Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010

Subject: Hull Maritime Festival 2010THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:24 PM

I hope I am not breaking the Official Secrets Act by posting the news on Mudcat but the Hull Maritime Festival, previously known as Hull Shanty Festival and also Sea Fever, is due to take place this weekend.
It usually takes place at the beginning of September but has been moved to coincide with the finish of the Round the World Yatch Race.

It has some very,very good performers in its line up and all of them can be seen for free in different venues around the Marina and in Old Town pubs during the daytime. There are concerts on the Saturday and Sunday nights which cost £5 but usually there is also an unofficial singaround in one of the pubs so it could be a completely free festival (if you don't count the cost of beer).

It is run by the city council and publicity has never been the festival's strong point so you may never have realised that the festival existed (even if you live in Hull).

Information about the Festival can be seen

HERE

And HERE

The guest list on the Council's official festival publicity does not include the,perhaps,most well-known performer who is coming, John Connolly, who wrote Fiddlers Green and many other well known songs (although it does have a picture of him ???) Also missing from the official guest list are the excellent trio, The Young'uns.
There are also photo of Danny Spooner and Bob Webb on the Council's publicity so I think they are also two more of the secret guests.
If you use both links you will get a fuller picture of who is on, and when.

Usually just before the event someone produces a detailed programme of the pubs and dockside venues where the performers can be seen during the daytime. If I get sight of it I will post it here - or if someone else manages to catch a glimpse perhaps they will do it for us.
STOPPRESS:
While I have been composing this message someone else has posted on Mudcat to announce that also in Hull that weekend is the Hull Busking Trail which will have numerous other performers who willbe performing for free around the city Information Here
Oh and there is also a Jazz Festival in the Marina area.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010THIS WEEKEND
From: 8_Pints
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:51 PM

Thanks for that Geoff, but we should be at Saddleworth with the "Hissyfitters"!

See you soon.

Bob & Sue vG

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010THIS WEEKEND
From: ossonflags
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 01:26 AM

Not forgetting that excellant group "Owd Chyvers"!!!

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: r.padgett
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 04:19 AM

Will someone grab the powers that be (not Shanty Jack) by the short and curlies and tell 'em that dates MUST NOT be changed year on b***y year as Folkies have proper diaries!!

Clashes of the magnitude of at least 3 festivals same weekend in short distance cause total havoc

Frankly I am pretty fed uo with ppl who are unable to work with others in simple courtesy of telling each other what the f""£ they are doing bookings wise!! and not just at 'Ull!

I am pretty au fait with whats going on and ~ well maybe I am paranoid, but come on fair play all round!!

We have finite audience who have long pockets and short arms anyway

Ray

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Tyke
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 05:39 AM

Calm down Ray never known you this worked up! I have had a word with King Knute and he has promised to turn the tide. Now having spoken to the Top Man he has told me that he will do his best to change the tide's.

Now you must have a Look at the Website and you will see why subject to wind an tide is relivant.

"The performers will welcome back crews to the city from their 35,000 nautical mile journey in the Clipper 09-10 Round the World Yacht Race, at the race finish event which also incorporates Hull's renowned Jazz and Maritime festivals, with performances across the marina and city centre, including displays from the Red Devils Freefall Parachute Team and the Black Cats Helicopter Team (for full see www.hullcc.gov.uk)."

Let's face it Ray it's just Sod's Law that thing like this will happen. It is pointless falling out about it or getting upset.

PS. I'm just suprised you did not know all this stuff Ray after all Booker has told me that you have your Wallet insured at Loyds of London!

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 06:55 AM

This is an excellent opportunity for new people to see and experience the Maritime Festival and Jazz Festival all in one.
They will hopefully come back to the festivals next year.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 07:57 AM

I think the issue is probably funding Ray -the cost of the clipper and the shanty and the jazz festival will put a strain on Hull city council's budget and combining them is problably the best rather than dropping one of the festivals. The timing of the clippers coming home is out of their control.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:06 AM

Yes Bob and Ray the change of date has had the predictable consequence that there would be a clash with other events - in this case with Saddleworth. I gather that Hissyfit were due to perfom at Hull but when the date was changed it clashed with their prior booking at Saddleworth: a shame for all of us.

