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Whitby workshops, 2010

Jack Campin 30 Jun 10 - 07:01 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 30 Jun 10 - 08:19 PM
Mo the caller 01 Jul 10 - 04:22 AM
Valmai Goodyear 01 Jul 10 - 07:28 AM
GUEST,Jack Campin 01 Jul 10 - 08:10 AM
Valmai Goodyear 01 Jul 10 - 08:49 AM
GUEST 01 Jul 10 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,davemc 01 Jul 10 - 12:54 PM
Martin Graebe 01 Jul 10 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,PeterC 01 Jul 10 - 04:49 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 01 Jul 10 - 08:10 PM
Jack Campin 01 Jul 10 - 08:40 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 02 Jul 10 - 05:01 PM
The Sandman 02 Jul 10 - 05:48 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 02 Jul 10 - 08:42 PM
Cats 03 Jul 10 - 03:59 PM
Wyrd Sister 03 Jul 10 - 05:14 PM
Valmai Goodyear 03 Jul 10 - 07:15 PM
Cats 04 Jul 10 - 08:24 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 05 Jul 10 - 08:53 PM
Mo the caller 06 Jul 10 - 05:38 AM
Jack Campin 06 Jul 10 - 06:04 AM
Michael 06 Jul 10 - 06:43 AM
Mo the caller 06 Jul 10 - 08:18 AM
Jack Campin 06 Jul 10 - 08:28 AM
GUEST,Selby 06 Jul 10 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,Selby 06 Jul 10 - 09:01 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 06 Jul 10 - 12:51 PM
John Routledge 19 Jul 10 - 05:44 AM
Geoff the Duck 19 Jul 10 - 08:08 AM
Valmai Goodyear 20 Jul 10 - 06:54 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 20 Jul 10 - 09:25 PM
Jack Campin 21 Jul 10 - 10:24 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 21 Jul 10 - 12:49 PM
The Sandman 21 Jul 10 - 01:20 PM
GUEST,folkiedave 21 Jul 10 - 03:47 PM
Jack Campin 21 Jul 10 - 04:01 PM
Michael 21 Jul 10 - 05:35 PM
Jack Campin 23 Jul 10 - 08:02 AM
Wyrd Sister 23 Jul 10 - 08:17 AM
Ann N 23 Jul 10 - 08:53 AM
Jack Campin 26 Jul 10 - 05:14 PM
Mo the caller 27 Jul 10 - 04:05 AM
GUEST,Lynn W 27 Jul 10 - 06:57 AM
Wyrd Sister 27 Jul 10 - 07:09 AM
Jack Campin 27 Jul 10 - 07:15 AM
Wyrd Sister 27 Jul 10 - 01:56 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 30 Jul 10 - 10:10 PM
Jack Campin 31 Jul 10 - 08:14 AM
Noreen 31 Jul 10 - 09:22 AM
Valmai Goodyear 31 Jul 10 - 09:29 AM
Noreen 31 Jul 10 - 10:44 AM
Mo the caller 04 Aug 10 - 01:48 PM
Valmai Goodyear 06 Aug 10 - 08:48 AM
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Subject: Whitby workshops
From: Jack Campin
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 07:01 PM

Could somebody give me an idea who's doing workshops at Whitby (mainly instrumental music and dance) and on what? The website lists a lot of singers, some bands and dance callers, but nothing that would give me any idea about workshops. For example, anything at all from Eastern Europe?

When do I get the detailed programme? (I've bought a full-week ticket).


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 08:19 PM

Just be a little patient Jack.
I have no doubt the powers that be will give you the chance to have your very own programme at least a month before the festival.

I would be surprised if there was not something from eastern Europe in and amongst the mix - whether it be song, music or dance I would not know.

Just be prepared to be pleasantly surprised!


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 04:22 AM

I was speaking last year to the person who does the website, she says that if they give her the information she will put it up for us.

It really annoys me that we can't order our programme when we book our ticket.It would save 2 letters and 2 stamps (they write and say send the postage, we write back sending postage - I'd rather give them a bit extra when I book).


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 07:28 AM

This may be tempting fate, but Spare Parts have been asked to do concertina part-playing sessions again this year. For an idea of what we do, see our website for the tunes we are taking to the Folkstation Festival on the Isle of Wight from 9-11 July. These are three-part arrangements of traditional tunes; you can download them in pdf, midi or Noteworthy Composer form.

Valmai


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 08:10 AM

I thought a mailed-out programme was included in the ticket price?

The Spare Parts stuff would be fine if a clarinet counted as a kind of concertina...


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 08:49 AM

Actually these arrangements would suit any melody instrument, but a festival offers the opportunity to produce the special sound of a lot of concertinas playing together.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 09:43 AM

There's usually a band workshop run by Robin Garside and Sam Pirt - it may be on this year.from 10 - 11.30am


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,davemc
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 12:54 PM

"I thought a mailed-out programme was included in the ticket price?"

