Subject: Lyrics to: From: RobPhil3@AOL.com Date: 30 Sep 98 - 11:27 PM |
Subject: RE: Lyrics to: From: RobPhil3@AOL.COM Date: 30 Sep 98 - 11:34 PM There are many more verses to this song than the ones listed in the database. I'm trying to collect as many as possible and would appreciate assistance. For example: here's a good one that is not listed: I have a gal and her name is Daisy When she sings the cat goes crazy with delerium and St. Vitus and all kinds of catalyptics please list any new verses you know or Email to RobPhil3@AOL.COM THANKS!! |
Subject: RE: Lyrics to: From: BSeed Date: 30 Sep 98 - 11:40 PM If Daisy isn't in the DB, then this can't be, either: One day she sang a song about A man who turned himself inside out And jumped Into the river Because he was so...sleepy. --seed |
Subject: Lyr Add: A HORSE NAMED BILL (from Bob Gibson) From: Art Thieme Date: 30 Sep 98 - 11:51 PM I had a horse and his name was Bill, When he ran he couldn't stand still, He ran away one day And also I ran with him.
He ran so fast he could not stop
I had a gal and her name was daisy
One day she sang a song about
I'm going out in the woods next year,
A shooting birds I am a beaut,
I went up in a balloon so big,
The balloon turned up with it's bottom side higher,
What can you do in a case like that, Bob Gibson sang this one on his Riverside LP ___OFFBEAT FOLKSONGS___ Carl Sandburg did it on Columbia. It's in his book AMERICAN SONGBAG (1927) |
Subject: RE: Lyrics to: From: BSeed Date: 01 Oct 98 - 12:07 AM Art, a couple of corrections: I am, I was, I'll be A great sharpshootress. And anything else that's helpless. I once wrote a song for my younger brother's 10th anniversary as pastor of a church using the tune and poetic structure: I've got a brother and his name is James; He's fond of playing egghead games Like bridge, and chess, And ring-around-the rosy. He knows his Bible inside out; He knows what sin is all about-- He's an expert, just ask him--what he can't tell you, He'll show you. After a verse about his wife, I put in one about his sons: Their union is blessed with three little boys Who never make excessive noise: They're sweet, they're polite, They sleep through all his sermons. I think I had two or three others. --seed |
Subject: Recording of Horse Named Bill From: dick greenhaus Date: 13 Dec 99 - 11:47 PM I don't need the words, tune nor chords, but I confess that I was baffled when my son asked me if I knew of a currently-available recording of this song.Art? Sandy? Anybody? |
Subject: RE: Recording of Horse Named Bill From: Willie-O Date: 14 Dec 99 - 12:04 AM Jerry Garcia and David Grisman recorded it on "Not For Kids Only". That's an album I'd recommend to any parents, or aspiring mandolin players--Grisman plays just lovely, tasteful, full-sounding simple 8-string parts throughout. Bill C |
Subject: RE: Recording of Horse Named Bill From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Dec 99 - 12:33 AM Hey, Dick, CDNow says there's also a recording of the song on a CD by Carl Sandburg - (click here). I think that's one CD I'm going to have to get, although I'll agree that the Grisman/Garcia CD is a classic. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Recording of Horse Named Bill From: Sandy Paton Date: 14 Dec 99 - 12:51 AM As Caroline told Greenhaus today on the 'phone, Joe, that Carl Sandburg recording was the one played for the class by her enlightened 7th grade teacher, lo, those many years ago. It was hearing Sandburg's growling voice presenting songs of substance, as opposed to the marshmallow fluff of "pop" music, that turned her into the devoted folkie she remains today. Glad to hear it's now available as a CD. Thanks for the info. I also agree with both you and Willie O. about the Grisman/Garcia CD. Sandy |
Subject: RE: Recording of Horse Named Bill From: kendall Date: 14 Dec 99 - 12:20 PM Sandburg wrote that , right? |
Subject: RE: Recording of Horse Named Bill From: Abby Sale Date: 14 Dec 99 - 01:40 PM Smith/Folkways; Sam Hinton: Whoever Shall Have Some Peanuts; Folkways 07530, 1964 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: A Horse Named Bill From: GUEST,Wally Macnow Date: 15 May 10 - 10:00 AM An mp3 file of Bob Gibson's recording is at http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/39311972/36b7a2be/sharing.html?rnd=38 |
