Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: breezy
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 11:07 AM

M C M B E is appearing this Friday in Watford.

Think its beeen mentioned, by me

deja vu time

bye

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: TopcatBanjo
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:49 AM

Lunatic back from the asylum.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Green Man
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:48 AM

Grunt

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 06:52 AM

Can anyone hear the sound of knuckles dragging?

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: GUEST,Mary Brennan
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 06:05 AM

I don't think Martin Carthy has written many songs, though I could be wrong.

I don't really think a music forum is the best place to make a point. Not that I object, but surely there are better places to make your views heard and make an impact on public life and politics?

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Smedley
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 02:19 PM

Lots of people care, but they might not want to hear such a dreary little song as 'Saltwater'. A song can have noble sentiments but still be desperately dull to listen to.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 12:10 PM

"Do songs inspire political change in England? Stiff upper lip and all that."


Well, I put 'Arrogance, Ignorance & Greed' on my Facebook page the other day, and I had more messages about it than anything else, ALL saying what a wonderful song it was and how it should be OUT THERE!

We NEED political songs as never before at the moment, as I'm TRYING to get the BBC to understand, on their Facebook page....

Yeesh! NEVER has this planet been in such a bloody mess! The Silence of The Good People has become DEAFENING!!

Where is Julian Lennon's 'Saltwater' song??????? WHY is that not being brought out again, played on every station, before they read out the latest news on what the Corporate Oil Bastards have been up to??????

AND...are you aware that our beaches are now starting to turn to plastic??????

Does anyone care?

Is....there....ANYONE....out....there??????

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 12:03 PM

Tom Robinson Songs...by the DOZEN to hear online

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:18 AM

""The monstrous fish", also refered to in the song about the broadsheet seller."

No, no...that would be momentous pollock - not momentous bollocks.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 07:29 AM

"Now a song about momentous bollocks - that would be something."

"The monstrous fish", also refered to in the song about the broadsheet seller.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 02:42 AM

They can contribute to changes in society and in the range of acceptable opinions, but that is not the same thing.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: GUEST,Mark Stevens
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 08:12 PM

No, I don't think so Richard, but some folk seem to get a bit upset and start up silly little groups .....

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:30 PM

Do songs inspire political change in England? Stiff upper lip and all that.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 12:22 PM

Well, the subheadline comes from a headline writer (and we all know those folks don't read the articles).

The article (I haven't watched the video) looks pretty good to me. I was trying to find one of the recent threads about the place of politics in folk performance to put a link to this... this thread title is pretty non-descript, for those who might have an interest in the topic (speaking of headlines...).

A clip to introduce the article:

"This week, Carthy will be one of the headliners at An Evening of Political Song, a likely highlight of Richard Thompson's Meltdown festival. Another is Tom Robinson, erstwhile pop star and now a 6 Music DJ. Only nine years separate them – Carthy just turned 69, while Robinson recently put together a rare concert to mark his 60th birthday – but they represent entirely different eras. Carthy made his name in the early 1960s folk scene, his interpretations of ancient melodies influencing the likes of Bob Dylan and Paul Simon. Robinson, a late bloomer, was one of the most politicised voices of the punk era, recording the landmark song Glad to Be Gay and leading the charge in Rock Against Racism. But as they sit down together, each clutching an acoustic guitar, they have much to talk about."

(I've made the link to the Meltdown Festival more direct.)

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: theleveller
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 12:03 PM

Now a song about momentous bollocks - that would be something.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Will Fly
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 11:59 AM

I yield to none in my admiration for Martin Carthy, but I can't bring to mind the songs he wrote that inspired momentous political change.

Quite. I'm very fond of the dear old Grauniad, but they do write momentous bollocks sometimes.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 11:44 AM

While I can't pretend to the pedigree of either, it makes me happier that I do some of the angry songs that I do do.

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: greg stephens
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 11:42 AM

The sub headline runs as follows: "Martin Carthy and Tom Robinson's notes on a revolution. They've written songs that inspired momentous political change – and suffered the consequences. On the eve of a Meltdown gig, Martin Carthy and Tom Robinson talk pop, punk and burnout"

Well, I yield to none in my admiration for Martin Carthy, but I can't bring to mind the songs he wrote that inspired momentous political change. The Guardian must know something I don't(which is perfectly possible).

Subject: RE: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: breezy
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 09:53 AM

He is appearing at the Pumphouse in Watford on Friday

Subject: Martin Carthy feature in the Guardian
From: TopcatBanjo
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 08:42 AM

As fas as I can see this hasn't been posted as yet...personally his singing is not my cup of tea but I'm sure there are many on here who might be interested in the attached clip featuring Martin Carthy from the Guardian's site:

Martin Carthy & Tom Robinson video interview

Tom Robinson comes across as a bit manic...