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BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary

Riginslinger 25 Jun 10 - 02:52 PM
Kent Davis 25 Jun 10 - 11:11 PM
Bobert 26 Jun 10 - 08:16 AM
GUEST,Riginslinger 26 Jun 10 - 08:47 AM
Kent Davis 26 Jun 10 - 09:59 AM
Bobert 26 Jun 10 - 10:16 AM
Kent Davis 26 Jun 10 - 10:39 AM
GUEST,Riginslinger 27 Jun 10 - 12:11 AM
GUEST,mandatory8 27 Jun 10 - 01:58 AM
GUEST,mandatory8 27 Jun 10 - 02:25 AM
GUEST,Riginslinger 27 Jun 10 - 08:21 AM
Bobert 27 Jun 10 - 08:43 PM
GUEST,Riginslinger 28 Jun 10 - 01:42 AM
Joe Offer 28 Jun 10 - 01:56 AM
GUEST,Riginslinger 28 Jun 10 - 08:29 AM
Bobert 28 Jun 10 - 08:41 AM
Riginslinger 28 Jun 10 - 11:41 AM
Riginslinger 01 Jul 10 - 11:24 AM
GUEST,mandatory8 02 Jul 10 - 05:32 PM
Bobert 02 Jul 10 - 06:17 PM
GUEST,mandatory8 02 Jul 10 - 06:33 PM
Riginslinger 02 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM
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Bobert 02 Jul 10 - 09:01 PM
GUEST,Riginslinger 03 Jul 10 - 08:41 AM
Sawzaw 03 Jul 10 - 09:47 AM
Charley Noble 03 Jul 10 - 11:30 AM
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Joe Offer 05 Jul 10 - 09:46 PM
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GUEST,manmdatory8 06 Jul 10 - 04:35 AM
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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Jun 10 - 02:52 PM

"It is a misconception that most are hired by crooked businessmen..."

                   Anybody hiring an illegal alien is a crooked businessman.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Kent Davis
Date: 25 Jun 10 - 11:11 PM

Fascinating thread! So, if I'm understanding y'all, Alvin Greene's 100,362 votes in the Democratic primary were cast by Republicans. Great detective work, guys!

Have you figured out how the Republican leadership spread the word without the Democrats and the news media finding out until it was too late. Do you think they used secret decoder rings, or do you figure it was telepathy?

Well, anyway, we know it HAD to be motivated by racism. It was probably a white supremacist plot from Republican National Committee chairman, Michael Steele http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Steele er, well, I mean, maybe it wasn't him exactly, but anyway we all KNOW those South
Carolina Republicans only vote for people of Northern European descent like that Nikki Haley http://www.nikkihaley.com/ ...er, I mean like that Tim Scott http://www.votetimscott.com/...uhm, er...never mind.

Kent


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 08:16 AM

That is not true, at all, Rigs.... You have some very serious misconception about "illegals"... There are millions of "illegals" in this country with Social Security numbers, drivers licenses, homes, kids in schools, regular jobs, attending schools, paying their way and trying to live the American dream...

Man, you need to get into the real world, Rigs, and quit parroting the Tea Party company fight songs... If you arrested every businessman who has an "illegal" in this country, you'd have to build a couple thousand prisons to house them all... And what about sub-contratcors??? If a general contractor subs out a portion of a project and that sub-contractor employes anumber of "illegals" would you arrest the general conractor, too??? If so then I would imaging that you also have to arrest one shitload of government people, too...

Man, I worries about you, Rigs... I really do...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 08:47 AM

Yes, I've hired illegal aliens through sub-contractors without knowing it myself. And I'm aware of companies hiring illegal aliens with fake social security numbers--like that meat packing plant in Fremont, Nebraska, where the good people stood up and put a stop to it.

             None of that makes it right, and the board of directors of Tyson Foods should all be in jail--they send recruiters into Mexico to hire these criminals, so they can't pretend not to know they're illegal.