But on to dealing with what is to be: last year there was, by repute, a tremendous singaround at the White Hart on the Friday night before the festival which I found out about too late to attend. Does anyone know whether that, or similar, has been organised this year or do we have to await spontanous combustion?

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 09:59 AM

Yes Pre festival gathering in the White Hart,Alfred Gelder Street. Friday Night.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 10:13 AM

I have just rung the White Hart pub, which is in Alfred Gelder Street, Hull ( not to be confused with Ye Olde White Harte off Silver St and Bowlalley Lane)
MAP and Details HERE
I spoke to the landlady, Avril, who confirms that Shanty Jack, the Festival's director, has asked her whether a singaround could take place tomorrow, Friday, and she is very pleased to say yes. Furthermore she will at some point provide some trays of sandwiches to help the beer go down. The pub will be open from 5.00pm onwards but Avril does not really expect things to get going until after 7.00Pm.
Avril says that on Saturday and Sunday hot meals will be available.

I shall be there and Less of Hull says he will also be there.
How about you Ossen? And will Zeke and John be attending?
And you Willa, willa you? I know Hissyfits are at Saddleworth but can anyone else definitely commit? What about you, SiR jOHn of Hull, or might have something better to do?
By the way, Avril says that the opening times detailed in the link are out of date so she will definitely be open on Friday.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 10:29 AM

I see that GUEST has posted with an authoritative affirmative while I was composing my more long-winded confirmation of the Friday sinaround. Can Guest confirm whether the Young'uns are on the bill as Less of Hull expressed doubts about that?

Oh, and what about you Steve Gardham, might you make it?

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Les from Hull
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 10:54 AM

I've had a look at the Young 'Uns website, and they reckon they'll be here so that's good enough for me.

I can also confirm that the Famous Anti-Shanty will take place on Saturday night in the Minerva. The Anti-Shanty is there for people who don't fancy the Saturday night concert, or have run out of shanties to sing, or who would rather drink decent beer or (insert your own excuse here).

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 12:27 PM

SimpLes ! Of course, they should know if they are coming or not so their website was the best place to look.And they are -for the Sunday. Well done Less of Hull. Here is the link http://www.theyounguns.co.uk/

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 01:36 PM

Geoff,
I'm crewing all day Saturday, but we intend to tie up at Admiralty Steps some time Saturday afternoon for a couple of hours so a short visit may be poss. Tides crucial.
Living in Hull all I have seen in advance about any shanty festival this weekend is rumour and hearsay from Osson and Les. You'd think the council could advertise it in their own publications if nothing else! They haven't even told the local media.
I disagree about previous years. Last year's and the 4 or 5 years before were advertised both locally, nationally and internationally well in advance. This year, bugger all!
Last year all of the coinciding festivals were absolutely brilliant, especially the French Fire thing. It did wonders for local pride and the local economy. I'm not holding my breath this year. Hopefully those who come to see the Clippers back in will notice there is some singing going on.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 02:08 PM

