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Lyr Req: Muirland Meg / Moorland Meg

Mrrzy 21 Jun 10 - 01:01 PM
Charley Noble 21 Jun 10 - 01:04 PM
Mrrzy 21 Jun 10 - 01:50 PM
Jim Carroll 21 Jun 10 - 02:39 PM
Mrrzy 21 Jun 10 - 09:26 PM
Charley Noble 22 Jun 10 - 07:46 AM
Jim Carroll 22 Jun 10 - 03:34 PM
GUEST,Murray on Saltspring 22 Jun 10 - 03:53 PM
Charley Noble 22 Jun 10 - 04:49 PM
dick greenhaus 22 Jun 10 - 05:31 PM
Jim Carroll 23 Jun 10 - 02:50 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 01:01 PM

I copy here what I found at Google:
Subject: RE: Origin of 'Do It Again' - Steely Dan
From: Charley Noble - PM
Date: 01 May 03 - 08:29 AM
...the phrase "do it again" does remind me of the old bawdy song chorus which runs:
For a sheepskin she'll do it, she'll do it;
And for a sheepskin she'll do it again,
And for a cow's horn she'll do it at morn,
And merrily turn and do it again.

But I couldn't find it anywhere else, it's a great scottish song, help?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 01:04 PM

Mrrzy-

This old song was recorded on one of Oscar Brand's classic bawdy albums back in the 1960's.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 01:50 PM

Right, I'm listening to that, but I can't get through the scottish. The ball at Ballynore, luckily, is here (in the Forum, I mean)...


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Subject: Lyr Add: MUIRLAND MEG
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 02:39 PM

It's Muirland Meg, a version of which can be found in Burns' Merry Muses of Caledonia.
This is the one MacColl sang on the album of the same name.
Jim Carroll

17. . MUIRLAND MEG (Tune: Saw Ye My Eppie McNab)

Only a handful of Merry Muses texts have come down to us in Burns' own handwriting. "Muirland Meg" is one of these, and the present text is probably one collected by Burns' from tradition.
"Muirland Meg" is instructed to be sung to the tune "Saw Te My Eppie McNab", the title song of which is also to be found in MMC '59, p. 97. This latter song was undoubtedly the origin of Burns' song of the same title (Dick, Songs, p. 114). The tune has been traced back to 1742, but Dick believes that "From its construction it is much older than the earliest date named" (Dick, Songs, p. 394).
The present text was learned from MMC '59, p. 60 (originally from a holograph text in Burns' handwriting, but incorporating the chorus with which it appeared in MMC 1800). The tune was learned from SMM, #336.

1.        Amang oor young lassies there's Muirland Meg,
        She'll beg or she work, and she'll play or she beg,
        At thirteen her maidenheid flew to the gate,
        And the door o' her cage stands open yet.

        And for a sheep-cloot she'll do't, she'll do't,
        And for a sheep-cloot she'll do't;
        And for a toop-horn she'll do't tae the morn,
        And merrily turn and do't, and do't.

2.        Her kittle black een they wad thirl ye through,
        Her rose-bud lips cry, kiss me noo;
        The curls and links o' her bonnie black hair,
        Wad put ye in mind that the lassie has mair.
        And for a sheep-cloot etc.

3.        An armfu' o' love is her bosom sae plump,
        A span o' delight is her middle sae jimp;
        A taper, white leg, and a thumpin' thie,
        And a fiddle near by, an' ye play a wee!
        And for a sheep-cloot etc.

4.        Love's her delight, and kissin's her treasure;
        She'll stick at nae price, and ye gie her gude measure,
        As lang's a sheep-fit, and as girt's a goose-egg,
        And that's the measure o' Muirland Meg.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 09:26 PM

yay, merrily!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 07:46 AM

Jim-

Thanks as well!

The lyrics are now as clear to me as those of "The Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: Lyr Add: MOORLAND MEG
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 03:34 PM

Sorry folks - was intending to add a glossary, but neither the album not our edition of 'Merry Muses' have one, so, for what it's worth, here's my breakdown of the song - enjoy
Jim Carroll

1.       Among our young lassies there's Moorland Meg,   
       She'll beg or she work, and she'll play or she beg,
       At thirteen her maidenheid flew to the gate, (lost her virginity)
       And the door o' her cage stands open yet.      (and she's still at it)

chorus - basically means she'll do it for what you care to pay.