Subject: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Mrrzy Date: 16 Jun 10 - 04:24 PM I found many, many threads that talk about the Horse Named Bill who when he ran, he couldn't stand still, which I've been re-listening to thanks to recently posted Offbeat Folksongs. The top 2 I found, Lyrics Adds both, list slightly different versions of the one by Bob Gibson on ObF. All of the others, pages of them, were various nonsense threads, but I didn't find the version I knew originally, which because it is simpler, I think is earlier. Does anybody know the progression of the different versions? This one is by Ed McCurdy, on his Children's Songs - Greatest Hits, and is actually called I Had A Horse, which I just realized. But having gone this far I'm going on before searching for that one... I HAD A HORSE ED MCCURDY, CHILDREN'S SONGS - GREATEST HITS I had a horse and his name was Bill And when he ran he couldn't stand still He ran away, one day, and also I ran with him. He ran so hard that he couldn't stop He ran into a barber shop And sat down, with his head, on the barber's right shoulder. In Frisco Bay there lives a whale And she eats pork chops by the pail By the hatbox, by the pillbox, by the hogshead, and the schooner. Her name is Lena, she's a peach But don't leave food within her reach Or toothpaste, or candles, or chocolate ice cream soda. I'd like to sit down by the brook Take a fishing line and hook And fish, for clams, and oranges, and bananas. And when I see a sign so near That says No Fishing goes on here I hunt, for buttons, for turnips, and for candy. See, head instead of eyeteeth, right instead of left, and nothing about eating babies or breaking the 10 commandments... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Mrrzy Date: 16 Jun 10 - 04:27 PM Aw pooh, blickies to searches don't work? The search phrase I used was Horse Named Bill. Not case-sensitive. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Tannywheeler Date: 17 Jun 10 - 10:08 AM Version I learned is a bit diff: 2nd verse: "He ran so fast he couldn't stop; He ran into a barbershop And fell exhaustionized, with his eyeteeth, In the barber's left shoulder. 3rd verse: "Oh, I know a girl & her name is Daisy; When she sings her cat goes crazy With St.Vitus', & delirium tremens, And all kinds of cataleptics. 4th "One day she sang a song about A man who turned himself inside out And jumped into the river-- He was so very(yawn) slee-eepy. 5th "Oh what can you do in a case like that? What can you do but jump on your hat, And your toothbrush, & your grandmother, And anything else that's helpless?? 6th "I know a whale & when she smiles You see teeth for miles & miles, And tonsils, & spareribs, And things too fierce to mention. 7th "Her name is Lena, what a whale!! She eats pork chops by the bale, By the bushel, by the schooner, And also by the pillbox. 8th "Her name is Lena; she's a peach, But don't leave food within her reach-- Or babies, or nursemaids, Or charklit icecream sodas." (It's possible that verse 5 was sung at 8 instead.) I associate my learning of this version with an Ed McCurdy recording, too. Tw |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 17 Jun 10 - 10:37 AM Working on memory (a dangerous thing at 63). This song was in Alan Lomax's Folk Songs of North America. I believe he attributed it to Carl Sandburg (an American Poet and sometime songster). If no one else knows for sure, I think I can find the book and be more specific. Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Mrrzy Date: 17 Jun 10 - 11:51 AM Plese, dear, this is an interesting progression... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 17 Jun 10 - 02:15 PM I know and used to sing this, having learned it from a Carl Sandburg 10 inch LP, translucent red in color rather than black. His words are very much like about half of Tannywheeler's version above. I suspect he knew and performed a longer version (maybe Tannywheeler's) but had to cut it to fit into a reasonable slot on that short LP. