Art Thieme, Allen C.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Aug 99 - 04:55 PM

Rick, I was hoping it would keep people from using it in the future. You know, a threat. I figure with Sandy being a folklorist and all, the right thing to do would be to go 'collect' some songs from a local school.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 11:41 AM

Hi Sandy,

It's been a long time. Just discovered Mudcat discussion group through Art Thieme. Wanted to say re: folk music process, I second the motion.

I still have a picture somewhere of you, Valucha and I attempt to be a trio.

Best to Caroline.

Frank Hamilton (Also grandpa)

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 12:01 PM

Frank, thank you for the wonderful music. Any chance you might be hangin' 'round the "Cat" for a while?

Rick

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 12:42 PM

Thank God for Thread Creep!!!!! Really glad to have you here Frank, and please stick around but not on this thread........It's time for it's 3 month nap before returning to be argued once again!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 02:38 PM

Hey Frank, we are so glad you decided to drop by. I sent Sandy & Caroline email to let 'em know you are here and have posted in this thread. I hope you choose to stick around. You will find a lovable bunch of misfits, with big mouths and even bigger hearts. I count myself among that bunch with pride. Nice to have you around.

All the best,

Big Mick

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 02:50 PM

Frank, I'm gonna start a thread called---get ready--"What Was Lee Hays Really Like ?" I managed to see every incarnation the Weavers & throughout he seemed like a wonderful guy.

Art

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 03:18 PM

Hey-Ho, Frank! Welcome to the community! I clearly remember trying to make a dogfood commercial with you and Valucha. What a gas! Maybe we ought to start an "archival photo" section on bbc's Mudcat resources page. I'd much rather see pictures of us from those ancient days than gaze upon our present-day countenances. Tell me about the grandkids. ([e-mail]). I heard from someone that you are now in Atlanta. Is that right? We've got a lot of catching up to do.

Sandy

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 03:33 PM

Sandy, I love you Dad,and I like the idea of catching up through some private message things, but how 'bout you and Frank sharing a little (not all) of that with us and make sure Frank comes back to see us. Obviously a great addition to the place..............

Spaw (who values what he's learned of and from Sandy & Caroline and looks forward to Frank!)

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 03:45 PM

Amen, Amen, and a second, third, fourth and fifth ad nauseum to what my brother 'Spaw said. None of this keepin' it to yizelfs, dear friends. Lest ye be worried that we will be bored, I can assure that we will only be pissed if you don't share this recollectin' time with us nosy ass 'Catters. In addition to friends, you are inspirational for many of us.

Mick, who is right there beside 'Spaw.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 Aug 99 - 04:02 PM

Gosh, folks. Seems like if Art & me and Joel and Eddie and whoever else are having our own threads, why not start one for Frank? It'd make a lot more sense than posting all this here, don'tchathink?

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: joeler
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 02:24 PM

Allen, yes, Joel

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 05:23 PM

Hi Sandy,

Mary and I live in Atlanta GA now. We have seven grandkids. Four live in Florida, the other two in New England. Ages range from 5 years to 21 years old.

Many fond memories of us hanging out at the Old Town School of Folk Music in Chicago circa 1960 or so.

We did a concert there once. I remember playing the 12 string guitar. You were singing songs from a recent collecting trip that you did. One of the staples of the OTS student songs was the one you taught us, The Prick-e-lie Bush. Also, a version of the Two Sisters.

What a nice group here! Thanks to Art for telling me about it.

Frank

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 05:33 PM

Hi Rick,

Thanks. I'll be checking in from time to time. This is a great place. I love talking to old friends that I haven't seen in years and finding new ones.

Frank

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 05:54 PM

Welcome, Frank! We've exchanged some e-mail and been in some of the same newsgroup discussions. I'm glad you found your way to this wonderful place.

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 12:29 PM

Thank you so much Jeri! I'm honored to be able to share with this lovely group. It's refreshing to find that the "cats" aren't limited to the jazz world.

Looking forward to getting to know your music. Your website looks wonderful.

Frank

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 12:34 PM

Got it Spaw! But it's nice to talk to nice people.

Frank

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 12:37 PM

Hi Mick,

Thanks. I should fit right in. I've got a pretty big mouth too. Gets me into trouble a lot. Y'all seem like really nice people. Glad to find you.

Frank

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: JedMarum
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 12:53 PM

Wow - this thread started with a tempest, it seems to me, in a tea cup. Is it not as simple as Folk music is that which appeals to the Folk audience; thus it includes contemporary tunes written in the traditional style, and'or appealing to the Folk music lovers? Who cares how old it is? I would certainly never object to Greg Brown, Bill Staines or Norman Blake calling themselves folk singers, and their songs folk songs! Traditional folk is an adequate moniker for 'old' folk songs. Or am I making this too simple?

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 02:03 PM

Admitted, our teapot often runneth over. No big deal, just a favorite topic of conversation among friends.

Frank: Judy Collins recorded that "Prick-e-lie Bush" on her first Elektra album, along with a couple of others I taught her when we sang together at the Exodus in Denver. I got that version of "Ther Maid Freed from the Gallows" from Bert Lloyd in London. I haven't checked the Digital Tradition, but I'll bet it's there.

You're one grandchild ahead of us, but ours all live within a few miles of the old homestead, so we get to do a lot of baby-sitting! Caroline loves it! After an hour or three, I'm tempted to seek peace and quiet upstairs in the library. She has a higher tolerance-level for what my father used to call "the gentle ringing of childish laughter" (read: NOISE!) than I do.

Wow! It sure is good to be in touch with you again.

Sandy (realizing this would be more appropriate in a "personal," but the song info in the first paragraph gives it some justification.)

Subject: RE: Art Thieme, Allen C.
From: Frank Hamilton
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 07:00 PM

Sandy, likewise! Great to be in touch with you.

We hear a lot of that wonderful noise these days also. I love it when Mary and I sing in the Georgia schools and hear those wonderful children's voices. Sometimes they shout and sometimes they really sing.

Give our best to Caroline.

Frank