Yes you are right Steve: previous years have been better on the publicity so perhaps my friendly fire was overstated. I think the festival is great and have supported it since the first one. But I would like everyone with any interest in this music to be aware of what is on offer for practically nothing this weekend. To that end here are web links to all the artists who are listed as appearing over the weekend.
•        Baggyrinkle http://baggyrinkle.com/
•        Bitter End http://www.shanty.co.uk/BitterEndMusic/BitterEnd.htm
•        Capstan Full Strength http://www.mike-acott-concertinas.co.uk/capstan.html
•       Gaye and Trish http://www.chanteycabin.co.uk/G&T/Gaye%20&%20Trish.htm
•        Keelers http://www.keelers.net/
•        Maree de Paradis http://mareeparadis.info/
•        Monkey's Fist http://www.monkeysfistshanty.co.uk/
•        Owd Chyvers http://www.ingletonfolk.co.uk/Owd%20Chyvers%20pdf.pdf
•        Risor Shantykor http://www.risorshantykor.net/
•        Shanty Jack http://www.shanty.co.uk/ShantyJack/
•        Trim Rig and a Doxy http://www.trimrigdoxy.com/
•        John Connolly http://www.greenmanreview.com/cd/cd_pm_connelly_omni.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WVySbyFL30
•        Danny Spooner http://www.dannyspooner.com/
•        Bob Webb http://www.richmondwebb.com/
•        Young'Uns http://www.theyounguns.co.uk/

But I couldn't find an official one for John Connolly – perhaps someone could post it for us if he has got one.

Geoff

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 02:31 PM

John Conolly doesn't have an official site, but he does have a myspace account.

http://www.myspace.com/johnconolly

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 03:45 PM

Thank you Arthur itis for the myspace link and for the spelling correction. I knew there was an issue about how John C spells his name so I double checked on the Counncil's Festival website listing. That is how I got it wrong.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 04:52 PM

LOL Trust the counncil eh! They always Cock it up.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 05:29 PM

No they don't always! After all they are paying for the Festival which has a very good line up and, as I keep saying, is at minimal cost to those who choose to take advantage. Please people, come and freeload on my counncil tax: it's money well spent.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 05:30 PM

Can't be there Geoff -I'm heading to saddleworth too.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GUEST,Bizibod
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 07:11 PM

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Sorry , I would have, I've been to the last two, but swift change of date means that there are no excursion coaches going from Nottingham this time, so I'm scuppered.Back to normal next year ? I do hope so.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: ossonflags
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 04:07 AM

Just a few pieces of info to set record straight.

It is unfortunate that Hull Sea Fever clashes with so much but hopefully the other events will add to the weekend rather than detract from it. As in the past with people giving their support we will make it a good'un .

In fairness to Pete I know he has tried his damndest to get the Council to revert back to September dates.

Linda's summary of the problems facing the Hull City Council is fair and correct.What with funding problems and all at least we are carrying on a great tradition of a live music Maritime festival in Hull.

Ray, please check your emails; I have just sent you one..

There is a great line up of artists including:

Shanty jack
Trim Rig and a Doxy
John Connolly
Gaye and trish
Bob Webb
Risor Shantykoor
Maree de Paradis
Alistair Mcdonald
The Keelers
Baggywrinkle
Bitter End
Monkeys Fist
Owd Chyvers
Young'uns

I have added some info on venues .

Friday night - meet and greet Singaround/curtain raiser White Hart Alfred Gelder street -7.00pm onwards

Saturday and Sunday - 10.00 am to 16.55 -

venues round Hull marina;

Minerva pub - Artists ten to fifteen minute spots to support floor singers
Marina main stage
Green bricks pub - no singaround - booked artists 30 min spots
Barge Amy Howsen
Ruscadors Pub

Saturday Evening: Concert- 8.00pm to 11.00pm Marina Boatshed

Sunday Evening - 8.00pm to 11.00pm Portland hotel "Survivors Session"

hope to see you all there!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 04:55 AM

And as part of the celebrations on Saturday the final lineup for the Hull Busking Trail can be found on this thread Hull Busking Trail

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: mally
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 02:03 PM

Hope to get down to the Anti-Shanty in Minerva on Sat.
What time does start?

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: Les from Hull
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 02:28 PM

We'll probably be doing a 'througher' Mally, just staying in the pub from the afternoon's session. Phil the Landlord will have some food available to buy.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: ossonflags
Date: 17 Jul 10 - 05:53 PM

Just left session; great first day.great craic in't Minerva.Looking forward to tomorrow

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: r.padgett
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 12:44 PM

Just back from Saddleworth ff

Hope everyone enjoyed themselves whereever they went!