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Reiver 2 Date: 17 Jun 10 - 05:42 PM The note I have in my old loose-leaf notebook of songs that I used to sing says that I got it from Carl Sandberg's "American Songbag," and has the added comment, "The tune is 'Dixie" - a melody which could stand some new words anyway." I think I learned the singing of it from the Ed McCurdy record. It was my daughter's absolute favorite song when she was young. Our version went this way: A HORSE NAMED BILL I had a horse, his name was Bill, And when he ran he couldn't stand still, He ran away, one day, and also I ran with him. He ran so hard he couldn't stop, He ran into a barber shop, He fell exhausted, with his teeth, in the barber's left shoulder. Oh, I went out into the woods last year, To hunt for beer and not for deer, I am, I ain't, a great sharpshooter. At shooting birds, I am a beaut, There is no bird I cannot shoot, In the eye, in the ear, in the teeth, or in the finger. In 'Frisco Bay there is a whale, And she eats pork chops by the bale, By the hatbox, by the pillbox, by the hogshead, or schooner. Her name is Lena and she is a peach, But don't leave food within her reach, Or babies, or nursemaids, or choc'lat ice cream sodas. She loves to laugh and when she smiles, You just see teeth for miles and miles, And tonsils, and spareribs, and thingas too fierce to mention. She knows no games, so when she plays, She rolls her eyes for days and days. She vibrates, she yodels, and breaks the ten commandments. Oh what can you do in a case like that? Oh what can you do but stamp on your hat, Or on an eggshell, or a toothbrush, or anything that's helpless. I had a gal and her name was Daisy, When she sang the cat went crazy With delerium, and St. Vitus and all kinds of cat-aleptics. ************* As I recall, the last verse was not in the Carl Sanberg version. I'm not sure where I found it, but it worked well as a final verse to end the song. Reiver 2 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 17 Jun 10 - 06:19 PM This one still gets laughts, if only from my grandson. Does anyone recall another many-versed novelty number, "Thais?" Dedicated to an old friend, Jon Adams, who taught it to me in 1958 or '59. It stuck. One time in Alexandria, In wicked Alexandria; Where nights were wild with revelry And life was but a game. There lived, so the report is, An adventuress and courtesan; The pride of Alexandria And Thais was her name. Nearby, in peace and piety, Avoiding all society, There dwelt a band of holy men, Who'd taken refuge there. And, in the desert's solitude, They spurned all earthly folly To devote their lives to holy works, To fasting and to prayer. Now, one monk whom I solely mention, Of this band of holy men, Was known as Athanael, He was famous, near and far. At fasting bouts or prayer, with him, No other could compare to him, At grand and lofty praying He could do the course in par. One night, while sleeping heavily, While wrestling with the Devil he Had gone to bed exhausted While the sun was shining still. He had a vision Freudian, And, though he was annoyed he Analyzed it in the well-known style Of doctors Jung and Brill. He dreamed of Alexandria, Of wicked Alexandria. A crowd of men was cheering, In a manner rather rude; As Thais, who was dancing there And Athanael glancing there, Observed her do the shimmy In what artists call the nude. Says he, this dream fantastical Disturbs my thoughts monastical! Some unsuppressed desire, I fear Has found my monkish cell. I blushed up to the hat of me, To view that girl's anatomy! I'll go to Alexandria, And save her soul from hell! So, pausing not to wonder where He'd left his summer underwear, He quickly packed his evening clothes, His toothbrush and his vest. To guard against exposure he Threw on some woolen hosiery, And, bidding all the boys goodbye, He started on his quest. The monk, though warned and forified, Was deeply shocked and mortified To find, on his arrival Wild debauchery in sway! While some were in a stupor sent By booze of over two percent, The others were behaving In a most immoral way. He says, to Thais, "Pardon me, Although this job goes hard on me I've got to put wise To what I've come down here to tell. Cut out this pie-eyed retinue, What's all this sousin' gettin' you? Let's hit the trail together, kid And save your soul from hell!" Although this bold admonishment Caused Thais some astonishment, She coyly answered, "Say, You said a heaping mouthfull, beau! This burg's a drag, I'm tellin' you, The brand of hooch they're sellin' you Ain't like the stuff we used to get, So, let's pack up and go." So, forth from Alexandria, From Wicked Alexandria, Across the desert's sands they go, Beneath the rising sun, Till Thais, parched and sweltering, Finds refuge in the sheltering, Seclusion of a convent - In the habit of a NUN! And, now the monk is terrified, To find his fears are verified. His holy vows of chastity Have CRACKED beneath the strain. Like one who has a jag on, He cries out in grief and a-gon-y, "I'd sell my soul to see her do the shimmy once again!" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST,kendall Date: 17 Jun 10 - 07:31 PM I went up in a balloon today people on the earth looked like a pig, Like a mice, like a Katydid and also like little people. The balloon turned up with its bottom side higher I fell on the wife of a country squire She made a noise like a hound dog,like a steam whistle,and like dynamite. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Reiver 2 Date: 17 Jun 10 - 07:34 PM Strange! Just a few days ago, I posted the lyrics to Thais on another thread that was also a thread devoted to a different, though [I thought at least] similar song. Reiver 2 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Mrrzy Date: 18 Jun 10 - 10:53 AM Aha, an intermediate one, thanks, Reiver 2!!! (see, teeth is intermediate between head and eyeteeth). How about dates? Anybody know the date of Ed McCurdy's version, the Reiver2 version, and the version from Offbeat Folk Songs? Not to mention Carl Sandburg, who seems to be very similar to Offbeat? Although, sharpshootstress is an embellishment of sharpshooter, and I'm pretty sure that Offbeat went back to -er. Wonder if in a few decades it'll be simpler again, which would fit your usual Gestalt theory... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Reiver 2 Date: 18 Jun 10 - 08:16 PM Mrzzy, I'll see if I can find out anything. I'm not even positive that it was from Ed Mc Curdy that I learned that particular song. I knew that I had an old LP record of Ed McCurdy, but I just checked it, and A Horse Named Bill is not on that record. I think it's the only record of Ed's that I ever had. Some of the songs on it are ones I learned [Squid Jiggin' Ground, Lavender Cowboy, and Ballad of the Frank Slide to mention a few] and particularly enjoyed -- but no Horse Named Bill. I'll look some more places. Reiver 2 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Melissa Date: 18 Jun 10 - 08:34 PM I went looking for Oscar Brand and found: Kermit Jerry Garcia and Lubbock Lou and his Jughuggers (Muppets) It doesn't add much to the conversation at hand, but I enjoyed them. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Reiver 2 Date: 18 Jun 10 - 08:40 PM OK, I think I have it figured out. I don't believe I learned the song from hearing it sung. I'm pretty sure now, that I got the song from Carl Sandberg's American Songbag book. It must have had a simple score of musical notes, and I just used a piano to one-finger out the tune. Tt's not a difficult tune, or I'd never have been able to do it that way! Sorry to have started a wild goose chase. Reiver 2 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: dick greenhaus Date: 19 Jun 10 - 12:39 PM Sandburg seems to be the source. You can check it out at horse named Bill |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Tannywheeler Date: 20 Jun 10 - 10:03 AM Oh, Riever 2, bless you for the "Lavendar Cowboy" reminder. Hadn't thought of that 1 in a while. Too much fun...Tw |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Another Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Mrrzy Date: 20 Jun 10 - 08:59 PM I think that is a later version than the much simpler one I had... but maybe it's the other way around, and instead of embellishing, it's really been doing the gestalt-like simplification! WAY cool! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST,Dave Samuelson Date: 27 Aug 12 - 03:12 PM In the notes to his 1959 Columbia album 'Flat Rock Ballads,' Carl Sandburg claimed he learned 'A Horse Named Bill' from Red Lewis of Sauk Center, Minnesota, adding that the final verse came from George Sterling of San Francisco and "one or two other verses from an Englishman in Italy returning from a cruise in Bombay." Red Lewis was a nickname for novelist Sinclair Lewis, whose acidic novels about Midwestern morals and mediocrity widely circulated during the '20s; Sterling was a flamboyant Bay Area poet who proclaimed himself 'King of Bohemia.' However, this clever nonsense song set to the tune of 'Dixie' was closer in spirit to Sandburg's own "Rutabaga Stories" than anything the dour Lewis or pretentious Sterling ever penned. 