Nope. Ticket holders are normally sent a letter when programmes are ready and you then either send them an appropriately stamped envelope, for one to be dispatched to you, or pick up a programme on your arrival when you swap your ticket for wristband.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Martin Graebe
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 04:05 PM

We (that's Martin and Shan Graebe) won't be doing instruments or dance, I'm afraid, but Shan will be doing a workshop for singers (and anyone else, I guess) on the Sunday morning about 'How to handle your nerves'. On Tuesday I will be leading a workshop 'Finding out about folksong' - some of the basics of folksong research. On Wednesday Shan (who is a qualified speech and language therapist) will lead an open forum on the voice for people to bring their problems, ideas or just chat about using the voice for song or in other exposed situations (like teaching!). Then on Friday we will be teaching some songs from the Baring-Gould collection to them as wants them.

We're looking forward to it - and looking forward to seeing you all somewhere during the week.

Martin


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 04:49 PM

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swap your ticket for wristband
[/quote]
Wristband? Is this new this year or is davemc getting his festivals mixed up?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 08:10 PM

Well - you've done again Jack.

Lots of response - lets see if we can make a stab at answering some of the points raised.

Wristbands - hopefully davemc does have his festivals mixed up.

Mo and paying for the postage in advance - great idea except!

how do you determine the price?

what about people who don't know where they will be when the programme is ready?

what about overseas visitors?

etc, etc?

"they" of course can never be right!

and finally (for now) the reason that Whitby has never issued tickets in advance is because people have a habit of misplacing their "safe place"!!

cheers


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 08:40 PM

You know the postage price, since you know what the programme weighs and how big it is. We don't. Can I just send an SAE now? Will an A4 manila envelope do it?

Tickets in advance don't matter, I can see the point of making them collect-only. (Some places ask you to bring along the card used to pay for tickets as ID - I hope you don't, since I've long since forgotten which card it was and some will have expired and been replaced).

Martin and Shan's events sound good. I've heard Martin talk before.

The sort of reason why getting the info as soon as possible is helpful: suppose somebody's running a workshop on Swedish music. I have played that, but not for a long time. If I knew it was coming I could make the effort to get up to speed on it again. For other things, advance warning would allow people to get appropriate instruments fixed up, buy the right dance shoes and break them in, learn a new ballad or story, etc.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 05:01 PM

Jack please understand I am no longer part of Whitby Folk Week - just trying to help! Those involved will be far too busy to respond or even pick up your thread. You must have understood that by placing your question in the public domain via Mudflap.

Please take my word for it that knowing the weight of the programme is not always possible - or second guessing the Royal Mail. Doubling the cost of most postage by underhand means came almost out of the blue.
Very few people actually realised this was the case and the vast majority were quite shocked when they found out.

You could send a stamped addressed envelope at any time I suppose - it will not get the programme printed any sooner!

Whitby Folk Week normally encompasses around 600 events as opposed to the 20 or so maximum of the average weekend do so obviously the finalising of things takes far longer, not withstanding the time and effort involved.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 05:48 PM

hello, Malcolm.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 08:42 PM

hello Dick


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Cats
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 03:59 PM

Can't wait to hear Shan and Martin again. worth the drive from Cornwall


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 05:14 PM

Cats, does that mean you're going to Whitby this year, or that you like them so much you'd drive a long way to hear them?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 07:15 PM

The Graebes did an excellent evening for us at the Lewes Saturday Folk Club last week.

Valmai


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: Cats
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 08:24 AM

It means I am going to Whitby! Am going to Moira Furnace Fesival on the way as it is a long drive on your own from Cornwall to Whitby and will be arriving at Whitby on Sunday night. I'd still drive a long way to see them but not quite that far


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 08:53 PM

Is that it then?

Can I stop keeping an eye on this thread?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Mo the caller
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 05:38 AM

If I say yes then that makes the answer No


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 06:04 AM

I still don't know how to go about getting a detailed programme as soon as possible. I assumed I'd just be sent one (at that ticket price you'd expect it to be included) but it seems not - there's nothing at all on the site about programme availability, and certainly nothing about this protocol of sending SAE's that people here have mentioned. Do I have to keep checking the website for announcements? Can somebody post here when it's available saying what the size and postage will be and where the SAE ought to be sent (Bradford, I guess)?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Michael
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 06:43 AM

Jack,from previous year's experience, if you've booked a ticket you will soon receive a letter with information as to what to do on arrival and a request to send an SAE if you want your programme in advance.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Mo the caller
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:18 AM

i always think that the ticket price at Whitby for a full week is very reasonable, compared with weekend festivals.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:28 AM

It is reasonable.

It would be even more reasonable if they charged a few pounds more to cover posting a programme out in advance.

Meanwhile if anybody knows of other things that will be happening and aren't mentioned anywhere public yet, can they post them here?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Selby
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:53 AM


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Selby
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 09:01 AM

i really do not understand what your problem is in previous years you get a flyer telling you that the programme is printed and what to do to get one or when you arrive you get with your season ticket a programme. The people who run whitby do it as a hobby they have jobs during the day there are loads of events to fit in during the day and not have artists running about.
If you wish to pay the correct price for the postage then wait adding a fiver onto the season ticket price may be to much for some people who have to scrimp and save to afford to go.
It has beenm explained patiently what the format is and reasons are for what happens. in effect as the merecat says its simples.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 12:51 PM

So there you have it Jack!