Will check emails Mick!

Cheers to all

Ray

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 2010-THIS WEEKEND
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 07:43 PM

The opening session in the White Hart was great. After that I spent the whole of the Saturday and Sunday in the Minerva which had a tremendous sucession of guests to augment a great singaround. Thanks to all the guests and singarounders who provided me with as good a weekend as you can have for nowt in Hull while still keeping your clothes on. Thank you also to Les and Maggie for organising the excellent Anti-Shanty singaround on Saturday night.And thank you to Shanty Jack and any more of the people who were resposible for organising the Maritme Festival. Shanty Jack said that from now on the event is likely to permanantly occur in the same mid July period, so you who could not come can now arrange yourselves accordingly to get the benefit - it's worth it.

Regards, Geoff

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 04:59 AM

We got about a quarter mile from the docks then hit a line of solid scarcely even crawling, stuck on a no exit dual carriageway between two roundabouts for an hour and a half. The Council had closed a 200 yard section of the only road that takes all the traffic passing through Hull but didn't give any sort of diversion routes, or information about how to get round it. We were then funneled off into some side road to nowhere, and I had to guess how to escape from it, not knowing any of the roads at that end of the town. Once again the traffic wasn't actually moving at anything faster than a snail.
It took another half hour before I had got far enough out of town (probably back in the direction of Leeds) to escape the traffic and drive in the sort of direction that might take me round the back of town to the opposite side of the centre. Eventually I spotted the Shot Tower, which gave me a direction to aim for. Three hours after hitting traffic, I was eventually parked ready for a 20 minute walk to the dockside.
We arrived outside Hull at approximately 11.00am. Got to see John Conolly at 2.30pm. Couldn't hear him though as he was being drowned out by the prat on the microphone and disco music at the opposite end of the marina. The one who kept turning the mega PA system volume up and up and up and up then shouting into the microphone.
I can imaging anyone who was caught in the traffic deciding to never return.
Finally saw some French singing in the barge and had a short spell in the Minerva befor it was time to head home again.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: ossonflags
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 07:53 AM

Sorry to hear that Geoff, but anyone in 'ull would have told you dont take a motor anywhere near centre of 'ull on a normal Saturday!!!!

Was a bit noisy what with everthing else running at full pelt on the Saturday Do take your point about the noisy pa and that.

Estimated 80, 000 in and around the Marina.

Sunday was more pleasant.Was first time for Owd Chyvers at Hull Sea Fest though of course we all had been there under different guise many time before.

We had a great time and nice to see, hear and sing with old and new friends.

Hope to see some of you at Goole and Scarboro Sea Fest were Owd Chyvers are appearing at both events.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 08:17 AM

Mick - we had absolutely no intention of taking a car into the centre of Hull. We were suddenly presented with absolutely no other option, and no diversion signs to help us escape from the place!
I am sure that anyone in 'ull could have told us. I daresay that I could have rolled down a car window and asked opinions from the people walking faster that we were allowed to drive, and I'm sure that if asked, they would have told us we didn't want to be where we were. If you'd asked ME - I would have said I didn't want to be where I was!
That didn't change the reality, which is that we were stuck there in traffic with nowhere to stop, or park.

Quack!
Geoff.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 09:33 AM

That's really strange Geoff, most people are dying to get out of Hull :-)

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: ossonflags
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 10:30 AM

I think my comment on the 80,000 people attending the festival discounts your uninformed and uncalled for post Mr.itus

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 10:35 AM

Only kidding Mick. That's what a :-) stands for. keep cool.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 10:44 AM

I was contemplating coming along (for what it's worth Mick), but unfortunately family issues took over.

One thing I find sad, is that the excellent John Conolly was drowned out by some disco prat. John does not deserve that.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Les from Hull
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 12:16 PM

Phil the landlord of the Minerva is considering having a Shanty/Folky weekend on what would have been the Hull Shanty Weekend (first weekend in September). Anybody interested?