             I think we're on the way to solving the problem, however, thanks to Arizona.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Kent Davis
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 09:59 AM

But seriously, what if Alvin Greene's win is explained by this:
1. Senator DeMint is considered almost certain to be re-elected in the fall.
2. Therefore it seems to make little difference who runs against him.
3. Therefore there seems to be little point in devoting much attention to the Democratic primary.
4. Furthermore, the relatively few people interested in the Democratic primary may have thought of Mr. Greene as a vanity candidate who just liked seening his name on the ballot, but who had no chance of winning the primary.
5. Therefore no one campaigned against Mr. Greene (i.e., his "positives" may have been low, but his "negatives" were non-existant).
6. The combination of factors listed above meant that there was little reason for the news media to devote much time to the Democratic primary, which in turn meant that there was even less knowledge about the race.
7. Voters are frequently told that voting is not just a right, but also a DUTY. Believing this, some therefore vote in each contest, even if they know very little about the candidates.
8. Therefore a good portion of voters in the Democratic primary made their vote based on intuition rather than rational arguments, so things like the sound of a candidate's name or his placement on the ballot (which was alphabetical) became deciding factors.

Then again, maybe it was a vast right-wing conspiracy to prevent African-Americans from being elected by....uh, well...umm...by electing them. Yeah, that's gotta be it.

Kent


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 10:16 AM

One major question looms, Kent, that you did not address... Perhaps you'll be so kinda as answer it and that is...

...can Repubs vote in the S.C. Democratic primary???

Just a simple yes or no will do just fine...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Kent Davis
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 10:39 AM

Of course. How else could they have voted Alvin Greene in? Republicans certainly would not have bothered to vote in the hotly-contested REPUBLICAN primary when they had the chance to choose which Democrat will be defeated by Senator DeMint this fall. Now there's a strategy!
Kent


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 12:11 AM

And now the Republicans have nominated Tim Scott, and he understands how important the recent Arizona law is to out-of-work blacks.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 01:58 AM

ya know, I hear rationalizations from apologists for both parties, but either illegal means illegal or it doesn't. It doesn't mean "well we're making money off a few of them, so its ok." Illegal is illegal and either the law needs to be changed or it needs to be enforced. They won't change the law because they'd be tarred and feathered.
But they're going to let immigrants in, both illegal and record numbers of legal. You don't do that with 20% unemployment, unless you're purposely trying to drive the working class into poverty.
Where else do we have selective enforcement? for first time, non violent possession of "drug paraphenalia"? Not where I live, you're going to prison, Jack.
This is official misconduct by public officials, or what we laughingly refer to as our public servants, who take oaths to do their duty, to uphold the constitution. Both parties are ignoring the law.
when you try to explain this away, you're saying "yeah, he's a crook, but he's our crook," When you protect your crook, nobody's gonna listen to girlish whining about the other guy's crook.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 02:25 AM

speaking of millions of illegals flooding into the country unchecked, and Obama wanting to throw them an amnesty celebration, how long do think its going to take the black people in this country to wake up and see the betrayal of their elected "leaders" in the Democratic party, who are going along with this?
Or is this a mute point because so many of them are being warehoused in jails, or because the party doesn't need them any more?


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 08:21 AM

It sounds to me, mandatory, like they are finally waking up. For years they were fed that "Rainbow" shit from Jesse Jackson, and most of them bought it. But they've nominated Tim Scott and he's got a good chance of winning in South Carolina, and there's a black woman running for Congress in California with a similar platform.
                The old "get whitey" mandate of Jackson and Sharpton is being replaced by a bunch of "I can think for myself" black candidates around the country.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 08:43 PM

Interesting that these discussions never came up when the economy was humming from cheap labor but now that it ain't it's jump on the last guy in the pool??? I mean, I personally knew plenty of good ol' redneck contractors in the 90s who couldn't say enough good stuff about their *Mezkin* workers... Same folks now want to have 'um all rounded up and killed like they uis now the enemy??? Funny how things work out, ain't it???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:42 AM

The reason the folks passed Proposition 187 in California in 1994 was because they were tired of paying for a bunch of illegal aliens. It wasn't their fault that some Federal Judge rendered it unconstitutional and Gray Davis refused to appeal it. The people got even, though, in the end. They threw out Gray Davis.