Suppose I will have to keep watching????????????


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: John Routledge
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 05:44 AM

Just got the pre-festival newsletter which says that programmes are available now, free for season ticket holders.

If however the programme is required in advance an SAE is required as mentioned earlier.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 08:08 AM

Jack - with a season ticket, you can probably find events to attend through the whole week without going beyond the "official" programme.
That said, there are assorted things happen round the fringes which are not official events. Some of them are found in the same location every year and may be organised independently or simply because the same people like spending time at a particular pub, so the same sort of music or song is found there year to year.
I am aware from your postings that you are a musician with varied interests. One you might like to check out is The Elsinore. The music there ranges from early English through Irish, Modern English and American and can include ragtime, Mozart and other unpredictable content.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 06:54 AM

We've just been told that Spare Parts are definitely doing the concertina part-playing workshops again, so we'll make the music available very soon.

We're also playing in a Sussex concert at some stage, so I'm poring over our settings of tunes from Sussex manuscripts and songs. Sussex By The Sea has got to go in there somewhere.

Valmai (Lewes)


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 09:25 PM

I'm still watching.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 10:24 AM

I got the letter saying the programme was available and have sent off an SAE.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 12:49 PM

Well there you are then.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:20 PM

jack Campin ,SATISFIED, pigs will be flying next, well done,Malcolm.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,folkiedave
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:47 PM

For those interested in such things - there will be previously cherished books on folk music for sale in the craft centre. I do hope 'catters will identify themselves.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 04:01 PM

I might have Something Entirely Different to sell - there's nothing about getting a stall on the website, I presume it can be arranged on the spot if I need one?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Michael
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 05:35 PM

Jack, on the Whitby site click on 'contacts' and there is a contact for the craft fair, which is where the stalls are.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 08:02 AM

Got it. Lotsa stuff going on. It'll take a while to work out exactly what we'll be going to.

Is there any video on the web showing events at the various venues?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 08:17 AM

Try searching YouTube - I've no idea though.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Ann N
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 08:53 AM

I'm planning on going to the 'Early Music' workshop, it was one of the few things I got to last year and was great fun and really interesting. Apart from that it's going to be lots of sessions, catching up for the last couple of years when other more important matters took priority. The little plump concertina player is back :)


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 05:14 PM

I see two big-instrumental-group events listed: the "Village Band" and the "Festival Orchestra". From what Dave Townsend is into, I think I can work out what the Village Band's going to be about. What's the Festival Orchestra aiming to do?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Mo the caller
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 04:05 AM

Who's running it. We went to one organised by Sam Pirt (I think) a few years back.
We were given 3 part arrangements of folk tunes to play from the dots, so take your music stand.

Wouldn't be space to have all the people who want to go and play together in one venue, and it gives a different time slot for people with 'can't miss' clashes on the programme. (11.30 is always the '3 places at once' moment for us)

No-one has sent me a programme, or any invitaation to get one. I was waiting patiently as befits a W in an A-Z society, but I feel neglected.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Lynn W
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:57 AM

Just got my programme - wot, no Bop till You Drop? can't believe it, it's been the highlight of my week for nearly 20 years!


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 07:09 AM

No prog yet - does anyone know if there's a Themed ceilidh please, and if so, what it is?
Ann - I expect attendance on Mon/Wed/Fri!


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 07:15 AM

The theme is "Motown", of all things.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 01:56 PM

Thanks Jack


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 30 Jul 10 - 10:10 PM

So pleased Jack has his programme.

Re his video question I can only repeat what has already been pointed out that the festival is a huge undertaking organised by people who are essentially volunteers with full time responsible jobs, so don't be silly.

For those lacking communications I sent a postal package correctly stamped and addressed fifteen days ago and it has still not arrived - but then apparently Royal Mail are currently losing 1.5 MILLION letters per day if reports are to be believed.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 08:14 AM

There are quite a lot of videos of the Folk Week on YouTube already, so I don't get "don't be silly". (Most of the ones I've found were shot outdoors). It would make them a bit more accessible if somebody organized them into a playlist, and that's the sort of task a lot of people like doing.


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Noreen
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 09:22 AM

Go on then, Jack!


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 09:29 AM

Getting back to the subject of Whitby workshops, I'll start another thread about the Spare Parts concertina ones as Bryan has just put the tunes on the band website for downloading.

Valmai


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Noreen
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 10:44 AM

That's great,thanks, Valmai- I've just printed them out. :)


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Mo the caller
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 01:48 PM

I noticed in previous years there was an accordian workshop for beginners, but I didn't have one then.

Now I have, I've been looking forward to the workshop all year, but I can't find one in the programme. Has anyone got better eyes than mine. is it hidden among all those mouth-watering events somewhere?


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 08:48 AM

The gallant webmaster has put a link to our concertina music from the Programme page of the Festival website. Many thanks!

Valmai


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Subject: RE: Whitby workshops, 2010
From: Cats
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 01:15 PM

Is there a carols workshop this year? If so when and where cos I'm not arriving till late sunday night and don't want to miss it if it happens to be on MOnday before I get out to pick up my programme.


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