'A Horse Named Bill' was almost certainly a Sandburg original. Attributing it to his deceased contemporaries was a private joke that the writer slyly enjoyed. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: kendall Date: 27 Aug 12 - 04:32 PM In Frisco Bay there lives a Whale and she eats pork chops by the pail, by the hat full, by the bucket full, by the hogshead and schooner. Her name is Lina and she's a peach but don't leave food within her reach, or babies or ---- or chocolate ice cream sodas. She likes to laugh and when she smiles you just see teeth for miles and miles, and tonsils and spare ribs, and things too fierce to mention. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: Mark Ross Date: 15 Dec 12 - 06:14 PM THE AMERICAN SONGBAG, well Sandburg published it in '27, and Sinclair Lewis was still alive then. Sterling died in '26. I guess the joke was on him. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST,W. Morgan Date: 09 Sep 17 - 12:46 PM I remember this song from when I was young. As I recall the whale didn't eat pork chops, she tooth picks by the bale ect.. but for the life of me i can't remember the other examples in that verse, I think truck load was among them. this was on a 45 that we played on the close and play record player. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST,Jack Warshaw Date: 06 Oct 17 - 06:13 AM Best version I ever heard was from my friend, the great Tom Paley, who has just died, aged 89. it seemed to fit his unique sense of humor. He'll be missed. Here's how I remember it, more or less. HORSE NAMED BILL Collected by Carl Sandburg, learned from Tom Paley I had a horse and his name was Bill And when he ran he couldn't stand still He ran away one day And also I ran with him He ran so fast he could not stop He ran into a barber shop Fell exhaustionized - with his eye teeth - In the barber's left shoulder I had a gal and her name was Daisy And when she sang the cat went crazy With deliriums - St. Vituses - And all such cataleptics One day she sang a song about A man who turned himself inside out And jumped into the river He was so very sleepy I'm going out in the woods next year I’m gonna shoot for beer and not for deer I am, I ain't A great sharpshootress At shooting birds I am a beaut There is no bird I cannot shoot In the eye, in the ear, in the nose In the finger I went up in a balloon so big The people on earth looked just like, a pig Like a mouse, like a catdydid Like fleasens and like flysens The balloon had turned up with its bottom side higher It fell on the wife of a country squire She made a noise like a locomotive, like a steam whistle And also like dynamite. In Frisco Bay there lives a whale And she eats corndogs by the bale By the guitar case, by the boxcar And also, if she can get ‘em, on blueplate specials Her name is Nellie and she’s a peach But don’t leave food within her reach Or nursemaids, or babies, or choc’late ice cream sodas Oh what, can you do in a case like that What can you do but stamp on your hat Or on your toothbrush, or your grandma Or anything that's helpless. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST Date: 14 Oct 17 - 10:10 PM My father’s version: I had a horse, and his name was Bill And when he ran, he couldn’t stand still He ran away One day And also I ran with him He ran so fast that he couldn’t stop He ran into a barbershop And he sat down With his head On the barber’s right shoulder In ‘Frisco bay there lives a whale She eats pork chops by the pail By the hatbox By the pillbox By the hogshead And the schooner Her name is Lee and she’s a peach But don’t leave food within her reach Not toothpaste Not candles Not chocolate ice cream sodas I’d like to sit down by the brook Take a fishing line and hook And fish For clams For oysters And bananas And when I see a sign so near That says “No Fishing Goes On Here” I’ll hunt For buttons For turnips And for candy |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Horse Named Bill - Know More?? From: GUEST,bigJ Date: 15 Oct 17 - 04:07 PM Tom Paley's version can be heard on his 2011/2012 CD "ROLL ON, ROLL ON - TOM PALEY'S OLD TIME REVIEW" on the Hornbeam label HBR0001 |
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