                   I guess some folks just weren't payin' attention.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:56 AM

But what hasn't been proven, Riginslinger, is that the illegal aliens cost the taxpayers a significant amount of money. Most studies seem to show that what they cost is about the same as what they contribute.

The fact the voters in California had the perception that they were paying lots of money for illegal aliens is immaterial. What matters is whether they actually do cost the taxpayers money - and the answer to that question is buried in rhetoric.

It's true, though, that most illegal aliens are very poor. For all of human history, it has always been the practice of demagogues and bigots and politicians to make scapegoats of the poor - the bible story of dives and Lazarus is a good example. Why should our modern age be any more compassionate? We have a proud tradition of disdain for the poor to uphold.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 08:29 AM

"...and the answer to that question is buried in rhetoric."

          Folks who have something to gain on one side or the other will continue to produce studies that support their postition. Those of us who have suffered from the increase in illegal immigration make up out own minds. Many farmers, who benefit from illegal immigration still support the practice.

          The point here, however, was Bobert was asking the question: Where was all of this outrage in the 1990's. The answer, of course is it was alive and well, especially in California.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 08:41 AM

Yep, Joe... That's what has happened here... The disinformation has spread in such a wave of emotionalism that the truth has been hopelessy buried under the avalanche...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 11:41 AM

Yes, well, the people of California tried desperately to keep the state from falling into the economic morass that it finds itself in now, but the elites wouldn't have it.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 11:24 AM

It sounds like they're going to give it one more try.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 05:32 PM

It HAS been proven that illegal immigration costs the taxpayers a TON of money. Not necessarily everybody, and not necessarily on your federal income taxes. In a time of economic crisis, my mortgage payments have been going up about $500 a year for the last several years. That's local property taxes, mostly school taxes. A good chunk of that is influx of people from south of the border, and a chunk of that is hiring bilingual teachers. What gets my panties in a wad is that the feds aren't protecting the border and the states have to pick up the tab. Thats why you're seeing Arizona's new laws. Besides the property taxes, you could take a look at the hospital emergency rooms, programs like WIC and food stamps, and see who's using it here, and its costing somebody a lot of money, and I saved the best for last: look at the jails and prisons here. Not the federal prisons, but the state and counties. Its ridiculous how many Mexican nationals are here getting 3 hots and a cot, not to mention whatever damages or victims they left. When they simply shouldn't be here.
The border is a sieve, by design. I don't mind a few people coming over but its a flood. I don't mind the drugs coming over either, but look at the people bringing them now, and settling into the neighborhoods of our cities.
I don't care about a few bloods and crips shooting it up once in a while, but these new guys are dangerous.
So open those saggy eyelids, maybe with some crystal meth, fresh from Mexico, its been proven they're costing a lot of money.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:17 PM

So when Obama proposes that immigration refom get pushed in Congress, as he did again yesterday, nothin' from the usual suspects who curl up into their victim shell and blame everything that is going wrong in their lives on Hispanics??? Hmmmmmm??? Where were these mental midgets in the 90's whn everything was humming from an influx of cheap labor... Nar a peep out the usual suspects... Normal... That's why they call it hypocrisy...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:33 PM

