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Time to move on

Alan Day 08 Jun 10 - 05:45 PM
Wesley S 08 Jun 10 - 06:19 PM
Leadfingers 08 Jun 10 - 08:05 PM
Alice 09 Jun 10 - 02:31 PM
Bert 09 Jun 10 - 03:38 PM
mkebenn 09 Jun 10 - 04:57 PM
Gurney 09 Jun 10 - 05:29 PM
Alan Day 09 Jun 10 - 06:31 PM
Rob Naylor 10 Jun 10 - 05:28 PM
Hamish 11 Jun 10 - 03:31 AM
Alan Day 11 Jun 10 - 04:49 AM
Collingsgirl 11 Jun 10 - 06:04 AM
GUEST,TJ in San Diego 11 Jun 10 - 03:53 PM
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Subject: Time to move on
From: Alan Day
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 05:45 PM

There are many bands and groups who have split up and moved on to pastures new and there has been a number of times during my nearly forty years in Folk that I have done the same thing. It is not normally other members of the group that makes you decide to change direction,although a great friendship can come under a lot of strain on tour. For me it has always been music direction that has made decisions for me. Morris to English Country Dance Band to French Dance Band, To Big Band to attempting to writing my own music to Duo and almost back to where I started. It is these changes of direction , new music and sometimes pressure that pushes you to improve ,but also keeps up the enthusiasm. Sessions can be the same where if you miss out a year almost the same tunes are being played when you go back.
Do you get fed up and move on or are you happy playing the same music over and over again?
Al


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Wesley S
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 06:19 PM

I'd be happy to play the same music all over again except that I moved to a new state and the rest of the band is back in Texas. I hope to get another situation started this year. My tastes range from bluegrass to old time to pre-war blues, jugband and singer-songwriter stuff. I'd be happy working in any of those contexts.But my change in direction was purely geographical.


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Leadfingers
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 08:05 PM

I've been Gigging with the same people for twenty years now , but we do a wide variety of mixed stuff ( Costume Theme) so we dont get stale , and all get along with each other !


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Alice
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 02:31 PM

When the venue of our weekly session had to move, it was never the same again. I used to be there almost every week, but things change. I'd love to find a dance band of American standards that I could sing with along with a folk song circle, but those opportunities just done exist where I live.


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Bert
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 03:38 PM

Well as my Dad used to say "Things that don't alter, remain as they are"

Your post kinda takes me back to I square dance club I used to attend fifty or more years ago.

It started off in this small hall that had a great atmosphere so it grew too big for the hall and had to move to a local school hall with a bad floor and bad acoustics. So of course people stopped coming. They kept switching back and forth and never did find a big enough hall with the same atmosphere as the small old place.

What State are you in now Wesley? (Notice that I did capitalize State)


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: mkebenn
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 04:57 PM

My brother played for twentyfive years in the same cover band. They were note for note reproducers, and very good. He left because the WOULD NOT learn any new music. Me, I play with myself, and I'll play anything any way I please, such as an accoustic semi 12 bar version of "Shut Down" that I've been foolin' with. Mike


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Gurney
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 05:29 PM

My taste in what I listen to has changed a lot from my early folkie days 40+ years ago, but unfortunately my ability to learn new songs has diminished significantly. This means that on the rare occasions that I sing, it is still pretty much the same old stuff, and I'm a little tired of it. Too.
I think (hope it is!) that just the part of my brain that deals with music is pretty much full.
I still enjoy singing or joining in with a roaring traddie song as much as anything, though, but only with the like-minded.
I just wish I was a good enough guitarist to play my current fancy too.


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Alan Day
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 06:31 PM

I can understand some liking to play the same music over and over again with the same friends, but it is like practising the same music over and over again, you just finish up by playing a few tunes well and as a player you do not progress and neither do the other players in your group.There are some fantastic tunes out there and the introduction of these tunes create excitement in some groups of musicians and they in turn go off and find their own new tunes to introduce. It keeps up the momentum you enjoy the new music and you and your friends are better players because of it.
One problem can be a dictator group or band leader, laying down the law as to what should, or should not be played. This stifles any individual who wants to introduce some of his own compositions or new music and eventually out of frustration moves on and others follow. A band leader has to be flexible, encourage others and be prepared to at least give new music, or direction a try.
I am very lucky to have met Will Fly a brilliant guitarist and we both enjoy our wide taste in music. We have great fun musically and out at gigs. I am playing a mixture of music and enjoying the trip.
Al


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 05:28 PM

Mkebenn: My brother played for twentyfive years in the same cover band. They were note for note reproducers, and very good. He left because the WOULD NOT learn any new music.

Reminds me of our last 2 Climbing Club dinner dances. At the 2008 one we had a band of young lads who normally played their own stuff, but agreed to do a covers set for us. I gave them a few examples from each decade from 60s to 00s that would probably go down well, but on the night they were quite happy to have a go at anything requested from the floor...never note-perfect, but well-played, with elan and enthusiasm that kept people dancing all night.

Last year we had to get a pure covers band...an outfit that played 60s music, note perfect. But a very limited selection...their set list was *laminated* FFS! They simply would not attempt to play anything that wasn't on the list. The dance was OK, but lacked the fire and spontaneity of the previous year.


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Hamish
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 03:31 AM

It the new stuff that keeps the old stuff fresh. I'm always looking for a new angle. Got hooked on looping for a while; recently taken up uke; joined a rock concert (now that's a challenge: having to learn "parts" and sing the right notes at the right time as part of a carefully scored arrangement instead of busking it). Hardest thing I've done in the last year is learn to sing unaccompanied. And that's been perhaps the most rewarding, too.


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Alan Day
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 04:49 AM

Something I have never managed to do Hamish, or talk. I can only manage a grunt, or I may blurt out the word change on a held note.
It is the new tunes that create the excitement and challenge for me and that has always been the case and you are correct that returning to the old ones you start to play them better because of the approaches you have learnt from the new experiences.
Al


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: Collingsgirl
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 06:04 AM

I don't know about moving on- I can't see myself ever tiring of acoustic music from the timeless standards to today's contemporary interpretations of folk music. Branching out, well now that's something else entirely. In a fit of insanity I bought a grand piano, nevermind I have no idea how to play it. I do have all this Bill Evans/Miles Davis/etc stuff going through my head now.

It appears I am suffering from an endless fascination with music and attempts to play it.


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Subject: RE: Time to move on
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 03:53 PM

Apropos of nothing in particular, the title of this thread happens to be the same as for an old Glenn Yarbrough tune from around 1964. Tom Petty has a completely different song in his bag with the same name.


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