       And for a sheep-cloot she'll do it, she'll do it,    (sheep's cloth – sheepskin)
       And for a sheep-cloot she'll do't;
       And for a toop-horn she'll do't tae the morn,   (tup's horn)
       And merrily turn and do it, and do it.   

2.       Her kittle black een they wad thirl ye through, (kittle = humourous); (thirl = thrill)
       Her rose-bud lips cry, kiss me now;
       The curls and links o' her bonnie black hair, (link = length of hair)
       Wad put you in mind that the lassie has more.
       And for a sheep-cloot etc.

3.       An armfu' o' love is her bosom so plump,
       A span o' delight is her middle sae jimp;   (jimp = slender, small, neat)
       A taper(ing), white leg, and a thumpin' thie,   (thie = thigh)
       And a fiddle near by, an' ye play a while!
       And for a sheep-cloot etc.

4.       Love's her delight, and kissin's her treasure;
       She'll stick at nae price, and ye give her good measure,    (stick = stop)
       As long's a sheep-foot, and as great's a goose-egg,   (description of her 'equipment')
       And that's the measure o' Moorland Meg.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: GUEST,Murray on Saltspring
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 03:53 PM

Brand doesn't sing his slightly laundered version to the original tune, but that used for "Roll Your Leg Over" - which fits rather well. That itself seems to be the tune of a Dutch children's song, "Louisa" - does anyone know it??


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 04:49 PM

Jim-

Thanks even more!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 05:31 PM

well, it has been in the DT for some years now...


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Subject: Lyr Add: WAD YE DO THAT?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 02:50 AM

"but that used for "Roll Your Leg Over..."
MacColl's tune gives it a dignity it doesn't apparently merit at first glance - a robust bawdy piece rather than a 'dirty' song - a celebration of sex as distinct from a nudge-nudge. It's why I always prefered his versions rather than (I.M.O.) Oscar Brand's and Ed McCurdy's 'smuttiness'
I don't know if it's still available anywhere, but MacColl's 'Merry Muses of Caledonia' is well worth searching out (Dick?)
It was issued way back in the sixties by Ken Goldstein with very scholarly notes (and at a very high price, I seem to remember, so that it only fell into the hands of the 'genuine scholars')
Jim Carroll

Another example:
4. WAD YE DO THAT? (Tune: John Anderson, My Jo)

M'Naught (MMC 'll) referred to this piece as "An old song before Burns's time," It is certainly the original of Burns' song "Lass, When Your Mither Is Frae Hame" (Aldine, II, p. 156), which Scott Douglas referred to as "a silly paraphrase" of the present song.
The tune, "John Anderson, My Jo," dates back at least to the middle of the 17th century. It was certainly a favorite with Burns, who also knew it as the tune to a bawdy song of that title (MMC '59, pp. 114-115) on which he based his own song of the same name (SMM, #260), as well as the tune of "Our Gudewife's Sae Modest", another piece of bawdry collected by Burns (see MMC '59, p. 135).
The present text was learned from MMC '59, p. 122, and the tune from MacColl's father.

1.        Gudewife, when your gudeman's frae hame,
        Might I but be sae bauld,
        As come to your bed-chamber
        When winter nichts are cauld;
        As come to your bed-chamber
        When nichts are cauld and wat,
        And lie in your gudeman's stead:
        Wad ye do that?

2.        Young man, an ye should be so kind,
        When oor gudeman's frae hame,
        As come to my bed-chamber
        Where I am laid my lane;
        And lie in oor gudeman's stead,
        I will tell you what,
        He fucks me five times ilka nicht,
        Wad ye do that?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 03:20 PM

The collection is online.
Merry Muses of Caledonia


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For A Sheepskin she'll do it...
From: Snuffy
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 06:10 PM

It's the small words make all the difference.

If "or" actually equates to standard English "ere", then She'll beg or she work, and she'll play or she beg, means something like
    She'll beg sooner than work, and she'll play sooner than beg

And if "an'" is the equivalent of English "if", then If you give her good measure as long as a sheep-foot, and with the girth of a goose-egg is a description not of her own "equipment", but of the "equipment" that you must bring to her.


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