Whoa, it has been proven that illegal immigration costs taxpayers a LOT of money. Not necessarily everybody, and not necessarily on your federal income taxes. In a time of economic crisis, my property taxes have been going up about $500 a year, this will be the third year running. Almost all of that is schools. Most of that is influx of people from south of the border. That includes hiring of bi-lingual teachers. Besides that, you can take a look here in Texas, at who's on programs like WIC and food stamps, or look at the uninsured users of hospital emergency rooms, or, look at the jails and prisons. Not the federal prisons, but the state and county. Its ridiculous how many Mexican nationals are in County jails here, getting 3 hots and a cot, not to mention what damage they caused to victims. They shouldn't have been here in the first place. That's all costing somebody a ton of money. Why do you think Arizona enacted that law? Just to be pricks? they're going broke. You may be rich, but I can't afford it, either.
The southern border is a sieve by design, and the constitution gives the federal government the job of protecting the border. They aren't and they haven't been, knowing full well those border states are picking up the tab.
Nobody's ever minded a few people coming over, but its become a flood, now, and extremely flagrant. I don't even mind the drugs coming over, they're cheaper and safer than pharmaceuticals. Its the people bringing them now that bother me. I don't care about the Crips and bloods shooting things up now and then, they're not very good shots anyway. But these new guys, the Mexican and cental American gangs settling into our neighborhoods are dangerous. That's going to cost somebody way more than money in the future.
This is irresponsibility of the government on the highest order, playing political games with people's safety by allowing this to happen.
Its costing American taxpayers a lot of money. Perhaps you need your droopy eyelids opened. Try some Crystal meth, fresh from Mexico.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM

"Where were these mental midgets in the 90's whn everything was humming from an influx of cheap labor..."


               See post June 28th, 01:42 AM


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM

I see, we have millions of illegals "paying social security taxes.." etc. While at the same time, id theft has become a major issue. How do you suppose that works?
and I need to take a pole or something: what does illegal mean? And what would happen to you if you broke the law?


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 07:22 PM

Some illegals with phoney social security numbers have money taken out of their checks, and that money is deposited into an account. Probably more illegals with phoney social security have money taken out of their checks that stays with the crooked employers who hired them in the first place, but more illegals than that work under the table for cash, or are employed on farms and ranches and paid piece-work, so nothing is withheld, and nothing is paid into social security at all.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 09:01 PM

Yo, mandatory....

Proclamations are just that!!! Proven??? By whom, pray tell??? Rush Limbaugh??? Glen Beck???

What a total crock of absolute bullshit and twisted rationalizations by a bunch of crybaby Republicans...

I mean, lets get the reality hat on here... WIC and Food Stamps ain't a blip on the federal budget... Now look at the surpluses that Slick Willie turned over to Bush... Much of that was fueled by cheap labor... The entire 90s economy was fuled by Hispanic labor... And guess what??? These folks will still work cheap??? Ain't that what you Repubs have always wanted??? I mean, cheap labor to bust up the unions??? Well, ya'll got it now and like the saying' goes, "Be carefull what you ask for"...

So fir ya'll now to be complainin' that all that cheap labor that fueled a decade of unprecidented growth is now costin' ya'' pennies on the dollar is somewhat hypocritical... Somewhat, Hell??? It's 100% bullshit hypocritical... It's kinda like slave owner mentality, come to think of it...

Google up WIC and Food Stamps as a percentage of the federal budget and ya'll see that this is the bullshitiest argument of all bullshit... Bar none... Just Republican immigrant hatin' talkin' points based on mythology...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 08:41 AM

It fueled growth for a short while, then turned into a huge money burning furnace that will surely end in runaway inflation.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Sawzaw
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 09:47 AM

S.C. Democrats refuse to oust Alvin Greene as Senate nominee

Washington Post June 17, 2010

Members of the South Carolina Democratic Party's executive committee voted overwhelmingly tonight against holding a new Senate primary, upholding last week's controversial win by unemployed veteran Alvin Greene (D) over former state Rep. Vic Rawl (D).

Rawl, who lost to Greene 59 percent to 41 percent, had brought his case before the committee tonight, but the 61 members present rejected his protest by a five-to-one margin. Rawl said in brief remarks after the committee meeting that he would not appeal the decision. Greene did not attend the meeting, which took place in Columbia and lasted for more than five hours.

For the time being, the decision means that Greene remains the party's nominee to face Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) in the fall.

But with several unresolved questions surrounding Greene's candidacy, the next step is unclear: South Carolina legislators and watchdog organizations have called for further investigations into the primary, citing problems with voting machines, a felony obscenity charge facing Greene and the issue of his payment of the $10,440 candidate filing fee despite being unemployed.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional pri
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 11:30 AM

Sawzaw-

Thanks for the update on Green's status as a US Senate nominee.

