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Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer

Bert 30 Jun 10 - 08:22 AM
GUEST,Ed 30 Jun 10 - 08:34 AM
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MMario 30 Jun 10 - 08:54 AM
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Subject: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 08:22 AM

Spybot and Malwarebytes can't find it but I can hear it working in the background and it is seriously slowing down my machine.

Any ideas?


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 08:34 AM

I think that you'll need to provide a few more details than "I can hear [an evil bug] working in the background" to get any technical help....

Is that really the best description that you can provide?


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 08:51 AM

if you can literally hear it and your machine is slowing down it sounds as though one of the internal fans may be struggling to do their job.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: MMario
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 08:54 AM

The other thing it could be is a bad spot or spots on your drive. If you have disk diaagnostics try those....

A registry cleaner (ez cleaner is one I use) probably wouldn't hurt.

Ed - he provided a lot more info then a lot of my clients do...


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 05:47 PM

Where will I find EZ cleaner MMario?

I keep getting hits for other registry cleaners.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Tangledwood
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 07:18 PM

Do you mean that you hear hard drive activity when you're not actually using the computer? Mine does that and as far as I can tell it's the antivirus performing background scans.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 07:21 PM

Yes that's right. Hadn't thought of that. I'll turn the antivirus off and see if that helps.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 07:22 PM

Did you run scandisk and defrag?


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 07:22 PM

Yes.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 07:50 PM

Mine's making more fan noise lately, but I put that down to the hot weather, so the fan's doing it's job of keeping it cool! It is well ventilated, plenty of air space around it.
I've been using Norton utilities to clean and repair: seems to work well, tho' I must remember not to let it keep deleting my cookies!


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bernard
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 08:14 PM

How much RAM do you have? Maybe the swapfile is being overworked...


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 10:13 PM

It isn't fan noise. I've had that on another computer.

The swap file shouldn't be doing anything when I'm not doing anything. But I've checked task manager and all seems to be reasonable there.

Occasionally a process will start thrashing but that isn't what is happening here.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 05:55 AM

Occasionally a process will start thrashing but that isn't what is happening here.

So what IS happening? You're making it very difficult to help.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bernard
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 06:12 AM

The swap file shouldn't be doing anything when I'm not doing anything.

Define 'not doing anything'... just because you're not moving the mouse or tapping a key doesn't mean the computer hasn't got processes to run!

Unless you close down every process that's running (DON'T DO IT!), the swapfile will be in use.

Things you can do to help it:

Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance Settings - Advanced - Change (virtual memory) - System Managed Size - Set

This will ensure you've always got an optimum swapfile as long as there's room on the hard drive. You're not short on space on your hard drive, are you?

If you've got a lot of RAM - 1Gb or more - you can help things along by changing the Memory usage from the default 'Programs' to 'System Cache'.

However, you're not going to get very far unless you tell us well-meaning, helpful souls exactly what problem you're trying to solve, and stop biting people's heads off when they offer a stab in the dark!!

;o)


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 06:35 AM

Unless you close down every process that's running (DON'T DO IT!)

Why not? The worst that can happen is having to reboot.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 07:11 AM

My computer started making ominous whirring noises every time I switched it on. It just sounded like the fan going into overdrive.


Then I discovered that I'd left a CD in the disk writer/reader thingy. It was that which was making the noise. It's worth checking (even if you're not as silly as me!).


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: MMario
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 08:42 AM

http://www.brothersoft.com/ez-pc-cleaner-68724.html

above link for ez clean

Another thing; if you have auto-updates activated - there are LOTS of updates being sent out....


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Green Man
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 09:51 AM

download ccleaner from majorgeeks install it runit.

download malwarebytes from malwarebytes.org. Install it UPDATE IT and run it using in depth scan.

They will get rid of a lot of unnecessary stuff. The tchnical name for it is crap removal. CCLEANER has a registry cleaner built in, I have used it on a lot of machines and never had a problem. It gives the option to back up your registry before removing unneeded entries. Once all of this is done your next prot of call is task manager. Hopefully you won't need to use it. If you do PM me for detailed help.

GM


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Bert
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 12:17 PM

GUEST, I don't know how else to describe it.

There is a process working that shouldn't be there. It has only started happening recently.

Bernard, Thanks, no I'm not short of space on the hard drive. I will change the Virtual Memory setting and see if that helps.

Thanks for the link MMario.

Thanks for your suggestions everyone.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: Barry T
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 12:34 PM

Try this (free) utility. It's an always-on-top system monitor that reports bottlenecks in real time. You might work for a week turning things on and off to find the culprit. This program found my problem(s) in less than a minute!

http://www.moo0.com/software/SystemMonitor/

In my case the issues were my real-time hard disk defrag utility as well as the most recent upgrade to my virus checker, both of which were sucking CPU horsepower like crazy.


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 02:34 PM

The part of the question that's unclear is that we haven't been told how you know that a process is running when Task Manager doesn't show the activity. (And we haven't been told what OS you're using.)

If you hear noises, the only moving parts in most computers that can make noises are the fan(s) and drives. Hard drives and CD/DVD drives are both frequently audible.

If you have a cell phone nearby, and don't have a strong signal, we have one computer (of the three usually running) that "burps" every time the phone "seeks" the signal. The phone "pings" periodically and if there's no response, or the response is weak, it turns up the power and pings again. (It doesn't affect computer performance, but in our weak signal area the phone batteries run down rapidly.)

If you're seeing the activity on the hard drive "activity light" it probably means some background process is working. You might suspect your AV, although my Norton runs in background almost continuously and absolutely doesn't interfere with the computer. Some AV programs do pretty much take over the machine.

If you're running Vista, the default is to run a defrag weekly; but I've never seen an effect on performance, or even visible evidence that it's running. Defrag on older OS systems often are "intrusive" even if scheduled to run in background; and they often take a long time to finish.

On an NTFS hard drive, when you add/remove/move a file, the file address is recorded in the folder just as on a FAT formatted drive; but the root file table is later updated so that the NTFS drive knows where all the files are without going to the folder to find the subfolder to find the sub sub folder to find the file. If you make massive changes the background root index updating can be something of a "hit" on computer performance, and for really large changes the update can take quite a while. I haven't noticed a really objectionable degrading of performance, but there is a small but noticeable slow down.

In Vista you can choose to "index" a drive or folders on the drive "for faster searching" and the default is to make the index. If you add a lot of files all at once, the indexing can be intrusive, even though it's supposed to be an invisible background process. When I transferred all my files to a new computer, it took more than three months for Vista to finish the index (and search still can't find anything useful). If you "accidentally" turn on indexing for a new drive or for previously unindexed folders on a drive, you may see a performance "hit" for a significant time.

If you turn off indexing for a drive or a folder, Vista takes over and changes the "index" attribute on every file in the location before it lets you do anything (an hour or two for a moderately large drive that's well filled) but you'd know what was happening if you'd done that.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: There's an evil bug in my computer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 10:59 PM

"Mine's making more fan noise lately"

You have carefully removed all dust from inside the PC? :-)


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