Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier

Subject: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Jul 10 - 11:53 AM

here is a recording of this song on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAeV6EfzEs

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 07:27 AM

there is also a version by downes and beer,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViD49JqfjrQ&feature   on you tube

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 10:10 AM

I prefer your version Dick, but I don't think you need that rambling introduction or to show your CD. It's Youtube, not a daytime talk show with Terry Wogan. Good version though. Do you live in a log cabin btw?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 11:34 AM

C Jones, fair enough.
no I dont live in a log cabin,I live in a 19 century traditional stone farmhouse.
in my humble opinion this song doesnt need to be sung too fast, plus all that stuff about her husband John[who needs to know his name]is a bit of a mouthful to sing.
here is another version BrianPreston[aka Brian Dewhurst]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKcgz4RQ5rs&feature=related

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 12:55 PM

A 19 century traditional stone farmhouse?

I have it on good authority that stone farmhouse's ceased to be authentically 'traditional' between 1720 - 1736 (the end of the Safavid empire) and anything after that is actually a 'nu' stone farmhouse, or 'alt' stone farmhouse if it were built with a banjo.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 01:07 PM

re your anguish at her husband John. Reminds me of Willie O' The Winsbury which potters along well until the king's daughter's name turns out to be Janet, which as well as being an un-poetic and harsh sounding name, also sounds, to my ears anyway, like a character from a 1970's episode of Crossroads or Emmerdale Farm.


Will ye mairrie my dochter Janet
By the truth o your richt haun?
Or will ye marrie my dochter Janet
An A'll mak ye a laird o the laun

O A will mairry yer dochter Janet
By the truth o my richt haun
An I will mairry yer dochter Janet
But the de'il tak aa yer laun

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: Tootler
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 06:24 PM

I liked your version too Dick, though I do agree that it would have been better to have gone straight into singing the song. Some that info about guitar tuning etc. could have been added to the written description you give when you upload the song.

I agree with you that the song is better sung at a steady tempo rather than the up tempo approach taken by the other two performances featured in this thread.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:12 AM

I did not comment om the other performances, tempo is a very subjective decision.
fair comment Tootler, but I have been criticised by others[on other occasions] for not showing what i am doing.
so I thought showing the guitar might be helpful to aspiring guitarists

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: Tootler
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 08:31 PM

I did not comment om the other performances, tempo is a very subjective decision.

True, but I was really just expressing a personal preference. I see no problem in that, I had no intention of denigrating the other performances.

I thought showing the guitar might be helpful to aspiring guitarists

An excellent idea and very useful. I generally find it interesting to watch what performers are doing in these videos. I was really suggesting that some of the technical details - key, tuning, stylistic matters etc. might be more useful in the description of the video where someone watching can more easily refer back to them while watching the video. The video itself then focuses entirely on the song, though there is certainly no harm in a brief introduction to the song and even, dare I say, a little bit of a plug for your CD.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 07:15 AM

yes, Tootler ,I agree with you.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: pavane
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 07:32 AM

This broadside from around 1660 may be of interesttttttt


a new Ballad of the Souldier and Peggy

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: pavane
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 07:35 AM

Oops - sticky key!

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:01 AM

thats intersting , difficult to read, but does the husband forgive peggy?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: pavane
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:08 AM

Yes he does (unlike our version) - there are two other prints, one is clearer, and the other is later. Just search the collection for Peggy and you can find them.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: pavane
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:11 AM

Here is a link to the Bodley search page

Note that the navigation links on the results pages DO NOT WORK! They used to, but it looks like someone has now mucked up the code.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: olddude
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:14 AM

Ya did good Dick, that is a fine rendition .. I love it

Dan

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Peggy andTheSoldier
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 01:38 PM

thankyou OLD DUDE,I have just been sitting out in the sunshine playing it is a lovely sunny evening here in West Cork, been playing a bit of concertina too