I was beginning to wonder when someone would mention him in this thread.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 12:48 PM

And not only that, there seems to be a growing number of black Republicans.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 01:09 PM

The problem, as I see it, isn't that tyhe Dems are stickin' with Greene as much as it is the mystery surrounding his nomination... That is still unresolved... No matter, the Dems could run Jesus Christ and DeMint would still win 'cause S.C. ain't exactly brimmin' with I.Q...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 08:13 PM

Actually, I can think of a whole lot of reasons not to vote for Jesus Christ!


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: pdq
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 08:26 PM

Yes, there seem to be quite a few Black folks running as Republicans this year.

Probably 12-15 just for the US House and Senate seats, including a retired general and talk show host Star Parker.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 09:46 PM

No, way, Riginslinger. I heard that Jesus Christ registered Republican last year, and nothing is going to break my streak of voting for Anybody But Republicans...


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 10:15 PM

My exact sentiments, Joe...


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 11:20 PM

May I say that Jesus Christ registering as a Republican is just another lie concocted by Republicans. :)


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,manmdatory8
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:35 AM

first of all, I have no party affiliation because both parties are corrupt beyond reason. They stuff their pockets, and play the american people for fools on any emotional issue they can. This is one. I would think that by the time you were in your mid twenties you'de be smart enough to see that. I've never seen such idiocy as people in this country dividing between party lines and attacking each other, While the Rockefellers and other thieves keep getting richer at our expense. Democrats and republicans both doing that, and it makes them sound like Rush limbaugh's little P-brain fried on drugs.
Does nobody here work for a living? There's a lot of trust fund kids in this town, but I thought most places you had to work for a living. Do you know what happens to wages when you flood the market with cheap labor? Do you realize what you get when you destroy the middle class of a country? You get a feudal society like Mexico. They have more billionaires in Mexico than there are in the US. Now they have warlords with their own fiefdoms and armies, because that country is so corrupt nobody is going to stand up for it. Why would they? Does anybody see the implication? Or do you have to wait for Obama or Karl Rove to tell you what to think?


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Mandatory8
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:46 AM

oops kinda went off there, The guy in South carolina? Are they using electronic voting machines there? That explains most of the voting anomalies going on. I know the politicians all say they're safe and can't be hacked, but of course a lot of them are investors in the companies that make them. Oddly enough independent tests find them very easy to hack. Who do you believe?


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:21 AM

Ah hummm... Gettin' just a tired of this "both sides are guilty of bad behavior" mythology because it is clear that the loonie right has the market captured in childish behavior...

I mean, let's get real here... The US economy is headed back into the crapper and most non-flat-earth-economists have been saying that the initial stimulis package was too small and are advising US to get another one going... And quick... But the loonie right wants to fight the deficit??? Fighting the deficit during a recession is lunacy... It's irresponsible... And it is a formula for an even deeper recession, perhaps a full blown depression... But the loonie right is going to use it's "minority rule" powers to push the US economy down as far as it can??? That, my friends, is bad behavior... There is nothing in the Dem trick bag that is in the same league when it comes to bad behavior... This isn't a matter of difference of opinion... The loonie right knows full well that cutting public spending in the middle of a recession when the private sector isn't spending is suicide for everyone... That bad behavior...

Now we have the Sovereign Citizens movement, also fueled by the loony right made up of the looniest of the right who think it's perfectly okay to kill government workers!?!?! They even hold seminars on anti-government activities!?!?! And guess what??? Give??? When a loony righter showed up at a rally where the president was going to speak with a bigass gun strapped on his leg and a sign that suggested that violence was perfectly okay the message was clear: HATE THE GOVERNMENT!!! And I don't recall the Republican Party stepping forward sayin' "Hey, ya'll, that's bad behavior..." Instead, in it's silence it sent a clear message that there is no bad behavior as long as it is folks on the right are engaged in it...

So now it has progressed to a movement that is out to kill government workers becuase the Repubs, who BTW hate not being in power of, ahhhhhh, the "government", are willing to stand by in silence while their goons organize to kill government workers???

