeli orchestra, known as the West-Eastern Divan orchestra which shows a powerful choice that musicians are making - rather than getting caught up in the blame game, playing music together.

Daniel Baremboim and Edward Said, the joint founders of this orchestra, are helping break down barriers between young musicians from different Middle eastern backgrounds, giving them an opportunity to meet and get to know each other, while learning and making music together. This demonstrates the possibilities of a future when there can be peace in Palestine and Israel.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 02:59 AM

The pirates are starting to make threats.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 03:06 AM

Rachel Corrie preparing for possible takeover.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 03:27 AM

Some sources are reporting that she is being boarded. Some reports are saying she is no longer in sight of Gaza.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 03:40 AM

She hasn't been boarded yet, and she just refused the pirates 3rd order.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 03:45 AM

Rachel Corrie has entered Gazan waters. There are pirate gun boats all around her.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 04:02 AM

She refused a third warning. The pirates say they are preparing to take her forcefully, but nothing seems to have happened yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 04:14 AM

One of my facebook friends in Gaza posted this just now...

"every day i wakeup thinking of how would my life be if theire was no siege !!

it will be a really good life , not the best , but better than now !!
the best one , will be when we got the free PALESTINE for ever !! i wish !!"


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 04:41 AM

The Rachel Corrie has been forcibly seized by the Israeli pirates and is being towed to Ashdod. All on board are reported safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 04:50 AM

Now that it's over, I just want to say a word about fabricating anti-Semitic acts.

In the link I provided that proves that the recording that the Israeli government released in which people on the Mavi Marmara were supposed to have made anti-Semitic remarks and a remark that I guess they think a terrorist would make, is fabricated (more stupidity from the hasbara people), we have an example of just about one of the lowest things I can imagine anyone doing short of physically harming someone. They fabricate an act of anti-Semitism in order to smear several hundred good people. Not only do they commit a vile libel against these people, but they do a horrendous disservice to Jews who find themselves subjected to real acts of anti-Semitism, because when people find out that sometimes these things are fabricated as a weapon and to harm other people, they might not take real cases of anti-Semitism quite so seriously.

The Israeli government are just about the slimiest and most reprehensible people I can possibly imagine.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Roberto
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 05:55 AM

CarolC writes "Roberto's failure to differentiate the behavior of some Arabs and Palestinian rights activists" and asks Ed "Where is your criticism of Roberto's post?". But I didn't put different people all in a bunch. I reported two facts: Arab children at the demonstration in Rome taught by adults to shout "murderers" against Israel and a demonstration getting close to the Jew Ghetto in Rome shouting "murderers" against the Jew people that lives there. Facts, that I said I didn't like. What's your problem, CarolC?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 07:08 AM

BBC here:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10245176.stm


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Roberto
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 11:53 AM

One of the "peace activists" of the flotilla, Angela Lano, writes for a site whose name speaks for itself, TerraSantaLibera, that is "HolyLandFree". On this site, you can find "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion". That is, the worst racist anti-Semite propaganda.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:21 PM

Anybody who publishes the Protocols automatically puts themselves out of the running for being listened to or considered or even spoken about in polite company.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:23 PM

"Racist anti-Semite propaganda."
Excusing the behaviour of the Israelis by hiding behind the accusation of anti-Semitism is shameful.
Whenever criticism of Israel is raised it is met with "Anti Semitism" yet many of my Jewish friends have been the stongest critics of what they have described as 'Zionist Fascism'.
Up to around ten years ago we were protesting the existance of a wall dividing the two Germanys, yet the Israelis have built exactly the same wall for the same purpose.
They have illegally annexed Palestinian land and evicted the legitimate occupants.
They have systematically bombed civilians using chemical weapons; this bombing has included hospitals and schools.
They have illegally blockaded a country, preventing essential supplies from being landed there - including building material to re-build the same hospitals and schools razed to the ground by their bombs.
Comparisons with the Nazis and present day Israel are inescapable, and it is unforgivable that countries like the UK and the USA have continued to either support or ignore what is happening is proof of the old saying "Politics and money speak louder than humanity in todays world".
The very least that should happen is a total cessation of trade with Israel and a boycott of their goods similar to that against fascist South Africa.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:32 PM

"Israel's actions make antisemitism look reasonable to unthinking folk. That's most of the world."

There is a world of difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. The latter is perfectly valid as a way of expressing utter disapproval of Israeli occupation and the subjugation of the Palestinian people.

A fear of being labelled anti-Semitic is at least partly responsible for the blind eye that has been turned by the world's governments for several decades to Israel's repeated illegal, anti-humanitarian acts. Now is the time for the rest of the world to say enough is enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:34 PM

"The very least that should happen is a total cessation of trade with Israel and a boycott of their goods similar to that against fascist South Africa"

Indeed. If we can't get our governments to take a stand, then an international boycott is a good starting point for the rest of us. It helped to end Apartheid...