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 12:45 PM

Les, that is exactly what Linda, Hazel and I were thinking over the weekend- a mini-Minerva festival on the regular weekend :)

Glad Phil thinks it a good idea too!

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 12:50 PM

Unfortunately we have to be elsewhere that weekend but I hope it does take off. It's a shame the organisers want to move the festival permanently as July is an incredibly busy month but I did enjoy what we managed to see. I was slightly more fortunate than Geoff as I jumped out of the car after 2 hours to answer a personal emergency so got to see 1 1/2 hours more music :)

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 01:51 PM

I cannot believe the same people were responsible for the wonderful organisation of last year's 2 weekend events, and the appalling cock-up that happened this year. Please please to the boat organisers (Steve & son) and the shanty organiser (Pete) do not be dispirited by the council shambles and shabby treatment.

The lack of advertising.
The shabby treatment of visitors trying to get there.
The drowning out of the shanty music.
The short notice to the boat organisers.

All of these were appalling and inexcusable and down to the council.

We must fight back. Let them know how poor they were at every opportunity.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: GUEST,Doxy
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 02:56 PM

Well we had a great weekend. Some great singing in great company,
Cheers
Doxy

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 11:26 PM

I hope something can be put together for September. Sorry couldn't be there but cannot be in two places at once.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 07:47 AM

ditto what Linda said
geoff

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Les from Hull
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 09:09 AM

I think at the moment the general view is to have a weekend of singaround with a (not-exclusively) shanty flavour in the old brewery room, with a monster tunes session in the boat room. This way we can accommodate everyone that's shown an interest so far, both here and people I've spoken to.

Hull Community Theatre are happy to do one of they're locally-based historical pieces. Any more thoughts?

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Cavia_P
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 11:13 AM

Sorry we missed it. We'd already booked grandparent duty in Kent when I found the change of date. So no Polar Bears this year.
I was rather dubious about the powers trying to combine two music festivals plus a helicopter display team and all the other goings on!
Sorry to hear my suspicions were confirmed.
Very glad to hear that John Connolly was in attendance, someone told us that he had died!
Hull Shanty fest appears to have been turned into a side show this time. Lets hope they can do better next time.

Regards,

Chris and Jennifer

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 11:24 AM

>>Very glad to hear that John Connolly was in attendance, someone told us that he had died!<<

He can't die, he is booked for my funeral to sing Fiddlers Green, whenever that may be. :-)

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: GUEST,groupy
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 12:11 PM

I might be intrested if you provide us with a bit more info such as who and how have you got coming to date? Any big names?

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 12:59 PM

Groupy, I assume you mean the weekend of singarounds, not my funeral :-)

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: mally
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 02:34 PM

Les have you thouht about combining your weekend singaround with the Freedom Fest. on the 11th and 12th of Sept? I'm sure someone will know a few anti-slavery and freedom songs to go with the other songs we do.

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: Jane of 'ull
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 06:20 PM

Cavia P, my fears for the shanty fest were the same as yours and unfortunately came true.. I just knew the shanty side of things would be overshadowed by all the other goings on last weekend, especially the Clipper. I can understand from a financial point of view why the council would want to lump everything together, but it's no good if it puts people off attending the shanty!

A similar thing happened with Hull's Humber Mouth literary festival, it used to take place in November but now happens somewhere in the middle of June, where it clashes with Beverley folk festival and also the refugee music festival in queens gardens.

Good to hear there may be some shanty activity in September where it used to be - I feel the stirrings of a grassroots rebellion!

Subject: RE: Hull Maritime Festival 17-18 July, 2010
From: GUEST,John J (Near Hull)
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 07:00 PM

This was the first year in many that I didn't bother with Hull's shanty fest, precisely because I couldn't see how shanties at one side of the Marina could co-exist with an amplified stage only a couple of hundred metres away.

If anything is planned for September, anybody bringing a boat in from any of the other havens on the Humber will find the tides on the second w/e in September far more user-friendly than the w/e before.