So, as for those of you who might be quick to say that there's bad bahavior on both sides: Hitler said that the "people will belive the BIG LIE" and that's exactly what we have... The Repubs are all about the BIG LIE to get the power and the direct line to the corporate cash back...

That is the real story here...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:39 AM

It's funny Jesus Christ would register Republican, but I usually vote Green myself.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: pdq
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 10:20 AM

" They have more billionaires in Mexico than there are in the US." ~ mandatory8

Where do you get your information?

The US has at least 400 billionaires, Mexico about 10.

Add a few drug cartel leaders if you want, but that still means your statement is a bit silly.

"electronic voting... I know the politicians all say they're safe...but of course a lot of them are investors in the companies that make them..." ~ same

Name one.

I voted on a machine that was made by a company that was bought by the United Arab Emerits, but I don't think they hold any elective office in the US. Said machine also has a paper copy of your vote that you can check before hitting the submit button.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:10 PM

Most of the billionaires in Mexico are drug dealers and they don't want the competition to know where their assets are hidden.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:22 PM

"...they don't want the competition to know where their assets are hidden."

Or their asses...


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 10:54 AM

I don't understand why, when you're talking about illegal immigration, you even mention democrats or republicans. The gates were thrown wide open under the Bush regime. One of the 8 new US district attorneys that Alberto Gonzales got in trouble for was hatchet man Johnny Sutton, an old pal of Bush's, who was actually prosecuting border guards for doing their job. Its not a party thing, it's a cheap labor thing, for the corporations that own both the parties. There's congressmen in both parties being pressured by the people in their districts that are against amnesty. I can guarantee you there's plenty of Republicans that'll vote against protecting the border.
I can understand that, maybe, up in New England its not a big issue, but it should be for any body that works for a living. Man, what do you tell your kids if they ask you what illegal means?


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 11:20 AM

Wait a minute, speaking of the border, Why is there all this huge waste of time and money at airports, with what feels like German soldiers in a WWII movie asking for "Papers please", and taking your shoes off, while they look for whatever in the hell they're looking for. That's the biggest crock-o-shit I've ever seen, especially because if there actually were terrorists bent on destroying this country, its been proven, they can just stroll over the southern border, with thousands of others, with whatever bombs they prefer.
And if I know that, the heads of all those useless spy/security departments know that. If you don't protect the border, then why the harassment at the airports? The US is already on everybody's list of top 10 police states. and this is why the democrats are no better than the Republicans. they've had a chance to do away with this crap and its gotten worse.
I can't understand why everybody isn't protesting paying taxes to this government, when that's what they use the money for.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 11:22 AM

You can't put the people in the airports on the border. They don't speak English or Spanish.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 09:04 PM

oh damn, that was supposed to be per capita, and even at that......, lets see, USA, 1 in 750,000, Mexico, 1 in 4 million. Mybad.
OK, sorry, that was as lame as saying there's a lot of illegal immigrants paying into the social security system, but we can't quantify it at all.
But the point is the same, there's a big corruption problem in Mexico and it's kept people there poor. I'm not buying Forbes' numbers though, its a lot higher than 10.
But, numbers are just numbers, and nobody's answered this....
Say you're on a jury, and somebody's on trial for doing something illegal, what do you say?
"Well, don't worry, partner, illegal's ok in these parts, lets go get us a drink"
I might, but that's me.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 10:11 PM

Here's where it will go if you're not careful, Mandatory. Some dizzy idiot will come along and suggest that illegal aliens ought to be able to draw social security. Look forward to starvation with that one.


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 01:21 AM

The unique punctuation, the subtle mis-spellings, the rampant commas. I know who you are...


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:03 PM

mandatory8 asks why there's so much security at the airports. Gee, I wonder what happened on September 11, 2001. Just an ordinary day, eh?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:00 PM

And after the election, will Alvin Greene be able to hire on as a security guard at an airport. Probably not, because he has a history here--they have to hire foreigners that they don't know anything about and can't find out.


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