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:35 PM

But I didn't put different people all in a bunch. I reported two facts: Arab children at the demonstration in Rome taught by adults to shout "murderers" against Israel and a demonstration getting close to the Jew Ghetto in Rome shouting "murderers" against the Jew people that lives there. Facts, that I said I didn't like. What's your problem, CarolC?

This is what you said, verbatim:

At the demonstration tonight in Rome, Arab children shouting murderers against Israel. Two days ago, the demonstration in praise of the flottilla with activists shouting murderers at the Jew peole in Rome's ghetto. I'll never support such shame.

Which shame? The protests, or the specific people who said these things? You didn't differentiate. And where is your condemnation for the Israelis who are calling for death to all Arabs?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:38 PM

"The Israeli government are just about the slimiest and most reprehensible people I can possibly imagine".

Well, as to slimy actions and news fabrications by governments, there are alot to draw from. Take the Kuwait conflict, and consider the example below:


http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: bobad
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:46 PM

"Up to around ten years ago we were protesting the existance of a wall dividing the two Germanys, yet the Israelis have built exactly the same wall for the same purpose."

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall one of the Germanys sending suicide bombers into the other for the purpose of murdering innocent people.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:01 PM

Roberto, it looks to me like you are doing exactly the same thing as the Israeli government. I just had a look at the website to which you refer, and the page that contains the protocols. I used the babelfish translator to see what the text above the protocols had to say and while I couldn't understand all of it, the word "false" appears three times. It looks to me like a warning to people to not believe the protocols should people happen to come across them on the web.

Ed, there is no doubt that there is no shortage of slimy, reprehensible people in governments all over the world. But that doesn't alter what I said. Israel is spitting on the graves of every Jew who died in the Holocaust when they fabricate acts of anti-Semitism in order to smear people and silence them. And they help to create an environment in which people are less likely to believe accusations of anti-Semitism that are true.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:38 PM

"Up to around ten years ago we were protesting the existance of a wall dividing the two Germanys, yet the Israelis have built exactly the same wall for the same purpose."

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall one of the Germanys sending suicide bombers into the other for the purpose of murdering innocent people.


Sheesh. That's because the wall was put up by their own government. So who are they going to kill, themselves?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:40 PM

From Alice Walker -


You will have no protection


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Emma B
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:41 PM

In an article published 6 years ago about the motives of suicide bombers, Professor Paul Wilson, writer, criminologist and Dean of Humanities and Social Sciences at Bond University concludes...

"In short, interpreting the motives of suicide bombers in simple psychological or religious terms does not get us very far.

Suicide bombers are motivated to commit their carnage because they believe, rightly or wrongly, they have been oppressed and humiliated by the Israelis for decades.

Causing terror among their enemies is one of the few ways left to them to fight back.

What this means is that neither Arafat himself or the might of the Israeli army can stop hundreds if not thousands of young men and women from acting as deadly human missiles.

Their actions most certainly have tragic consequences that may well be described as "evil".

But their motives are political rather than satanic or fanatical and only political solutions will stop the terror from continuing."


Six years later, Arafat has gone, but the sense of injustice and political impotence in the light of the world's indifference to the humanitarian crisis on Gaza following the blockade has only increased.

While Gaza may not have received its desperately needed cement, battery powered wheelchairs and school books etc at least the rest of the world may have opened one eye to their plight


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: bobad
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:44 PM

Let me explain it clearly so that you will understand. The poster stated that the walls were put up for the same purpose. Since Israel put theirs up to help keep suicide bombers out the implication is that that was the same reason for the German wall, which is clearly untrue. But you knew that, it just doesn't fit in with your ideological position.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:46 PM

Palestinians are hardly the only people who have used suicide bombing as a tactic. And quite a few (possibly the majority) of the people who have were not Muslim.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:48 PM

bobad, suicide bombing is a response to foreign occupation (real or perceived). The civilians who are targeted are those who are represented by the government in question. In East Germany, the government in question was their own. So I ask again... who would they target?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:52 PM

CarolC
Yes, there have been, and still are many slimy governments.

And, you, like all of us, are intitled to opinions and personal measurement of slimy governments. But, I found your statement, that, "The Israeli government are just about the slimiest and most reprehensible people I can possibly imagine", (while eye-catching) does a diservice to all others directly impacted by slimy actions by governments.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
From: bobad
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:52 PM

Look, what I am saying is that the poster's assertion that the walls were put up for the same purpose is untrue - that's all.


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